[hchang]

Might be a long shot posting on Revscene but its worth a shot.

I absolutely need a voice recorder by tomorrow morning as I'm headed down to Spokane Washington tomorrow first thing tomorrow morning.

The ones on Craigslist are not able to be picked up tonight, which puts me back to square one. And yes I know I'm retarded for procrastinating.

If you have one for sale please pm me or post here and I will be in contact with you. Will be able to pickup tonight at anytime.

Thanks so much!

[TOS'd]

Oh my god....

You are going to that meeting shit.

OMG you were talking about Perfect Water.

OMG your friend gave you a FREE bottle of it.


OMFG you are going to get suckered into that damn cult of a business scam.



OMMFGGG you are going as his +1

This is to suck you into it, and lock you in for life. Did he tell you there is no way out of this? And if there was he was lying.


you are a :noob:

[skyxx]

Why don't you buy one and return it after wards?

[hchang]

LOL @ TOS.

Yeah I am skeptical about this business venture, but however I think it is something worth checking out. If it turns out to be something hilarious I'll be back tomorrow night.


Why don't you buy one and return it after wards?

But it'd be out of the package and they wouldn't refund them, right?

[skyxx]

^ No, You can still return it. Go to futureshop. it's an asshole move but it works. :)

[hchang]

Seriously?

Even if its out of the package?

Future Shop Lansdowne here I come!

[Chairman Kaga]

But it'd be out of the package and they wouldn't refund them, right?

Well its kinda late now cause places like Best Buy and Futureshop are closed now.

Your only bet is probably a place like Zellers and London Drugs (if they're even open)

[skyxx]

Why not? Just fucking go to Futureshop/bestbuy now. You can ask them that question when you're there.

Nope, futureshop closes at 10 i believe.

[hchang]

Well its kinda late now cause places like Best Buy and Futureshop are closed now.

Your only bet is probably a place like Zellers and London Drugs (if they're even open)

Yeah you're right.

Monday - Friday : 10 am - 9 pm
Saturday : 10 am - 9 pm
Sunday : 11 am - 6 pm

FUCK!

[TOS'd]

Imma leave you with some advice that you will thank me for in the future.

DO NOT JOIN THIS. NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY TO YOU AND WHAT THEY PROMISE YOU, DO NOT JOIN.


doesnt matter if its out of package or not, just put it back in the package and return the item. especially places likes bestbuy.




btw hchang, are you just going as a +1 with your friend? or have you talked to a recruiter and they invited you.

[Chairman Kaga]

Future Shop Lansdowne here I come!

Closed @ 9

[raygunpk]

i have one. since you need it in such short notice, the price is $9000.

[skyxx]

Wow, richmond BBY/FS close so early. I believe some in Van close at 10.

Seriously, if you have a decent phone. use the phone's voice recorder.

[hchang]

Imma leave you with some advice that you will thank me for in the future.

DO NOT JOIN THIS. NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY TO YOU AND WHAT THEY PROMISE YOU, DO NOT JOIN.


btw hchang, are you just going as a +1 with your friend? or have you talked to a recruiter and they invited you.

I think it's worth checking out. My buddy's been in it for about 6 months now, and I've noticed a great increase of him becoming a lot more mature, and does seem to be doing better financially.

I've already cautioned myself when he first got it and I kept on telling him its a pyramid scheme LOL.

I've talked to a recruiter and was invited.

How do you know about this meeting thing?




Seriously, if you have a decent phone. use the phone's voice recorder.
I have a Samsung BlackJack II, pretty good voice recorder, but however, I was told not to use those as it distracts the speaker.

[Culture_Vulture]

LOL @ TOS.

Yeah I am skeptical about this business venture, but however I think it is something worth checking out. If it turns out to be something hilarious I'll be back tomorrow night.



no it's not.

[hchang]

LOL WTF.

Have all of you gone through with this or came across this or something?

[raygunpk]

i'm gunna go with DON'T DO IT MAN

[TOS'd]

I think it's worth checking out. My buddy's been in it for about 6 months now, and I've noticed a great increase of him becoming a lot more mature, and does seem to be doing better financially.

I've already cautioned myself when he first got it and I kept on telling him its a pyramid scheme LOL.

I've talked to a recruiter and was invited.

How do you know about this meeting thing?


whats your buddys initials?

i went to a meeting to support my friend, he actually didnt tell us what it was and basically lied to us taht it was something totally different to get us to go.

listened to some bs speech, then the presenter arranged 1 on 1 meetings with most of the guest, and i wasnt going to do it but hes got my number from one of my sellout friends. so i met him to talk about it, and jsut went with his bs and rejected. then he offered a free all expenses paid trip to portland for this big gathering of IMPORTANT people! giving some motivational speech and shit.

sure you will be making extra income, which i have noticed also, but for you to be making the 6+ digits they promise you any time soon, you have got to be kidding yourself. sure, you and all the other suckers will all be making 6+ in no time.

[sunny_j]

Oh my god....

