[BaoXu]

The public bureau in Yibin, Sichuan province, on Wednesday revoked the decision to fine a man who allegedly downloaded pornographic content from the Internet, after the case provoked wide concern online.

The man was fined 3,000 yuan ($439) for allegedly downloading a considerable amount of pornographic videos and pictures. The decision was made by Nanxi county police, who caught the man red-handed.

The case later aroused fierce criticism from the country's netizens who claimed the county's authority had greatly violated the man's civil rights.
source:http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-03/27/content_9651995.htm

See. THE PEOPLE HAVE A FUCKING SAY IN CHINA.

Your response?

[murd0c]

Why download it when its hosted on Revscene


:D

[SkinnyPupp]

My response is to fail you

[Soundy]

BaoXu, what do you have to say about the fact that NOBODY GIVES A FUCK!!?????

[AE98]

BaoXu, these people rather believe we still live in the cold war era and we are still fighting the soviets. I guess no amount of facts can wake these people up, nice try though.

[Alphamale]

BaoXu, these people rather believe we still live in the cold war era and we are still fighting the soviets. I guess no amount of facts can wake these people up, nice try though.

And you think that Canada is still charging a fucking head tax on Chinese people, building railroads with slave labour, and that the government displays a gross amount of racism towards ethnicities on the national level.

How about you go fuck your mother, you inbred piece of shit.

[twitchyzero]

BaoXu, these people rather believe we still live in the cold war era and we are still fighting the soviets. I guess no amount of facts can wake these people up, nice try though.

just cause he had an opinion on the media doesn't mean the PRC will give a fuck

[SpuGen]

we are still fighting the soviets.

I fight the Soviets everyday in Bad Company 2.

[shenmecar]

Hmmmmm

[bengy]

BaoXu, these people rather believe we still live in the cold war era and we are still fighting the soviets. I guess no amount of facts can wake these people up, nice try though.

Why are you in Canada fucktard? Why are you posting on a Canadian website?

[PiuYi]

wait, what happened? can someone refer me to the correct thread where this will make sense?

[CorneringArtist]

wait, what happened? can someone refer me to the correct thread where this will make sense?

http://www.revscene.net/forums/godaddy-follows-googles-t609858.html

Here you go.

[orgasm_donor]

In Communist China, rice picks you.

[SpuGen]

In Communist China, rice picks you.

Wrong.
In Communist China, angry overpaid Government Offical picks you, to pick the rice.

Durrr.

[PiuYi]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/godaddy-follows-googles-t609858.html

Here you go.

i swear my IQ just dropped 50 points from reading those 2 pages
people on RS need to realize 99% of what they say is stipulation and guesswork without the work
the confidence people say things with makes you think they've studied the subject for years, when really its just shit pulled outta their ass

[Blinky]

source:http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-03/27/content_9651995.htm

See. THE PEOPLE HAVE A FUCKING SAY IN CHINA.

Your response?

Why is it even illegal to download porn in the first place? If it's not kiddie porn and nobody is getting hurt, what's wrong?

If people really have a say in China, why are there armed guards in Tiananmen Square? Why can't I parade around Beijing with banners saying that Hu Jintao likes little boys? I'd (probably) be wrong if I did the same for Harper in Canada and I would probably piss off a lot of people, but I could do it.

[StylinRed]

BaoXu, these people rather believe we still live in the cold war era and we are still fighting the soviets. I guess no amount of facts can wake these people up, nice try though.

so you finally changed your "location" huh? guess nobody could believe your in Taiwan with the way you hang on chinas scrotum

[AE98]

Why are you in Canada fucktard? Why are you posting on a Canadian website?

you dumb or something? why are you in Canada?

[AE98]

And you think that Canada is still charging a fucking head tax on Chinese people, building railroads with slave labour, and that the government displays a gross amount of racism towards ethnicities on the national level.

How about you go fuck your mother, you inbred piece of shit.

when did I say that, where did you read that from, are you pulling shit out of ur ass? you are just a worthless piece of shit who cant take the truth and the only the language u know is profanity. how about you go get an education and quit wasting our resource, or move back to whereever your ancestors are from?

[AE98]

so you finally changed your "location" huh? guess nobody could believe your in Taiwan with the way you hang on chinas scrotum

you are such an idiot...alot of ppl in Taiwan want to unite with China just like there are people who wants independence. Seems like a sound reasoning can never happen in revscene...all you people know is profanity and making irrelevant comments.

[Alphamale]

when did I say that, where did you read that from, are you pulling shit out of ur ass?

No, but I'm pulling shit you of your ass.


Get the fuck out.

[StylinRed]

you are such an idiot...alot of ppl in Taiwan want to unite with China just like there are people who wants independence. Seems like a sound reasoning can never happen in revscene...all you people know is profanity and making irrelevant comments.


^^^^ oh the irony....

and learn to use the "edit" button


edit: that's the ironic portion, god your an idiot.... and quit making multiple posts instead of editing your messages... you know you can "multi-quote" right?

