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500km/h train in China
asian_XL
04-09-2010, 08:44 AM
http://webpic.chinareviewnews.com/upload/201004/9/101285159.jpg
70% Made in China
can take 112 passengers
thumper
04-09-2010, 08:55 AM
the 70% chinese content worries me, especially after all the posts here on RS of chinese built cars :o
dutch
04-09-2010, 09:03 AM
kind of surprising it only takes 112 passengers? A lot of planes can handle more then that.
simsimi1004
04-09-2010, 09:06 AM
kind of surprising it only takes 112 passengers? A lot of planes can handle more then that.
planes are also uncomparably huge
Gumby
04-09-2010, 09:15 AM
70% Made in China
can take 112 crash test dummies
Fixed.
kind of surprising it only takes 112 passengers? A lot of planes can handle more then that.
Comparing a train to a plane?
:facepalm:
SkinnyPupp
04-09-2010, 09:48 AM
Not going near that fucking thing. Ever.
fishing666
04-09-2010, 01:22 PM
holy crap..the great train of china..those guys are workaholics not like the lazy fucks we got around here with 10guys controlling traffic and 1 guy on a bulldozer,excavator and compactor
hal0g0dv2
04-09-2010, 01:24 PM
so is there a article ?
yvrnycracer
04-09-2010, 02:29 PM
Germany tested this first...
http://cybershack.com/img/news/2007/09-Maglev512x288.jpg
here is an old article outlining the project...
http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/shanghai-maglev/
and an article/video...
http://english.cctv.com/program/bizchina/20100409/103013.shtml
bcedhk
04-09-2010, 02:53 PM
watch the train tracks being stolen in the next month.
hk20000
04-09-2010, 03:07 PM
is it magno-lev technology? That's nice it's quite smooth.
Didn't this open a few years ago?
bcedhk
04-09-2010, 04:52 PM
is it magno-lev technology? That's nice it's quite smooth.
so silent that the passengers wont know before they crash
TRDood
04-09-2010, 05:57 PM
Didn't this open a few years ago?
yea, i thought it opened last year. it cost more than a plane ticket.
asian_XL
04-09-2010, 06:36 PM
^ the last one can go up to 350km/h only and take more people.
and what can skytrain go, huh? 70? 80km/h...I LOL
Toeknee
04-09-2010, 07:02 PM
lol so much hate on chinese quality. to be fair i think most of the shitty quality chinese products are made because shady companies try to cut cost, and eventually get busted and bankrupt.
This train is funded by the government isn't it? I think the quality comparison would be completely different then.
willystyle
04-09-2010, 07:22 PM
Chinese-made products are fine as long there's quality-control. IE. Take a look at the iPhone.
dutch
04-09-2010, 07:45 PM
Comparing a train to a plane?
:facepalm:
Its a fairly common comparison. Environmental impact, convenience, price to ride, cost to construct, comfort, speed, number of passengers.
I'm willing to bet, initially this train will cost more to ride initially then a plane would cost.
Airlines are definitely competing with trains these days:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2010-02/11/content_9462903.htm
Don't get me wrong, i think trains are awesome and i wish we had more here. I'm just surprised the capacity on this one is so low. If its 112 passengers per car and is expandable, it's awesome. But the OP implied that the capacity for the whole train is 112.
The shinkansen does way more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E1_Series_Shinkansen
El Bastardo
04-09-2010, 08:12 PM
lol so much hate on chinese quality. to be fair i think most of the shitty quality chinese products are made because shady companies try to cut cost, and eventually get busted and bankrupt.
Companies go to China for the cheap manufacturing but ultimately the quality is up to the Chinese manufacturer. It shouldn't be up to large conglomerates to micromanage the quality of a company they've contracted to.
The failure isn't with "shady companies", its with Chinese manufacturers who want to maximize profits by shaving operating costs.
Toeknee
04-09-2010, 09:05 PM
^ I can't think of a single western company that has outsourced their production to China ending up getting slammed for the quality. Companies over here take a lot of precautions and abide a lot of standards and codes, and they would of course have quality assurance at the end of the assembly line.
What I meant by "shady companies" refer the mainlander companies. They have less training with engineering ethics or engineering codes/standards to follow. Some of them have no moral either, that's why you see the toy export recalls or some guys reusing trash oil for cooking oil in restaurants.
