[noopSK20]

i searched and couldnt find what i was looking for so heres my question:

i'm looking for a drift shop or any good family owned shop in vancouver that will balance my wheels. i'm running 225's on x10 work equips and i have a little gap between my tire and lip, enough to fit the width of a quarter in.

now no shop around here wants to balance them for me. i'll be in vancouver the first weekend of april for a car meet.

help would be appreciated if anyone has any experience

thank you in advance :)

[!SG]

wtf? why wont they balance them? the weighs stick onto the the rim itself. the only thing i see is an issue is if you are running a really fat lip, and thus they cant balance the wheel because it requires far too many weights behind where the spokes attach to the drum.

[!SG]

to understand how weight balancing works, if a wheel has near center offset, or even negative offsets, then the weights that are attached towards the center of the wheel will be significantly heavier than weights towards the edge of the wheel. its just physics.

eg. a 1/4oz weight on the outer rim edge would need a significantly larger weight near the center of the wheel to make them equally balanced.

why not just throw weights on the edges? because who wants to have ugly weights show on the face of the rim? on special occassion, and request, i use to split weights and hide them behind the spokes just so that u have a little weights showing as possible (for those that are really picky, and show cars)

[noopSK20]

Kal tire just fails they said they wouldnt do it due to the lip/tire gap. thats why i need some place that will be like "k sweet sure we will do that for you asap" lol

[!SG]

do you mean mounting the tire on the wheel because they fear the tire wont stretch that far?

the tire is 225 wide, the wheel is 10in wide,

what size tire is it, how much sidewall do you have to stretch?

has the tire been mounted already onto the wheel? is it holding pressure? did you need bead locker for it to hold pressure?

[noopSK20]

tire is already mounted and seated as far as i can possibly get it. there 225/40/18's on 18x10's

hold pressure fine. used started fluid to seat it...... or maybe i will take it to a shop in van that uses a cheetah? dunno if that will stretch it anymore then it is.

they just didnt want to do it cause of that little gap between the tire and lip.

i've seen hella worse gaps and people are driving around on them lol

[!SG]

i assume they didnt want to do it for safety reasons, in case you lose pressure from not properly sealed tire.

go give the sponsors a call. they should be able to balance it. 40 series should be enough sidewall to stretch, 45 would have been better to work with.

[noopSK20]

i assume they didnt want to do it for safety reasons, in case you lose pressure from not properly sealed tire.

go give the sponsors a call. they should be able to balance it. 40 series should be enough sidewall to stretch, 45 would have been better to work with.

ya i will have to do that. forgot that there is a lot of tire shops as sponsers on here :)

thank you

[GabAlmighty]

Ya, they're worried about liabilities. Goodluck with it!

[noopSK20]

OR i will order a set of 235's and throw them on. kinda a waste buying the 225's but w.e. its a little safer lol

[BEEB]

Holy... I'm worried to stretch a 225/45 on a X9 wheel, and you managed to stretch a 225 on X10 wheels? :thumbsup:

[noopSK20]

ya lol

i really want to run the 225's. we'll see

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4409259001_abccee064b.jpg

[G-spec]

nice poke bro, gloss black lips on white car = teh moneyzz :thumbsup:

just run 225's, I know none of these chain stores will touch it, but there are drift shops here that do even crazier stretches so don't worry about it...


ya lol

i really want to run the 225's. we'll see

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4409259001_abccee064b.jpg

[Lomac]

Ya, they're worried about liabilities. Goodluck with it!

Exactly. Since technically the incorrectly sized tires are on the rim, most shops will avoid doing anything with them due to the fact that they can be held liable in the case of a lawsuit. It's like if you bring a car into the shop with bald tires, they're legally obligated (I believe) to hold onto the car because it's considered unsafe for road use.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

HOLLY COW!!!

225 x 10


im running 225/40 x 8.5 and i feel its already stretched.

thought stretching too much can be a safety issue

[AVS_Racing]

^^^ got pics? i want to see the stretch, im planning to run that sizing too. seeing op's stretch kinda makes me wana go narrower but duno if i should. what other problems will i run into if i go any narrower besides loosing air?