[AE98]

^^^^ oh the irony....

and learn to use the "edit" button

what irony? you are not making sense.

so a Taiwanese cannot support China? a little fact for you...ALL Taiwanese except the natives came from China...there are a deep tie down there and alot of ppl want unification..but I guess this simple truth is too much for your little brain to handle? all you know is pressing the fail buttom and talking trash.

[AE98]

No, but I'm pulling shit you of your ass.


Get the fuck out.

what shit? all I see is you shitting the thread with profanity and talkin about peoples mom. try contribute something meaningful rather than shitting like a 3 year old.

[BaoXu]

Why is it even illegal to download porn in the first place? If it's not kiddie porn and nobody is getting hurt, what's wrong?

If people really have a say in China, why are there armed guards in Tiananmen Square? Why can't I parade around Beijing with banners saying that Hu Jintao likes little boys? I'd (probably) be wrong if I did the same for Harper in Canada and I would probably piss off a lot of people, but I could do it.

That's just the way it is in China. Porn is illegal. But there's an underground trade of it. That's just the way China is.

There are armed guards at Tiananmen Square just like there are armed guards at the Pentagon. Its mostly for show but its also for just in case some lunatic wants to start trouble. There's also guards at Buckingham Palace in merry old England!! What the hell is your point?

Go by all means go ahead. Go to Ottawa with your banners. Let me know what happens. Remember take pics.

[Vansterdam]

anyone figured out who baoxu is yet? lol you gotta tell em ur true identity bro! nananan chinaman

[FN-2199]

Someone's angry. Grr!

Chill out. It'5 0nly 7h3 1nt3rn3tz

[impactX]

Classy

YouTube- The Umbrella Men of Tiananmen

[Ronin]

^ actual report

YouTube- Chinese Plain-Clothes Officials Block CNN Cameras With Umbrellas In Tiananmen Square

China is fucked. They try so hard to keep up appearances and maintain censorship when educating the masses about history and how to prevent past garbage would probably be more useful.

[SkinnyPupp]

i swear my IQ just dropped 50 points from reading those 2 pages
people on RS need to realize 99% of what they say is stipulation and guesswork without the work
the confidence people say things with makes you think they've studied the subject for years, when really its just shit pulled outta their ass
That's kind of my point. Everyone has their own idea of how things should be, and predictions of what will happen in our future. I am all about sharing these ideas, even if people disagree. If people can share their opinion without acting like a brainwashed fucking moronic twat, then they are welcome to do so.

But if all they do is post stupid pointless bullshit over and over, they will fail and fail until eventually they get permabanned just for being so damn annoying. Starting a thread in my name is one step towards that.

[Alphamale]

^ actual report

YouTube- Chinese Plain-Clothes Officials Block CNN Cameras With Umbrellas In Tiananmen Square (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGHd2bPn4ZU)

China is fucked. They try so hard to keep up appearances and maintain censorship when educating the masses about history and how to prevent past garbage would probably be more useful.

I thought Emily Chang looked kinda hawt until I saw this:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/CNN/anchors_reporters/images/chang.emily.jpg

[!Tigger]

AH MY GOD MY EYES

[mikemhg]

Get the fuck out of my country.

[AE98]

Get the fuck out of my country.

its everyone's country. if you dont like it you should get the fuck out.

[RRxtar]

i was born here. my parents were born here, and their parents were born here. you came here.

but thats actually not the point....


the point is that i like it here, and i like the way things are. i didnt come here closed minded and attempt to turn here into where i came from.

[AE98]

i was born here. my parents were born here, and their parents were born here. you came here.

but thats actually not the point....


the point is that i like it here, and i like the way things are. i didnt come here closed minded and attempt to turn here into where i came from.

you made the exact point.

Your parents, and your ancestors came here and turn here into there they came from. Your european ancestors brought european cultures into canada and turned canada into an european cultured country.

had your ancestors assimilated into the true "canadian" culture, we will all be speaking natives right now.

so dont bash the Chinese for bringing their culture, the european did exactly just that.

[Qmx323]

what is up with all these china related threads lately?

[classified]

I fight the Soviets everyday in Bad Company 2.

i think we are the only ones fighting the soviets still

[MarkyMark]

What culture are you bringing exactly AE98? Canada isn't going to adopt Chinese culture, and the only thing you are bringing here is a bunch of crybaby bullshit. This all started because some lady was sent packing back to her country, and you thought it was the first time it's ever happened before. You only gave a shit because of her ethnicity anyways.

And here in Canada it's not headline news when someone doesn't get fined for watching porn.
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[Brianrietta]

And here in Canada it's not headline news when someone doesn't get fined for watching porn.
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Hell, I have the white girls thread open on my other monitor right now.

