[seakrait]

Well, the wife and I are starting to think about moving out of our small Downtown apartment. Money (and work) dictates either East Vancouver or Richmond as destinations.

Tell me why I'd rather move to East Van than Richmond. Or vice-versa.

Go. :)

[skyxx]

East Van won't Sink ;). Not a valid reason but whatever. :lol It really depends which area you're planning to stay in, in terms of "East Van".

[BlackZRoadster]

east van wont stink? are you sure

[BlackZRoadster]

^oops nevermind i thought u said wont stink , when its sink..
my bad

[murd0c]

east van wont stink? are you sure

^oops nevermind i thought u said wont stink , when its sink..
my bad

both valid points at least.

Like every city/town there are good areas and bad areas. The main concern for you should be what advantages/disadvantages do both have. From shopping, traffic, how close to work etc.

I say write it down on a piece of paper which will show which is suited for your current and future life plans. Everyone will always have negative and positive things to say about both places so don't let that impact your decision to much.

[BaoXu]

If you move to east van, chances are its gonna be a "small place" again. richmond is more bang for the buck.

[tiger_handheld]

because of this...

http://vancouverisawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/eastvancrossdayandnight.jpg

[E-40six]

it really all depends on your preference.

an example would be, street parking vs your own driveway.
In vancouver, chances are you will be parking on the street or parking in a garage located in an alley. In richmond your driveway is infront of your house.

[tonyvu]

east van, because its just closer to everything

[twitchyzero]

East Van and Richmond are both large areas
if you could be more specific i'm sure there will be better opinions

[eurochevy]

east van just because it has probably 1 less shitty driver in its population than richmond, that and like said above..if anything ever happens..we won't sink

[skyxx]

You don't have to cross a bridge in East Van so you have multiple access points to get to work.

[gabbergabber]

Define East Van, many stereotypes of east vancouver, but seeing only 1 part of east van as disgusting, (main and hastings), the rest is nice.

[hk20000]

East Van down by 49th (I'd think you are thinking Southern East Van coz you are thinking Richmond too) is largely brown people community.

I wouldn't touch that area with the knight street bridge deck if you aren't into loud music and the smell of curry everyday.

[jigga250]

if you're buying....east van

location location location

[G-spec]

East Van down by 49th (I'd think you are thinking Southern East Van coz you are thinking Richmond too) is largely brown people community.

I wouldn't touch that area with the knight street bridge deck if you aren't into loud music and the smell of curry everyday.


my gf had an apartment there and it was shits, the whole knight street bridge area on the Vancouver side.... a buncha teenage girls egged my car twice for no apparent reason, see drug deals around that area on a regular basis, not to mention all the roadblock areas in some of those streets to prevent drive by shootings of residences of known "gangsters"...
shithole of an area

[hk20000]

^ Yeah I was trying to stay politically correct but no one can put it down better LOL.

East Van in the North closer to Hwy 1 is a very nice neighborhood.

[Harvey Specter]

East Van down by 49th (I'd think you are thinking Southern East Van coz you are thinking Richmond too) is largely brown people community.

I wouldn't touch that area with the knight street bridge deck if you aren't into loud music and the smell of curry everyday.

And large Asian areas are much more appealing right? There's a reason why non-Asians stay as far away from Richmond.

As for the OP question, I would stick with East Van.

[hotong]

You should consider Burnaby

[hk20000]

And large Asian areas are much more appealing right? There's a reason why non-Asians stay as far away from Richmond.

As for the OP question, I would stick with East Van.

Of course, Pacific rim Asian people ALWAYS leave you alone even if you have an orgy in public. They might stare, but at the end of the day the party van will never come.

No better neighbor than that, my friend. ;)

[SpuGen]

Depending WHERE in East van, East Van would probably be better.
Of course this depends on where you work.

The Renfrew Heights area is nice.
Anywhere..
South of Venables St.
West of Boundary
North of 41st or 49th.
East of Nanimo.

I know. I just described the area of East Van. Avoid townhouses or housing Complexes.. or even areas around them. Avoid a 0.5-1km vicinity of highschools.
I'm around 1st and Renfrew. I get a nice view of mountains, and Lougheed/Brentwood Mall.. I live around old Italian people, and the streets are essentially dead quiet. Other than this one ricer asshole who recently got his N on my block, it's a safe neighbourhood. Far enough away from highschools, and housing complexes. It's bad to be discriminatory, but when it comes down to choosing where you're gonna live, it really matters. Highschool kids WILL fuck with your car/house on Halloween if you live close enough to the school. Housing complexes usually have lower income families with troubled kids. Meaning you get gangster wannabe little assholes running around at night making noise, or just being a nuisance. And well, you can come up with your own stereotypes and you can avoid areas saturated with certain types of people.

Aim for places with old white people. Seriously.

Richmond.. you get a bigger house/property with the same price of an okay sized house in East Van. It's also probably much quieter, but the commute in/out of Richmond gets old pretty fast. And like my Dad once said "Too many Chinese people"

Main and Broadway has alot of Hippies living around there.
Same with Commercial and Broadway area. The entire chunk of that area from Hastings to 12th, Nanimo to Clark.
Anywhere around Fraser is.. well.. Just check Adon's post.
Avoid Kingsway entirely.
Avoid King Edward entirely in that neighbourhood around Tupper.
And Avoid any areas around the Expo Line Skytrain Stations. Like Broadway, Joyce, Nanimo, 29th. Living too close to places where dumbass teenagers congregate before going to Metrotown is a bad idea. I would know.

Goodluck though. The nicer places in East Van are always more expensive.
One place I would recommend is Charles St From Nanimo to Rupert. Especially Charles St closer to Begbie Elementary. It was my old house's area and it's much nicer. It's almost entirely made up of families with kids in Elementary School and old people.
It's also right by Rupert Park, which has a Pitch and Putt, and a nice bike trail around it.

[Harvey Specter]

Of course, Pacific rim Asian people ALWAYS leave you alone even if you have an orgy in public. They might stare, but at the end of the day the party van will never come.

No better neighbor than that, my friend. ;)

Maybe in your world their prefect neighbors but I've lived in Vancouver my entire life and I've had tons of issues with Asians.

[RC0310_EJ]

Richmond.. very peaceful area imo.. roads are nice and people are usually very friendly around here

[MDMA]

Wen I first read the title I thought this thread was going to be about some crazy turf war LOL
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[tacobell]

Everyone has different wants and needs, since i like nice character homes, friendly neighbors, parks for dogs and if i had to choose some place in east van, i would choose the area by pacific coliseum.

There are some very nice houses in this area, the area by Wall st near New Brighton park is nice too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=163+Kaslo+Street,+Vancouver,+British+Columbia,+C anada&sll=49.286549,-123.046682&sspn=0.008426,0.022724&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=163+Kaslo+St+N,+Vancouver,+Greater+Vancouver +Regional+District,+British+Columbia+V5K+1N6,+Cana da&ll=49.286577,-123.046703&spn=0.00837,0.022724&z=16&layer=c&cbll=49.286554,-123.046692&panoid=BI2QGDMW4ywi9j3jttoI_w&cbp=12,252.95,,0,5

[raygunpk]

where do you work

[RollingStone]

I'd pick East Vancouver over Richmond any day. I like to live in a place that has a wide range of different people both culturally and economic. Richmond is too homologous for me, and there are a lot of things the Chinese culture I dislike about (and I am Chinese). For example, I was in a car accident on Alderbridge a while ago and not a single person (all Chinese) was willing to be a witness. Instead they just pretended they didn't hear me LOL. Selfish bastards. :D

[wouwou]

dude, move over to north burnaby.

