[HSBC_Slave]

Guys,

Do you think $650 for 55" LED on fireplace plus 4 speakers on ceiling with all concealed wires expensive or a good deal? This is from Futureshop whom I assume would honor their work if anything falls apart?

Thanks!

[Hondaracer]

"from Futureshop"

/thread

just buy the shit from them and get somone else to install, thats crazy expensive.

[HSBC_Slave]

Really?? I got a quote from some dude on craigslist at 490 - 540?

Do you know of any reputable ones?

[Hondaracer]

well what are they doing?

are they running the wires through the walls? are they installing wall plates for HDMI etc.?

is your TV going on a bracket or are they just sitting it on a shelf above your fireplace?

any other details would help do the estimate

[Manic!]

If they are running the wires in the walls then its about right if they do a good job. I would not go with in ceiling speakes. Having sound come from above you is not a good idea.

[JKam]

thats pretty much market value (from most installation companies) if they are running the wires.. also depends on the mount you have (swivel or flush).

[HSBC_Slave]

Yes, they are running wires through the walls. TV is going on a bracket above the fireplace.


well what are they doing?

are they running the wires through the walls? are they installing wall plates for HDMI etc.?

is your TV going on a bracket or are they just sitting it on a shelf above your fireplace?

any other details would help do the estimate

[quasi]

DIY and save the money, it's stupid easy.

[ime2006]

DIY and save the money, it's stupid easy.
If its stupid easy, please, do it from him.
And something goes worng, ull be responsible.

[JKam]

If its stupid easy, please, do it from him.
And something goes worng, ull be responsible.

exactly. everyone knows that the majority of the money is going towards insurance and maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of it is going to the company. then minus the cost of labour and theres pretty much nothing left. Sure someone else can do it for half the money but if it falls you're out a lot more than $600 whereas if it was covered by insurance you get a new tv.

[Manic!]

Mounting the TV is easy running the wires threw the wall is the harder part.

[XtC-604]

BTW, if your going to get it installed, get it installed by the futureshop kingsway team. Number one installer team in Canada for home theatre.

[StylinRed]

wow these guys make a killing off of people who aren't handy

[quasi]

If its stupid easy, please, do it from him.
And something goes worng, ull be responsible.

LOL, my point is anyone with a brain can do it. We're not talking brain surgery or even building a deck it's running a few wires through the wall and screwing a mount to the studs in the wall. I was just suggesting maybe he'd want to save some money because it's so fucking easy and perhaps he didn't realize just how simple it is?

I'll gladly do it and take responsibility for it but you pay the $650 for my time please, cash only. It's win win, he gets his shit installed and you look like a winner because I did it for him on your suggestion.

[VR6GTI]

I would not use futureshop, they fucked up my friends place when they cut the hole to big for his speakers now he has a gap. I dont think the price is that high.
I used Van-Media Install twice. Both times they did a great job and price was fair.

[EXV603]

If you have the money and don't want to do it yourself, just get it installed by someone else. Like some previous posters have said, if it gets fucked up at least it will be covered by insurance.

[Franjo]

Audio/Video Unlimited in Langley? Maybe check their price. If I was doing it, I'd pay someone to do it too just because it's on them if anything goes wrong.

[freakshow]

wow these guys make a killing off of people who aren't handyThat can be said for a lot of industries though.. like building computers, fixing cars, etc.

[ZenZa]

LOL, my point is anyone with a brain can do it. We're not talking brain surgery or even building a deck it's running a few wires through the wall and screwing a mount to the studs in the wall. I was just suggesting maybe he'd want to save some money because it's so fucking easy and perhaps he didn't realize just how simple it is?

I'll gladly do it and take responsibility for it but you pay the $650 for my time please, cash only. It's win win, he gets his shit installed and you look like a winner because I did it for him on your suggestion.

Not everybody is handy and think it's "stupid easy". Fucking up can cost more than getting it done professionally in the first place.

[underscore]

exactly. everyone knows that the majority of the money is going towards insurance and maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of it is going to the company. then minus the cost of labour and theres pretty much nothing left. Sure someone else can do it for half the money but if it falls you're out a lot more than $600 whereas if it was covered by insurance you get a new tv.

