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StylinRed
04-10-2010, 04:44 AM
132 Aboard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXR33EFM9-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nucwf6DvpG4


Polish President Lech Kaczynski dies in plane crash
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47620000/jpg/_47620859_-71.jpg
Lech Kaczynski, file image

Footage from the scene shows firefighters at work amid the wreckage

Polish President Lech Kaczynski and scores of others have been killed in a plane crash in Russia.

Polish and Russian officials said no-one had survived after the plane apparently hit trees as it approached Smolensk's airport in thick fog.

Poland's army chief, central bank governor, MPs and leading historians were among more than 80 passengers.

They were flying in from Warsaw to mark 70 years since the Katyn massacre of thousands of Poles by Soviet forces.

The BBC's Adam Easton, in Warsaw, says the crash is a catastrophe for the Polish people.

He says Prime Minister Donald Tusk was reportedly in tears when he was told.

Mr Tusk, who runs the day-to-day business of government, has called an emergency meeting of ministers.

A government spokesman said that according to the constitution there would be an early presidential election, and the speaker of the lower house of parliament, Bronislaw Komorowski, would become acting president.

Pilot error?

The Russian emergencies ministry told Itar-Tass news agency the plane crashed at 1056 Moscow time (0656 GMT).Smolensk regional governor Sergei Antufiev told Russian TV that no-one had survived.

"As it was preparing for landing, the Polish president's aircraft did not make it to the landing strip," he said.

"According to preliminary reports, it got caught up in the tops of trees, fell to the ground and broke up into pieces. There are no survivors in that crash."

Polish Foreign Ministry spokesman Piotr Paszkowski said it could be assumed with "great certainty" that no-one had survived.

"We still cannot fully understand the scope of this tragedy and what it means for us in the future. Nothing like this has ever happened in Poland," Mr Paszkowski said.

Polish TV worker Slawomir Wisniewski said he had seen the crash from his hotel near the airport.

"I saw through the fog, the aeroplane flying very low with the left wing pointing to the ground," he said.

"I heard something being broken and then that thudding sound. Two flashes of fire next to each other."

It is unclear how many people were on board. Polish officials said the delegation was 88-strong, while local officials said 96 people had been killed.

Russian investigators had earlier said there were 132 people on the plane.

Russian media carried claims that the plane's crew were at fault for the crash.

"The pilot was advised to land in Minsk, but decided to land in Smolensk," said Andrei Yevseyenkov, a Smolensk regional government spokesman.

Controversial figure

The president was flying in a Tupolev 154, a Soviet-designed plane that was more than 20 years old.

Our correspondent says there had been calls for Polish leaders to upgrade their planes.

As well as the president and his wife, Maria, a number of senior officials were on the passenger list.

They included the army chief of staff Gen Franciszek Gagor, central bank governor Slawomir Skrzypek and deputy Foreign Minister Andrzej Kremer.

World leaders including Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown offered their condolences to Poland.

Mr Kaczynski, who had fewer powers than the prime minister but had a significant say in foreign policy, was a controversial figure in Polish politics.

He had advocated a right-wing Catholic agenda, opposed rapid free-market reforms and favoured retaining social welfare programmes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8612825.stm

flight path
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47621000/gif/_47621178_kaczynski_russia466x307.gif

Tegra_Devil
04-10-2010, 08:11 AM
just heard.....


shitty

mx100
04-10-2010, 08:11 AM
RIP

woob
04-10-2010, 08:37 AM
RIP

RRxtar
04-10-2010, 08:57 AM
crazy

LsquareD
04-10-2010, 09:13 AM
wow.. RIP

JesseBlue
04-10-2010, 09:15 AM
wow...you don't see news like these much

PavelGTR
04-10-2010, 09:15 AM
RIP to all that were aboard

Devastator
04-10-2010, 09:31 AM
RIP

The_AK
04-10-2010, 09:34 AM
Wow, good luck rebuilding government
RIP
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edit* looking at the list of some of the people on board, shouldn't be that difficult reassigning positions

Lomac
04-10-2010, 09:47 AM
Holy shit...