[JSALES]

East Van, less bad drivers

[unit]

THE ONLY reason you'd want to live in richmond, is if you have no problem with spending all your time in richmond.

getting out of richmond is annoying. location wise, north east richmond is the most convenient (knight, oak st bridge), but a lot of other nice parts of richmond are a fucking pain in terms of accessibility. and richmond is boring unless you're a bubbletea drinking asian.

east van by a landslide.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

because of this...

http://vancouverisawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/eastvancrossdayandnight.jpg

wehre is that???



uhhh i used to think richmond would be shitty, till i moved here.

I love it. I love it more than downtown. LOL.

it's so convenient here, everything is so close togehter (if u live near RC which i do).

uhh yeah i love richmond. it really depends where u work. I live in a little bubble now. i only leave rmd to visit friends and party. I work 5min walk away from where I live.

rmd isnt as bad as ppl think it is.

as for bad drivers etc. lol its normal man. bad drivers are everywhere.

if u like asians, you'll be surrounded by asians here. the skytrain is ultra fast and useful to get DT. u got lansdowne and RC as your choices for big malls, and everything in between the two for food and groceries.

bums.. crime... what? that's more in the suburbs of richmond.. crime anyways.

Im starting to see some bums long no3 road near the skytrain stations. it's usually the same guys.

[Harvey Specter]

^
Clark and I think E6th.

[TheKingdom2000]

if you're thinking south vancouver then i'd say south van east would be way better..
crossing knight street is a pain in the ass. it's not worth it imo.. + in vancouver you get the nice garbage and yard trimming bins =DDD

richmond is one of the worst run cities next to new west...

what's your budget? you can't buy a house in south east van for less than $600k... if that is the case, i think you can get a bigger place in richmond i believe.

[willystyle]

Everyone has different wants and needs, since i like nice character homes, friendly neighbors, parks for dogs and if i had to choose some place in east van, i would choose the area by pacific coliseum.

There are some very nice houses in this area, the area by Wall st near New Brighton park is nice too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=163+Kaslo+Street,+Vancouver,+British+Columbia,+C anada&sll=49.286549,-123.046682&sspn=0.008426,0.022724&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=163+Kaslo+St+N,+Vancouver,+Greater+Vancouver +Regional+District,+British+Columbia+V5K+1N6,+Cana da&ll=49.286577,-123.046703&spn=0.00837,0.022724&z=16&layer=c&cbll=49.286554,-123.046692&panoid=BI2QGDMW4ywi9j3jttoI_w&cbp=12,252.95,,0,5
Those houses are well over a million dollar cause they have waterfront view.

[Harvey Specter]

The fraserview/killarney area in South Van is really nice but super expensive.

[twitchyzero]

complaining about asian or east indian populated communities is stupid..they both have their disadvantages.

[Meowjin]

hate richmond. Grew up on boundary and 27th.

[hotong]

IMO Richmond is a pretty good place to live.. I would choose to live in Richmond over East Van

[seakrait]

Thanks for your replies guys.

I grew up in Richmond in the Steveston area before I moved Downtown so both Richmond and Downtown are familiar places (as is Vancouver West - though of course we're priced out of there).

I've never really hung out or spent much time in East Vancouver and neither has the wife so the info given above detailing which areas are the good areas and which areas are bad is pretty useful. After looking at some houses for sale in East Van on MLS and Google Streetview, it does seem that there are some nice neighbourhoods in East Van but we are looking for places NOT in South Vancouver or East Richmond.

We don't think we'll be moving at all after we move into a house (that's the current plan anyway) so we're also looking at the catchment area of potential high schools (ie: which high school our kid(s) will eventually go to)... because we think that high school plays quite a large role in a kid's life and we want to lessen the chances of our kids getting in with the wrong crowd. To me, Richmond has the upper hand in this as it seems as if Richmond high schools seem to be less troubled than the East Van schools.

The wife currently works Downtown but she has the ability to transfer and work at a different location. My work is moving locations so I'll be working in East Vancouver by next year. I've commuted to work before but that was from Downtown to work in Richmond. Obviously going the other way (from Richmond to Vancouver) would be much busier.

Further thoughts/comments?

[Marioo1991]

Richmond because they have better dim sum

[orange7]

We don't think we'll be moving at all after we move into a house (that's the current plan anyway) so we're also looking at the catchment area of potential high schools (ie: which high school our kid(s) will eventually go to)... because we think that high school plays quite a large role in a kid's life and we want to lessen the chances of our kids getting in with the wrong crowd. To me, Richmond has the upper hand in this as it seems as if Richmond high schools seem to be less troubled than the East Van schools.


stay far away from Vancouver Technical Secondary (went there, lots of beef) and Britannia (lol.. obviously it's right on Commercial).

I'm not sure about other high school, but I heard good things about Killarney. I think they just got a new ice rink?

[skyxx]

Stay in east van drive kid to Eric Hamber or Prince of wales haha. :)

[GLOW]

SpuGen pretty much summed up East Van pretty nicely. Personally I would suggest Killarney if you have the money, Renfrew/collingwood would be 2nd choice b/c it's cheaper.

If you dont mind, I would suggest North Burnaby as well. Pretty close to east van, price is similar but you get larger houses/lots. I like E.Van b/c it's central to everything: Richmond, downtown, Metro, etc. and lots of forms of easy public transportation if necessary.

Personally I'd stay away from hastings from nanaimo and east, commercial/broadway station area, and s.east van between knight & fraser. I'm not a fan of fraserview either.

If you're unfamiliar with the areas, spend a sunny weekend driving around areas you're interested in. You can notice the nice quiet family oriented areas from ones you get a bad feeling in. Our current place we noticed had a lot of mini-vans parked in driveways in the area and lots of young families in the area going for walks. But living in E.Van I already knew the area I was moving in to.

[bing]

if you're thinking south vancouver then i'd say south van east would be way better..
crossing knight street is a pain in the ass. it's not worth it imo.. + in vancouver you get the nice garbage and yard trimming bins =DDD

richmond is one of the worst run cities next to new west...

what's your budget? you can't buy a house in south east van for less than $600k... if that is the case, i think you can get a bigger place in richmond i believe.

just curious, why do you say richmond is poorly run?

[twitchyzero]

Thanks for your replies guys.
We don't think we'll be moving at all after we move into a house (that's the current plan anyway) so we're also looking at the catchment area of potential high schools (ie: which high school our kid(s) will eventually go to)... because we think that high school plays quite a large role in a kid's life and we want to lessen the chances of our kids getting in with the wrong crowd. To me, Richmond has the upper hand in this as it seems as if Richmond high schools seem to be less troubled than the East Van schools.? If that's the case, then you should consider living near killarney or david thompson secondary...no offense but other east van schools are pretty bad

[SpuGen]

If that's the case, then you should consider living near killarney or david thompson secondary...no offense but other east van schools are pretty bad

And you recommended DT and Killarney?
Van Tech isn't as bad as most people think. They have Summit Program, and they shove all the kids in that program's lockers in the top floor in the "Summit Hall", next to all the Summit Course teachers. What this program is, is basically a program for Smart kids. It's enriched courses and none of the screwups ever go up there. You do see Flex Program kids up there, since most of the smart kids are friends with each other. The Flex program kids also get thier own "Flex Hall" and is similar to the Summit Program, but not as enriched? I don't know. I was a screw up compared to my other friends. Then I switched schools. Ended up at DT, and it was no better.

Funny thing about Van Tech when I went there, is that they pretty much seperated the screwups from the good kids. You could walk around the halls and pinpoint the areas when you walk down the halls.
Summit Hall: Smart nerdy kids. Mostly Asian
Flex Hall: Smart, different kind of nerdy kids. Mostly Asian
French Immersion : The weird skater French immersion kids. You'll see maybe one or 2 Asians in a pool of white kids.
The Ground floor/Basement area: This is where all the Art kids are. Potheads.
2nd floor had all the screwups. They had shittier lockers and they were right by that room where they make you do your homework. It's funny because they only gave that class to the screwups and nobody ever went. That floor also has all the "Essentials" courses like Math Essentials etc
Then they had the Hairdressing/Automotive classes. The lockers near there were for overflow mainly. And you see some screwups there. It was also right on the side of the school, so the people who skipped alot had an easy out.

