Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events The off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum. |  |
05-25-2010, 12:47 PM
|
#1 | hoppity HOP HOP
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Richmond
Posts: 1,963
Thanked 1,635 Times in 527 Posts
Failed 21 Times in 18 Posts
| Body encased in concrete in barrel, at bottom of Lake Ontario identified
It looks like all kinds of things can be found in Lake Ontario Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/813856--police-identify-body-in-the-barrel?bn=1 Police identify body in the barrel
Remains were found encased in concrete in barrel dumped in Toronto harbour
Peter Edwards
Staff Reporter
In the words of his old associates, Greater Toronto Area mobster Quang Lu was “planted lotus.”
That refers to the Asian gangland practice of murdering someone, then dropping the body at the bottom of a deep body of water, far from the light of day.
Lu, 47 — his nicknames included “The Black Ghost” and “The Bad Luck Guy” — was found encased in concrete in a barrel by police divers on Sunday in the waters of Lake Ontario off Queens Quay E. near the foot of Jarvis St.
Lu, a divorced father of two from Thornhill, went missing on Oct. 30, 2007, shortly after returning from one of his many business trips to China.
His grey BMW Z4 sports car has never been found.
“Mr. Lu is known to police — was known to police,” said Toronto police Det. Justin Vander Heyden on Tuesday.
“Mr. Lu does have ties to Asian organized crime.”
Superstitious mobsters, of whom there are many, sometimes like their victims’ bodies to be sealed in concrete and barrels because they believe their spirits can’t get out and avenge them.
After the body is placed in a barrel, concrete powder is inserted. The powder mixes with water and hardens as the body is dropped into water, sealing the body in the barrel and anchoring it under the waves.
Det. Hank Idsinga of York Regional Police said he didn’t know how Lu came by the nickname of “The Black Ghost.”
It’s more clear why some others in his milieu sometimes called him “The Bad Luck Guy.”
Lu, who had no conventional means of supporting himself, was a frequent player at Casino Niagara, and had been known to have streaks of bad fortune at the gaming tables.
Immediately after he vanished, there was talk that he had run afoul of loan sharks at the casino.
Police declined to say which organized crime group Lu belonged to or what crimes he was believed to have been involved in.
There were no outstanding arrest warrants for him at the time of his disappearance, Vander Heyden said.
“Mr. Lu did live quite a high-risk lifestyle,” Vander Heyden said.
Toronto police said on Tuesday morning that officers received very specific information that led divers to the barrel, but would not elaborate.
“It was very specific and they were looking for that barrel in that place,” Vander Heyden said.
The detective declined to comment on whether the body had been dismembered, but did say: “At this point, we are not looking for any other remains.”
Vander Heyden said Lu was not facing criminal charges at the time of his disappearance. Idsinga said Lu was identified this morning through fingerprints.
Idsinga referred to a Toronto Star story on the discovery of the barrel that noted that bodies encased in concrete are typically well preserved.
“We identified the body through fingerprints,” Idsinga said.
The 45-gallon drum that held Lu’s body was pulled from the Toronto harbour Sunday. Police divers found it in six metres of water around 11 a.m.
Lu’s watery burial is similar to that of Greater Toronto Area marijuana grower Ding Pei Xu, 30, whose body was found by divers last year.
Xu’s body was found sealed in concrete and stuffed in luggage in Lake Ontario, close to Toronto Island Airport. | |
| |
05-25-2010, 12:50 PM
|
#2 | Official Texas Ambassador
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 10,333
Thanked 5,671 Times in 1,324 Posts
Failed 416 Times in 132 Posts
|
Well, regardless of how the guy conducted his life its sad his kids have to grow up without a father Posted via RS Mobile |
| |
05-25-2010, 12:51 PM
|
#3 | I'll be good I promise.
