[Z3guy]

I have seen this E46 M3 vert for sale for over 6 months, I can't believe someone has jumped on this....for god sake, the car comes with Motons!!!

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/1660099132.html

the reason I think it has not sold are;

1) price is a little high
2) beige interior...
3) vert, most performance minded enthusiasts stay clear of verts.

regardless, the owners spent some serious coin on it

[thumper]

looks nice. and it's not SMG to boot.

but i've driven a stock e46 m3 vert before and it was creaky/shaky as hell on bad roads (i was on king ed)... will that get worse with all those suspension mods on it?

you say the price is on the high side... as a bmw owner yourself, what do you think it's worth?

[SumAznGuy]

Normally, I hate beige interiors, but this black/sand interior isn't that bad.

[lowside67]

The reason that car hasnt sold is he has a bunch of mods that are by far most well appreciated on a track, on a cab. He needs to part some of that stuff out to see some value out of it, a typical cab buyer couldnt care less about an stiffer lsd. The price is also out to lunch - if he really wants to get that car sold, the price needs to be $29,900 - there are a bunch of 03s for under 30k and although this one is surely the nicest, $38,500 buys you an 05-06.

[Z3guy]

looks nice. and it's not SMG to boot.

but i've driven a stock e46 m3 vert before and it was creaky/shaky as hell on bad roads (i was on king ed)... will that get worse with all those suspension mods on it?

you say the price is on the high side... as a bmw owner yourself, what do you think it's worth?

If the car was stock it would be worth approx. $30-$34K due to very low KMs & having an Individual option. His mods are sick, Motons would run you approx. $8K, the diff $4K...he must have spent over $12K on his suspension alone. If I wanted a tricked out vert, I would pay up to $36K for this beast due to low Kms and mods. I am sure this car would have sold by now if it was a coupe....it doesn't make sense doing track mods on a vert.

[dogeatcookie]

I've checked out the car when I was car shopping a few months ago. Very nice car but there was a little more wear and tear in the interior than I would like for a car with 34000kms at the time. Those motons have to be rebuilt once in a while and I don't think the owner has any of the stock parts since he bought the car as is. That could also pose as a problem for potential buyers. Other than that it is definitely the cleanest and most well modded m3 on the market, despite the fact that it's a convertible.

[dogeatcookie]

If the car was stock it would be worth approx. $30-$34K due to very low KMs & having an Individual option. His mods are sick, Motons would run you approx. $8K, the diff $4K...he must have spent over $12K on his suspension alone. If I wanted a tricked out vert, I would pay up to $36K for this beast due to low Kms and mods. I am sure this car would have sold by now if it was a coupe....it doesn't make sense doing track mods on a vert.

lol the motons don't cost 8k...more like less than 4 with installation.

[Greenstoner]

i dont like convertible m3

[Z3guy]

lol the motons don't cost 8k...more like less than 4 with installation.

really now? I will pay you $4K for motons....

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

thats nothing dude


look at Kyle's m3 thats been on sale on this board for over 6 months....and his is much hotter than this one.

he is asking around $36 obo i believe

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/fs-2003-5-t585610.html

[lowside67]

His car is better looking but has 82k and doesnt have nearly the level of parts that are in that cabrio from a performance standpoint. Really him and the cab guy should get together, all the showy but no go body parts should go on the cab and all the track-ready performance parts should go on the coupe.

[lowside67]

really now? I will pay you $4K for motons....
You are confusing the club sport kit with the motorsport kit.

The Club Sport kit is available sub $5k, the motorsport kit is $8k+ for 2-way and well over $10k for 3-way.

Edit - here is a complete Moton 1-way kit for $2850.
http://store.bimmerworld.com/moton-street-sport-single-adjustable-damper-set-p1333.aspx

[Z3guy]

thats nothing dude


look at Kyle's m3 thats been on sale on this board for over 6 months....and his is much hotter than this one.

he is asking around $36 obo i believe

is Kyle's the charcoal grey one with quad projectors? if yes, his is cosmetically hotter, but has 82K kms Vs 35K kms.....

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^


yup

i guess, 35k is hella low...the dude hardly drives. must be a weekend car

[Z3guy]

You are confusing the club sport kit with the motorsport kit.

The Club Sport kit is available sub $5k, the motorsport kit is $8k+ for 2-way and well over $10k for 3-way.

Edit - here is a complete Moton 1-way kit for $2850.
http://store.bimmerworld.com/moton-street-sport-single-adjustable-damper-set-p1333.aspx

I think he has the clubsport kit due to external resevoirs

[Z3guy]

^


yup

i guess, 35k is hella low...the dude hardly drives. must be a weekend car

E46 M3s are valuable only if they have low kms......for whatever reason, high KMs E46 M3 are not worth much. Look at Shyguy's M3...with over 100KMs, he cannot sell it for $28K. Plus most people looking for E46 M3s are right now are less interested in a baller ride or the fastest ride, they want E46 M3s for the feel and overall balance.

