[Harvey Specter]

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Two doctors have made a list of recommendations they say will help make the public safer by getting senior citizens to give up their drivers licence's and getting them off the road.

The two wrote an editorial in the Canadian Medical Association Journal and recommendations include a reverse graduate licensing program that would put conditions on seniors licence's, like limiting driving during peak hours and at night. They also say doctors need a better tool to determine who should and should not be driving.

Nathan Baker from Bestway Driver Training says right now it's usually family members helping make the decision. "Your father, or your mother, you're out with them and you're wondering if they're really up to snuff as far as their skills go and their safety goes. Of course just like we worry about our children we worry about our parents."

The two doctors add a seniors' right to drive shouldn't come before public safety adding that by 2025, one in four Canadians will be 65 or older.

The editorial also mentions governments and urban planners will have to do their part in creating programs that would fill the gap for those who do stop driving.

[DC5-S]

ive always said old people shouldn't be allowed do drive, past 70-75 there licences should be taken away.

[StealthFighter]

i've been thinking since i got my license that people over 65 should be retested ever 2-3 years to make sure they can still drive.

[penner2k]

Reminds me of South Park..

[PiuYi]

these 2 doctors are my heroes

[Shun Izaki]

ive always said old people shouldn't be allowed do drive, past 70-75 there licences should be taken away.

i think they should have a test... at the very least...

[hotjoint]

Good stuff take their licenses away or retest them if they still want to drive
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[VK79]

excellent news

[Vansterdam]

its about fucken time

[MarkyMark]

Everyone thinks it's a good idea till they turn 65 themselves and their license is taken away.
I'm all for getting more checkups when your older though to make sure they are still ok to drive...otherwise middleaged Chinese women should be stripped of their licenses as well...same logic, they can't drive right
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[Jsunu]

This sounds like a awesome idea now when we are young, but when we reach that age, we have to prepare to have our freedom taken away. But I am all for retesting!

[VK79]

I'm all for taking a test annually/bi-annually, not only does it endanger others, it would also endanger ME AND MY grand kids (when I take them out). If you are not fit to do something, you are not fit, there is nothing to whine about.

[Presto]

While I agree with getting seniors off the road, this idea will never fly. It's age discrimination. They should just implement re-testing people every 5 - 10 years.

[Gridlock]

I think people are a little harsh on that front. My mom is 64 and I would hate to see her have to retest for a drivers license at 65. I'm happy to re-examine that thinking at 75ish. Are older drivers really causing that many accidents?

[The_AK]

i wonder if we'll still be saying the same thing when we're all older

[Dragon-88]

I think people are a little harsh on that front. My mom is 64 and I would hate to see her have to retest for a drivers license at 65. I'm happy to re-examine that thinking at 75ish. Are older drivers really causing that many accidents?

its probably more than just accidents. Seniors tend to drive slower and are less aware of their surrounding.
But then again so are most incompetent vancouver drivers.

[CanadaGoose]

I think we've all been waiting for this kind of news for a while! :)

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

take them off the road, along with those incompetent c-lais

[Gt-R R34]

while i think it's an idea, it will never fly and plus with our public transportation system
Good fucking luck.

If this was in HKG, or somewhere with an amazing public transportation system. I'd say we make the testing and withholding license work.

Communities out in the boonies? Interiors? It will never fly and nor should it.

Once you put limitation on people, it's no democracy anymore.

Testing however, for things like eye sight and muscle disorders and not allowing them to drive. Totally agreement.

[alwaysideways]

While I agree with getting seniors off the road, this idea will never fly. It's age discrimination. They should just implement re-testing people every 5 - 10 years.

Most logical post of the thread! As much as I wouldnt want to be re-tested, it would be the only way to get around the discrimination part. Plus it may help get some poorer drivers off the road. Although I'm not sure how some people got their licences to begin with...could end up being the same with half the driving test people taking bribes?

[twitchyzero]

While I agree with getting seniors off the road, this idea will never fly. It's age discrimination. They should just implement re-testing people every 5 - 10 years.

i disagree about the age discrimination. that's similar to saying flying schools discriminate people with poor eye sight.

[Presto]

i disagree about the age discrimination. that's similar to saying flying schools discriminate people with poor eye sight.

I don't agree with it either, but this is Canada, and the discrimination argument will shut down this idea quickly.

[toyota86]

mandatory testing for everyone every 5 years. i see no negative in this.
no discrimination, generates revenue, changes in traffic laws can be implemented more quickly, can be used to weed out those who are unfit to drive, keep everyone's skills in check

[AzNightmare]

^ only problem with this is that I find the tests aren't examining the proper things.
So it wouldn't matter how often tests there are.

People are taught to drive slow, not better.
It's a misconception of slow being safe.

[q0192837465]

I'm all for taking a test annually/bi-annually, not only does it endanger others, it would also endanger ME AND MY grand kids (when I take them out). If you are not fit to do something, you are not fit, there is nothing to whine about.

lol, tell that to the Translink management

[tegz]

Man, this forums just full of relatively young people with biased opinions. What if you are 65~75 and still sane, still had good vision and whatnot, would you want people to fuck with your business (in this case, your right to drive)?