But this 500km/h train has got to be funded by the government... and i'd believe they would have tighter quality checks than the average companies. Because if someone dies because of cutting corners for this construction, pretty sure someone would end up getting the death penalty (less incentive to cut corners)...
J____
04-09-2010, 09:41 PM
lol so much hate on chinese quality. to be fair i think most of the shitty quality chinese products are made because shady companies try to cut cost, and eventually get busted and bankrupt.
This train is funded by the government isn't it? I think the quality comparison would be completely different then.
wrong. government funded projects dont cut corners to cut cost, but cut corners so the higher ups can pocket the money.
PiuYi
04-09-2010, 09:51 PM
^ the last one can go up to 350km/h only and take more people.
and what can skytrain go, huh? 70? 80km/h...I LOL
skytrain travels within the city... these go between cities...:confused:
roastpuff
04-09-2010, 10:15 PM
I get to ride this in May... I will let you know if I die by using RS Mobile, ok?
danned
04-09-2010, 10:26 PM
skytrain failed comparing with that train
shenmecar
04-09-2010, 10:28 PM
I get to ride this in May... I will let you know if I die by using RS Mobile, ok?
Then you must use your very last seconds on planet earth to post a reply in this thread!
skyxx
04-09-2010, 10:37 PM
If I had a few minutes to live I wouldn't even reply to this thread but instead I would be browsing the NWS forums. :lol
asian_XL
04-09-2010, 10:39 PM
skytrain travels within the city... these go between cities...:confused:
so? do you drive a Smart car within the city and pick up chicks?
Toeknee
04-09-2010, 10:59 PM
^ i LOL'd
twitchyzero
04-10-2010, 12:34 AM
why are people comparing a rapid transport subway trains to high speed rail?
i'm with toeknee on this one...too many jumping to the conclusions that this will be unsafe etc
i'm surprised china didn't develop one until now..and now they are already getting into the meglev sector? admissions is gonna be crazy high.
high speed rails are a cool feat..knowing you are travelling at 330km/h+ on the ground and it still feels pretty smooth..i've been on japan and taiwan's shinkansen's and hopefully will get to try some of the ones in europe.
edit:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuSrLvCVoVk&feature=related
imagine a head on collision = 1,200 km/h!
slammer111
04-10-2010, 03:45 PM
^ I can't think of a single western company that has outsourced their production to China ending up getting slammed for the quality. Companies over here take a lot of precautions and abide a lot of standards and codes, and they would of course have quality assurance at the end of the assembly line..
What!? This has happened MANY times.
I can think of 2 examples off the top of my head.
a) Mercedes-Benz CD changers. Same design, same model number. Manufacturing was split between Europe (mostly Hungary if I remember correctly), and China. Guess which ones died repeatedly. Talked to my friend who works for MB in Shenzhen, and he said at the moment that so far the only parts actually being manufactured in China for the Chinese market are trim pieces and the "lower level" electronics. Everything else is still being imported.
b) FAO Schartz, makers of those premium Teddy Bears. Can't find the article right now (it was on either CNN or Time) but basically the Chinese couldn't make 'em right. The problem is that if the eyes of the bears are even off by 1mm, the face either looks lopsided or "not cute" anymore. Customers were noticing and they were losing sales. Not sure if they ended up pulling out at the end though.
orange7
04-10-2010, 04:23 PM
imagine you trying to bang a girl while the train is accelerating!
El Bastardo
04-10-2010, 11:41 PM
skytrain failed comparing with that train
So you're comparing 25 year old light-rail metro transit with a commuter train?
Yes. I'm sure the Skytrain engineers are kicking themselves for not looking into the future to compete with technology two and a half decades away.
orange7
04-10-2010, 11:53 PM
^
on a side note, I don't think the engineers were trying to make it go 500km/h
danned
04-11-2010, 10:14 PM
So you're comparing 25 year old light-rail metro transit with a commuter train?
Yes. I'm sure the Skytrain engineers are kicking themselves for not looking into the future to compete with technology two and a half decades away.
there is no way we can compare that 2 togather
1 is old 1 is like made in china(crack in anytime soon)
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