[greendb7]

It is a clean and well kept M3, but once again it is a vert.. I would never consider a vert as an enthusiast, but that's just me.
so for a non enthusiast, they see a stock looking M3 for $38xxx they arent gonna even consider it either

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

E46 M3s are valuable only if they have low kms......for whatever reason, high KMs E46 M3 are not worth much. Look at Shyguy's M3...with over 100KMs, he cannot sell it for $28K. Plus most people looking for E46 M3s are right now are less interested in a baller ride or the fastest ride, they want E46 M3s for the feel and overall balance.

Why is that? is it because maintenance?


ya with $25g invested, you would think he'd AT LEAST get a set of Iforged/HRE rims or SOMETHING

[Z3guy]

Maintenance for an E46 M3 is actually pretty inexpensive for the first 80,000kms....nothing extraordinary other than $200 oil changes & valve adjustments. However as E46 M3 age, the VANOS systems & SMG hydraulic pumps are a common problem. Fixing the VANOS system at the dealership is approx. $4K and SMG pumps approx. $5. However, in the aftermarket, they are selling new rubber seal kits for the VANOS system which costs hundreds Vs Thousands. You just have to find a shop with the specific VANOS tools.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

my old co worker has one, he said each time he takes it back to get it serviced, he gets raped in the wallet. He has the navi+SMG package

[Z3guy]

^ not sure what he is paying for....did he have a SMG pump issue?

[SumAznGuy]

I think he has the clubsport kit due to external resevoirs

His ad says he has the clubsport kit which is $5200 cdn on bimmerworld so $4K installed would be a really good deal on a new set of clubsport.

[drunkrussian]

dayum check out that baller house in the background

[thumper]

Maintenance for an E46 M3 is actually pretty inexpensive for the first 80,000kms....nothing extraordinary other than $200 oil changes & valve adjustments. However as E46 M3 age, the VANOS systems & SMG hydraulic pumps are a common problem. Fixing the VANOS system at the dealership is approx. $4K and SMG pumps approx. $5. However, in the aftermarket, they are selling new rubber seal kits for the VANOS system which costs hundreds Vs Thousands. You just have to find a shop with the specific VANOS tools.

better price than what i was quoted. way back when i was looking for an e46, i was quoted $7k to repair a failed VANOS setup on an m3 that was being sold for too cheap... thank god i had it inspected (that, and the broken rear subframe).

[thumper]

dayum check out that baller house in the background

looks like typical south surrey/white rock residential?

[flagella]

IF ONLY it wasn't a vert.

[ALEX1988]

That's a nice e46, but he is asking too much for a 03'
especially with that interior color and it's a vert
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

looks like typical south surrey/white rock residential?

indeed



BIG is the key

[Leopold Stotch]

wow am i the only one that prefers the vert over the coupe?

i'd love a m3 convertible. would have gotten one over my G if i hadn't been too much of a girl to man up to the costs

[TRD Rs200]

If I were to get a M3 I would totally prefer this one

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/cto/1661243904.html

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

hard top for the win man

[toyota86]

the prices for these cars have plunged quite a bit. its hard to get that much for one these days even if its mint. considering its now possible to get one from across the border for 10-15k for a e46 m3 and 5-10k for a e36 m3. also, a lot of enthusiasts are holding out for the ~95+ eurospec e36 m3 3.2 6spd which will legal to import soon. its really hard for the local e46 m3s to move. i predict that with the up coming hst, it would drive down the prices further. oh and a lot of car clubs that organize track days don't let verts play unless it has a cage or something. anyways, i'll continue my search for a, coupe, no sunroof, manual 6 spd, base + comp pack, blk/blk, half alcantara int e46 m3 stateside.

[dogeatcookie]

Why is that? is it because maintenance?


ya with $25g invested, you would think he'd AT LEAST get a set of Iforged/HRE rims or SOMETHING

lmao, real ballers are undercover ballers, they don't have to prove the fact that they're rich to other people. When I was checking out the car, the owners family had several other cars include a Bentley flying spur and a v8 vantage.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

its not about showing off that i was referring to. IMO doesnt matter wat you drive, an aftermarket set of rims is a must. YOu want to look at stock cars? Go hit up a dealership, its about being different and unique.