I'm not saying let them drive if they are dangerous, but if such extreme actions such as revoking license were to be taking place, I think a senior driving exam should be put in place.

[bengy]

They should have re-testing every 4 years mandatory for everyone, regardless of age. All these assholes who bought their licenses would be screwed.

[1exotic]

Everyone thinks it's a good idea till they turn 65 themselves and their license is taken away.
I'm all for getting more checkups when your older though to make sure they are still ok to drive...otherwise middleaged Chinese women should be stripped of their licenses as well...same logic, they can't drive right
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This is true. They are pretty much the only horrible drivers I encounter these days... it's getting annoying.

[q0192837465]

They should have re-testing every 4 years mandatory for everyone, regardless of age. All these assholes who bought their licenses would be screwed.

I totally agree. Re-test regardless of age. More frequently for those those who exhibits higher risk. It's more fair and everyone is on level playing field. Just cuz u'r young and have good reflexes doesnt mean u'r a good driver. A old person with slower reflexes but demonstrates good judgement is a better driver than any c-lai out there.

[Anjew]

totally agree to re-testing for everyone..... every 5 years...
test some optional shit too like keeping right when being slow on the highway

[hotjoint]

I wouldn't mind being retested as long as it gets the shitty drivers off the roads then I'm all for it
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[Mancini]

It sounds like they're suggesting that revoking licenses should be mandatory past a certain age. That's wrong.

I'm all for regular testing, which should include a component for reaction time.

I'll bet this 80 year old man doesn't have any problems:

http://www.rotary5280.org/clubs/santamonica/Images/2003-2004/calendar%20of%20events/bobdelm.jpg

[hal0g0dv2]

It sounds like they're suggesting that revoking licenses should be mandatory past a certain age. That's wrong.

I'm all for regular testing, which should include a component for reaction time.

I'll bet this 80 year old man doesn't have any problems:

http://www.rotary5280.org/clubs/santamonica/Images/2003-2004/calendar%20of%20events/bobdelm.jpg

photoshopped

[fishing666]

I don't think they need retesting but rather a doctor's check-up document of factual health info and additional recommendations from the doctor to ICBC about the senior. The old guys know how to drive..it's just that their vision and reflexes aren't what they used to be. seniors also have a higher risk for emergency while driving like heartattack or stroke. overall, seniors just need to prove that they are healthy because they've already been tested as drivers.

[Mancini]

photoshopped

Nope. Bob Delmoteque.

http://www.bobdelmonteque.com/

[Dragon-88]

I prefer a 5 year retest. How hard is it to really keep your eyes aware of the road, shoulder check every lane change, stop at all stop signs and red lights. keep pace and speed limit and most important check mirrors. A good amount of people get lazy when it comes to driving.. Hell people dont even want to walk becuase they have a car let alone do something as simple as a shoulder check.

[Mr.HappySilp]

EVeyone 60+ should have to re-do the driving exam every year or every other year. If they fail they have one more chance. If they somehow fail that as well then they will to start from the learner again.

[LiquidTurbo]

I'm just speculating, but I would bet young people (age 16-24) probably cause more death and injury than senior citizens due to inexperience and recklessness.

You remember that Baldip guy who was drinking and driving? When was the last time you ever heard of a senior citizen causing an accident of that level? I'm not the kinda person who's like "get all old people off the road!!!!" I'm more in favor of just more testing.

For example, Motoharu Kurosawa.. he's 68, and he's a sharper driver than anyone here. I'd probably feel comfortable riding in the car with him if he was 90.

YouTube- Honda 2000 Prototyp auf der Nordschleife

[LiquidTurbo]

Nope. Bob Delmoteque.

http://www.bobdelmonteque.com/

Dude. WTF? That's amazing!

[Brianrietta]

I'm just speculating, but I would bet young people (age 16-24) probably cause more death and injury than senior citizens due to inexperience and recklessness.

You remember that Baldip guy who was drinking and driving? When was the last time you ever heard of a senior citizen causing an accident of that level? I'm not the kinda person who's like "get all old people off the road!!!!" I'm more in favor of just more testing.


Finding archived news posts is like pulling nails but I know of two high-profile pedestrian deaths this year from elderly people running them down with their cars. January 15th I know there was one in Toronto that re-ignited this debate out here as an 80 year old driver didn't see a pedestrian and killed him.

People of all ages can make serious flaws in judgement and drive while intoxicated, but there is already legislation that deals with that. Some sort of age and/or event (collision, ticket, etc) triggered required retesting would be beneficial to ensure that the overall level of driving quality is maintained.

[Phil@rise]

ive always said old people shouldn't be allowed do drive, past 70-75 there licences should be taken away.

That's bullshit.

Every senior deserves the right to at least prove they are capable of driving and thus deserve the privilege of doing so.
I happen to have a couple of senior customers both 85 and both good safe drivers. Hell one of them is a veteran jet fighter pilot and still holds his license to do so. He still fly's regularly across North America in airshows.
Now that being said I do believe senior drivers past a certain age should be subject to greater scrutiny with annual testing being performed.
Possibly written every year and road tested every two.

[you!]

about time