You are going to that meeting shit.

OMG you were talking about Perfect Water.

OMG your friend gave you a FREE bottle of it.


OMFG you are going to get suckered into that damn cult of a business scam.



OMMFGGG you are going as his +1

This is to suck you into it, and lock you in for life. Did he tell you there is no way out of this? And if there was he was lying.


you are a :noob:

what meeting?

[Chairman Kaga]

Pyramid schemes ftl

I had a guy I went to school with start calling me about those. I ended up blocking his number now cause he'd keep on calling me to go check out these meetings.

[Culture_Vulture]

I think it's worth checking out. My buddy's been in it for about 6 months now, and I've noticed a great increase of him becoming a lot more mature, and does seem to be doing better financially.

I've already cautioned myself when he first got it and I kept on telling him its a pyramid scheme LOL.

I've talked to a recruiter and was invited.

How do you know about this meeting thing?



I have a Samsung BlackJack II, pretty good voice recorder, but however, I was told not to use those as it distracts the speaker.
It's an all or nothing job. Comparable to selling RESPs or Life Insurance.
Actually no. People will always want to buy RESPs and Life Insurance. And you need a fucking license to sell. Any bozo can sell me something I can get from my fucking toilet if I had to. My dog does that and he gets along fine, I'm sure I don't need to break a bill just to get something I can turn on the tap for.

If you think this is just going to be some easy dough then you've obviously been misinformed. The amount of time and effort required per week to be actually successful with this type of thing compares to getting a full time job in the retail sector. And this does not include weekly/monthly seminars which are "in your best interest" to attend. Of course, whether or not you'll become successful after the input of time and effort is a whole other story.

[Culture_Vulture]

Pyramid schemes ftl

I had a guy I went to school with start calling me about those. I ended up blocking his number now cause he'd keep on calling me to go check out these meetings.
Me too. Perfect Water, MonaVie, 97% of college summer internships. They're all full of shit.

[TOS'd]

^ exactly.

the way they get you is they say you only need to spend a couple hrs a week doing this job, which is total bull. you need to attend a meeting almost every week. its "in your best interest" to read the books on how to be successful at it, WHICH they will begin by lending them to you free of charge, but since you need to read volumes and volumes and there are even CDs with info, they eventually cut you off and tell you to buy them to learn from. Which coincidentally the recruiter also sells. This is how they make money, by charging people for these self help books.

[raygunpk]

DAMMIT CULTURE what's with the avatar

[TheKingdom2000]

when i had to reformat my computer i went to FS and bought a 500GB ext. hard drive.. formatted teh computer and a week later returned it... it's FS, they don't care...

on another note.. what are you going down for?

is it the company that sells that perfect water/ vitamins / excess energy drink?
if so, there's nothing wrong with that company.

My uncle and aunt sell that garbage. it's just a pyramid business. ie. if you sell something the person above you, called the upline gets money.. so what you want to have is a down line, people you refer.

they do seem to sell a number of products to a number of friends/colleagues though and its just a side business thing for them...

imo, most of it is overpriced garbage... Perfect Water, lol are you kidding me...I've tried it btw... felt like superman...not
and for some reason, they actually believe it's the greatest water in the world and they think it helps you actually jump higher... I don't know how they got them to think this way which is effed because they're not dumb people..

ps.. if it is the same thing.. why are you going all the way down to washington for? they have local meetings/recruiting sessions here..

[hchang]

Yeah I understand I wouldn't be making 6 figures in no time, but I sure wouldn't mind having a little extra spending money in my pocket at the end of every month.

I thought it was ridiculous too, and researching it sure didn't help. All it came up with is "This is a horrible business venture... blah blah blah" But to support him I guess I'll take the time out, and if he's able to make it work personally, I wouldn't mind checking it out.

[Teh Doucher]

fucking pyramid schemes... one of my friendships was ended because of that monavie juice, no lies, women just do not understand.

[Ride]

Walmart on grandview hwy closes at 11pm.

[TOS'd]

ps.. if it is the same thing.. why are you going all the way down to washington for? they have local meetings/recruiting sessions here..

yes they do have those up here. but this one in washington is a bigger meeting, where ZOMG ImpoRTANT company ppl with be there to tell you all about their great plan. something about "top 25" sellers of this region get invited to go down there. heres the catch, you dont have to be top 25 to be invited. =O

[hchang]

Walmart on grandview hwy closes at 11pm.

Won't be able to make it on time.

Does anybody know of any other stores?

[Culture_Vulture]

My uncle and aunt sell that garbage. it's just a pyramid business. ie. if you sell something the person above you, called the upline gets money.. so what you want to have is a down line, people you refer.

they do seem to sell a number of products to a number of friends/colleagues though and its just a side business thing for them...

imo, most of it is overpriced garbage... Perfect Water, lol are you kidding me...I've tried it btw... felt like superman...not
and for some reason, they actually believe it's the greatest water in the world and they think it helps you actually jump higher... I don't know how they got them to think this way which is effed because they're not dumb people..