[hk20000]

Thanks for your replies guys.

I grew up in Richmond in the Steveston area before I moved Downtown so both Richmond and Downtown are familiar places (as is Vancouver West - though of course we're priced out of there).

I've never really hung out or spent much time in East Vancouver and neither has the wife so the info given above detailing which areas are the good areas and which areas are bad is pretty useful. After looking at some houses for sale in East Van on MLS and Google Streetview, it does seem that there are some nice neighbourhoods in East Van but we are looking for places NOT in South Vancouver or East Richmond.

We don't think we'll be moving at all after we move into a house (that's the current plan anyway) so we're also looking at the catchment area of potential high schools (ie: which high school our kid(s) will eventually go to)... because we think that high school plays quite a large role in a kid's life and we want to lessen the chances of our kids getting in with the wrong crowd. To me, Richmond has the upper hand in this as it seems as if Richmond high schools seem to be less troubled than the East Van schools.

The wife currently works Downtown but she has the ability to transfer and work at a different location. My work is moving locations so I'll be working in East Vancouver by next year. I've commuted to work before but that was from Downtown to work in Richmond. Obviously going the other way (from Richmond to Vancouver) would be much busier.

Further thoughts/comments?
Richmond highschools are way better in terms of sensible people going to sensible places afterwards. Less stabbing incidents for sure.

Downtown from Richmond Brighouse is an easy riding 23min away. So the traffic problem is entirely irrelevant if you work DT.

Northern East Vancouver is alright but you are going to get into highway-1 induced traffic jam all the time because that is the only route possible to go anywhere in a brisk fashion. Whereas if you live in Richmond for long enough you have probably figured that there are always multiple ways to cross the river. Use your head, use your AM1130 and it'll be smooth sailing 24/7. Those who think there's problem travelling into and out of Richmond are not using any common sense ;) Live in the Central area of Richmond then you have Hwy 99, Oak St Bridge, Hwy 91, Arthur Laing, Knight, Queensborough, Massey Tunnel, Alex Fraser to let you zoom out of town in a very efficient manner.

As for real estate prices take this into perspective: There's supposed to be a commercial complex completed on the lot South of Alderbridge between no.4 and Garden City. That will bring more people together, and that's gonna hold the value of the house you live in in the long term.

The recreational facilities in Richmond is superb too, Minoru Park for your ice rink, Olympic Oval, Thompson and others for your gym needs, waterworld amusement park, summer Riverport RS meets, golf courses and driving ranges, plenty of green within walking distance from city center. Even if you wanna gamble your money away there is starlight and RiverRock.

There's also always something for your tummy. Dim sum yum cha family restaurant, all you can eat, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, curry, Greek, steakhouse, late night munchies 24 hour coffee spots you pick it Richmond has it. If those don't feel high class enough for you just hop on the skytrain and get out in front of Gotham's, literally.

For shopping name me one chain store that is available in other cities but not in Richmond. Educate me if you know of anything at all. Then on the flip side there are so many shops that Richmond has that Vancouver can't even come to match... So convenient, little to trade-off, why the hell not?

Of course, the only reason I can think of that you might pick East Van over Richmond is that you might be working in East Van, Burnaby, Poco, PoMo, etc.... but working in Richmond or DT would definitely put Richmond ahead of East Van no question about it. Some says Richmond will flood but they say we all die in 2012 too, if you believe in that sort of thing...

Crap drivers are everywhere, it's a fact of life anywhere you live in 604. If it's gonna be you next it's gonna be you...it's not something you can avoid, that's why it's called an accident.

[alex.w *//]

if east van

just stay far away east of commercial and west of main.

[asahai69]

moved from the fraserview area to richmond. our cars got hit 3 times when it was parked outside. you can guess what ethnicity they were. lol. its only a pain in the ass if you wanna leave richmond during rush hour. the driving is horrendous here. even though the lot is bigger in richmond i still wished i lived in our old house in vancouver. thank god we still own the place.......

[danned]

move my area,
move the plate
:D::D:D:D:D:D

[unit]

as for bad drivers etc. lol its normal man. bad drivers are everywhere.


richmond is bad for driving period. its not just the drivers, its the tight parking lots, tight parking spaces, one way parking lots, congestion, etc....

-people dont stop their cars and drop people off on the road anywhere other than richmond and chinatown.
-richmond parking lots are atrocious. heres a few of the worst ones: yaohan, aberdeen, parker place. factor in how hongers love to back their cars in, even though it takes them about 3 or 4 tries with a huge line of cars waiting for them to park so they can get through, and you have a real problem in every richmond parking lot.
-hongers are terrible parkers. they cant park straight or even in the lines most of the times. i once watched a chinese girl try to back her car in about 6-7 times, and then parked almost smack in the middle of a line. she came out, took a look at her parking job, got back in her car, and left out of frustration.
-most dense c-lai population in the gvrd.


i could go on but im falling asleep.

i've lived here for almost a year (used to live in e. van) and i only moved here because of work. otherwise i pretty much hate living here.

[unit]

There's also always something for your tummy. Dim sum yum cha family restaurant, all you can eat, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, curry, Greek, steakhouse, late night munchies 24 hour coffee spots you pick it Richmond has it. If those don't feel high class enough for you just hop on the skytrain and get out in front of Gotham's, literally.

too bad most of those restaurants in richmond are operated by chinese people. there are some authentic, but not nearly as many as in vancouver.


For shopping name me one chain store that is available in other cities but not in Richmond. Educate me if you know of anything at all. Then on the flip side there are so many shops that Richmond has that Vancouver can't even come to match... So convenient, little to trade-off, why the hell not?


what chain store is available in richmond but not vancouver? chain stores are the same everywhere. if you're talking about independent boutiques, vancouver destroys richmond.


Some says Richmond will flood but they say we all die in 2012 too, if you believe in that sort of thing...


a flood in richmond is a guarantee if theres an earthquake... thats not some bogus prediction like 2012, thats a fact!

[!Aznboi128]

the flood in richmond thing is pretty true, I mean there's pumps constantly going in Richmond just to direct the water out.

And east Van isn't bad, I live by Renfrew and 1st and it's pretty safe here, nice neighborhood and great neighbors

[keifun]

representin renfrew/1st area too..

Nice area..its quiet and quite safe for an area in E.Van and its close by T&T hahhaa

[truth]

Renfrew/1st area here as well. Quite a central location for going to North Van, West Van, Burnaby, New West, Surrey/Delta, Richmond, Van West. Lots of places nearby if you have a car, especially all along Hastings. Having BP open up last year on Grandview Hwy is pretty nice too, since there aren't many late night places around here. Walmart/Superstore is close by as well. Also not too far from the broadway/commercial station. Agree that it's quiet around here except around PNE time. Very quick drive to DT and multiple routes to Richmond.

[orange7]

representin renfrew/1st area too..

Nice area..its quiet and quite safe for an area in E.Van and its close by T&T hahhaa

Renfrew/1st area here as well. Quite a central location for going to North Van, West Van, Burnaby, New West, Surrey/Delta, Richmond, Van West. Lots of places nearby if you have a car, especially all along Hastings. Having BP open up last year on Grandview Hwy is pretty nice too, since there aren't many late night places around here. Walmart/Superstore is close by as well. Also not too far from the broadway/commercial station. Agree that it's quiet around here except around PNE time. Very quick drive to DT and multiple routes to Richmond.

nothing spectacular here. No good high school around this neighborhood.

this place is just the average joe.

When I graduate, I actually want to move away from this area just because it's nothing special here. Or maybe because I've been here for my past 15 years.

Also, last year there was a lot of beef in this area. I remember someone getting shot to death at Slocan and 3rd ave.