[AE98]

What culture are you bringing exactly AE98? Canada isn't going to adopt Chinese culture, and the only thing you are bringing here is a bunch of crybaby bullshit. This all started because some lady was sent packing back to her country, and you thought it was the first time it's ever happened before. You only gave a shit because of her ethnicity anyways.

And here in Canada it's not headline news when someone doesn't get fined for watching porn.
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what culture I am bringning in is beside the point. The point is, canadians need to realize that alot of the Chinese in Vancouver did not adpot to the "Canadian" culture just like the Europeans did not adpot to Native culture.

If Canada really does have a culture to adpot into, and the culture is good, I am sure it wil occur naturally. However the sad truth is canada does not really have a culture that has depth. You have to think why immigrants adpot to American cultures much quickly and willingly (and we already think american culture is trashy) than immigrants adpoting to Canadian culture, if there is any.

You know the further you want to poke into this matter the more obvious it will be to you why Canadian culture was not adpoted by many, and the truth may hurt your self esteem.

[MarkyMark]

As long as I can say and do what I want without my country stopping me like I'm a child who can't think for himself, then who cares what your beliefs are. At the end of the day Canada isn't going to become anything like China so what does it matter
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[woob]

what culture I am bringning in is beside the point. The point is, canadians need to realize that alot of the Chinese in Vancouver did not adpot to the "Canadian" culture just like the Europeans did not adpot to Native culture.

If Canada really does have a culture to adpot into, and the culture is good, I am sure it wil occur naturally. However the sad truth is canada does not really have a culture that has depth. You have to think why immigrants adpot to American cultures much quickly and willingly (and we already think american culture is trashy) than immigrants adpoting to Canadian culture, if there is any.

You know the further you want to poke into this matter the more obvious it will be to you why Canadian culture was not adpoted by many, and the truth may hurt your self esteem.

http://i43.tinypic.com/301myhc.jpg

[hchang]

anyone figured out who baoxu is yet? lol you gotta tell em ur true identity bro! nananan chinaman

I LOL'd when I read this.

I guess its cause my IQ also dropped 50 points after reading these 2 threads.

[AE98]

As long as I can say and do what I want without my country stopping me like I'm a child who can't think for himself, then who cares what your beliefs are. At the end of the day Canada isn't going to become anything like China so what does it matter
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Every country is run differently, and every country protects its citizen. In Canada drugs are ilegal because the government believes its bad for our citizen's physical health.

In China pornography is ilegal because because the government believes its bad for our citizen's mental health.

The truth is, people have very little self control, thats why the government needs to do its part. If everyone just do whatever we like Vancouver will soon be overrun by drug addicts and no longer suitable for living, you know that.

[Ronin]

I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

The Europeans didn't have to adopt (...or adpot...) Native culture. No dominant force adopts the culture of a conquered population. This place wasn't Canada until European settlers declared it to be so. Canada has already done so much to incorporate the indigenous people...but let's be clear...the Aboriginal people here are not Canada. They have sovereignty over their own lands. Canada was not Canada until it was established by the British North American Act in 1867.

No one here is saying that Chinese people need to become all Canadian all of a sudden once they come here. Sure, it annoys me that people can't speak English but whatever. Canada promotes multiculturalism.

What most people are saying here is that China and their backward ass ways of censorship, human rights violations, etc are ridiculous and fucked up. To suggest otherwise because it's "part of their culture" is just stupid. Oh yeah, that African warlord can go ahead and slaughter thousands and rape virgins to cure AIDS...it's all good because it's part of their culture. Kim Jong Il can kill everyone that suggests he isn't a god because...well, North Korean culture declares him a living deity. Yep, that's all fine.

[AE98]

I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.

The Europeans didn't have to adopt (...or adpot...) Native culture. No dominant force adopts the culture of a conquered population. This place wasn't Canada until European settlers declared it to be so. Canada has already done so much to incorporate the indigenous people...but let's be clear...the Aboriginal people here are not Canada. They have sovereignty over their own lands. Canada was not Canada until it was established by the British North American Act in 1867.

No one here is saying that Chinese people need to become all Canadian all of a sudden once they come here. Sure, it annoys me that people can't speak English but whatever. Canada promotes multiculturalism.

What most people are saying here is that China and their backward ass ways of censorship, human rights violations, etc are ridiculous and fucked up. To suggest otherwise because it's "part of their culture" is just stupid. Oh yeah, that African warlord can go ahead and slaughter thousands and rape virgins to cure AIDS...it's all good because it's part of their culture. Kim Jong Il can kill everyone that suggests he isn't a god because...well, North Korean culture declares him a living deity. Yep, that's all fine.


But you see, this is exactly where the culture difference stem from.

Some Canadians think that the Chinese way of censorship is backward, but the Chinese may think the Canadian way (or the western way) of letting pronography and violent contents go about freely and drug use is barbaric.

So who is right? My stand is nobody is right, every civilzation has the right to determine how to run their country, and its up to noone's business to judge whether its backward or not. China has censorship partly because of their moral values, as sex and violence are a loong time taboo in the Chinese culture, and to me, its rather civilized, than backward as you suggest.