It's called clever marketing. They make this company out to be a very exclusive "invite only" membership, thereby increasing the value of their products. When in fact, anybody can join and anybody can become one of their sales representatives--why not? Sales reps are paid by their productivity, and most of these companies charge membership fees to weed out those who are incapable of selling their products.

Yeah I understand I wouldn't be making 6 figures in no time, but I sure wouldn't mind having a little extra spending money in my pocket at the end of every month.

I thought it was ridiculous too, and researching it sure didn't help. All it came up with is "This is a horrible business venture... blah blah blah" But to support him I guess I'll take the time out, and if he's able to make it work personally, I wouldn't mind checking it out.

Don't expect to be "helping" a colleague out in this type of a business. And don't expect anybody to help you out either. In this field, you have to earn everything for yourself. You'll only be getting paid if your sales rep ID ends up on the clients' agreement form.
Oh, and he gets a bonus for recruiting--and a bonus for your productivity if he recruited you directly.

[Culture_Vulture]

DAMMIT CULTURE what's with the avatar
you like? ;)
I recently picked up a pair of CK tighties and they're oh, so comfortable. Sears is having a promo, you should jet down there immediately.

[1exotic]

Won't be able to make it on time.

Does anybody know of any other stores?



East Hastings... 24/7

Should cost you about $5 for a good one.

[Culture_Vulture]

DAMMIT CULTURE what's with the avatar
Actually, I should be asking YOU what the fuck's up with TOS'd' avatar.
Do you two have something going on that I should know about? Cuz I'd really like to get a piece of whatever that action in his avatar is.

[raygunpk]

i can draw you one too, taking requests via pm

[hchang]

East Hastings... 24/7

Should cost you about $5 for a good one.

Fail me for this post... but... how do you purchase something there?

[Qmx323]

Might be a long shot posting on Revscene but its worth a shot.

I absolutely need a voice recorder by tomorrow morning as I'm headed down to Spokane Washington tomorrow first thing tomorrow morning.

The ones on Craigslist are not able to be picked up tonight, which puts me back to square one. And yes I know I'm retarded for procrastinating.

If you have one for sale please pm me or post here and I will be in contact with you. Will be able to pickup tonight at anytime.

Thanks so much!

Friend of mine invited me out to lunch with his GF (already kinda suspicious because I hardly talk to this dude)

Turned out he brought his whole fucking package of information about his "pyramid scheme company" idea, needless to say I feel hurt that he did this to me.

This kind of shit is the stuff that really can piss off your friends because essentially you're hocking overpriced crap to your friends & family, but if you really do treat it as a full time job, of course there will be money.

Just like every other full time job. Just my two cents.

[Culture_Vulture]

i can draw you one too, taking requests via pm

No thanks.
I like Andrew Stetson's body. And his toilet paper stuffed tights.

[TOS'd]

Actually, I should be asking YOU what the fuck's up with TOS'd' avatar.
Do you two have something going on that I should know about? Cuz I'd really like to get a piece of whatever that action in his avatar is.

:lol

[Ride]

we'll if your heading to Spokane aren't u passing by the Walmart supercenter in Tulalip there open 24hrs.

[raygunpk]

No thanks.
I like Andrew Stetson's body. And his toilet paper stuffed tights.

what now culture, what now (tosd avatar)

[TOS'd]

how early do you leave in the morning to get down there, hchang?

[Culture_Vulture]

Now it looks like Stetson stuffed his jams with rocks. Reminds me of a porno I watched with a retarded guy with a massive package. He had a silly moan.

[raygunpk]

Now it looks like Stetson stuffed his jams with rocks. Reminds me of a porno I watched with a retarded guy with a massive package. He had a silly moan.

hey so you were that one guy who rented my movie! thanks dawwwg

[hchang]

we'll if your heading to Spokane aren't u passing by the Walmart supercenter in Tulalip there open 24hrs.

Yeah I think that's what I'm going to end up doing, stop by a walmart or something on the way there.

how early do you leave in the morning to get down there, hchang?

Leaving home at 5 am.

[raygunpk]

you still considering it hchang?

[TOS'd]

^^ you didnt tell me your friends initials.

[hchang]

you still considering it hchang?

Yeah... just annoyed at the fact that I have to hit the road at 5.


^^ you didnt tell me your friends initials.

My bad.

R.Y.

[raygunpk]

they have a lot of these seminars locally...why not see what they're about over here before making a long trip

[hchang]

they have a lot of these seminars locally...why not see what they're about over here before making a long trip

Cause apparently its 'not the same experience'

I call bs... but I trust this dude... so I'll believe him on this one.

[skyxx]

^ You'll regret it. Regret the fact you drove down there. Regret the fact you trusted your friend. Regret the fact you woke up early to do it. Anyway, I won't say much. You'll only believe us once you see what's up. :)

[raygunpk]

well hope you don't waste your time...go shopping or somethin too

[skyxx]

^ Yeah and don't bother hitting up Washington Strip clubs. They suck.