[XtC-604]

K this is based on someone whos lived on 33rd and oak, and 33rd and nanaimo area, i would definately buy richmond housing over east van housing. Really in Vancouver or GVA theres nothing to do. you can say but all the clubs and shit are downtown...but it gets to a certain point when you realize clubblin and shit is stupid. Richmond is quiet, full of eats, have many grocery areas. Roads are heck of a lot better than East Van's, full of asians :D so no crackhead white guy or whores all over. Atleast my frds places dont have these problems.

[bd0n]

east van

cause well, we have hookers!

[hk20000]

too bad most of those restaurants in richmond are operated by chinese people. there are some authentic, but not nearly as many as in vancouver.


You just need to know where to look for authentic stuff. Funny the most authentic Japanese place is a funky place called Izumi-ya and from outside you'd reckon it's not even a restaurant. Osato-ya down on Garden City Mall is the most un-westernized Japanese food evarr. The Vietnamese food place adjacent to Public Market is teh bomb, the Nammich are hmmm hmmm delicious. Damn you make me hungry. Fuck it 24 hour subway run after I type this stuff. Oh yeah Ikea gets you some pretty damn authentic Swedish meatballs and chocolates.


what chain store is available in richmond but not vancouver? chain stores are the same everywhere. if you're talking about independent boutiques, vancouver destroys richmond.

I don't really see Daiso in Vancouver
I don't see J-Hobby in Vancouver
I don't see import game shops in Vancouver
I don't see Ikea in Vancouver

There are definitely more JDM/KDM boutique shops in Aberdeen Center than all of Vancouver combined.

The Deutscheland Haus is the only building I have discovered over the years that I want to have close by but it's not in Richmond... LOL. Ok maybe Mission Raceway Park too.


a flood in richmond is a guarantee if theres an earthquake... thats not some bogus prediction like 2012, thats a fact!

#8 typhoon hits Hong Kong every year, every year a number of people die from accidents caused by it. Landslides and floods damage homes and destroy properties. You would have to fight a hard case to make that a valid reason for people to "stop moving into HK! It's dangerous!"

[SpuGen]

Wow. That's like 5 of us in the Renfrew and 1st area.
And if you're complaining about 33rd and Nanimo.. look at what big street you're right next to. Kingsway and Nanimo.

[welfare]

east van. most definitely.
but stay away from commercial or main st. which used to be cool places to live but are now ridiculously expensive, trendy and lame

[Meowjin]

I live around #4 and williams. It's actually a nice area and there is alot close by (fast food, groceries) and everything in richmond is 10 minutes away, and getting to downtown only takes 20 minutes. Richmond and Burnaby are honestly one of the better suburbs in metro vancouver IMO. I would still prefer to live in east van though.

[urrh]

Also, last year there was a lot of beef in this area. I remember someone getting shot to death at Slocan and 3rd ave.
wtf. i didn't know about this...

that stupid cunt that abandons babies in plastic bags lives in the area as well.

[hk20000]

oh just so you know there was also fatal stabbing at the McDix on no.3 in Richmond earlier this year or late last year.

And some racial hatred (according to RCMP) violence outside Minoru Park (funny enough it was said it's been EI people vs black ppl, two kinds of skin tone that's just oh so rare for Richmond) Asian was probably around when it happened but no one bothered to talk to the 5-0....

Being Asian I'd still pick Richmond tho, heh.

[Marioo1991]

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[Marioo1991]

Too many stereotype Richmond and give them a bad rep...I think traffic is just as bad in east van. I would consider Richmond because it's 18 mins from downtown, lots of houses with garages in the front of the houses, and if you live close to number 3/rc you have so many restaurants, grocery stores and other shopping.
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[welfare]

lol@ 18 minutes from DT.

[cressydrift]

Who cares what culture dominates the area. I live in Surrey, and Surrey you could say is dominated by Indians. You can look at some negatives about this but I try and look at the positives, lots of Indian food!!!:):):) Plus learning the culture and all there swear words. I am going to try and make a list of areas with the prominent culture.

West Vancouver - Rich snobs. (All races)
North Vancouver - Persian/White
Downtown - Everything/Bums
East Vancouver - Italian/Everything/Hookers
Burnaby - Asia
New Westminster - Little bit of everything/Filapino
Richmond/Steveston - Asia
Ladner/Tsawassen - Bible thumpin, sky daddy worshiping white people
Delta - White/Brown
Surrey - Brown/White
Coquitlam/Poco/Port Moody - Everything??
Cloverdale/Langley/Aldergrove/Abby/Chilliwack/Hope/Spuzum - Trailer Trash:P

Feel free to add on or make adjustments

[notching]

Used to live by lansdowne richmond now living by brentwood north burnaby

both are excellent but richmond wins by miles
also i dont get why people say richmond driving sucks. bad drivers are fcking EVERYWHERE in gva. at least richmond's got flat paved roads.

[unit]

You just need to know where to look for authentic stuff. Funny the most authentic Japanese place is a funky place called Izumi-ya and from outside you'd reckon it's not even a restaurant. Osato-ya down on Garden City Mall is the most un-westernized Japanese food evarr. The Vietnamese food place adjacent to Public Market is teh bomb, the Nammich are hmmm hmmm delicious. Damn you make me hungry. Fuck it 24 hour subway run after I type this stuff. Oh yeah Ikea gets you some pretty damn authentic Swedish meatballs and chocolates.


I don't really see Daiso in Vancouver
I don't see J-Hobby in Vancouver
I don't see import game shops in Vancouver
I don't see Ikea in Vancouver

There are definitely more JDM/KDM boutique shops in Aberdeen Center than all of Vancouver combined.


those arent chain stores. if you're not talking about chain stores, theres tons of stores you can find in vancouver that arent in richmond.

im not saying richmond doesnt have authentic food, but compared to vancouver, its not even close. commercial drive anybody???
and you cant start talking about vietnamese food in richmond as an advantage over east van.... thats just ludicrous.
izumi-ya is a branch of fujiya, which is on clark st in vancouver.

and who shops at those jdm/kdm boutique shops anyway?
i'll give aberdeen mall one thing... it has the only fake food store in the whole GVRD. LOL
aberdeen mall is terrible.

[ate.ge]

Stay in east van drive kid to Eric Hamber or Prince of wales haha. :)

i go to pw... its not a good school lol.. full of mainlanders and wannabe's. id agree to live in the east van and drive your kid to some west side school though. on the other hand, Churchill and Hamber are really good schools..

[BlackZRoadster]

i go to pw... its not a good school lol.. full of mainlanders and wannabe's. id agree to live in the east van and drive your kid to some west side school though. on the other hand, Churchill and Hamber are really good schools..

i went to churchill, and i think its a good school. Richmond high schools are full of wannabe gangsters / gangs...i've attended one and it totally screwed me up

[asahai69]

Who cares what culture dominates the area. I live in Surrey, and Surrey you could say is dominated by Indians. You can look at some negatives about this but I try and look at the positives, lots of Indian food!!!:):):) Plus learning the culture and all there swear words. I am going to try and make a list of areas with the prominent culture.

West Vancouver - Rich snobs. (All races)
North Vancouver - Persian/White
Downtown - Everything/Bums
East Vancouver - Italian/Everything/Hookers
Burnaby - Asia
New Westminster - Little bit of everything/Filapino
Richmond/Steveston - Asia
Ladner/Tsawassen - Bible thumpin, sky daddy worshiping white people
Delta - White/Brown
Surrey - Brown/White
Coquitlam/Poco/Port Moody - Everything??
Cloverdale/Langley/Aldergrove/Abby/Chilliwack/Hope/Spuzum - Trailer Trash:P

Feel free to add on or make adjustments

South Van - Brown Town

[Teriyaki]

I lived in Vancouver (westside albeit) almost all my life and now live in Richmond. Both great places to live but honestly the convenience of Richmond destroys. When in Vancouver, we'd find ourselves driving to Richmond atleast 2-3 times a week for food, shopping, etc etc. Its a relatively newer city and the city isn't bogged down in as much debt so the infrastructure is always being updated (also helps that there is so much development still ongoing).

