[ASG111]

hey guys, what do you think of the nutritional value in these kind of things?

http://www3.telus.net/public/tw2110/May17/12.jpg

This is supposedly their nutritional breakdown

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/mr-freeze-freeze-pop-freeze-jumbo-371245

and somebody on a forum said the following ...

"See those "Mr. Freeze" things?

They are LIQUID DEATH IN A TUBE.

Please think twice before you load up your freezer with those horrible things and give them to your kids thinking they are a harmless treat.

Give them an orange or apple. Pour some juice into a ice-cube tray, ANYTHING but the high high pure liquid sugar and food colour and artificial flavour that is a Mr. Freeze.

I don't like that I have to say this, but if a SINGLE person inclined to buy those things for kids stops and gives themselves a forehead-whack and a "what was I THINKING!?!" realization, it will have been worth it.

If you must keep treats around, consider the ice cream or chocolate bars... the pure liquid sugar in those Mr. Freeze is an express ticket to adult onset diabetes."


For all those that are knowledgeable in nutrition, do you think what he is saying is true? Sugar is only 23g out of the 150g and 100g of calories. I mean, it is not THAT bad to the form that it will cause diabetes, will it? The things is i've been eating these for a long time and a close friend's parents of mine took concern after sawing the above post, and send it to me and suggest that I refund them. I don't want to disrespect her but I just want to know the details before taking further actions.

Is what the poster saying true? thanks

[Conan O'Brien Sex Video]

i wouldn't eat that.... it's all sugar with no nutrition

[XtC-604]

zzz modern people are far too caught up with this nutritional bullshit, the 23g of sugar will be quickly worked off by a child today, unless of course the child sits in one spot all day playing a game while eating that stuff. With summer quickly coming, the amount of sweat a child produces and energy used while playing outside is more than enough to burn those measly 23g of sugar

[SkinnyPupp]

For all those that are knowledgeable in nutrition, do you think what he is saying is true? Sugar is only 23g out of the 150g and 100g of calories.

It's not 100g of calories, it's 100 kcalories. Carbohydrates are 4 kcal per 1g. So 25g of sugar = 100 kcalories.

Feeding your kids stuff like these all the time is borderline child abuse. I have to pay the price for the rest of my life for all the junk I ate as a kid, and I'm sure many are in the same boat.

And the amount of calories is not the relevant part, it's the type of nutrition you are giving them. Yes kids can burn calories, but what you are doing is giving them huge blood sugar spikes all the time. That is fucking with their hormones in a very bad way.

[XtC-604]

It's not 100g of calories, it's 100 kcalories. Carbohydrates are 4 kcal per 1g. So 25g of sugar = 100 kcalories.

Feeding your kids stuff like these all the time is borderline child abuse. I have to pay the price for the rest of my life for all the junk I ate as a kid, and I'm sure many are in the same boat.

And the amount of calories is not the relevant part, it's the type of nutrition you are giving them. Yes kids can burn calories, but what you are doing is giving them huge blood sugar spikes all the time. That is fucking with their hormones in a very bad way. The article is correct, but not exactly in the way they think it is.

the huge blood sugar spike supplies are used up so fast by kids, let me find the article on the amount of calories a kid burns in 1hour of play time, with that being said, i'm not saying they should eat this stuff instead of drinking water or eating a proper meal, but having 1 or 2 a day won't hurt

[ASG111]

It's not 100g of calories, it's 100 kcalories. Carbohydrates are 4 kcal per 1g. So 25g of sugar = 100 kcalories.

Feeding your kids stuff like these all the time is borderline child abuse. I have to pay the price for the rest of my life for all the junk I ate as a kid, and I'm sure many are in the same boat.

And the amount of calories is not the relevant part, it's the type of nutrition you are giving them. Yes kids can burn calories, but what you are doing is giving them huge blood sugar spikes all the time. That is fucking with their hormones in a very bad way.

