[Amuse]

More people should drive a manual car (well at least in Vancouver). It is much more satisfying and fun than an automatic or a tiptronic when you're driving and cruising around.

I learned driving manual half a year ago. At first, I didn't like it and was nervous. But once you get the hang of it, it is pretty fun. I would like to see more girls drive manual as well.

So anybody else agree?

[Culture_Vulture]

Only if I'm cruising around.
Honestly, having to drive a stickshift 7 in the morning to get to work in a mountain of cars and traffic lights isn't my thing.

[TOPEC]

people r lazy, thats y automatics were invented.

[Redlines_Daily]

I think its so sexy when a girl can drive stick

[d1]

Disagree. Crappy drivers + manual = :fuuuuu

It really wouldn't matter to me if more people drove manual or not - them driving a manual has no affect on my enjoyment of mine.

[LiquidTurbo]

Disagree. People already have enough problems just with steer, brake, and gas!! :)

[124Y]

I think it depends on what people use their cars for.
Automotive enthusiasts like us will have no problem agreeing with you that driving a manual is more fun. However, not everyone in the world is an automotive enthusiast nor should they be one. Our priorities and interests are different in life and there are lots of people out there who sees their car as a tool for transportation. Driving a manual requires more work than driving an automatic and because "fun" is subjective, there will be people out there who does not want to drive a manual car.
IMO we shouldn't be expecting everyone around us to enjoy what's "fun" for us. If they want to relax in their boat-like lexus and listen to classical music without shifting one gear, let them be. That's their way of enjoying the drive.

[jtanner_]

^ Couldn't agree more.

On a side note I think I saw you two days ago downtown... or in E van... rocking different rims than your sig?

[alex.w *//]

imo make all sports cars manual

its good honda has already did it to the civic si

[VK79]

Off-peak time when its sunny and you just woke up at 2pm on a Sat, yeah for sure I take the 6sp car.

Early morning at 8.00am stuck in traffic and its raining + you are half dead crawling to work.... a comfy AT on the softest suspension possible please.

Tons of situations where a MT>AT and AT>MT. Personally, I would take a Twin clutch F1 style box for my next car.

[mb_]

I'm gonna agree with Culture_Vulture and 124Y. Really depends the situation is, you wouldn't wanna be changing gears every 5 seconds in rush hour traffic would you?

[skylinergtr]

seriously my BMW is automatic, and my Jeep is standard (it should be the other way around). Currently i've been driving my Jeep for 5 months because my BMW is currently being worked on. It really depends on your mood of driving. Waking up in the morning, and traffic make me dislike driving standard very much. I am too the point where i miss my automatic, but ofcourse there are days where standard is too awesome. Seriously, triptronic in the new generation BMW's are the best of both worlds, but if it was any sports car. Standard only.

[TypeRNammer]

Before back in the highschool days people would make a big deal about a person driving stick or not.

To me it doesn't make a difference when cruising.
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[twitchyzero]

imo make all sports cars manual

its good honda has already did it to the civic si

civic Si is not a sports car

[mj.rx7]

I personally just wish there were more cars that were standard for sale. I have found the majority of cars are automatic and being that I love standard it sucks. However I do agree that people should be able to choose which ever they prefer.

[LiquidTurbo]

I think it depends on what people use their cars for.
Automotive enthusiasts like us will have no problem agreeing with you that driving a manual is more fun. However, not everyone in the world is an automotive enthusiast nor should they be one. Our priorities and interests are different in life and there are lots of people out there who sees their car as a tool for transportation. Driving a manual requires more work than driving an automatic and because "fun" is subjective, there will be people out there who does not want to drive a manual car.
IMO we shouldn't be expecting everyone around us to enjoy what's "fun" for us. If they want to relax in their boat-like lexus and listen to classical music without shifting one gear, let them be. That's their way of enjoying the drive.

QFT

[jlenko]

I personally just wish there were more cars that were standard for sale. I have found the majority of cars are automatic and being that I love standard it sucks. However I do agree that people should be able to choose which ever they prefer.

So buy the car and swap in a manual! It's not rocket science. And swap in a better motor while you're at it...

[shenmecar]

That's like saying more people should take the bus. Yeah, thanks but no thanks.

And a lot of high power cars are automatic. AMG's. BMW M Division. GT-RAWR. Its not a choice anymore when car manufacturers don't think you can shift faster than what they can program the computer to shift.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

stick is really fun, full control of the car..that is if u actually know how drive



auto is for pussies

[Pt20]

"auto is for pussies.." Gotta love that.
Maybe some people just simply want to get from A to B without worrying about clutching and shifting.
Having said that, I myself drive a stick, but it's easy to see why people would get an auto.

