what amp for two type R 10's?

[Hondaracer]

all my previous systems ive pretty much bought off people as a package, for my new vehicle i'm going to be building a system with all brand new components

right now the drivers i'm looking at are the 1500W Type R 10's, looking at amps on ebay etc. what would be a good output to push these subs?

would somthing like this pioneer amp be enough? :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pione...ht_2070wt_1165

my main confusion is that is it a "760W 2-Channel " but then the output is listed as:

RMS Power Rating:
4 ohms: 125 watts x 2 chan.
2 ohms: 190 watts x 2 chan.

so running dual voice coil the maximum it can output per channel is 125W?

is 125 enough for the Type R's?

also if i dont go with this pioneer, should i be looking for an amp with similar numbers or somthing different?

[installerz]

Are you using the dual or dual 4 Type R's? It will make a huge difference.
That Pioneer amp will not give you what you're looking for. R subs like to take 1000 watts each, depending on the box and environment.
Before you buy anything, please educate yourself on what's going to work best in the type of vehicle you have, the amount of space you'll need to give up and how much it's going to cost you, including upgrading your electrical system and or suspension.
I would suggest going to see one of the Revscene sponsors or go to the meet at the end of the month. There will be hundreds of cars all done up with tons of experience to offer you.
Some of us have been doing this for many years and made many mistakes. Take our free advise and save your hard earned money to invest in something that will give you lasting happiness.

[Hondaracer]

it's going in a truck, these are the subs i'm looking at:

Alpine SWR-1022D (TYPE R) 10" Dual 2 Ohm Type-R Series Subwoofer

ive put systems in all 3 of my past vehicles, it's not rocket science.. i'm just looking for advice as to what to go with for the amp

a friend of mine had a 2500 cummins with 2 type R 10's in a custom box we built for it under the rear seats, i cant remember what he had powering them but everything worked out very well, i'm going for a similar result, just need advice as to the output i'm going to need for these subs and what options i can go with single channel VS dual etc.

[installerz]

Oh, I forgot... Those subs weight e few pounds and if they die for some reason, it will cost you tons of money to send it back to the States for warranty. If that's not bad enough, they screw you at the border when it comes back, if it does get covered under warranty.
They're a little more money locally, but worth it in sooooo many ways.

P.S. I don't sell Alpine. It's not like I care what you buy, I just don't like watching people throw good money after bad.

[installerz]

I would suggest the dual 4's so that you can have a 1 ohm load and spend wisely on a 1 ohm stable amp (way cheaper than a 2ohm at that output). A good 1000 watt, 1 ohm stable amp sells for (in Canada) $500.00

[orgasm_donor]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

it's going in a truck, these are the subs i'm looking at:

Alpine SWR-1022D (TYPE R) 10" Dual 2 Ohm Type-R Series Subwoofer

ive put systems in all 3 of my past vehicles, it's not rocket science.. i'm just looking for advice as to what to go with for the amp

a friend of mine had a 2500 cummins with 2 type R 10's in a custom box we built for it under the rear seats, i cant remember what he had powering them but everything worked out very well, i'm going for a similar result, just need advice as to the output i'm going to need for these subs and what options i can go with single channel VS dual etc.

Yeah like Keith said you will need at least 1000 watts at 2 ohms. Best bet is to get a one-channel (mono) amp that is a class D or digital. Class D is much more efficient than a class A/B 2-channel amplfier so its going to be a lot nicer to your electrical system. Unfortuantely a class D mono amp that does 2 ohms at 1000 watts can run you a lot of money (for a decent one anyways - there is a ton of crap out there which you should avoid!).

Can you trade for DVC4's at all? Another option is to grab two 1000 watt mono amps (1 ohm stable). That would pound the crap out of those subs! You would need to upgrade some electrical components at that point though like Keith said.

No its not rocket science but there is a right way to do it and a wrong way.
Good luck!

[Hondaracer]

ahh i did not realize the difference between the Dual 4's etc. like i said all my previous systems have been bought in packages mostly

what is the difference going to be going with this 2+2 Ohms:

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...2cb800e55cen02

VS the 4+4 Ohms?

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...78320f2453en02

what is the sound difference? and what makes the price difference?

with these 4+4 i'm asuming you can run less power to achieve a "louder" effect than you would with the 2+2?

now that i look at it perhaps I should be looking at the 4+4? i'm not exactly an audiophile persay but if that 2+2 is head and shoulders above i'd like to know more info on the comparison

from a quick search im asuming that it all has to do with operating at a certain impedance? therefor the reason that you need to "upgrade" other aspects of your vehicle is because the system could become damaged etc. from running an amplifier that cannot maintain a certain levels? or drop below them i guess?

[orgasm_donor]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

ahh i did not realize the difference between the Dual 4's etc. like i said all my previous systems have been bought in packages mostly

what is the difference going to be going with this 2+2 Ohms:

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...2cb800e55cen02

VS the 4+4 Ohms?

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...78320f2453en02

what is the sound difference? and what makes the price difference?

with these 4+4 i'm asuming you can run less power to achieve a "louder" effect than you would with the 2+2?

now that i look at it perhaps I should be looking at the 4+4? i'm not exactly an audiophile persay but if that 2+2 is head and shoulders above i'd like to know more info on the comparison

Power handling and all the mechanicals are the same. The reason why they sell two different impedences is for flexibility only. They handle the same power and sound identical gievn the same power. That said, a single 2+2 would be a great sub if you had a single amp that put out 750 watts+ at one ohm or at 4 ohms. The first way is wired in parallel and the second is wired in series. A single 4+4 can be wired at 2 ohms or 8 ohms in parallel then series respectively.

Matching your subs and amp is one of the most important things you can do when designing a system (followed by the enclosure design and placement). The idea is to get the most power out of your amp as possible based on the impedence configurations. It sounds a little confusing but take it from a Audio guy, save your time and money by sticking to these basic but important rules.

So to re-cap:
Get a pair of DVC 4 ohm subs
Get a 1000-1500 watt class D amplifier that does its most power at 1 ohm.
Wire the subs in parallel/parallel and that will give the amp a 1 ohm load.

If your only option is to get two DVC 2 ohm subs, then getting an amplfier that runs at 1000 watts+ at two ohms is going to be tough and/or more expensive than running a big 1 ohm stable amp.

[Hondaracer]

so the "4 ohm" subs are the more expensive 2+2 ones correct?

and that is because it will be easier/more efficient/safer to get power to these subs than it would be to try with the 4+4?

[orgasm_donor]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

so the "4 ohm" subs are the more expensive 2+2 ones correct?

and that is because it will be easier/more efficient/safer to get power to these subs than it would be to try with the 4+4?

From that ad, it looks like the DVC 4ohm subs are cheaper which is what you will want! It will be easier, more efficient and CHEAPER overall to get more power to two of the DVC 4ohm (4+4) subs

[SaviorSelf_666]

I use a Alpine MRD-1005 for my 2 Type-R 10's