Hey Skinnypup, what about if this was eaten by a late adult like, 19-25 age, would this be any different than feeding it to kids?

[SizzleChest]

a can of pop is worse than one of these things. for me though, the issue is teaching your kids that these are not the types of food that should be consumed frequently. when i was coming up, my folks fed me a lot of crap and to this day, i still have a hard time moderating my junk-food intake. i'm getting better at keeping away the bad stuff, but if i bring it home, it's not very long before there's nothing left. at my worst, i polished off a full box (36) of big turk's in 3 days.

[LiquidTurbo]

When I was a kid I loved those kinds.. aren't they sweetened with HFCS?? No wonder they were addicting.

Looking back though.. I am ashamed at myself. If I knew what I knew now I would never touch those things.

I wonder if in 20 years, I'll look back at the same way of the things I'm eating now... perceiving it to be healthy.

Also, eating that amount of coloring can't be that good for you. The good old days man... my favorite color was blue and white! haha.

[the_rickster]

if mr freeze is liquid death in a tube, what the hell is coca-cola?


140cal
45mg sodium
39 g sugar

[Meowjin]

It's not 100g of calories, it's 100 kcalories. Carbohydrates are 4 kcal per 1g. So 25g of sugar = 100 kcalories.

Feeding your kids stuff like these all the time is borderline child abuse. I have to pay the price for the rest of my life for all the junk I ate as a kid, and I'm sure many are in the same boat.

And the amount of calories is not the relevant part, it's the type of nutrition you are giving them. Yes kids can burn calories, but what you are doing is giving them huge blood sugar spikes all the time. That is fucking with their hormones in a very bad way.

fuck it's a kid, let them have their sweets once in a while.

[SizzleChest]

Also, eating that amount of coloring can't be that good for you. The good old days man... my favorite color was blue and white! haha.

remember screaming saucers?

[hal0g0dv2]

a can of pop is worse than one of these things. for me though, the issue is teaching your kids that these are not the types of food that should be consumed frequently. when i was coming up, my folks fed me a lot of crap and to this day, i still have a hard time moderating my junk-food intake. i'm getting better at keeping away the bad stuff, but if i bring it home, it's not very long before there's nothing left. at my worst, i polished off a full box (36) of big turk's in 3 days.

dude that is nutty lol

[CP.AR]

if mr freeze is liquid death in a tube, what the hell is coca-cola?


140cal
45mg sodium
39 g sugar

140Cal.

for calories lower and upper case C makes a differece :)

[LiquidTurbo]

A can of pop is just as bad. I suppose a freezie once in a while (maybe a few times in the summer months) can't be harmful?

[DC5-S]

fuck it's a kid, let them have their sweets once in a while.

its okay once in a while but not too often.. and jumbo ones are a lot worse then normal sized ones there like 3x as big

[vafanculo]

Kinda OT but how bad is gelato/frozen yogurt? I seem to be having one or the other 3x per week lately
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[twitchyzero]

and slushies are much better?

[Meowjin]

Kinda OT but how bad is gelato/frozen yogurt? I seem to be having one or the other 3x per week lately
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make homemade.

I dont have a recipe on me, but I've made some by accident with peaches and it's possibly the best thing ive ever made.

[Gumby]

140Cal.

for calories lower and upper case C makes a differece :)
Huh? What's the diff between C and c when it comes to calories?

[SkinnyPupp]

fuck it's a kid, let them have their sweets once in a while.
Once in a while is fine. But then you have a can of Coke once in a while. Then some candy once in a while. Then some tim hortons once in a while. Then some chocolate bars once in a while. Then some fries once in a while. Then a bag of chips once in a while. Then cereal every morning, and rice and potatoes every night. All of a sudden "once in a while" becomes huge blood sugar spikes every day, then comes shitty insulin sensetivity, then comes metabolic syndrome and adult onset diabetes.