[Greenstoner]

why dont you buy one in the state? fuck, it will be cheaper too since our dollar is good

pretty sure there is bestbuy in the state lol

[truth]

Fail me for this post... but... how do you purchase something there?

no offense, but you SEEM gullible, which makes you a perfect target. if it's too good to be true, it probably is.

[Culture_Vulture]

Sorry, but I win this time.

[TOS'd]

^ ZOmggggg

EDIT: interesting.......



Save your time, save your money.

This is like one of those refer 10 friends and get a free $10 gift card. Your friend isn't here to help you earn money, he's here to get you into the system and help him get money through referals. Although the recruiter will probably claim you as his own, which will help him with his bonus. This type of business is a FFA, you fight for customers in order to make a profit. You consistantly need around 5 RETURNING customers every month inorder to make ANY money. That's 5 dumbasses buying over priced water and other over priced items.

Ex. Perfect water is like $54 for a 24 case. $2.25/bottle. For water..

[Culture_Vulture]

:gayfight:

[TOS'd]

:gayfight:


@hchang get out while you can, they will try to brainwash you.

[1exotic]

I have no fucking idea what the posts above mine are about, I'm confused as shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWwyqL15_H4&feature=related


Fail me for this post... but... how do you purchase something there?

Simple dude.

Do you have a black hoody? and black shades? just wear that... Stand on the sidewalk almost anywhere along the homeless part on East Hastings. Have a sign saying "looking for digital voice recorder"... usually takes 5-10 minutes before someone approaches you... If no one comes to you, asks a few people around and you'll be buying one anywhere between $2-20 for sure.

[raygunpk]

what are u homos doing

[skyxx]

^ agreed. :lol

[hchang]

^ You'll regret it. Regret the fact you drove down there. Regret the fact you trusted your friend. Regret the fact you woke up early to do it. Anyway, I won't say much. You'll only believe us once you see what's up. :)

Thanks... I'll let you know my final verdict when I get back.

And I guess I'll just not sleep tonight. It's only like 4 hours away.

well hope you don't waste your time...go shopping or somethin too

Yeah I'm planning on buying a lot of car supplies while I'm down there, and will stop by a few malls to shop.

[roastpuff]

Hey hchang, sent you a PM. I've got one I can lend you.

Also, good luck with the talk... be skeptical. Don't be misled by the $$ signs in your eyes.

[Ronin]

You people need to upgrade from your Nokia 3390s.

All modern phones have some form of voice recording...

P.S.: THIS WATER BULLSHIT IS A PYRAMID SCHEME.

I have a dumbass friend that always falls for this shit and always tries to get my friends and I to join him. If you've ever seen the episode of The Office where Michael tries to get people to join his pyramid scheme and tries to convince people it isn't...and then Jim draws lines between the dots to reveal...a pyramid...that shit literally happened with my friends and I a few years back

[Ch28]

I subscribed to this thread just so I can read your rant when you get back :)

[Gh0stRider]

lol kev.
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)

[moomooCow]

You people need to upgrade from your Nokia 3390s.

All modern phones have some form of voice recording...

P.S.: THIS WATER BULLSHIT IS A PYRAMID SCHEME.

I have a dumbass friend that always falls for this shit and always tries to get my friends and I to join him. If you've ever seen the episode of The Office where Michael tries to get people to join his pyramid scheme and tries to convince people it isn't...and then Jim draws lines between the dots to reveal...a pyramid...that shit literally happened with my friends and I a few years back

fucking loved that part hahahahah

Link to episode: http://www.fanpop.com/spots/the-office/videos/25051/title/office-season-2-episode-19

Just watch the first mins hahahahah

[Ronin]

AT FIRST I WAS LIKE: "HAY GUISE..I'm gonna make a lot of money with this water thing down in Spokane!" :bigthumb:

THEN I WAS LIKE: :fuuuuu:

[7seven]

Joining shit like Perfect Water, World Financial Group, etc.. can only do more harm than good. Slim chance you might make a couple extra dollars but you are going to look like a complete idiot and joke to all your friends, family members or anyone with common sense.

Anyone who joins crap like this shows me that they are gullible, desperate, retarded and has either no skillset or are too lazy to obtain a real career/job. I review a lot of resumes at work and any resume I see with crap like this on it, I crumple up and toss.

[Liquid_o2]

I remember when I was going to college, this guy I went to high school with kept bugging me and my friends about joining (can't remember which group it was). A recruiter came to Kwantlen to meet specifically with us, and actually said "I had to get a babysitter for today just to meet with you, so hopefully you are serious about this". Yah nice try, a guilt trip. Fuck you.

The guy ended up dropping out of university to further pursue his pyramid schemes. What an idiot.

[!e.lo_]

fucking pyramid schemes... one of my friendships was ended because of that monavie juice, no lies, women just do not understand.

i hear ya.
one of my friendships is going down the drain because of the same shit. woman as well.

one of our mutual friends though, another girl, she was smart enough and said, "wtf is this shit?"