[drunkrussian]

try calling sorat in north van. They're nice to deal with, pretty cheap i think and pretty good at what they do as well, i imagine they'd do it for u

[Leopold Stotch]

^^^ got pics? i want to see the stretch, im planning to run that sizing too. seeing op's stretch kinda makes me wana go narrower but duno if i should. what other problems will i run into if i go any narrower besides loosing air?

i ran 235/40s on a 9" wide wheel, barely looked stretched.

only a very slight stretch.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/shortcakesz/IMG_0908.jpg

[noopSK20]

try calling sorat in north van. They're nice to deal with, pretty cheap i think and pretty good at what they do as well, i imagine they'd do it for u

pm'd him yesterday and he will balance them for me when i come to van :)

by no means will i drive long distant or on highway with these since i live in town so 20Kms a day of driving. i have another set of rims 18x8.5 with 235/40 kumho xs, pic here

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2775/4082249726_1e8098d932.jpg

so i get the best of both worlds :thumbsup:

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[noopSK20]

ya thats mine haha :)

[eurochevy]

ya lol

i really want to run the 225's. we'll see

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4409259001_abccee064b.jpg

i don't understand wtf the point of stretching a tire like that is for

[noopSK20]

you have euro in your screen name and you dont understand stretched tires

ok buddy.

[Lomac]

you have euro in your screen name and you dont understand stretched tires

ok buddy.

Hey, I drive two Japanese-produced vehicles and I don't understand some of the shit that they do to their vehicles over there...

[invader]

I have a 225/40/18 mounted on a 18x9.5, 3000km later no probs.
Although as soon as the SORAT guy heard i had 225 on my 9.5 inch wide wheel he told me he would NOT warranty my tires if something happened.

I got them mounted at Advanced in Coquitlam.

[noopSK20]

I have a 225/40/18 mounted on a 18x9.5, 3000km later no probs.
Although as soon as the SORAT guy heard i had 225 on my 9.5 inch wide wheel he told me he would NOT warranty my tires if something happened.

I got them mounted at Advanced in Coquitlam.

ya i talked to him said that he could balance them. since thats all i need lol.

im not worried about warranty on tires, i bought them online from the states got them mounted loosely and had to do the rest.

[Great68]

ya lol

i really want to run the 225's. we'll see

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4409259001_abccee064b.jpg

That looks both stupid AND dangerous.

[fliptuner]

http://www.tyrestretch.com/albums/10_224_40_R18/10_224_40_R18_Dunlop_2.jpg
http://www.tyrestretch.com/albums/10_224_40_R18/10_224_40_R18_Dunlop.jpg

http://www.tyrestretch.com/index.php

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

i honestly dont get the whole point, i think it does look stupid and unsafe

just get wider tires, more traction

[drunkrussian]

glad sorat could help you. Those guys are awesome! the warrantee is understandable, as nice as the guy is, he needs to save his own ass at the end of the day

lol but when i went over there i was like "damn this is cheaper than the U.S" and the guy was like "yeah...FUCK the U.S!!!" lol

[SpuGen]

That looks both stupid AND dangerous.

Stupid + Dangerous = Awesome.
Just look at drifting.

If we did everything by the book, and never deviated from the norm and what's "proper"; The Car scene would be very, very boring.

[Great68]

Stupid + Dangerous = Awesome.
Just look at drifting.

If we did everything by the book, and never deviated from the norm and what's "proper"; The Car scene would be very, very boring.

Mechanically unsafe cars are illegal on the street, much like drifing. I would question whether that much tire stretch is considered mechanically sound and therefore legal.

[!SG]

the point of stretching, from physics pov is to limit side wall flexing.

when side walls are normally | |, when tires are spun and push to them limits, the side walls will flex side to side like \ \ and / /

the point of stretching, from physics pov, is to minimize this flexing by forcing the side walls at each other like an arc / \ thus when pushing sideways, it flex.

as for drifters go, you want that minimized flexing, at the same time, you want traction.

weather it looks stupid or not is dependant on the person, overstretching is dangerous though as you are fighting the side wall wanting to push back in, while the air in the tire is trying to push the sidewall out to lock the bead. thats why u use the bead locker (though its not truly meant for it), its just a matter of time.

as for style goes, its the ultimate to limit the space between the fender and the tire/wheel using the natural arcing pattern when the suspension moves up and down. kicking out the camber to force limit even more gets a bit iffy.

this isnt anything new, the vdub guys have been stretching tires for a while now too.

[eurochevy]

you have euro in your screen name and you dont understand stretched tires

ok buddy.

no i fully UNDERSTAND why ..but its fucking retarded your asking for a blow out you have to be retarded to do it that excessively

[jeff_alexander]

I thought tires need sidewall flex to work?

[SpuGen]

no i fully UNDERSTAND why ..but its fucking retarded your asking for a blow out you have to be retarded to do it that excessively

The new M3 comes with slightly stretched tires.
So unsafe la.

[hk20000]

so unsafe loh.

[LenovoTurbo]

mo ah.