[gdoh]

give them chocolate milk instead =]

[vafanculo]

make homemade.

I dont have a recipe on me, but I've made some by accident with peaches and it's possibly the best thing ive ever made.

That's not a bad idea, but I just eat tubs of plain yogurt at home. This whole spike of frozen yogurt is usually the result of a stroll around the beach type thing with the wife or family.
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[Meowjin]

Once in a while is fine. But then you have a can of Coke once in a while. Then some candy once in a while. Then some tim hortons once in a while. Then some chocolate bars once in a while. Then some fries once in a while. Then a bag of chips once in a while. Then cereal every morning, and rice and potatoes every night. All of a sudden "once in a while" becomes huge blood sugar spikes every day, then comes shitty insulin sensetivity, then comes metabolic syndrome and adult onset diabetes.

come on man, be real. Not every parent is a dumb fuck. I was raised to eat shit loads of vegetables, and meats. It all comes to cultural background. You probably had a lazy mom that fed you mcdonalds every day.

[LiquidTurbo]

Once in a while is fine. But then you have a can of Coke once in a while. Then some candy once in a while. Then some tim hortons once in a while. Then some chocolate bars once in a while. Then some fries once in a while. Then a bag of chips once in a while. Then cereal every morning, and rice and potatoes every night. All of a sudden "once in a while" becomes huge blood sugar spikes every day, then comes shitty insulin sensetivity, then comes metabolic syndrome and adult onset diabetes.

Nice slippery slope fallacy:thumbsup:.

[Meowjin]

That's not a bad idea, but I just eat tubs of plain yogurt at home. This whole spike of frozen yogurt is usually the result of a stroll around the beach type thing with the wife or family.
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ok what I actually made was sorbet.

It's very very easy to make. You could google a recipe.

[xzman]

nutritional value and mr freeze really don't belong in the same sentence. it's like ordering the combo meal at mickey d's. not really a meal:p

[unit]

type 2 diabetes is a new disease, and whats newer is that its now found in young children.
people crave these kinds of foods and its a problem!

[CP.AR]

Huh? What's the diff between C and c when it comes to calories?

cal is calories
Cal is kilocalories = kcal

[misteranswer]

Nice slippery slope fallacy:thumbsup:.

They're a gateway drug.

[SkinnyPupp]

come on man, be real. Not every parent is a dumb fuck. I was raised to eat shit loads of vegetables, and meats. It all comes to cultural background. You probably had a lazy mom that fed you mcdonalds every day.
Well just because you had good parents, doesn't mean we all did. And with so many people getting fatter and having more issues with metabolic syndrome and diabetes, it's clear that more and more parents are of the lazy variety.

And you're right, I did have a mom that fed me junk food all the time. That's why I am speaking from experience. I know you were expecting to insult me with that little quip...

The 'slippery slope fallacy' isn't fallacy at all, it's reality. It's more common with poorer families, but that's not exactly an excuse. But to deny reality is the biggest form of ignorance you could possibly have.

I'm glad you were raised eating good food (really, I am) but we're not talking about you in particular, or me. We're talking about the general public at large. Good parents, shitty parents, and all in between.

If you can continue the discussion without attempting to insult people, please do!

[Death2Theft]

I sure do love me some g-force slurpees!

[LiquidTurbo]

Well just because you had good parents, doesn't mean we all did. And with so many people getting fatter and having more issues with metabolic syndrome and diabetes, it's clear that more and more parents are of the lazy variety.

And you're right, I did have a mom that fed me junk food all the time. That's why I am speaking from experience. I know you were expecting to insult me with that little quip...

The 'slippery slope fallacy' isn't fallacy at all, it's reality. It's more common with poorer families, but that's not exactly an excuse. But to deny reality is the biggest form of ignorance you could possibly have.

I'm glad you were raised eating good food (really, I am) but we're not talking about you in particular, or me. We're talking about the general public at large. Good parents, shitty parents, and all in between.