RIP.

hal0g0dv2
04-10-2010, 09:53 AM
plane crashes never end up good, rip

The_AK
04-10-2010, 10:04 AM
i wonder what the black box will say... unless it mysteriously "gets lost in the fire"
edit* it was found

list of some of the people on board:
Lech Kaczynski -- Polish president
Maria Kaczynska -- The president's wife
Ryszard Kaczorowski -- Poland's last president-in-exile
Aleksander Szczyglo -- head of the National Security Office
Pawel Wypych -- presidential aide
Mariusz Handzlik -- presidential aide
Jerzy Szmajdzinski -- deputy parliament speaker
Andrzej Kremer -- Deputy Foreign Minister
Gen. Franciszek Gagor -- head of the army chief of staff
Andrzej Przewoznik -- minister in charge of WWII memorials
Slawomir Skrzypek -- head of the National Bank of Poland
Janusz Kurtyka -- head of the National Remembrance Institute
Przemyslaw Gosiewski -- lawmaker
Zbigniew Wassermann -- lawmaker
Grzegorz Dolniak -- lawmaker
Janusz Kochanowski -- civil rights commissioner
Bishop Tadeusz Ploski -- army chaplain

FN-2199
04-10-2010, 10:34 AM
Huge catastrophe... Poland must be having an even more rough time right now..

RIP
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boss604
04-10-2010, 11:16 AM
RIP

jimzilla
04-10-2010, 11:37 AM
RIP

shenmecar
04-10-2010, 11:42 AM
So the plane overshot the runway by a mile and burst into flames? I didnt really understand why it crashed.

metal
04-10-2010, 12:11 PM
...It crashed on approach into trees; thats all they know.

HonestTea
04-10-2010, 12:27 PM
Shit...

RIP

CorneringArtist
04-10-2010, 12:31 PM
RIP, already saw some reaction from a couple of my Polish friends on Facebook.

Greenstoner
04-10-2010, 12:44 PM
Wow, u would think a plane with president on it would be safe
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BlacknJean
04-10-2010, 12:45 PM
Oh wow, RIP.

tofu1413
04-10-2010, 01:04 PM
yikes.. thats alot of important people onboard.

124Y
04-10-2010, 01:41 PM
RIP...

Kim Jong Un
04-10-2010, 01:49 PM
R.I.P.

ate.ge
04-10-2010, 02:51 PM
Wow, good luck rebuilding government
RIP
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edit* looking at the list of some of the people on board, shouldn't be that difficult reassigning positions

would be difficult if it happened to canada.. =3=
im sure not them though..

RIP

tonyvu
04-10-2010, 02:52 PM
RIP....

fishing666
04-10-2010, 03:02 PM
i wanna read about conspiracy stories. those are my favourite.

StylinRed
04-10-2010, 03:05 PM
Well there was going to be an election this year too


and its said this guy hates Russia (bbc) they hinted that conspiracies would be about Russia doing it

Not really racist!
04-10-2010, 03:24 PM
man this is gonna take a while for the polish to get over

mb_
04-10-2010, 03:42 PM
RIP

I read that it was the 4th time the pilot tried to land the plane due to missed approaches. Not sure where I read that

StylinRed
04-10-2010, 04:13 PM
BBC just said that there was thick fog, and air traffic controllers told them not to land

but they attempted a landing anyway, witnesses/evidence shows a trail of treetops being clipped by the plane before the crash


Putin has taken over the investigation and is sending the bodies, black boxes to Moscow

orange7
04-10-2010, 04:28 PM
time to invade poland?

Meowjin
04-10-2010, 04:51 PM
kinda offtopic but poland has one of the best secret services ever

turb0fr3ak
04-10-2010, 05:09 PM
Odpoczynek w pokoju

no_clue
04-10-2010, 05:37 PM
RIP to the polish president and government but lol @ tupolev planes.
They are the biggest POS, I rode one with aeroflot from London to Moscow once, and the build quality is the worst, the carry-on luggage compartment sprung opened during take-off, thought I was gonna die.