[Gridlock]

A friend of mine got involved with Primerica. Asks me to go to a meeting. I have a pretty open mind, and can smell bullshit, so combined, I can sit there and pull out some nugget of information that may make me think about something new, and not get sucked in by dollar signs.

A lot of the offices are run by morons that just push the shit on you...this guy was different. Quite personable, and actually gave an interesting talk. This is what it is, this is what we do...if you want in, come back on Saturday etc.

But my main issue has and always will be pimping shit to friends and family. I don't want to talk about RRSP's with my friends. So frustrating. Yeah, there are people that are making money with it. Has to for it to exist...but for those people to make money, they need to burn through a crap load of contacts....your contacts.

[Bender Unit]

I would love to read his rant after his trip

bump this

[TOS'd]

Yep, bump. I know the people have gotten back already from this trip. Now we just wait for hchang to chim in. And he can't give any BS couple days later saying he just got back. :lol

[J____]

lol any business venture that requires you to attend a seminar has no potential because all the potential is already absorbed by the person giving the seminar. You guys attending are just there to feed his own benefit while making you think you are getting something out of it.

[impactX]

So where's OP now?

[hchang]

Yep, bump. I know the people have gotten back already from this trip. Now we just wait for hchang to chim in. And he can't give any BS couple days later saying he just got back. :lol

I see you know a few people from this business as well?

Yeah I got back at around 5 in the morning last night.

Anywho... here's my two cents.
Fail away if you must.

The business does seem legit. For sure it isn't one of those companies grabbing your registration fee then running away. If you have the work to put in, there will be money given back.

I went to the event a bit unsure, but any questions I basically have asked somebody to clarify...and imo it all adds up.

LOTS of people who are just first years in this business are already making around $4000-6000 a month, easily. Which really made me think, if they could do it, why can't I?

It's a Pyramid Scheme you say?

So is our government.

The Company makes money off other people.

What company that you know doesn't?

The only negative comment would be that they mentioned that a only 2% of people will be making the millions, but as mentioned above, as long as people are willing to put in the work, there will be residual income coming in.

The concept is that theres a whole line of products that you can buy, and it saves people money. I looked at the prices... although it doesn't seem like it makes you money, I don't see the downside of the fact that whatever you buy from your own website if you are in the business, you will get a certain amount of money back.

Say you buy something from Superstore, all you get back is the product that you bought. Now let's say you bought something from your own store, you get back the product, and also the amount difference in the middle.

Even if this is a "scam", I'm sure the majority of human beings out there would do it if it meant them getting rich.

There's my rant, sorry to disappoint you guys but I'm not against Amway nor for. I have not made my decision whether or not to join.

Anybody feel like expanding on any of the topics? Or add on? Or argue anything?

[impactX]

Say you buy something from Superstore, all you get back is the product that you bought. Now let's say you bought something from your own store, you get back the product, and also the amount difference in the middle.


You are just using your money to buy bottled tap water at a premium (regardless of the little discount (or commission) you get), which costs them almost nothing to produce and little to market. Sounds like a brilliant idea to me.

[hchang]

You are just using your money to buy bottled tap water at a premium (regardless of the little discount (or commission) you get), which costs them almost nothing to produce and little to market. Sounds like a brilliant idea to me.

Except that you not only sell water.

And thanks to whichever mod changed my thread title.

[impactX]

So what else will you be selling? Knives?

It's not a business when you have to sell stuff to yourself.

[hchang]

So what else will you be selling? Knives?

It's not a business when you have to sell stuff to yourself.

You don't "Have to" sell stuff to yourself. But think of it this way.
Say you owned a Chevron. Would you still fill up at a Petro Canada, Husky, Shell or wherever you fill up?
It's completely logical.

Nope there's 450+ exclusive products including edibles, car supplies, plus affiiliate partners like Barnes and Noble, Best Buy and etc. No knives.

[Ch28]

allthatshitbyyou.txt

i'd fail you but your av puts a smile on my face so i won't.

[Manic!]

Perfect water is a part of Amway. Also Smart water from Coke is better because it makes you smarter.

http://www.amquix.info/perfectwater_debunked.html

[Culture_Vulture]

don't join

[jing]

lulz chances are hchang is just reciting back all the BS he was fed

[TOS'd]

Anyone curious what company he is talking about? It's called Amway. Google it and you will find tons of evidence as to why it is not a good idea to join. BUT you will also find MANY MANY sites used as for propaganda which are all fake and have biased views on Amway.

Here is an example of the MILLIONS of sites, EACH person in this business "own". Here you can find over priced goods for all your needs.

http://like.mychoices.biz/pws/home.aspx

Every month you pay some money, i think it was around $100 or so ish cant remember, but that money goes to run the site through a company (not Amway but i forgot the company name). You basically try to get customers to view your website and purchase products from it. You earn a percentage of sales from your website, so the more customers you have, the more money you will make. The only hard part to this is attracting those customers, like I already said there are SO many of these websites all trying to do the same thing all selling relatively the same products. On top of all that, they EXPECT you to attend a weekly meeting and also the large meetings in the states. They also ADVISE you to read all their self help bs books and CDs, which cost an arm and a leg, and you should be reading a new one every week or so.