If you can continue the discussion without attempting to insult people, please do!

No from what you said, its definitely a slippery slope fallacy. Don't fail me because I'm right.

It goes like:
1. Event X has occurred (or might occur).
2. Therefore event Y will inevitably happen.

You said Freezies are terrible because they leads to McDonalds and Tim Hortons and pasta and potatoes!!:\

I had Freezies every year in the summer maybe 5-6 times in the summer at picnics etc as a treat. My parents never took me to McDonalds or Tim Hortons ever (thankfully.. I only went to those places on my own as a teen because everyone hungout/ate there :D)

So the problem therefore isn't Freezies, its shitty parenting. Indeed soft drinks are a much bigger problem.... and contribute far more to diabetes than Mr. Freezes. your time would probably be better spent on attacking them rather then Freezies... according to your logic it's far more child abusive to be drinking coke.

In today's society, freezies are treats. Coke/slurpies is a drink. KFC and Pizza Pockets and large orders of fries and gravy are meals. Big difference in consumption. Kids drink Mountain Dew like its fucking water. So again, the problem is not the Freezies, it's shitty parenting.

Regardless, interesting discussion thus far.

[Meowjin]

Well just because you had good parents, doesn't mean we all did. And with so many people getting fatter and having more issues with metabolic syndrome and diabetes, it's clear that more and more parents are of the lazy variety.

And you're right, I did have a mom that fed me junk food all the time. That's why I am speaking from experience. I know you were expecting to insult me with that little quip...

The 'slippery slope fallacy' isn't fallacy at all, it's reality. It's more common with poorer families, but that's not exactly an excuse. But to deny reality is the biggest form of ignorance you could possibly have.

I'm glad you were raised eating good food (really, I am) but we're not talking about you in particular, or me. We're talking about the general public at large. Good parents, shitty parents, and all in between.

If you can continue the discussion without attempting to insult people, please do!

Tax incentives to learn cooking would be a good idea.

I believe that people can eat grains its just that too many people are eatting processed foods, out of a box and its ruining their health.

[SkinnyPupp]

No from what you said, its definitely a slippery slope fallacy. Don't fail me because I'm right.

It goes like:
1. Event X has occurred (or might occur).
2. Therefore event Y will inevitably happen.

You said Freezies are terrible because they leads to McDonalds and Tim Hortons and pasta and potatoes!!:\

I had Freezies every year in the summer maybe 5-6 times in the summer at picnics etc as a treat. My parents never took me to McDonalds or Tim Hortons ever (thankfully.. I only went to those places on my own as a teen because everyone hungout/ate there :D)

So the problem therefore isn't Freezies, its shitty parenting. Indeed soft drinks are a much bigger problem.... and contribute far more to diabetes than Mr. Freezes. your time would probably be better spent on attacking them rather then Freezies... according to your logic it's far more child abusive to be drinking coke.

In today's society, freezies are treats. Coke/slurpies is a drink. KFC and Pizza Pockets and large orders of fries and gravy are meals. Big difference in consumption. Kids drink Mountain Dew like its fucking water. So again, the problem is not the Freezies, it's shitty parenting.

Regardless, interesting discussion thus far.
:facepalm:

I didn't say it "leads to" other junk food. I just said it all adds up. One day you might have one junk food, another day you have another junk food. Having occasional junk food every day is no longer 'once in a while' is it? Then you have all the other junk food that gets ingested when it's not considered junk food - pop, etc. Plus you have the unhealthy breakfasts and dinners people eat, and it adds up even more.

And yes, it's shitty parenting. That is my entire fucking point.

[SizzleChest]

i think we are all to blame as a society. we demand cheap and fast. when those demands are met and we get a product that is tasty as well, it's pretty obvious why our health is slipping. that and the fact that the negative results of poor eating don't become obvious for most people until they hit their late 30s and 40s.