I would seriously look at Burnaby as well though if you're considering settling down for life. Housing is pretty reasonable, and there are some houses that are built in a way that allow for 2 separate tenants downstairs while you live upstairs (also available in E.Van I believe), so its great supplemental income.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

east van

cause well, we have hookers!

there are hookers everywhere lol

[Mr.HappySilp]

In East Van you don't have to deal with C-lais drivings their CRV's going into the opposite lane, takes 20misn to park their in a mall. However, in richmond you get all the cheap night snack places to go to, close to the casnio.

Up to you

[Jingwu3]

In East Van you don't have to deal with C-lais drivings their CRV's going into the opposite lane, takes 20misn to park their in a mall. However, in richmond you get all the cheap night snack places to go to, close to the casnio.

Up to you

I have never seen a c-lai driving in opposite lane in Richmond all my life...but I have seen plenty truck driving rednecks tail-gating and road raging all over gvrd...I rather have slow drivers over dangerous drivers anyday.

[TheKingdom2000]

OP, I never thought of my future children at all. That makes a large difference.
I agree that schools in richmond will be less likely to send your kids in the wrong direction.
In Vancouver there are too many schools with gangsters and with actual siblings of real gangsters... so this may influence some
If I would have to chose a school for my children, it would be either churchill, magee, point grey. This is based soley on reputation so ymmv...
In regards to Killarney, DT, Brit, Van Tech, etc.. I know there are a lot of dangerous people in these schools.

just curious, why do you say richmond is poorly run?

Well, the infrastructure they build is never thought through. either their roads or transit system.
And according to Macleans, based on the contributions of the city government. this is independent of quality of life.

Burnaby is no. 1, surrey is no. 3, Vancouver is no 4. <-- this is in ALL of Canada
But, then again Richmond is no. 14 on this list... So that's pretty good.
In comparison to the other cities in the GVR it is definitely not top 3 run at all.

and personal bias as well.

[CorneringArtist]

Who cares what culture dominates the area. I live in Surrey, and Surrey you could say is dominated by Indians. You can look at some negatives about this but I try and look at the positives, lots of Indian food!!!:):):) Plus learning the culture and all there swear words. I am going to try and make a list of areas with the prominent culture.

West Vancouver - Rich snobs. (All races)
North Vancouver - Persian/White
Downtown - Everything/Bums
East Vancouver - Italian/Everything/Hookers
Burnaby - Asia
New Westminster - Little bit of everything/Filapino
Richmond/Steveston - Asia
Ladner/Tsawassen - Bible thumpin, sky daddy worshiping white people
Delta - White/Brown
Surrey - Brown/White
Coquitlam/Poco/Port Moody - Everything??
Cloverdale/Langley/Aldergrove/Abby/Chilliwack/Hope/Spuzum - Trailer Trash:P

Feel free to add on or make adjustments

Lots of Filipinos are moving into the Guildford area of Surrey. My complex has seen four filipino families move in in the last three months.

[woob]

The commute to a west-side school really isn't bad from anywhere in East Van. I did it for high school and now I commute to UBC (I live at Marine and Boundary-ish). It's even easier if you live close to 49th or 41st (which I don't).

[seakrait]

thanks guys. :) wife and i drove around today in east van in the downpour to check out the different neighbourhoods. not an accurate picture i suppose since any bums wouldn't have been out and about. :p

saw some nice neighbourhoods... went to a few open houses... some of the houses had pretty weird layouts. we'll be driving around richmond next weekend to show the wife the different richmond neighbourhoods...

[nickmak]

east van. i live in richmond, and im chinese and i still hate it. lived there for like... 11 years now and now i live on the other side of the tunnel but i drive to richmond everyday to work/see my parents etc. and i don't miss this place one bit. i live in tsawassen of all places and all i have to deal with is skater bums not using cross walks. i don't have to worry about getting t-boned by a c-lai in a sienna or a cayenne either!

[SpuGen]

OP, I never thought of my future children at all. That makes a large difference.
I agree that schools in richmond will be less likely to send your kids in the wrong direction.
In Vancouver there are too many schools with gangsters and with actual siblings of real gangsters... so this may influence some
If I would have to chose a school for my children, it would be either churchill, magee, point grey. This is based soley on reputation so ymmv...
In regards to Killarney, DT, Brit, Van Tech, etc.. I know there are a lot of dangerous people in these schools.


There are way more Gang members in Richmond schools than there are in East Van schools. And there's kids whos parents are gang members in West Van schools too.

[unit]

I have never seen a c-lai driving in opposite lane in Richmond all my life...but I have seen plenty truck driving rednecks tail-gating and road raging all over gvrd...I rather have slow drivers over dangerous drivers anyday.

slow driving doesnt necessarily equate to safe driving.
drifting into other lanes, not shoulder checking, being the 2nd, 3rd, 4th car that turns left on a yellow (and red), are not safe practices. i could go on..

Lots of Filipinos are moving into the Guildford area of Surrey. My complex has seen four filipino families move in in the last three months.

fililpinos living in guildford is not a new thing... johnston heights, guildford park, north surrey..... have all had lots of filipino kids for quite a while now.

[static]

East Van if you work in Vancouver, it's so much better commuting over no bridges during rush hour

[dinamix]

richmond sucks.

-knight st bridge is always bottle necked.
-too many cop cars at night.
-too strict with VI's.
-lots of red light runners.
-lots of high risk accident traffic areas
-no good drinking area night hot spots
-no good clubs
-most hot chicks are under 5 feet tall
-too many annoying N drivers with luxury cars
-theres only one gas station opened 24hrs
-no strip clubs
-no swimmable beaches or lakes
-no 24 hr gym
-riverport silvercity is always busy- no seats
-mall food court food sucks
-planes near airport is too loud
-no place to cheer when canucks win

[sekin67835]

TBH, there are gangsters in every school, you just gotta set your kid straight and make sure he doesnt f**k around too much.

[CorneringArtist]

fililpinos living in guildford is not a new thing... johnston heights, guildford park, north surrey..... have all had lots of filipino kids for quite a while now.

I was adding to cressydrift's post, but I suppose 10 years makes a difference. I used to live near JH, and moved to the GP area in 1998 (I was going into 2nd grade). Up until 2005, I never really noticed THAT many Filipinos in the neighborhood when I remember back to it, and now the feeder schools are taking in more ESL students. Even GP was predominantly white/brown when I started grade 8 in 05. Now it seems more balanced out culturally but there are a lot more Filipino kids in the school (including myself, even though I can't speak tagalog for shit), than there were five years ago, plus a lot more ESL students from the Middle East coming in this year.

[TheKingdom2000]

There are way more Gang members in Richmond schools than there are in East Van schools. And there's kids whos parents are gang members in West Van schools too.

i didn`t go to richmond schools so i can`t really comment on that..
but, i think we can all agree that if op sent his children to a west side school the influence of gang related friends would be less than both of east van and richmond..

[kristianhay]

There are way more Gang members in Richmond schools than there are in East Van schools. And there's kids whos parents are gang members in West Van schools too.

Really? Did you go to school in Richmond? I can guarantee there are little to no gang members in the high schools here. The only "gang members" here are the losers who love Ed Hardy and True Religions and they pose very little threat to anybody.

[welfare]

slow driving doesnt necessarily equate to safe driving.
drifting into other lanes, not shoulder checking, being the 2nd, 3rd, 4th car that turns left on a yellow (and red), are not safe practices. i could go on..


that reminds me of a joke.
what's the number 1 car driven in richmond?...


















































...the courtesy car

[n1smo]

There are way more Gang members in Richmond schools than there are in East Van schools. And there's kids whos parents are gang members in West Van schools too.



if you call a bunch of grade 8s and 9s standing around parker place smoking gansters than yup we have them thugs in richmond

[welfare]

i didn`t go to richmond schools so i can`t really comment on that..
but, i think we can all agree that if op sent his children to a west side school the influence of gang related friends would be less than both of east van and richmond..

competence is not brought about by sheltering

[StealthFighter]

also if you're thinking about your kid's future past highschool. it's gonna be easier to get to sfu, ubc, langara, vcc, capilano, etc. by commuting or driving in east van.

whereas, with richmond only kwantlen is convenient.