[Lomac]

As has been stated, there are times when you want both styles of transmission. Let me tell you, driving in rush hour when you're barely crawling along while constantly playing with a heavy race clutch sucks. I did it for a year... never again. But even tonight when I went out for a drive, there were times while I was in some twisties that I was happy I was driving a stick... but then there were other times that I wish it was merely an automatic and I could just sit back and not have to worry about constantly shifting.

Meh, it's a personal preference. My mom knows how to drive a stick and actually prefers it over a slushbox. My dad, on the other hand, could care less about which one he uses. In fact, he'd rather drive an automatic. I fail to see how that makes him a "pussy," though... :rolleyes:

[Milhouse]

I think its so sexy when a girl can drive stick
+1
If a girl knows how to properly drive stick, it can be sexy.
It's nice to see them bang through the gears.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEfrgSw5Q5E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3A65TAxyvQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=eRA7VUBDWnk

[tofu1413]

50/50.

depends on what car really.. but i'd take a stick over an auto.

[ajax]

When I got my car I wanted 5spd but after driving to bcit 8 in the morning then back home at 5 made me change my mind. Also occasionally getting onto the Port Mann around those times too.
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[Levitron]

I enjoy driving stick for the reason that it helps me connect with my driving more. Driving stick also forces you to drive in a more engaged manner.

[DasHooch]

Stop and go too hard for a manual? Complete bull. You're driving like a fool. Pace yourself, keep the car at speed by allowing a decent space in front of you and judging your speed based on the 5 cars ahead of you and not just staring at one rear bumper.

It doesn't always work, but I've made some way smoother drives through backed-up highway for myself AND the cars behind me. It's riskier in the left lane because everyone wants to be in the left lane, so people will cut into the space you leave ahead; but in the right lane it can be oh so smooth.

[CC2]

I enjoy driving stick but it rush hour traffic I love having my auto.

[hk20000]

I just went down to the States yesterday and had a 2 hour border wait.

AT please.

[LYC]

when i was younger both my parents cars were standard so i didn't really have a choice. even now all of my cars have been manual and i wouldn't have it any other way.

i do agree though that being in bumper to bumper traffic on the highway in the morning blows. its even worse when your car has a heavy ass clutch.

[Death2Theft]

nsfw link
http://www.bikinidrivingschool.com/
/endthread thx la

[typ.]

^ Wow.

[twitchyzero]

once in a while threads pop up on RS claiming how manual is for real men or how FF cars are for pussies

[Adrenaline Rush]

More people should drive a manual car (well at least in Vancouver). It is much more satisfying and fun than an automatic or a tiptronic when you're driving and cruising around.

I learned driving manual half a year ago. At first, I didn't like it and was nervous. But once you get the hang of it, it is pretty fun. I would like to see more girls drive manual as well.

So anybody else agree?

Like others have said, the majority of people aren't interested in driving being satisfying or fun - they're interested in going from point A to point B.

Also, fewer and fewer vehicles are being produced with manuals. Out of all the vehicles that are sold, only 10% have manuals, and that number is probably going to decrease. Even new Ferrari's don't have a manual option any more (458) and Lambo is probably going to follow suit.

I definitely prefer manual myself but the pattern with car manufacturers seems to be towards getting rid of them in the future...

[Greenstoner]

http://www.bikinidrivingschool.com/
/endthread thx la

so many to fap on here.. shiet

[kookoobird88]

auto=steering
manual= driving

[civic_rice]

standard is un and all, but day to day driving it can be a pain. espicaially if u have a 6 puck clutch and heay pressure plate making it clutch on or off lol

[Noizz]

Off topic but, more people should rideeeeeee

- dragging knees, ludicrous speeds, teeth smashing acceleration
- none of that one braking pedal nonsense, when you ride you control both front/rear independent brakes
- WOT clutchless shifting
- traffic is a breeze with a buttery smooth straight cut gearbox and lane-splitting as an option

I urge anyone who is an enthusiast about motor sports to consider riding, take it to Mission and you'll be speechless when you're braking so hard entering turn one that your front forks chatter and rear wheel hops holding on to your dear life after doing the straight at 240km/hr.

[orange7]

more people should drift. :thumbsup:

[crazyazn]

I wouldn't say more people should drive manual...but I would 200% support it if it were made mandatory to take the driving tests in a standard transmission car.

[Amuse]

nsfw link
http://www.bikinidrivingschool.com/
/endthread thx la

Nice, driving a manual lambo in heels.