[jing]

its not about showing off that i was referring to. IMO doesnt matter wat you drive, an aftermarket set of rims is a must. YOu want to look at stock cars? Go hit up a dealership, its about being different and unique.
Not everyone likes ricing out their cars

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

putting on a set of nice rims is called ricing out???


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[dogeatcookie]

its not about showing off that i was referring to. IMO doesnt matter wat you drive, an aftermarket set of rims is a must. YOu want to look at stock cars? Go hit up a dealership, its about being different and unique.

Many people like the stock look but also like aftermarket performance. That's why they spend a huge amount of money on parts that actually work with eachother to improve the car's performance instead of buying a set of expensive rims and some cosmetic mods and call it a day.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

so much for a car enthusiast forum, i guess everyone likes stock cars than

those who came to the meet must all be ricers


PS:


Getting a set of lighter wheel, forged rims is consider one of the performance mod, along with sticky tires

[jing]

its not about showing off that i was referring to. IMO doesnt matter wat you drive, an aftermarket set of rims is a must. YOu want to look at stock cars? Go hit up a dealership, its about being different and unique.

putting on a set of nice rims is called ricing out???


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Aftermarket = nice ?

By that logic, this must be nice then

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab105/rajgill86/harsh2.jpg

This must be nice too

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs126.snc3/17339_252022180258_716120258_4840007_5671259_n.jpg

[dogeatcookie]

so much for a car enthusiast forum, i guess everyone likes stock cars than

those who came to the meet must all be ricers


PS:


Getting a set of lighter wheel, forged rims is consider one of the performance mod, along with sticky tires

In some cases yes, forged rims, magnesium rims, carbon rims even a set of smaller than stock cast rims, can be classified as performance mods to a car because those actually weigh less than the OEM wheels. In the Euro scene, most people tend to go for stance rather than performance hence the oversized wheels with huge lips, which look very nice, but also increase the unsprung weight of the car, which hinders performance. And BTW the OEM 19's for e46 m3's are all forged.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Aftermarket = nice ?

By that logic, this must be nice then

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab105/rajgill86/harsh2.jpg

This must be nice too

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs126.snc3/17339_252022180258_716120258_4840007_5671259_n.jpg

i didnt say canadian tires nice...lol

[jing]

Is it performance if the car came with steelies but you throw on a set of MR7s

[Z3guy]

get off MugenEvolution back....nice rims is always the starting pt for modding a car....not only do wheels give a car a unique look and stance, they can improve the handling and acceleration (lightweight). Regardless, if you are a performance guy, I would run 4 rear OEM 19s and bigger tires at least......

[Z3guy]

If I were to get a M3 I would totally prefer this one

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/cto/1661243904.html

although this CSL replica looks pretty good...are you nuts?...$30K for 52,000 miles and a US write off car.....

[drunkrussian]

lol mugen evolution wasn't saying anything about rice and on a car mod forum, it's kinda retarded to accuse him of being a ricer for saying the bmw should have some nice aftermarket rims

with that said, nothing wrong with stock with a car like an m3. Some people like to buy really expensive cars and keep them stock looking on the outside. That way it's not so much a unique car that's yours, but more of a stock collector car that you've kept in mint condition. Just my guess

[wstce92]

I was actually looking for a used e46 m3 coupe a while back.
One thing that caught me off guard was that I could not believe how many smg's there are out there.
I love that car in every color except for that puke yellowgreen one, so being as that all I wanted was black interior and manual, I expected to have my pick of used m3's, man was I wrong.
But yeh, like its been said before, if the m3 in the original post was a coupe and wasn't beige, I'm sure it'd be sold by now

[Harvey Specter]

I think the mods scary most people away from this car. It's risky buying a car especially a used M3 which is heavily modded. One thing goes wrong and you're fucked.

[Zyzz]

my yellow on yellow coupe is only worth ~20k nowadays... 80k deprectiation in 8 years

no one gives a shit about mods and people rather buy stock instead of modded ones especially euro cars...

also have fun with inspection II coming up

[Z3guy]

Allot of people buying used E46 M3s want a stock M3. Cosmetic mods or SC I think decrease the value of a M3. However well thought out mods will improve the value slightly...for example;
BBK, rear diff, Dinan parts, coilovers, suspension upgrades. I would predict you would get $0.20 on the dollar

However must have stock OEM parts as well.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

you can never go wrong with a set of BBK

;)

[ALEX1988]

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/1653934643.html
this is a steal
coupe, nice color combo, 6mt, low kms, and it is bone stock.

[Z3guy]

^ that is a good deal.......nice colour combo, 6sp, low kms.....if it is local no accident M3, no brainer....

[thumper]

yeah i don't know what the seller meant by "no mechanical claims"

[freakshow]

^^ If it also had Navi, it'd be almost like stealing..