[MarkyMark]

Well the last time I looked around a lot of people born in Canada weren't trying to bring them and their family over to China for a better life
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[AE98]

Well the last time I looked around a lot of people born in Canada weren't trying to bring them and their family over to China for a better life
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wrong again. Try google it and find out for yourself how many westerns are living and working in China now..especially in Shanghai and Beijing. It will blow your mind away.

last time I was in Shanghai I see so many white people there just like theres so many Chinese in vancouver

[-kish-]

But you see, this is exactly where the culture difference stem from.

Some Canadians think that the Chinese way of censorship is backward, but the Chinese may think the Canadian way (or the western way) of letting pronography and violent contents go about freely and drug use is barbaric.

So who is right?

It doesn't matter if chinese people here think the Canadian way is backwards. This isn't China. Do you see Canadians, or in your words "Europeans" trying to stir shit up in China. Obviously not. If you don't like Canada's way of doing things or our values your welcome to leave. I doubt anyone would miss your presence anyway.

I'm tired of reading your threads about immigrants. Stop posting and go back to china.

[woob]

This has digressed into an ethics debate (absolute Truth vs. relative truth) and is bound to run in circles until everyone says "fuck this".

[MarkyMark]

wrong again. Try google it and find out for yourself how many westerns are living and working in China now..especially in Shanghai and Beijing. It will blow your mind away.

last time I was in Shanghai I see so many white people there just like theres so many Chinese in vancouver

For work, they didn't move there for the lifestyle, and chances are their family still lives in Canada
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[AE98]

It doesn't matter if chinese people here think the Canadian way is backwards. This isn't China. Do you see Canadians, or in your words "Europeans" trying to stir shit up in China. Obviously not. If you don't like Canada's way of doing things or our values your welcome to leave. I doubt anyone would miss your presence anyway.

I'm tired of reading your threads about immigrants. Stop posting and go back to china.


westerners are the ones that like to start shit in China the most. always accusing China for human right violation and censorship. But in fact they are doing much worse. Invading Iraq and slaughtering innocent civilians, and let druggies and criminal run the city.

But has China every accused western countries for that? no, so neither should western countries point their fingers at china.

And by the way my parents paid the Canadian government to come here..you have no idea how much money Canada has made off the immigrants. Its billions of dollars to the Canadian economy, nevermind the number of jobs created. So the least you can do is being grateful. The paying immigrants have every right to stay. If you dont like the immigrants here driving up the property value and changing the culture, you are welcome to leave too, I am sure the immigrants will be more than happy to take your property off your hands.

[AE98]

For work, they didn't move there for the lifestyle, and chances are their family still lives in Canada
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some may keep their families back home, but I see alot of westerners bring their wife and kids to China and settle there..guess you havent been.

[bengy]

some may keep their families back home, but I see alot of westerners bring their wife and kids to China and settle there..guess you havent been.

You expect people to take you seriously when you post threads about Brits chopping off Chinese heads in Beijing more than 100 years ago?

GTFO

[Ronin]

But you see, this is exactly where the culture difference stem from.

Some Canadians think that the Chinese way of censorship is backward, but the Chinese may think the Canadian way (or the western way) of letting pronography and violent contents go about freely and drug use is barbaric.

So who is right? My stand is nobody is right, every civilzation has the right to determine how to run their country, and its up to noone's business to judge whether its backward or not. China has censorship partly because of their moral values, as sex and violence are a loong time taboo in the Chinese culture, and to me, its rather civilized, than backward as you suggest.

Are you fucking kidding me? Violence taboo in China? You can be executed for any number of crimes in China and your family has to pay for the bullet used. The military is given near carte blanche to do whatever they want. Look at Tiananmen Square where thousands of students were slaughtered.

Sex? Sex is a natural part of human culture...not just any particular country. To suggest that sex is taboo in any way is stupid. We all have sex. We all think about sex. It is archaic to believe that sex isn't an integral part of human operations.

Censorship violates a basic human right, one of the many China violates. In China, you have limited freedom in areas such as religion, movement, politics, etc...all of which if the rules are broken, you are screwed. Plus there are heavy incentives for everything else that they cannot regulate. No government should have that amount of control over its population.

This doesn't even deal with all the dirty shit that China is involved in behind the scenes.

Sorry, but there will be no convincing us that China is civilized. If civility means you can't do anything but be one of the billion drones made in the image of the Chinese government, you need to go look it up in the dictionary.

[hk20000]

This has digressed into an ethics debate (absolute Truth vs. relative truth) and is bound to run in circles until everyone says "fuck this".

fuck this.

[Ronin]

westerners are the ones that like to start shit in China the most. always accusing China for human right violation and censorship. But in fact they are doing much worse. Invading Iraq and slaughtering innocent civilians, and let druggies and criminal run the city.