[Saywhat?]

I've lived on #5/Williams in Richmond my entire life and find the location great for commuting - very easy highway 99/Knight+Oak street bridge access. In non-rush hour it takes just over 20 mins to get to downtown, and 25 to UBC.

It's a great place to grow up in - good schools, extra-curricular activites, family activities...tonnnnes of places to eat!

I've noticed that the house prices in the more eastern parts of Richmond tend to be a bit lower.

[TRDood]

Fraserview if you can afford it. this would be south of 49th to Marine Drive, west of Kerr to Knight.

you are practically 30 mins within everything.
everything i mean
20mins from ubc
25mins from sfu
15mins from DT
10mins from richmond
40mins from skiing
less than 5 from good highschools (david thompson and killnary)

do you really want your kids to grow up in richmond and hang around with jeffield, morganjai, and guccimane?

although this area is going a little downhill because kids are getting dumber in david thompson and thr hobos from kingsway are moving south.
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[snowball]

First thing I would take into consideration is the high school nearby cause you will probably raise your kids in the neighbourhood you move into. If you're looking at eastvan there's no real bad school since the schools are as diverse as the neighbourhood themselves (personally I would stay away from van tech and brit)

I've never lived in richmond but I can see the benefits of living there: it's quiet, crime seems to be lower, lots are bigger, schools are more mellow, if you want to drive everywhere you can.
but i chose not to live there because: i don't want to drive everywhere, i don't need a big place, too far from my favourite places, there's no personality in a suburban neighbourhood.

The thing about east-van is that every part is a mixed bag of everything. One block might be the nicest city block on the eastside and you can walk two blocks down and it can be an absolute dump. That being said, crime isn't that bad, it's more fear than anything, if you consider how densely populated east van is the rate isn't that high.

[AccordCouped]

east van,

rather have your kid grow up a gangster than a nerd.. nerd life sucks trust me

[goo3]

thanks guys. :) wife and i drove around today in east van in the downpour to check out the different neighbourhoods. not an accurate picture i suppose since any bums wouldn't have been out and about. :p


you won't find bums here (except for maybe broadway skytrain) like you will downtown

East Van is mainly working class families who deal with working class issues. It's not rich, but it's not poor enough to fuck kids up. A mixed bag is the right way to describe it. Some families struggle, some not so much. Some places might be rough around the edges. But it's the inner city covering a big area so that's the way it is.

If anything, your kid will grow up less ignorant. But you should find the right fit where you can be good parents cuz Richmond will have its own flavor of good and bad.

[drunkrussian]

i live in richmond and would also agree that it's based on preference.

Though East Van is a huge area, on the whole, i would argue that it has a more downtown-like feel to it than richmond. More concrete, older houses, bigger roads, etc. Richmond on the other hand i would say has a newer, more residential feel to it - more greenery/vegetation and good malls/food within 10 minutes no matter where you are.

So if you're basing it off lifestyle, i guess go with what works better. If you wanna settle down, I think Richmond would be nice - grocery shopping, entertainment, good food and everything else you need within close, easy driving distance with less than ten numbered roads in the whole city. On the other hand, if you frequently like to go eat/drink/club downtown, shop at metrotown, beach it up kits etc. etc., then maybe east van is the better choice, as it seems to be close to everything!

If you're basing it off transportation, i think both are fairly good now with the skytrain in place. Both are also easily driveable (c-lais aside).

If you're basing it off the living conditions itself, i suppose east van is known to be more problem-prone, but i guess that's just the ghetto area of east van. On the whole though, i would argue that richmond "feels" safer, perhaps just by the way the neighbourhoods are arranged, the amount of greenery etc. This is totally my opinion though. In terms of the quality of houses, a lot of richmond's housing seems to have a newer feel. As for house prices, I wouldn't be able to tell u...

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

it's really an easy choice. all my east side friends are sketched of parking nice cars outside anywhere.

ppl from rmd or west side dont even have that thought.

east side sucks.

[Wetordry]

Seems like RS is focusing on schools a lot.

How important is your kid's education? Will you be actively helping your kid through this process?

-if you will be there all the time & helping with homework & extra curricular activites > it doesnt matter where you live (i know a doctor & a lawyer that graduated from britannia)

-if you will be a slack parent or just cant commit the time maybe you have to rely on the following stats to help you decide:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/reportcards/schoolperformance/schoolfinder.aspx?prov=BC&lv=S&l=A

[hk20000]

When all my friends gather to talk about their gangster crap back in highschool I was like what gangster shit?

The closest gangster shit I had was some white boy whip out a butterfly knife to show off.....he's not even threatening no one he's just like "check this shit out bro" LOL

[unit]

it's really an easy choice. all my east side friends are sketched of parking nice cars outside anywhere.

ppl from rmd or west side dont even have that thought.

east side sucks.

i live in richmond and i have that thought.
however its a lil different in richmond.
you're not scared of ppl stealing your car, you're scared of people dinging it in a parking lot.
so you park 2 blocks away or at the very end of the parking lot to avoid other cars.

[hk20000]

^ That or people just driving INTO your car when you are sound asleep.

[unit]

^lol what?

anyway, i speak from experience with the parking lot thing.
parked at lansdowne in a normal sized stall, right in the middle.
came out 30m later and theres a huge white scratch on the corner of my bumper.
learned my lesson... i'd rather walk an extra minute or two to the mall and avoid that sort of thing.

[racerman88]

have you looked into either champlain in east Van or Hamilton in east Richmond?

[Amuse]

Park in a Richmond parking lot, you will come back to see your car boxed in or no way to open your driver's door. Some people just don't care about your car.

[K3604]

If you don't speak chinese don't move to richmond. East Van FTW :D

[bcrdukes]

seakrait, I grew up in East Van, right in Chinatown. Went to Strathcona and Britannia for school. Look how I turned out. :lol

As for my sister, she's in Comp Sci @ UBC. My brother? Fucking kid is going to med school! Yeah, we're East Side thuggin'. Next time I see you, imma cap yo' ass! :D

[Porschedog]

Richmond

-Crazy driving C Lai's

[AWDTurboLuvr]

I've lived in Richmond, Kerrisdale, Downtown Vancouver and Burnaby in the past decade, with Richmond the city I reside in now. I can truthfully say that I enjoy living here. The four places aren't comparable, but they have the highlights and downsides, depending where you are in life.

I live in Central Richmond, around the Minoru Park area, and I'm close to 3 bridges, Canada Line and tons of food. Being a dog owner, I also enjoy the dog parks and trails that Richmond offers. I'm close enough to the airport that I pick up most my packages there and when I travel, I'm already at YVR's doorstep and don't fight traffic to get there.

Honestly, I don't find traffic going into Vancouver from Richmond via the Knight St. bridge that bad. It only takes 25 minutes to get to work in Burnaby from Richmond.

As far as schools go, I think Richmond has an edge there over East Van in terms of primary and secondary schools. Post-secondary, East Van is closer to most of them, if not all of them.

Traffic in Richmond sucks by No.3 road and on Westminster Hwy if there's an accident, but there are enough through roads to get by them once you know the area. Plus the roads are much better in Richmond, even in the residential areas. Parking is exaggerated IMO. I got more door dings at BCIT in a few years than all the times I've been in Richmond, but then again, I don't go to Aberdeen or any of the asian malls that often.

Housing prices can get expensive in Richmond...like the obvious Terra Nova and the areas south of that. There are some more affordable areas east of No. 4 road and south of Blundell and as you get close to Steveston Hwy.

