[St00k]

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2010/04/report-mclaren-boss-calls-bugatti-veyron-a-complete-piece-of-junk.html

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/GRAND_SPORT_lo-res_05.jpg

Ron Dennis, the man in charge of McLaren Automotive, recently slammed the Bugatti Veyron calling it “a complete piece of junk.” McLaren, for those who don’t know, held the record for the world’s fastest production car with the McLaren F1 from 1992 until the launch of the Bugatti Veyron in 2005. The McLaren managed 243-mph in the F1, which was topped by 10 mph by the Veyron. McLaren has also just released a new model, the MP4-12C, which is designed more as a true exotic than an all-out supercar.

Dennis wouldn’t be the first person to attack the looks of the Veyron, calling it “pig ugly,” but his criticism is more than just aesthetic. In an interview with Arabian Business, he said the car “doesn’t go around corners,” and even spoke frankly about an unnamed (cough, Top Gear, cough) BBC program in which the two cars drag raced each other in Abu Dhabi. The shootout had to be rigged says Dennis to make the Veyron look as fast as it does. “We had to do that whole thing about ten times before it [the Veyron] managed to get off the line cleanly and catch us up. Because every time they dropped the clutch it bogged down and we were gone.”

[bloodmack]

I dont know, im thinking McLaren is mad.. Prove it with a faster car dont start calling someone elses hard work junk, especially when they themselves know how much it takes to make a car like the veyron.

[shenmecar]

http://www.big-t-shirts.com/ProdImages/big/792.jpg

[Kim Jong Un]

:drama::gtfo:

[Z3guy]

we all know the Bugatti is fast...but hard to argue Ron's comments about styling, handling, and launches.......

[1exotic]

Yeah because a car that weighs 4,162 pounds and does 0-60 in 2.4/2.5 seconds is crap. This car wasn't built for handling but the extreme speed, so the buster ass bitch can keep spitting his do cus no bo care about a ho.

[Z3guy]

I wonder why Formula 1 racing is more popular than drag racing?

[StylinRed]

he said it in an interview with an arab magazine... obviously he's just building interest for the mp4-12c they're competition again after all

[97ITR]

he said it in an interview with an arab magazine... obviously he's just building interest for the mp4-12c they're competition again after all

Well not really competition. The mp4-12c is a super car while the Veyron is a hyper car.

[skyxx]

The Veyron is not a car, it's a house.

[TOS'd]

The Veyron is not a car, it's a house.

Not a very good house. I rather have an old school VW van, much cheaper and has way more room. :lol

[Great68]

I wonder why Formula 1 racing is more popular than drag racing?

Depends on where you go...

[tonyvu]

ionno about you guys but to me the veyron only would've won if they had a long straight away like that. lets say a veyron and a mclaren were to drag at a street light the mclaren would win hands down, but the veyron would win in the long run, but thats to say if they have enough roads.

[penner2k]

ionno about you guys but to me the veyron only would've won if they had a long straight away like that. lets say a veyron and a mclaren were to drag at a street light the mclaren would win hands down, but the veyron would win in the long run, but thats to say if they have enough roads.

Wasnt it Top Gear that said that if the McLaren passed the Veyron at 200 km/h the Veyron would still beat it to 200 mph

[InvisibleSoul]

I'll still take the McLaren F1 any day.

[tamazoid]

I'll take the Mclaren F1 still too! My favorite car! Well I'm pretty sure it's still the fastest naturally aspirated car in the world. And it should be worth more too.

[flagella]

I'd take F1 any day over Veyron.

[Rich Sandor]

McLaren F1 > Veyron

I must say I'm a bit disappointed with the MP4-12C.

[Adrenaline Rush]

ionno about you guys but to me the veyron only would've won if they had a long straight away like that. lets say a veyron and a mclaren were to drag at a street light the mclaren would win hands down, but the veyron would win in the long run, but thats to say if they have enough roads.

I think it's actually the other way round - Top Gear didn't even launch the Bugatti hard off the line and made the race closer than it really should have been. All the tests I've seen show the Veyron to be a mid 10 second car in the 1/4 mile and mid to high 2's for 0-60. The F1 was a low 3 second 0-60 car with a 1/4 mile time in the low 11's.