If you can't work a cheap studfinder and a screwdriver you're a fucking idiot (oh and a level might be a good idea too). Anyone should be able to set up that TV. The wiring *might* be a bit trickier depending on your house but ONLY get them to run the wires. Hook up the speakers and screw everything in yourself. Read the manuals and if you have any trouble post it up.

[JKam]

If you can't work a cheap studfinder and a screwdriver you're a fucking idiot (oh and a level might be a good idea too). Anyone should be able to set up that TV. The wiring *might* be a bit trickier depending on your house but ONLY get them to run the wires. Hook up the speakers and screw everything in yourself. Read the manuals and if you have any trouble post it up.

like i said... insurance is the biggest factor in the cost. Some people just can't be bothered to do it themselves too. I'm not arguing that its not easy. Hell I know I can do it myself. I don't know what your argument to my quote is though.

[quasi]

Not everybody is handy and think it's "stupid easy". Fucking up can cost more than getting it done professionally in the first place.

I feel like I'm repeating myself probably because I am. I made the suggestion because he made the comment about the price. If someone is asking about the price they probably are concerned about the cost. I suggested doing it himself because it is very easy to do. Maybe he doesn't want to or can't which is possible but I was just letting him know the option was there.

[twitchyzero]

wiring through walls is not something everyone is capable of doing

[JesseBlue]

especially if its on top of a fireplace which is generally not a good thing...is it a gas fireplace of a wooden fireplace? does it have a mantle? what wires do you want to conceal? There are a lot of codes to consider. Power cord to the wall? good luck...i put mine on top of a fireplace too...easy but you need at least another helper...

just DIY the installation of the TV...as for the cords...try to see if you can get a cord concealer instead...you'll be saving around $400 bucks...

[Manic!]

If you can't work a cheap studfinder and a screwdriver you're a fucking idiot (oh and a level might be a good idea too). Anyone should be able to set up that TV. The wiring *might* be a bit trickier depending on your house but ONLY get them to run the wires. Hook up the speakers and screw everything in yourself. Read the manuals and if you have any trouble post it up.

Having them run the wires and installing the TV yourself save what $100 bux and then you can throw out any warranty on there part of the install.

[garage.adrian]

If your not a handyman get it installed. I previously work at A&B sound for 6 years

* Ask FS if TV breaks and they install, do they come get it?
* If you dont have a PROPER snake to run wires PAY someone to do this
* If your looking for cheaper, talk to a freelancer, generally youll get better wiring and the job will be cheaper

If your looking for someone DM me, have lots of friends

[underscore]

like i said... insurance is the biggest factor in the cost. Some people just can't be bothered to do it themselves too. I'm not arguing that its not easy. Hell I know I can do it myself. I don't know what your argument to my quote is though.

Having them run the wires and installing the TV yourself save what $100 bux and then you can throw out any warranty on there part of the install.

My point is insurance on WHAT? check the fine print on the wall mount, it should cover against damages caused by its failure should it fail. Like I said before, if you can work a screwdriver and a studfinder, oh and being able to read a couple instruction might help, then it will not fall. So having insurance on a wall mount installation is like buying those product service plans, completely useless unless you're retarded.

[HSBC_Slave]

BTW, if your going to get it installed, get it installed by the futureshop kingsway team. Number one installer team in Canada for home theatre.

Thanks for the heads up. I did buy everything from the FS@Kingsway, but not sure if I have that team though?

[Phil@rise]

I've done countless multi media home installs $650 is more then fair if in fact all wires are concealed and run through the walls.
Is there a crawl space beneath where you are installing everything or is there attic access above or are you in an apartment?
Also if you use your fireplace I strongly recommend against installing your screen above it the heat will fuck it up.

[JKam]

My point is insurance on WHAT? check the fine print on the wall mount, it should cover against damages caused by its failure should it fail. Like I said before, if you can work a screwdriver and a studfinder, oh and being able to read a couple instruction might help, then it will not fall. So having insurance on a wall mount installation is like buying those product service plans, completely useless unless you're retarded.