Do you have a price range in mind??

[butter_sashimi]

Judging an area to reside in based on who drives on the nearby roads is so damn retarded. If you're gonna find a bad driver in one place, you're bound to meet the same driver (or type of driver) in the next area you're heading to. I, for one, am a crappy driver and I roam everywhere in the lower mainland.

Don't fret too much about your future kid's place of post-secondary education. Driving to school is not that hard and if you are penny-pinching, then take public transit and save on the gas. UPass, btw? If your child is in 4th year at UBC/SFU/BCIT/wherever, and he doesn't have the initiative to take the bus to get to class, then you got a lousy child. Distance and time? Then its your responsibility to go early and be on time.

Now your kid can be successful whereever the highschool may be. Yes, upbringing and family time makes up most of his potential, but at the same time you will have to fight against whatever influences he will encounter at school. Yes, professionals grew up from the East Side too but so is the notion that all that ghetto stuff is there too. It wont mean East Van is bad 100% of the time, it just means you got one extra worry in the back of your head when your kid goes out to meet his gangsta-lookin friends. Discriminatory? Probably, but if you're aren't really confident in the area you are considering, then obviously you should consider Richmond a bit more.

Bars/drinks/entertainment-- all the good stuff is in downtown anyways. But most of all.... Richmond has some good Chinese deals on groceries and I personally like the overall new-ness of it. Consider the necessary amnenites for your own needs first.

[Meowjin]

what race of people do you want your kids being friends with? Serious question.

[ntan]

Are your kids about the age to go into high school? If not, I wouldn't fret too much about getting into certain high school catchment areas and be more concerned with elementary schools.

Chances are, you're probably going to move again, so you can worry about high schools later. Furthermore, high schools are constantly changing, and what once was a good school, could potentially turn bad, and vice versa.

[Recoil]

Richmond has everything east van has but better.

To sum it up.

Richmond is a cleaner, safer, richer city in general.
More cops, less crime, less bums junkies etc.
Everything in Richmond is located in close proximity, Richmond has a better layout.
All the commercial areas, malls restaurants are all together, making everything more convenient.

Richmond also has MORE late night entertainment locations / restaurants, again all in close proximity of each other.

Richmond's ghetto area is far away from city center.

East van's ghetto's are far too close to the Rich areas. I always see bums and junkies walkin around the rich areas, there are more bums and thieves, and drug dealers doin their runs around east van.

Richmond is a very quiet city at night + NO street hookers. All the crime in Richmond is hidden from sight. Crime rate is also lower.

Where as you see shootings, murder, armed robery in broad daylight in East Van. E.g. today phone store got robbed in broad daylight right on Kingsway.

One last thing.

Going downtown / airport/ usa / border is quicker from Richmond then from East Van.

Granville st / Arthur Lang has much quicker traffic during rush hour then Kingsway, broadway / granview / 12th etc.

I live and work in East Van and Richmond.

[Grim]

i like richmond :D
HAte the drivers.
Especially the well off 18yrold wit their N's cutting traffic, n ripping it around in their daddy's n mommy's car.
Eastvan u get less of that.. But when u do.. Its usually civyics or rice buckets
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[bcrdukes]

Just an observation (and purely my own opinion.)

I noticed that friends of mine who grew up and have lived in Richmond all their lives are rather clueless about anything beyond Richmond. They live in a bubble and don't even like going beyond the bridges. Sometimes, I feel that they're better off living under a rock. Oh, and to them, East Van is scary and life threatening. :\

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

East van's ghetto's are far too close to the Rich areas. I always see bums and junkies walkin around the rich areas, there are more bums and thieves, and drug dealers doin their runs around east van.


lol what? rich east van is an oxymoron. they don't belong in the same sentence haha!

[AWDTurboLuvr]

Just an observation (and purely my own opinion.)

I noticed that friends of mine who grew up and have lived in *insert any town/city* all their lives are rather clueless about anything beyond *previous inserted town/city*. They live in a bubble and don't even like going beyond the bridges. Sometimes, I feel that they're better off living under a rock. Oh, and to them, East Van is scary and life threatening. :\

Fixed.

I've noticed this too with my circle of friends. If they never moved outside of the city or town they grew up in, they don't usually venture far.

[orange7]

I like Richmond too. I wish I had the chance to grow up in Richmond.

[SpuGen]

Fixed.

I've noticed this too with my circle of friends. If they never moved outside of the city or town they grew up in, they don't usually venture far.

How was that fixed?

None of my friends who live in Richmond want to go outside of Richmond to do ANYTHING. Even if the rest of us are having dinner somewhere in Vancouver, they pester everyone to eat in Richmond.

They find East Van "scary" and won't even drive near Surrey or even Burnaby (except for Metro)

Kids in Richmond live a sheltered life. Since everything in Richmond is so close, they hate venturing out too far, or they make excuses to avoid crossing any bridge or highway.

Example? They think Tsawassen is far. Are you kidding me?

[AWDTurboLuvr]

How was that fixed?

None of my friends who live in Richmond want to go outside of Richmond to do ANYTHING. Even if the rest of us are having dinner somewhere in Vancouver, they pester everyone to eat in Richmond.

They find East Van "scary" and won't even drive near Surrey or even Burnaby (except for Metro)

Kids in Richmond live a sheltered life. Since everything in Richmond is so close, they hate venturing out too far, or they make excuses to avoid crossing any bridge or highway.

Example? They think Tsawassen is far. Are you kidding me?

I guess it went right over your head, unless you stopped reading after the bold. Think about the mentality of someone who lives in one place all their life. It's like the story of the frog in the well.

I know someone who grew up and still lives in Burnaby. He loves it, won't cross a bridge, thinks anything west of Cambie is a hassle. Why? Because he's too damn comfortable and has everything he needs in his hometown of Burnaby.

Then again, I don't know how old your friends are, what experiences they've had in life or if they are just plain sheltered. BTW, are they Asian? I find that my Asian friends don't like venturing outside of they're city of residence.

[SpuGen]

I guess it went right over your head, unless you stopped reading after the bold. Think about the mentality of someone who lives in one place all their life. It's like the story of the frog in the well.

I know someone who grew up and still lives in Burnaby. He loves it, won't cross a bridge, thinks anything west of Cambie is a hassle. Why? Because he's too damn comfortable and has everything he needs in his hometown of Burnaby.

Then again, I don't know how old your friends are, what experiences they've had in life or if they are just plain sheltered. BTW, are they Asian? I find that my Asian friends don't like venturing outside of they're city of residence.

Some Asian. Some white. A few are bouncers. You would think that they would be the last ones to be afraid of East Van or Surrey.

[Ride]

We all who live in Vancouver and Richmond should be lucky we don't have to travel far to get either place. I live in E Van and I go to Richmond 3-4 times a week and it's no big deal takes me from near Joyce skytrain to Alderbridge probably 20 mins during rush hour unless if theres an accident.
I don't think I would leave E.Van but I wouldn't mind buying property in Richmond, lots of 1/2 1/4 acre propertys for 600k+ with a old house of course almost the same price for old timer E. Vancouver home but more land.

Just be lucky either place isn't the distance we have to travel to get to Surrey or White Rock and then deal with some of the drivers out there, I have friends out in Surrey but I hardly make it out there to visit them it seems to be too much trouble to get out there just for a visit.

[AWDTurboLuvr]

We all who live in Vancouver and Richmond should be lucky we don't have to travel far to get either place. I live in E Van and I go to Richmond 3-4 times a week and it's no big deal takes me from near Joyce skytrain to Alderbridge probably 20 mins during rush hour unless if theres an accident.
I don't think I would leave E.Van but I wouldn't mind buying property in Richmond, lots of 1/2 1/4 acre propertys for 600k+ with a old house of course almost the same price for old timer E. Vancouver home but more land.