Anyways.

[hchang]

lulz chances are hchang is just reciting back all the BS he was fed

Yeah... I think I am too.

But however, out of all honesty, it seems reasonable, right?

[Ronin]

You've been brainwashed. They always seem reasonable...like "Oh, I can totally do that...seems easy."

[hchang]

Anyone curious what company he is talking about? It's called Amway. Google it and you will find tons of evidence as to why it is not a good idea to join. BUT you will also find MANY MANY sites used as for propaganda which are all fake and have biased views on Amway.

Here is an example of the MILLIONS of sites, EACH person in this business "own". Here you can find over priced goods for all your needs.

http://like.mychoices.biz/pws/home.aspx

Every month you pay some money, i think it was around $100 or so ish cant remember, but that money goes to run the site through a company (not Amway but i forgot the company name). You basically try to get customers to view your website and purchase products from it. You earn a percentage of sales from your website, so the more customers you have, the more money you will make. The only hard part to this is attracting those customers, like I already said there are SO many of these websites all trying to do the same thing all selling relatively the same products. On top of all that, they EXPECT you to attend a weekly meeting and also the large meetings in the states. They also ADVISE you to read all their self help bs books and CDs, which cost an arm and a leg, and you should be reading a new one every week or so.

Anyways.

WWDB is the company you're referring to.

And it adds up to about $80 per month after tax.

CDS and Books costs roughly $3 to 6 a week.

Meetings are "optional", but yes as you mentioned they "advise" you to attend.

[sleazyho]

Get the fuck out of this shit!
Its nothing but a huge scam, you'll only end up wasting your money and getting none of it back. All the 'meetings' are basically the same but they will charge you $10 every time anyways. They say they make $100,000+ after a couple years from this 'business' but most of those are coming from their 'talks' aka meetings, they barely make shit from actual product sales. Those talks are basically to brainwash you to make you think you can make $$ quick by joining up with them. Its like an evil cult with sleazy motherfucking salesmen. You basically have to devote 24 hours a day into this 'business' and youre not even guaranteed profits after all the work and effort you put in. Dont get too deep into this shit man, get out now while you can, seriously.

[JSALES]

My friend is getting into a similar business like this, it's called Acai Berry, I don't know if any of you guys have heard about it before but it's almost the same thing I guess as trying to sell Perfect Water or whatever product it is. He told me about it and it seems like the exact same shit everyone else said, same stories about making 6 figures and devoting only a few hours a week and whatnot. I call bullshit.

[JKam]

The only people you'll be selling to is your friends and family. You'll also be fucking up all your friendships by trying to get them to join you.

Your friends and family will hate you for trying to sell them stupid shit at stupid prices. You'll also be paying stupid prices for stupid shit because you have to. You buy the bottled water for $2/bottle and you make $.50 from it. Really the water costs you $1.50. Why not just buy it from Costco for $.50/bottle? This applies to all the stupid shit they sell.


btw the only way you REALLY make money is by recruiting people, not selling the shit.

[Noizz]

I think it's worth checking out. My buddy's been in it for about 6 months now, and I've noticed a great increase of him becoming a lot more mature, and does seem to be doing better financially.

Unless you have access to his financial statements, he could be living out of his ass. From my experience, think twice before you make a decision, even if he is your close friend. Don't judge a book by its cover.

Why do you think he is acting more mature? Think about it. Think about who he is associating himself with now. Why is he asking you? Because you're a friend, and using that friend card he has a higher chance of getting you to agree than a random person on the street. Hence making him his referral bonus.

I got tricked into one of these multi-level marketing schemes before. Yeah! Lets go into an empty apartment, sit on chairs in a circle with a bunch of strangers who have all been successful with this awesome way to make money. What did you make this month Bob? Oh wow! How about you Jane? See how easy it is? Really, all you need is to get a baseline going, your family members/friends are a great place to start! Check out this pay stub I have! Its a shitty photocopy but it's the real thing for sure! What was your credit card number again? 5741 57SU CKMY FUCK INGB ALLS.

[JSALES]

I actually have a friend who was so commited to this, he fucking balled his eyes out because everyone thinks he's crazy for doing this since we all think it's not worth it. His goal is to retire by 22 i think and he wants to prove to everyone who doubted him haha

[truth]

GO FOR IT! you're just looking for someone to reassure you right? well look no further!