[asian_XL]

LOL...Rs is no different from Ron Dennis.

Type R B18C is the best...Ford Mustang is a piece of junk.

[LowTEC]

McLaren F1 > Veyron any century! From central driving position to extensive weight saving design. And I don't even want to start on the appearance differences of the two :lol

[JordanLee]

http://img.youtube.com/vi/nKdIKP1arF0/0.jpg

"It's a piece of junk..."

[HonestTea]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlMNJp0FQjc

[LiquidTurbo]

Man, the F1 was on my wall when I was growing up. You can't beat it.

I'l gladly sacrifice the 10mph.

http://www.allfastcars.com/cars/mclarenf1side.jpg

[TOS'd]

Mmmm F1, reminds me of NFS II

[hal0g0dv2]

that vid was sick

[bloodmack]

I'll take a Ferrari 399GTB
http://www.royal-auto.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/hamann-ferrari-599-gtb-fior.jpg

[FeistyBearH22a]

^ not in the same league.

[q0192837465]

well, the Veyron IS ugly

[Great68]

The Veyron is built for poseurs. People that want to be able to brag that they have the fastest production car in the world, which produces 1000horsepower, and all in total luxury.

The McLaren F1 is built for true drivers.

[ericthehalfbee]

^ F1 may be built for performance, but it doesn't change the fact that most of them were sold to "poseurs" who have no idea how to drive them.

So instead of bragging their car has 1,000HP they brag they have the best "pure sports car" ever made.

Same shit, different pile.


BTW, head of VAG when Veyron was being developed owns an Enzo, and was also famous for wrecking an F1 on the Autobahn back when he worked at BMW.

[LiquidTurbo]

I'll take a Ferrari 399GTB
http://www.royal-auto.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/hamann-ferrari-599-gtb-fior.jpg

That's a Ferrari Hamann 599.

[LiquidTurbo]

.

[bloodmack]

That's a Ferrari Hamann 599 GTB Fiorano.. not stock at all. Oh, and different class of car.

:stupid: I'll accept the fails, Still it looks better than both the mclaren and veyron.
How about SV LP 670, FXX, koenigsegg ccx, Ford GT40 with TT kit produces 1000HP.

[Pt20]

:stupid: I'll accept the fails, Still it looks better than both the mclaren and veyron.
How about SV LP 670, FXX, koenigsegg ccx, Ford GT40 with TT kit produces 1000HP.

We're talking all aspects of the car. If you're only talking HP, why not just throw in a jacked up Supra to your list.

[maxx]

BMW M power in that Mclaren ;)


id take the bugatti though, two different cars. Bugatti doesnt even break sweat when doing 250 mph

[bloodmack]

We're talking all aspects of the car. If you're only talking HP, why not just throw in a jacked up Supra to your list.

Well the veyron is just HP, its fast thats about as good as it gets with a veyron, CCX FXX LP670 SV all have track feel to them GT40 TT could be to, a Supra with 1000 HP isnt exactly a track car ethier (unless your refering to drags).

[death_blossom]

I can't recall the numbers on the McClaren F1, but isn't the gearing of the top gear (5th or 6th) really loooong so it can achieve the 240mph? or is the gearing all fairly balanced?

[twitchyzero]

MP4-12C's rear is so ugly..so really they dont have a right to bash on the fugly bugatti
whats with the snout exhaust?
http://img2.netcarshow.com/McLaren-MP4-12C_2011_1024x768_wallpaper_07.jpg

[TypeRNammer]

The Mclaren F1 would be a great daily driver, enough seating for your wife and kid and still have space for side luggages and groceries!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tHxMJsjMYw

here's a vid of a Mclaren F1 race spec converted back into street spec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Azl-drqMk

and a old review on the F1

[Adrenaline Rush]

I can't recall the numbers on the McClaren F1, but isn't the gearing of the top gear (5th or 6th) really loooong so it can achieve the 240mph? or is the gearing all fairly balanced?

I think the F1 tops out at a redline limited low 230 mph. The 241 was reached with limiter removed.