But has China every accused western countries for that? no, so neither should western countries point their fingers at china.

And by the way my parents paid the Canadian government to come here..you have no idea how much money Canada has made off the immigrants. Its billions of dollars to the Canadian economy, nevermind the number of jobs created. So the least you can do is being grateful. The paying immigrants have every right to stay. If you dont like the immigrants here driving up the property value and changing the culture, you are welcome to leave too, I am sure the immigrants will be more than happy to take your property off your hands.

It's no secret that Canada requires immigration to keep going but when someone comes to Canada, uses our existing infrastructure and services, do you not think they should be paid?

Or are you the sort of person that walks into a restaurant and thinks you deserve to eat there for free?

Canada has no official involvement in Iraq. We are not part of the ongoing war there. Canada is currently fighting alongside the United States in Afghanistan as the government in that country at the time supported and haboured the terrorists responsible for the WTC attacks of 9/11.

Druggies and criminals do not run the city. Until the government of Canada comes out and says the Hell's Angels are now cabinet ministers, you are full of shit. There is ongoing crack-downs on that sort of garbage everywhere in Canada. Whether or not they are effective or not and whether the current punishments are enough to deter criminal activity is debatable but let's be clear...just because criminals are prosperous due to the rules of supply and demand does not mean they are the dominant influence of our country. Your argument has no grounds.

[AE98]

Are you fucking kidding me? Violence taboo in China? You can be executed for any number of crimes in China and your family has to pay for the bullet used. The military is given near carte blanche to do whatever they want. Look at Tiananmen Square where thousands of students were slaughtered.

Sex? Sex is a natural part of human culture...not just any particular country. To suggest that sex is taboo in any way is stupid. We all have sex. We all think about sex. It is archaic to believe that sex isn't an integral part of human operations.

Censorship violates a basic human right, one of the many China violates. In China, you have limited freedom in areas such as religion, movement, politics, etc...all of which if the rules are broken, you are screwed. Plus there are heavy incentives for everything else that they cannot regulate. No government should have that amount of control over its population.

This doesn't even deal with all the dirty shit that China is involved in behind the scenes.

Sorry, but there will be no convincing us that China is civilized. If civility means you can't do anything but be one of the billion drones made in the image of the Chinese government, you need to go look it up in the dictionary.


The definition of being "Civilized" is not for you to decide.

In Chinese culture sex is definitely a taboo that people feel embarrased or even feel guilty to talk about. Pornography may even be considered as immoral unitl quite recently that this start to change. If you have been to rural China you will see how conservatively the people there dress, and it may even be considered offensive to display anything pornography related, and this is their culture, which the Chinese don't welcome people to point their fingers at. If one day the Chinese government feel its time to allow pornogprahy then the change will come, but it must come from within.

Regarding death penalty..its only justice that people who commit crimes deserve whats coming to them. If you killed someone or are a drug pusher in China you will most likely be executed, and that is justice, and most of the people there support that.

Even in highly advanced Asian countries like Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, death penalty still have over 80% of popular support..to them its justice.

In Canada a serial killer or drug czar will only be jailed for several year and will never be put down and off he go harming others again. This, to me , is whats truly barbaric.

[AE98]

You expect people to take you seriously when you post threads about Brits chopping off Chinese heads in Beijing more than 100 years ago?

GTFO

whats wrong with posting history? too much for your narrow mind to take? why dont you GTFO

[woob]

The definition of being "Civilized" is not for you to decide.

Nor is it for you.





I feel like I'm being trolled.

[AE98]

It's no secret that Canada requires immigration to keep going but when someone comes to Canada, uses our existing infrastructure and services, do you not think they should be paid?

Or are you the sort of person that walks into a restaurant and thinks you deserve to eat there for free?

Canada has no official involvement in Iraq. We are not part of the ongoing war there. Canada is currently fighting alongside the United States in Afghanistan as the government in that country at the time supported and haboured the terrorists responsible for the WTC attacks of 9/11.

Druggies and criminals do not run the city. Until the government of Canada comes out and says the Hell's Angels are now cabinet ministers, you are full of shit. There is ongoing crack-downs on that sort of garbage everywhere in Canada. Whether or not they are effective or not and whether the current punishments are enough to deter criminal activity is debatable but let's be clear...just because criminals are prosperous due to the rules of supply and demand does not mean they are the dominant influence of our country. Your argument has no grounds.


You dont know jackshit.

I have personal friends with RCMP and he told me how corrupted it is.
The RCMP knows very well who the drug dealers are and where they live but 99% of the time they cant do jackshit about it. Because of "lack of evidence"(where evidence is apparent) or bs like "afraid of getting sued"

The level of preveilence of drugs here in Vancouer already suggest that the druggies do indeed run the city. They can still go about doing their business and with little chance of being caught. The shooting rage last year and this year further proved my point.