[Death2Theft]

If using inferior technology is how you get your jollies off you should consider riding a unicycle into on coming traffic down granville.
Off topic but, more people should rideeeeeee

- dragging knees, ludicrous speeds, teeth smashing acceleration
- none of that one braking pedal nonsense, when you ride you control both front/rear independent brakes
- WOT clutchless shifting
- traffic is a breeze with a buttery smooth straight cut gearbox and lane-splitting as an option

I urge anyone who is an enthusiast about motor sports to consider riding, take it to Mission and you'll be speechless when you're braking so hard entering turn one that your front forks chatter and rear wheel hops holding on to your dear life after doing the straight at 240km/hr.

[mj.rx7]

So buy the car and swap in a manual! It's not rocket science. And swap in a better motor while you're at it...

As great as this would be not everyone can afford to do this lol.

[jlenko]

As great as this would be not everyone can afford to do this lol.

Pfft.. then they better not bother wasting money trying to mod their car...

I swapped a better engine with a 5 speed into my car for $800. It can be done on the cheap, but you have to do your homework..

[ajax]

Pfft.. then they better not bother wasting money trying to mod their car...

I swapped a better engine with a 5 speed into my car for $800. It can be done on the cheap, but you have to do your homework..

whoa! your cavalier must've been fast, it even looked like it!
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[hotong]

I enjoy driving stick but it rush hour traffic I love having my auto.

same I hate driving stick in rush hour.

[jlenko]

whoa! your cavalier must've been fast, it even looked like it!
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Wasn't a Crapalier, douchebag.

And congratulations, you're the 1,000,002nd person to make a Cavalier joke in response to one of my posts. How original! :rolleyes:

[AzNightmare]

This is a dumb idea as many others have stated already.
Whether others drive stick or not has no effect on me.

Actually, if people already have problems driving auto,
and accidents occur more often, it WILL effect me.
Too many traffic jams.

[Phil@rise]

I prefer stick on the street and slush box on the trail.
I believe that your license should have transmission type restrictions on it as well. If you learn to drive an auto then that's what your stuck with till your tested on a standard. Sort of like a graduated license thing.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

makes a lot more sense

i dont see the point as one of the member pointed out, to make driving manual mandatory at the road test. If you pass, continue driving auto after you pass your test? doesnt make much sense does it.

[jpark]

driving standard is always fun but i prefer auto in traffic which i go through like everyday... -_-

[NeoDestinyZ]

I think driving a standard is good in any cases because you can do so much more with it in different situations, I don't have problems going through traffic or bumper to bumper. In fact it's almost second nature to me, even though I have a short gear ratio which is good, it keeps me alert and aware of things around me. Also driving a standard in a test doesn't have to be mandatory, but I believe that automatic people nowadays that drives there car can't even tell how they're car REV like anymore or mechanically sound. Which in my case is important, also people need to understand the concept of a Manuel transmission and what it does to the car. I also think they need to understand RPM's a little bit more and when your car should shift, so you know when your car is going way too fast. You won't have to brake so suddenly and have no control over it. It's also great on gas mileage and less wear on the transmission and practically if you know how, you can basically drive anything on the road as of today.

[Great68]

I've had to explain to people (Who have driven automatics their whole life) what "1" and "2" on their shifters were for...

Seriously, there's just not enough driver education anymore.

[Energy]

Once when I downshifted from 3rd to 2nd I had a friend who has never driven standard tell me that my car sounded like it was hurting lol.

[crazyazn]

If it were mandatory to take the exam in a standard less stupid people who aren't very alert would pass the test.

[sonick]

Once when I downshifted from 3rd to 2nd I had a friend who has never driven standard tell me that my car sounded like it was hurting lol.

Reminds me auto-driving friends I have who never rev over 4,000 rpm thinking it might hurt their engine.

[q0192837465]

Car dealers won't be happy if driving tests r harder than it is.

[Tapioca]

Automatics these days are fast and they have the same fuel economy as manuals (in some cases, even better.)

I don't care about that.

The bottom line is that I don't want a computer telling the car when to shift. Driving standard is about being in total control of my car that is why I prefer driving a standard.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

not really, ur regular auto tranny thats found in a camery or a mazda 3 does not shift fast at all.


the one AUDi or bmw uses SMG/DSG those shifts fast

[Mancini]

Manual transmission is where it's at.

Even driving home in heavy long weekend traffic yesterday I thought to myself "even now I wouldn't trade this for an automatic".

[jpark]

I've had to explain to people (Who have driven automatics their whole life) what "1" and "2" on their shifters were for...