The mount failing and the mount failing because of poor installation are two completely different things. Product service plans are good for high ticket items. You've obviously never had a TV fail on you before and be out a couple thousand dollars.

Some people just don't feel comfortable doing these things either. That's why they get someone else to do it, for piece of mind. Just because you think it's a stupid cost and stupid easy doesn't mean it is for everyone. I don't know why everyone likes to force their view of things on everyone else. So because you know how to "work a screwdriver and a studfinder, oh and being able to read a couple instruction" that makes everyone who doesn't feel comfortable doing it a retard? I'm not saying that it's not easy, I'm saying that people will pay for things they feel are worth it. Just chill, it's not like it's your money the OP is spending.

The price of the install is market value like I said earlier. OP isn't getting ripped off nor is he getting a killer deal.

[underscore]

There's this spiffy new thing called a warranty, it covers items that are defective. Electronics with a fault will typically fail quite quickly. I won't get into the details of why psp's are a wait of money here though.

I'm trying to point out that it is a fairly simple task, and if you aren't fully comfortable with doing it yourself chances are you know someone who can give you a hand. Depending on your house wiring can be either dead simple or very complex, but mounting a TV on the wall is fairly consistently simple.

[HSBC_Slave]

I've done countless multi media home installs $650 is more then fair if in fact all wires are concealed and run through the walls.
Is there a crawl space beneath where you are installing everything or is there attic access above or are you in an apartment?
Also if you use your fireplace I strongly recommend against installing your screen above it the heat will fuck it up.


I don't have a crawl space as I'm in a town home with no basement. I think 650 is fair as well....

I should go with it.

[XtC-604]

If your not a handyman get it installed. I previously work at A&B sound for 6 years

* Ask FS if TV breaks and they install, do they come get it?
* If you dont have a PROPER snake to run wires PAY someone to do this
* If your looking for cheaper, talk to a freelancer, generally youll get better wiring and the job will be cheaper

If your looking for someone DM me, have lots of friends
GENERALLY, if you didn't purchase product service plan, here on (PSP), and the tv breaks. If the TV is broken because of the work done to install it, ie (mounting work fails and tv drops yes) if TV has a problem, and you do not have PSP then no. As PSP for appliances and tvs are ON SITE.

[ime2006]

Say, You might save 100~150 around.

But with all the hassles, time, and risk...........

Some people might think its worth it, some people might not.
In the end, I would say, its simply a piece of mind that you are buying.

Everyone has different thoughts.......
Depends on what kind person you are.

[Sky_2000]

It's amazing how no one can do anything for themselves now a days! It's also amazing how people can rationalize paying someone 650 bucks to hook up a damn TV!!! You can learn how to do anything these days ie:

YouTube- How to install a wall mount for a flat panel tv

It probability takes more know how to program a PVR then it does to install a TV on a wall mount

Here's how to install a power plug next to the tv:

http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/21/how-to-run-power-to-a-wall-mounted-tv/

Here's how to run speaker wires thru a wall:

http://www.ehow.com/video_5246885_run-speaker-wire-through-walls.html

Google is your friend people.

[steve93SI]

I got my 46" 3D LED Sammy installed by vanmedia install (google them). Extrmemly helpful dudes. I had mine mounted over the fireplace which was an extra $50 as opposed to FS ridiculous price of $500 for over a fireplace. Ended up costing me $440 after taxes. I also had them program my universal remote so you can take $20 off of that price.

[Cman333]

Remember his install is not just a mounting over a fireplace. There's In-ceiling speakers which need to be installed and have wires run which isn't a super easy task.

[carisear]

^^ was just going to say wiring shit up isn't all that easy. i did my own house and it was a major pain in the ass. running hdmi, 3 sets of speaker wire, and a wii IR cable from one end of the room to the back SUCKS in an old house.

if i had the money, i'd definitely hire someone to do it for me. in fact, i'm still not completely done the wiring, because i just got pissed off at it. lol.

wall mounting is pretty easy though -- the most difficult thing of that is finding exactly what level you want your tv to be at. you need 2 people though.