You will never see gansters shooting at eachother for a full year like we had last year anywhere in the advanced part of Asia (Japan Taiwan Korea some cities of China), to them it is incredible. As soon as any shooting happens the entire gang will be busted and most will be thrown to jail, unlike in Canada the shooting is still ongoing and will still be with this lousy justice system.

do you know that Canada and North America's crima rate is 300% higher than in East Asian nations? (Again Taiwan Japan South Korea. I am excluding China because alot of trolls gonna comment how China's stats is not reliable and etc) so much for being a civilized country.

[MarkyMark]

Sex is taboo in China, they only have 1.3 billion people and are now capped at 1 child per family unless they want to pay a huge fine or have it aborted...I'd say they like to have sex as much as anyone lol
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[CorneringArtist]

do you know that Canada and North America's crima rate is 300% higher than in East Asian nations? (Again Taiwan Japan South Korea. I am excluding China because alot of trolls gonna comment how China's stats is not reliable and etc) so much for being a civilized country.

Leaving out China is a contradictory action to your current argument. Why are you trying to bias everything against Canada? Regardless if the statistics are unreliable or not, leaving them out just means you have something to hide.

If China is this great country that you paint it out to be, then there would be no censorship. Otherwise, I see a country that harbors a heavily fragmented version of it's ideology that only looks perfect on paper but is restrictive to movements of its people.

[twitchyzero]

the sad truth is canada does not really have a culture that has depth. You have to think why immigrants adpot to American cultures much quickly and willingly (and we already think american culture is trashy) than immigrants adpoting to Canadian culture, if there is any.


Way to contradict yourself. Earlier in the week you said:

Seeing how fucked up american kids are growing up, I think China has done good.

a little fact for you...ALL Taiwanese except the natives came from China
fuck not this shit again.
homo sapiens originated from Africa, does that make all of us African? Why does it matter that maybe ethnically they are almost identical? You do realize many Taiwanese people moved the island in the 17th to 19th century?

alot of ppl in Taiwan want to unite with China just like there are people who wants independence..
"alot of ppl?" it's a small, small minority that wants to have their rights violated. You are more than happy to join them yourself with your families that own businesses on the mainland.

OP is clearly an advocate for nuthugging the communists.

[AE98]

Leaving out China is a contradictory action to your current argument. Why are you trying to bias everything against Canada? Regardless if the statistics are unreliable or not, leaving them out just means you have something to hide.

If China is this great country that you paint it out to be, then there would be no censorship. Otherwise, I see a country that harbors a heavily fragmented version of it's ideology that only looks perfect on paper but is restrictive to movements of its people.

If you want to include China, then the stats will bring the whole western countries to shame. The overall crime rate in any western countries is at least 400% higher than in China, especially murder rate per capita.

I can personally attest to this..I have been working in Shanghai for a Taiwanese company in 2007 and I felt extremely safe both day and night...much safer than Vancouver. during that year I have not seen any gangster or gangsters like kids roaming the street, nor have I seen any drug addicts anywhere be it streets or clubs. There may be cases when police are involved but mostly for petty crimes.

Let me remind you Shanghai is a gigantic city with over 20 million population and is the Financial hub of China just like New York for the US. And to keep crime rate this low to me is amazing.

And yet the city or the country even is extremely safe...and all my white friends who have been to china agree that its super safe..my friend from London once told me how he rarely walks on the street in London at night because u might be mugged or harrased by robbers or teenagers, but this never happens in Shanghai.


To answer to your other comment, China has censorship for a reason. To be frank, the government doesnt think that the population is ready to handle all the information yet. Just like a parent would protect its child from reading too much adult contents because the child is too little to comprehend and may be harmful to the child. When the time is ready I am sure the change will come.

If you have been to China and have really made in depth contacts with local Chinese..be it an educated person or a farmer, you will understand that China is not ready for democracy yet.

The westerners tried preach to Africa about democracy, and look what happend? Eastern Europe tried to adpot Western democracy and the result is a mess. The Chinese government is very smart to not let that happen again in China. I say a lesson learned.

2005 was the first time I ever set foot in China, before that I am like many of you RSer who thinks China is an evil commy country that I will never go in my entire life. Once I been there my view totally changed. I am sure many of you will be like me once you actually go there.

[BaoXu]

Leaving out China is a contradictory action to your current argument. Why are you trying to bias everything against Canada? Regardless if the statistics are unreliable or not, leaving them out just means you have something to hide.

If China is this great country that you paint it out to be, then there would be no censorship. Otherwise, I see a country that harbors a heavily fragmented version of it's ideology that only looks perfect on paper but is restrictive to movements of its people.

Censorship is not an issue at all with most Mainlanders. Most of them don't even care about google, facebook, and twitter because most of them can't read english or they rather use china-based social networking websites anyways.

[BaoXu]

AE98 shut the fuck up.

[CorneringArtist]

AE98 shut the fuck up.