[threezero]

My friend is getting into a similar business like this, it's called Acai Berry, I don't know if any of you guys have heard about it before but it's almost the same thing I guess as trying to sell Perfect Water or whatever product it is. He told me about it and it seems like the exact same shit everyone else said, same stories about making 6 figures and devoting only a few hours a week and whatnot. I call bullshit.

my frd was into this a while back to. he was a horrible salemen and after 20 sec i could tell this is another pyramid scam.

just wondering do acai berry/mona vie gives out free sample to their "victims" my buddy that was into it gave me a free sample to try and that shit is nasty, i feel bad for him if he had to pay for all that

[JSALES]

my frd was into this a while back to. he was a horrible salemen and after 20 sec i could tell this is another pyramid scam.

just wondering do acai berry/mona vie gives out free sample to their "victims" my buddy that was into it gave me a free sample to try and that shit is nasty, i feel bad for him if he had to pay for all that

yeah i think they do give free samples. My friend ended up buying the case of Acai Berry which is a case of 6 and the size of wine bottles for i think $200 - $300 haha. He takes a "shot" of it every night before he sleeps because supposedly it's good for you and it taste good

[TOS'd]

Lol yea Acai Berry is another one of these scams.

hchang, obviously this is going to sound good/reasonable. If it wasn't the who the hell would fall for such a thing. So naive...

[skyxx]

Guys, let him be. He can do whatever he wants. We told him already, so end of story. Thread closed. :)

[A-Dev]

out of curiosity.. who do you plan to sell water to here in vancouver.

BC has some of the cleanest tap/drinking water in canada, if not the world.
(IE: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=124fa544-d3e5-4f22-9f46-5582acb7e52a&k=32354 )

why pay for water when the best stuff is free.

Don't give me any bullshit either about how this water is enriched with vitamins and nutrients. On a basis of which water is more healthy/better for you. Plain old regular clean nothing added water wins every single time.

[7seven]

hchang, I urge you to read my post again. Nothing good can come from joining Perfect Water or any pyramid scheme. When you future employer/prospective employer finds out, friends and family find out you will look like a complete gullible idiot.

It sounds like you where brain washed, obviously the presentation sounded good, they're trained at selling bs.

edit** oh and your friends that are trying to sell you on this idea, they're no longer your friends, they just see you as a mark/target now. Only way they're making money is by recruiting more idiots into this scheme.

Joining shit like Perfect Water, World Financial Group, etc.. can only do more harm than good. Slim chance you might make a couple extra dollars but you are going to look like a complete idiot and joke to all your friends, family members or anyone with common sense.

Anyone who joins crap like this shows me that they are gullible, desperate, retarded and has either no skillset or are too lazy to obtain a real career/job. I review a lot of resumes at work and any resume I see with crap like this on it, I crumple up and toss.

[FerrariEnzo]

if you have an iPhone you can use that.. very nice recordings..

[quasi]

Say you buy something from Superstore, all you get back is the product that you bought. Now let's say you bought something from your own store, you get back the product, and also the amount difference in the middle.


LOL, this is almost the same line word for word that one of my wifes friends used when he came to our house to show us something we may be interested in, another pyramid scam. It's stuff you're going to buy anyway right?

Such a scam, run don't walk friend.

[shawn79]

Dont even bother checking it out... once you check it out, your mind will already be brainwashed into this pyramid scheme LOL

My buddy had a meeting at his house once, i went to check it out. Holy fuck were they pushing hard to brainwash us. Too bad i was smart enough to tell all my other friends who were going "perfect water busniess entrepreneur" is FULL of bullshit. Anyone who tried perfect water should try drinking piss, if you want to do something amazing. Just ask Lyoto Machida :)

[shawn79]

:troll:

[El Bastardo]

I worked at NCO in Surrey which had a huge open workspace. One of the people who was suckered into one of these scams would go from department to department on his break to try to sell this similar shit. He would approach people he didn't know who were sitting trying to do their job or on lunch and try to get them to buy from him. I had the unfortunate task of banning him from our department (I knew what his reaction would be like) and when he blew his stack he had the nerve to go to the site manager and say I was costing him money.

I pity what his social circle must have had to go through.



Oh, and if you're going to get pitched anything: get pitched timeshares. The free seminar incentives are much better.

[truth]

Anytime you have to pay upfront to stay with a company should ring bells to you. Think about it, with any legit company, they pay for your training, not the other way around. Prepare to lose your friends if you become pushy on them to buy your perfect water.

[vafanculo]

I got suckered once by this dude I met in college. I was like 20 years old probably. Ended up paying $80 for the license and like $25 for a pack of XS energy drink. Lol I think I just ended up drinking them myself.

The final straw was this meeting I attended in a condo just across metrotown. People were telling us how you can make so much money off selling anything you can purchase from their catalogue. When one hick looking dude started talking about selling lobsters of all things I just almost broke out into laughter.

Now that I think back I think only people that fall for these things are young kids straight outta highschool. Last year I had our accountant try and sell my wife and her mom the acai berry speech and I wanted to jump over the table and punch her in the mouth. Instead I texted my girl who was sitting next to me SCAM DONT LISTEN
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[7seven]

I got suckered once by this dude I met in college. I was like 20 years old probably. Ended up paying $80 for the license and like $25 for a pack of XS energy drink. Lol I think I just ended up drinking them myself.