BaoXu
04-10-2010, 05:40 PM
kinda offtopic but poland has one of the best secret services ever

it must be so secret that I have not heard of it.

Meowjin
04-10-2010, 05:44 PM
it must be so secret that I have not heard of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Simoom

some of it's recent work.

wwII was probably won just becuase of the polish secret service.

Porschedog
04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
dang.. poland is gunna haf a tough time dealing wit this

StylinRed
04-10-2010, 06:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Simoom

some of it's recent work.

wwII was probably won just becuase of the polish secret service.

meh


Norways sinking of Germanys heavy water ship probably won the war too or else Germany would have had their Nukes

Meowjin
04-10-2010, 06:31 PM
meh


Norways sinking of Germanys heavy water ship probably won the war too or else Germany would have had their Nukes

which was based off polish intelligence.

pick up citizens of london. has a whole chapter on polish intel.

1exotic
04-10-2010, 06:47 PM
.

not funny faggot, i hope you and your family die in a plane crash.



time to invade poland?

time to invade your house and rape/murder all your whole family faggot?

nack
04-10-2010, 06:54 PM
not funny faggot, i hope you and your family die in a plane crash.





time to invade your house and rape/murder all your whole family faggot?

http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2008/7/15/saupload_calvinhobbscalmdown.jpg

keitaro
04-10-2010, 06:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Simoom

some of it's recent work.

wwII was probably won just becuase of the polish secret service.

Operation Simoom would make a good movie.

CorneringArtist
04-10-2010, 08:12 PM
Check the end of the wiki. There's a movie in Polish about it.

murd0c
04-10-2010, 08:25 PM
That's so horrible to see things like this. My heart goes out to Poland and all the family's that will be affected, I wouldn't wish this on any country.

R.I.P

DC5-S
04-10-2010, 09:03 PM
damn.. thats a lot of important people gone! RIP

hchang
04-10-2010, 09:32 PM
Wow... that sucks.

RIP

Seems like a lot of bad stuff's been happening around East Europe.

danned
04-10-2010, 10:41 PM
poor president
if you are destined to die, you can't fade that the death

ae101
04-10-2010, 11:04 PM
ok if your thinking about russia, all i can tell u is no there not that stupid cuz no one in the world would let someone else f**k their wife, so russia would not do this to screw themselves over

& heres a fun fact, Jarosław Kaczyński is the presidents identical twin brother how weird is that

Evolutionian
04-10-2010, 11:08 PM
RIP.. :(

1exotic
04-10-2010, 11:09 PM
ok if your thinking about russia, all i can tell u is no there not that stupid cuz no one in the world would let someone else f**k their wife, so russia would not do this to screw themselves over

& heres a fun fact, Jarosław Kaczyński is the presidents identical twin brother how weird is that

the fuck are you talking about?

Volvoman
04-11-2010, 12:01 AM
this is why important goverment officials should ride in seprate rides. If one plane crashes with the president, the vice president in the other plane isn't dead with him.

Isn't this how Obama and Biden roll?

ra1nn
04-12-2010, 01:24 AM
rip

Great68
04-12-2010, 07:04 AM
They'll be fine, the president is largely just a symbollic figurehead. It's the prime minister who really runs the country.

hotjoint
04-12-2010, 07:12 AM
heard about it on the radio on the way to work this morning RIP

Tapioca
04-12-2010, 09:46 AM
Doug Saunders, the Globe and Mail's European correspondent, has a written a good article that talks about how the crash fits in with Poland's history and what it means for its politics:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/a-dramatic-end-to-a-divided-era-in-modern-polands-history/article1530957/

Mananetwork
04-18-2010, 11:57 AM
Poland in Mourning

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/poland_04_12/p01_22974423.jpg

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/poland_in_mourning.html

StylinRed
04-18-2010, 12:43 PM
boston globe always has great pics

sleazyho
04-18-2010, 03:29 PM
that is shitty. RIP.

jeff_alexander
04-19-2010, 08:35 PM
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/ca/Polandlolyes.jpg

PavelGTR
04-19-2010, 08:49 PM
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/ca/Polandlolyes.jpg

You're back already you faggot?