One of the best things I've heard in this thread so far. I feel dumber reading most of his posts that primal instincts are starting to kick in (ie. desk banging, etc.). I have to take that point of the Chinese-language networks, I've got no issue with that, but some Internet content is censored that would impact people's ways of thinking in China if it wasn't, even if our ignorant buddy over there believes it's for "the best interests of the people".

[AE98]

One of the best things I've heard in this thread so far. I feel dumber reading most of his posts that primal instincts are starting to kick in (ie. desk banging, etc.). I have to take that point of the Chinese-language networks, I've got no issue with that, but some Internet content is censored that would impact people's ways of thinking in China if it wasn't, even if our ignorant buddy over there believes it's for "the best interests of the people".

You are too dumb to comprehend the facts..and if you feel it makes u dumb why bother reading it, arent you the dumb one

[CorneringArtist]

You are too dumb to comprehend the facts..and if you feel it makes u dumb why bother reading it, arent you the dumb one

Way to go, attacking me AD HOMINEM, not like you haven't done it already, but I like pointing out fallacies in arguments. Did my arguments ever personally address you? I don't think they did, they only addressed your arguments. Stop while you're ahead, you're making contradictory and fallacious statements that hold little weight anymore since it's just going in a circle now. It's only a matter of time before more fallacies are made. I'm surprised you've made it this far without getting the banhammer.

EDIT: May as well toss this in, I've been waiting for a good time to use it, and now seems like a decent time.
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[AE98]

Way to go, attacking me AD HOMINEM, not like you haven't done it already, but I like pointing out fallacies in arguments. Did my arguments ever personally address you? I don't think they did, they only addressed your arguments. Stop while you're ahead, you're making contradictory and fallacious statements that hold little weight anymore since it's just going in a circle now. It's only a matter of time before more fallacies are made. I'm surprised you've made it this far without getting the banhammer.

EDIT: May as well toss this in, I've been waiting for a good time to use it, and now seems like a decent time.
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/3/22/129137735603144265.jpg

well, then why dont you point out where exact the "fallacies" are? instead of posting comments such as "i feel dumber reading", wouldnt it be more constructive to state your reasonings and discuss?

[Underdawg]

I have personal friends with RCMP and he told me how corrupted it is.
The RCMP knows very well who the drug dealers are and where they live but 99% of the time they cant do jackshit about it. Because of "lack of evidence"(where evidence is apparent) or bs like "afraid of getting sued"

Stop acting like there is no corruption in China jackass. We all know a lot of regional Chinese governments and police forces are 10 times more corrupted than North America. (You read about them all the time in Chinese news too, dont you?)



You will never see gansters shooting at eachother for a full year like we had last year anywhere in the advanced part of Asia (Japan Taiwan Korea some cities of China), to them it is incredible. As soon as any shooting happens the entire gang will be busted and most will be thrown to jail

Japan? ok we are talking about a country that has a tradition with Yakuza's business/political influence? The main offices of those organized crime groups are all on google maps, and most of them have been pass down by the families. How come they are not busted?

Taiwan? There are more organized crimes in Taiwan than Canada thats for sure, and a lot of them have major political/business influence.


do you know that Canada and North America's crima rate is 300% higher than in East Asian nations? (Again Taiwan Japan South Korea. I am excluding China because alot of trolls gonna comment how China's stats is not reliable and etc) so much for being a civilized country.

Dont act like everyone on RS are retards and stop pulling shit figures out of your ass. I also want to remind you one more thing. A lot of those old organized crime groups in North America were all formed by Chinese immigrants. Look at the Chinatowns in NYC or LA... how many gangs originated from there? Those so-called "business groups" are just an umbrella term for "moving old habits" into a new country. Things such as human trafficking, smuggling, prostitution, drug dealing, and the whole shitbang. So much for "bringing our own culture" into a new place....


You dont know jackshit.

[Soundy]

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[El Bastardo]

wrong again. Try google it and find out for yourself how many westerns are living and working in China now..especially in Shanghai and Beijing. It will blow your mind away.

last time I was in Shanghai I see so many white people there just like theres so many Chinese in vancouver



Yeah. I, for one, hear tons of stories about white people coming to Shanghai in shipping containers and entering the country on fake papers.

[CorneringArtist]

well, then why dont you point out where exact the "fallacies" are? instead of posting comments such as "i feel dumber reading", wouldnt it be more constructive to state your reasonings and discuss?

You are too dumb to comprehend the facts..and if you feel it makes u dumb why bother reading it, arent you the dumb one
Ad Hominem

If Canada really does have a culture to adpot into, and the culture is good, I am sure it wil occur naturally. However the sad truth is canada does not really have a culture that has depth. You have to think why immigrants adpot to American cultures much quickly and willingly (and we already think american culture is trashy) than immigrants adpoting to Canadian culture, if there is any.
Generalization. You can't state that immigrants "adpot" to cultures willingly as you do not speak for them. Also stating that Canada has no depth in terms of culture is also false. You can see it around Vancouver (The Olympics showed exactly what kind of cultures are here in BC alone.) This country has many cultures, which essentially leads to depth, China is mainly Chinese+other Chinese ethnic groups.