Just be lucky either place isn't the distance we have to travel to get to Surrey or White Rock and then deal with some of the drivers out there, I have friends out in Surrey but I hardly make it out there to visit them it seems to be too much trouble to get out there just for a visit.

I agree. We complain about traffic and long commutes, but in reality, it's really not that bad. I decided to move back to Richmond because of family and friends. It's easier to see them all the time if we all are around the same vicinity. It's just how humans tend to socialize.

Anyways, where are these 1/4 acre properties in Richmond for $600K? My parents lot near No.4 road and Granville is a 1/4 acre and the area's going rate is almost 900K! I remember when $500,000 bought you a great place in Ditchmond.

[Ride]

Anyways, where are these 1/4 acre properties in Richmond for $600K? My parents lot near No.4 road and Granville is a 1/4 acre and the area's going rate is almost 900K! I remember when $500,000 bought you a great place in Ditchmond.

600k+. There's one place I seen on Westminster between 4rd and 5rd for 650 1/2acre with rental income at $1200 that's all I can say, don't know if sold already.

[Delerious]

I recently moved to East Van.. Grew up in Kelowna suburbia (west side) then went to school in Calgary and worked there for a year or so. After getting over the culture shock (live near fraser and kingsway, a block and a half south of kingsway where i'm at) it's a pretty nice place. Kingsway is a dive, but you go a street off of it in most directions and it's much much nicer. I was surprised to find how much of a family neighborhood it is.

I haven't experienced really any other parts of the city other than passing through them, but I'm satisfied where I'm at.

[Ride]

After getting over the culture shock (live near fraser and kingsway, a block and a half south of kingsway where i'm at) it's a pretty nice place. Kingsway is a dive, but you go a street off of it in most directions and it's much much nicer. I was surprised to find how much of a family neighborhood it is.

ya I guess u could call it a family neigborhood or more like a family neigborhood with a lot of grow ops.

[goo3]

East Van has a former gang sign that lights up & Richmond has a giant Lenin head that one day should (IMO) become their new city hall :D

This thread sounds like a typical city vs suburb argument.

[sittin sidewayz]

born & raised. east muthafuckin Van what up.

[seakrait]

seakrait, I grew up in East Van, right in Chinatown. Went to Strathcona and Britannia for school. Look how I turned out. :lol

So Richmond it is! :haha: Just kidding.

Yeah, obviously a lot of pros and cons about both areas. Good to read about them all. Thanks for all the comments. The wife says thanks too.

[truth]

How was that fixed?

None of my friends who live in Richmond want to go outside of Richmond to do ANYTHING. Even if the rest of us are having dinner somewhere in Vancouver, they pester everyone to eat in Richmond.

They find East Van "scary" and won't even drive near Surrey or even Burnaby (except for Metro)

Kids in Richmond live a sheltered life. Since everything in Richmond is so close, they hate venturing out too far, or they make excuses to avoid crossing any bridge or highway.

Example? They think Tsawassen is far. Are you kidding me?

I have friends like this too, but I just learned not to bother asking them or expect them to cross the scary scary bridge with the troll underneath. It's true that they have lots of things to do in such a dense area, but it's the same type of activities - bbt, basketball, mall, bbt, and more bbt. I'm in Richmond quite a bit, but I would still prefer East Van any day of the week.

The whole "east van is scary" statement is getting pretty old. IMO, some kids in Richmond are just spoiled having things so close to home and they're missing out on what the rest of the Lower Mainland has to offer if they don't like to leave their bubble.

[d1]

East van (collingwood) is awesome for me. I'm usually within 30 minutes of anywhere I need to be.

25 mins to SFU
25 mins to surrey central
25 mins to downtown vancouver
under 20 mins to richmond

[ny-33]

I moved from Richmond to east van (collingwood area) and after 2 years, I moved back to Richmond. Even though I worked 5 mins away from collingwood, I don't regret moving back to Richmond. Convenience is king, the streets and neighbourhoods are nice, more of a community here in richmond. I wouldn't want to raise children in the area of east van that I lived in.
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[Sid Vicious]

How was that fixed?

None of my friends who live in Richmond want to go outside of Richmond to do ANYTHING. Even if the rest of us are having dinner somewhere in Vancouver, they pester everyone to eat in Richmond.

They find East Van "scary" and won't even drive near Surrey or even Burnaby (except for Metro)

Kids in Richmond live a sheltered life. Since everything in Richmond is so close, they hate venturing out too far, or they make excuses to avoid crossing any bridge or highway.

Example? They think Tsawassen is far. Are you kidding me?

Maybe the problem here isn't Richmond, but that your friends are faggots

[bcrdukes]

^
Clearly, it is an isolated case in which it wasn't necessary to resort in name calling.

[achiam]

Maybe the problem here isn't Richmond, but that your friends are faggots

You really shouldn't label people faggots on a public forum. I am not gay but have a number of gay friends. Many people would be deeply offended and I don't think homophobia/gay hatred reflects this board!

[death_blossom]

East Van, cuz I'm here! lol.

[SpuGen]

Maybe the problem here isn't Richmond, but that your friends are faggots

And you're all from Richmond. Makes sense.

[drunkrussian]

it's really an easy choice. all my east side friends are sketched of parking nice cars outside anywhere.

ppl from rmd or west side dont even have that thought.

east side sucks.

not true. I live in richmond, 5 road and bridgeport area and break-ins here are super common. My gf lives no. 4 and blundell area, which is a nicer area than our's, and break-ins there are common too.

not to mention the lansdowne speed bumps vs. lowered cars thing lol

Just an observation (and purely my own opinion.)

I noticed that friends of mine who grew up and have lived in Richmond all their lives are rather clueless about anything beyond Richmond. They live in a bubble and don't even like going beyond the bridges. Sometimes, I feel that they're better off living under a rock. Oh, and to them, East Van is scary and life threatening. :\

this is not an isolated case like some ppl have said. There's an entire thread on this on RS!

[Sid Vicious]

And you're all from Richmond. Makes sense.

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[alex.w *//]

Everyone has different wants and needs, since i like nice character homes, friendly neighbors, parks for dogs and if i had to choose some place in east van, i would choose the area by pacific coliseum.

There are some very nice houses in this area, the area by Wall st near New Brighton park is nice too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=163+Kaslo+Street,+Vancouver,+British+Columbia,+C anada&sll=49.286549,-123.046682&sspn=0.008426,0.022724&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=163+Kaslo+St+N,+Vancouver,+Greater+Vancouver +Regional+District,+British+Columbia+V5K+1N6,+Cana da&ll=49.286577,-123.046703&spn=0.00837,0.022724&z=16&layer=c&cbll=49.286554,-123.046692&panoid=BI2QGDMW4ywi9j3jttoI_w&cbp=12,252.95,,0,5

i pass by this house every day walking home from school back in highschool.

I live on the wall street area. its great. close to new brighton pool for outdoor swimming in the summer. and biking. great view of north shore mountains. close enough that whenever i want to go snowboarding, i just look outside and see if there is fresh powder.

[Her0-]

i lived in both East Vanc and Richmond and currently living in Richmond..
i prefer Richmond, because for me its closer to all the places i go to..
and i dont go to vanc often now.. but yah, if you move to Richmond, beware of the drivers! ur road rage will increase every corner u make..

[freakshow]

I live in Richmond and love it here. GF lives in E. Van (Renfrew + 29th) and loves it there.

Richmond is great because it's convenient for me; most of my friends live in Richmond and I work in Richmond.
E. Van is great because it's 15-20mins away from everything: Metrotown, Granville Island, D/T, Richmond, etc.

However, it doesn't really matter what I like, or what my gf likes.. it's all about what is gonna fit your lifestyle the best. You work in E. Van? Well, that makes a huge difference. All your friend's live throughout bby and e. van? then don't stay in Richmond. You like peaceful late night bubble tea runs and and quiet neighbourhood? Richmond it is.

Good luck!