Seriously, there's just not enough driver education anymore.

this reminds me of some kids i know who own tiptronic automatic mazda 3 etc. and think its the exact same as manual just cuz its tiptronic :facepalm:

[Energy]

I figure standard is like a sport. You have to practice a lot to get good at it and when you finally get it it becomes rewarding. Too bad there's not much teamwork involved.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

this reminds me of some kids i know who own tiptronic automatic mazda 3 etc. and think its the exact same as manual just cuz its tiptronic :facepalm:

dude, every kid on the block that has an auto with their so called paddle shift thinks they shift like an F1 racer now


no joke

[NeoDestinyZ]

Also good for resale value. Looks like asian_XL has some issues.

[Tapioca]

dude, every kid on the block that has an auto with their so called paddle shift thinks they shift like an F1 racer now


A manumatic is poor substitute for a true standard. Part of the experience of driving a manual is the clutch.

It's not maschismo talking - it's about feel, about the experience of driving. If I wanted to "tune out", I would take public transit with my music player(which is what I do 5 days a week, and sometimes on the weekends).

[Great68]

Go anywhere outside of North America, and manuals probably make up 90% of what's on the road.

Manuals are also a HELL of a lot easier and cheaper to repair and maintain.

[tofu1413]

dude, every kid on the block that has an auto with their so called paddle shift thinks they shift like an F1 racer now


no joke

completely agreed. some kid told me his lancer gts would be faster than my car.. because of his paddle shifters.


boy was he wrong.

[!Yaminashi]

Really? Another auto vs manual thread?

[JSALES]

i think people who are able to drive manual are more safe on the road, you're more alert when driving compared to an automatic.

[Si]

Tip-tronic seems slow as hell sometimes (Mazda3 and A4)



Go anywhere outside of North America, and manuals probably make up 90% of what's on the road.

Ha, friend told me he met a few chicks in europe who didn't know how to drive auto :D

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

tip tronic is for posers, not drivers

:)

[tofu1413]

Tip-tronic seems slow as hell sometimes (Mazda3 and A4)





Ha, friend told me he met a few chicks in europe who didn't know how to drive auto :D



apparently lots of euro chicks drive standard... actually met a couple in person, they drive stick and swear by it. :D

[punkwax]

I prefer manual. Much more "feel" with a standard transmission.

I do miss it... however, must agree (now) that auto in rush hour BS ain't so bad.

[J____]

I think its so sexy when a girl can drive stick

then you need to get the heck out of north america. Every girl in europe/asia that can drive knows how to drive stick. Only lazy and spoiled girls here are accustomed to auto.

[FerrariEnzo]

it all depends on what your driving..

at the VERY least, SEMI-Auto is the most auto i will ever go...

but Luxury Cars shouldnt be standard... BIG SUVs shouldnt be standard....

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^


rode S63 AMG, and it was seamlessly smooth and fast shifting


cant complain
:thumbsup:

[unit]

i dunno if i can call driving manual "fun".
just something i prefer because it offers more control

[sonick]

^ depends on the gearbox, maybe. The Miata gearbox is just fun, like a video game. Short, precise throw, snicks into gear cleanly.

[Noizz]

If using inferior technology is how you get your jollies off you should consider riding a unicycle into on coming traffic down granville.

Good for you :thumbsup:

A modern day sportbike has more technology in it that your car

[Zulu]

Clutch + Stick = shifting.

Other stuff = sitting in a box while a computer drives for you.

[!Yaminashi]

i dunno if i can call driving manual "fun".
just something i prefer because it offers more control

What do you mean? Apparently only real men drive standards:haha:

[twitchyzero]

Also good for resale value.
orly

[shenmecar]

tip tronic is for posers, not drivers

:)

some tiptronic also take the longest time to shift. you'll hit the rev limiter before it shifts.

[Death2Theft]

Yet all the technology still wont allow you to corner faster under real world conditions with dirt and uneven surfaces than the average car :thumbsup:
Good for you :thumbsup:

A modern day sportbike has more technology in it that your car

[//RacingSpirit>>]

Yet all the technology still wont allow you to corner faster under real world conditions with dirt and uneven surfaces than the average car :thumbsup:

real world condition + average car = driving in city = not very fast at all

throw in straight line and corners into the equation, 2 wheels is faster...

[JSALES]

in my opinion, automatic was considered a luxury back in the day. most people back in the day had to drive standard

[skylinergtr]

hit lots of uphill traffic today in my car. was really not feeling like driving manual.

[JSALES]

i know if i lived in california, i would not want a manual car. traffic there is just too crazy