The truth is, people have very little self control, thats why the government needs to do its part. If everyone just do whatever we like Vancouver will soon be overrun by drug addicts and no longer suitable for living, you know that.
Another generalization you cant make. You cant generalize people in an argument and say that people have very little self control because not EVERYONE has little self control.

The level of preveilence of drugs here in Vancouer already suggest that the druggies do indeed run the city. They can still go about doing their business and with little chance of being caught. The shooting rage last year and this year further proved my point.
Fallacy of false cause. It wasn't druggies, it was gangs, get your facts straight.

See? Those are just a few of the many fallacies you have stated here. You are also missing facts, as there IS corruption and crime in China. You seem to think that isn't the case, in reality however, China does have corruption problems (censorship takes away the basic right to free speech). You need to check your facts and learn how to attack ARGUMENTS not PEOPLE.

[SkinnyPupp]

I think RS needs to take a break from AE98. I heard he is a dupe account anyway, so...

[Underdawg]

...And the tribe has spoken...

[wouwou]

^Life on Rev will be less fun without trolls.

Or Spoonwork

[SkinnyPupp]

Occasional trolling can be somewhat entertaining, but when it just goes on and on and on with the idiocy, it's time for them to go away for a while.

And if someone thinks it's part of one's culture to want to be censored and treated like shit.. Well I hope they never come back once their ban is over. That is just disgusting.

[StylinRed]

omg its a zombie!

[El Bastardo]

Hah. He PM'd me calling me a Communist.

[CP.AR]

off topic but El Bastardo I spent a good 5 minutes looking at your new avatar gif...

[Meowjin]

wrong again. Try google it and find out for yourself how many westerns are living and working in China now..especially in Shanghai and Beijing. It will blow your mind away.

last time I was in Shanghai I see so many white people there just like theres so many Chinese in vancouver

You mean the losers that fuck up their life so much that they go to china to teach english?
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

I fight the Soviets everyday in Bad Company 2.

:haha::haha::haha:

[Underdawg]

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[RRxtar]

Occasional trolling can be somewhat entertaining, but when it just goes on and on and on with the idiocy, it's time for them to go away for a while.

And if someone thinks it's part of one's culture to want to be censored and treated like shit.. Well I hope they never come back once their ban is over. That is just disgusting.
i love the ironing how this thread is about censorship in china, but the chinese guy got censored in here!

[goo3]

I can personally attest to this..I have been working in Shanghai for a Taiwanese company in 2007

...

To answer to your other comment, China has censorship for a reason. To be frank, the government doesnt think that the population is ready to handle all the information yet. Just like a parent would protect its child from reading too much adult contents because the child is too little to comprehend and may be harmful to the child. When the time is ready I am sure the change will come.

If you have been to China and have really made in depth contacts with local Chinese..be it an educated person or a farmer, you will understand that China is not ready for democracy yet.

The westerners tried preach to Africa about democracy, and look what happend? Eastern Europe tried to adpot Western democracy and the result is a mess. The Chinese government is very smart to not let that happen again in China. I say a lesson learned.

2005 was the first time I ever set foot in China, before that I am like many of you RSer who thinks China is an evil commy country that I will never go in my entire life. Once I been there my view totally changed. I am sure many of you will be like me once you actually go there.

I think RS needs to take a break from AE98. I heard he is a dupe account anyway, so...

That's totally Jingwu.

i love the ironing how this thread is about censorship in china, but the chinese guy got censored in here!

Now, here's the real irony:

RS ppl get pissed @ the Chinese govt
China guys get pissed @ skinnypupp

Both for abusing their power! Isn't that a mindtrip? Maybe we all have more in common than we think.

All we need now is someone to kiss up to skinnypupp like that mindless fool Jingwu does to the Chinese Govt to finish it all off. We call this a paradox or something? I'm sure there's a name for it.

[Mancini]

That's just the way it is in China. Porn is illegal. But there's an underground trade of it. That's just the way China is.

There are armed guards at Tiananmen Square just like there are armed guards at the Pentagon. Its mostly for show but its also for just in case some lunatic wants to start trouble. There's also guards at Buckingham Palace in merry old England!! What the hell is your point?

Go by all means go ahead. Go to Ottawa with your banners. Let me know what happens. Remember take pics.

The pentagon is home to the national department of defense. Tiananmen square is not.

Buckingham palace is the official residence of the monarchy. Trafalgar square does not have armed guards.

What is your point? That peaceful protest against human rights violations constitutes lunacy?

[Great68]

i love the ironing how this thread is about censorship in china, but the chinese guy got censored in here!

Love that ironing?

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[StealthFighter]

the ironing is delicious.


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[SlySi]

I think RS needs to take a break from AE98. I heard he is a dupe account anyway, so...

Shit...... I got trolled again..