The final straw was this meeting I attended in a condo just across metrotown. People were telling us how you can make so much money off selling anything you can purchase from their catalogue. When one hick looking dude started talking about selling lobsters of all things I just almost broke out into laughter.

Now that I think back I think only people that fall for these things are young kids straight outta highschool. Last year I had our accountant try and sell my wife and her mom the acai berry speech and I wanted to jump over the table and punch her in the mouth. Instead I texted my girl who was sitting next to me SCAM DONT LISTEN
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haha oh god, XS Energy drinks :blueguy: We had an extra on one of our sets trying to hawk this crap to other extras while in the extra holding pen. One of the PAs over heard and mentioned it to me and our producer, I went over and grabbed him by the neck and threw him out and the producer fired him on the spot.

[jnesss]

I actually have a friend who was so commited to this, he fucking balled his eyes out because everyone thinks he's crazy for doing this since we all think it's not worth it. His goal is to retire by 22 i think and he wants to prove to everyone who doubted him haha

true story, mang! a friend asked if i wanted to work for her, saying i could make crazy amounts of money. she was planning on working hard this year and retiring soon afterwards :haha:.

[JSALES]

it's still possible to be successful in this business though right? just very hard. I have a friend whose parents did this thing a while back and they're already retired and they're in their 30's. I don't know if there success was all from this business though

[Manic!]

it's still possible to be successful in this business though right? just very hard. I have a friend whose parents did this thing a while back and they're already retired and they're in their 30's. I don't know if there success was all from this business though

Only if you get in at the very start not when everyone and there moms doing it.

[JSALES]

Only if you get in at the very start not when everyone and there moms doing it.

Yeah I think that's what happened, they started when it was just new

[Yuffa]

Why not be your own Entrepreneur if you are willing to put in the hard work?

Why do you think there are so many different companies doing the same thing? Because there will always be cows like you out there to be milked. Once one name gets too saturated and everyone knows it's a scam.....they'll just start another one selling...uhhh..miracle milk? Damn I much rather be the No.1 guy on the top of MY OWN pyramid.

[freakshow]

I thought it was ridiculous too, and researching it sure didn't help. All it came up with is "This is a horrible business venture... blah blah blah"
HAHAHAHAH.. this is my favourite quote from the whole thread!!

[mikemhg]

It's a scam. My buddy tried to get me into that Monavi shit, the Acai Juice.

He preasured hard to join his pyramid, needless to say, we are not friends any longer since I didn't want to hear his bullshit.

You will be trying to sell this crap to friends and family and to get them to join, like someone else said, it's a great way to lose friends :)

[mrclean604]

sucked.....in

[El Bastardo]

This isn't my department but I swear to god that if I see a thread for any of this shit in Revscene Buy & Sell I'll IP ban the seller

[Yuffa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGPG91x5eMY&feature=player_embedded#at=93

[Great68]

This sounds like the USANA Vitamin bullshit my aunt tried to get me into, only with a product that costs even LESS to produce.

[AzNightmare]

I think OP should try to start his own pyramid scam. That way he can acutally
make money from it instead of being a pawn himself. lol

[.Dream.Time]

This sounds like the USANA Vitamin bullshit my aunt tried to get me into, only with a product that costs even LESS to produce.

I heard that shit isn't that bad actually, i had one of their protein bars and even though it taste like shit. but for nutrition n shit it's suppose to be decent. it's not that overpriced compared to any other protein bars or meal replacements you find out there supposedly

[Great68]

I heard that shit isn't that bad actually, i had one of their protein bars and even though it taste like shit. but for nutrition n shit it's suppose to be decent. it's not that overpriced compared to any other protein bars or meal replacements you find out there supposedly

It's not their products that are the problem, it's the pyramid style "Distributor" network they have. That, and the fact that a lot of their higher execs faked their credentials...

[InvisibleSoul]

Wow, how the hell did I miss this epic thread until now?

Would you rather take the word of all the people here looking out for your best interests, or take the word of all those people pitching the system to you?

What incentive do the people here have to tell you to stay the hell away? None.

What incentive do the people pitching the system have to make you join? They want your money.

They sure aren't doing it for your benefit, that's for DAMN sure.

Who should you believe?

[ecchiecchi]

Haha personally speaking- You guys have done all you can to deter this guy from joining, if he insists, just let him do it.

I just want to see his attempts at selling people Perfect Wataaa

[1exotic]

Look at it this way, if these mother fuckers could sell it themselves and make millions why won't they do it? because they know no one will buy their shit so instead they make BS up to recruit young people or some stupid random Americans telling them "if your motivated to make lots of money come and join us bla bla bla".......

Seriously fail.

[JSALES]

i'd like to hear the OP's progress if he's going to go through with this with sales and recruiting people haha

[hchang]

i'd like to hear the OP's progress if he's going to go through with this with sales and recruiting people haha

Still thinking about it..... fail away.