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Korea
Posts: 1,936
Thanked 1,551 Times in 329 Posts
Failed 349 Times in 138 Posts
|
Holy crap that's brutal.
|
| |
05-25-2010, 12:55 PM
|
#4 | Banned (ABWS)
Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BC
Posts: 741
Thanked 54 Times in 41 Posts
Failed 1,005 Times in 138 Posts
|
lol that's why u don't play god...u die just as fast as any body else
|
| |
05-25-2010, 12:59 PM
|
#5 | I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 7,760
Thanked 375 Times in 181 Posts
Failed 159 Times in 63 Posts
|
hope the gang didnt get his kids
__________________
Ignorance is bliss
How I wish I can remain ignorant, why do I know so much?
|
| |
05-25-2010, 01:00 PM
|
#6 | It's like going crazy when you're already nuts
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,969
Thanked 3,195 Times in 830 Posts
Failed 90 Times in 38 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by fishing666 lol that's why u don't play god...u die just as fast as any body else | |
| |
05-25-2010, 01:10 PM
|
#7 | resident Oil Guru
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 7,716
Thanked 10,457 Times in 1,794 Posts
Failed 1,065 Times in 267 Posts
| |
| |
05-25-2010, 01:15 PM
|
#8 | SFICC-03*
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: richmond
Posts: 8,898
Thanked 3,539 Times in 1,390 Posts
Failed 164 Times in 85 Posts
|
is that jet li?
|
| |
05-25-2010, 01:29 PM
|
#9 | ESKETIT
Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Shambhala
Posts: 23,360
Thanked 9,694 Times in 2,326 Posts
Failed 997 Times in 240 Posts
|
dam he dissapeared a day after my bday
|
| |
05-25-2010, 02:50 PM
|
#10 | Need to Seek Professional Help
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: vancouver
Posts: 1,095
Thanked 2,237 Times in 251 Posts
Failed 103 Times in 22 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by unit is that jet li? | Chow Yun Fat from god of gamblers.
|
| |
05-25-2010, 03:01 PM
|
#11 | SFICC-03*
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: richmond
Posts: 8,898
Thanked 3,539 Times in 1,390 Posts
Failed 164 Times in 85 Posts
|
i mean the dead guy
|
| |
05-25-2010, 03:27 PM
|
#12 | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 10,515
Thanked 3,616 Times in 1,408 Posts
Failed 142 Times in 70 Posts
|
^
No, it's not Jet Li.
__________________ Do Not Put Aftershave on Your Balls. -604CEFIRO Looks like I'm gonna have some hot sex again tonight...OOPS i got the 6 pack. that wont last me the night, I better go back and get the 24 pack! -Turbo E kinda off topic but obama is a dilf - miss_crayon Honest to fucking Christ the easiest way to get a married woman in the mood is clean the house and do the laundry.....I've been with the same girl almost 17 years, ask me how I know. - quasi |
| |
05-25-2010, 03:29 PM
|
#13 | :: Sells McLarens, Not tofu :okay: ::
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: vancouver
Posts: 10,767
Thanked 11,841 Times in 3,338 Posts
Failed 211 Times in 89 Posts
|
hmm.. wonder if its some italians that did this..
i mean they kinda started the idea of filling a guys foot with concrete and throwing them in..
__________________
13' Nissan DBA-R35 GT-R Black Ed - Black met. - "Sophia"
90' Honda EF Civic HB // 04' Honda Pilot Granite
- The Drinker of Many Many Coffees @ McLaren Vancouver
|
| |
05-25-2010, 03:38 PM
|
#14 | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 39,205
Thanked 15,940 Times in 6,484 Posts
Failed 2,158 Times in 740 Posts
|
Best way to hide a body imo Posted via RS Mobile |
| |
05-25-2010, 04:23 PM
|
#15 | In RS I Trust
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mission
Posts: 20,777
Thanked 17,661 Times in 4,345 Posts
Failed 1,037 Times in 352 Posts
|
rookies. They just need concrete shoes so the fish and marine life can eat the body and leave less trace evidence. a concrete drum will last forever dammit and will give it more of a chance to get caught.
If they want to conceal it better at least put it in way more then 6m of water.
|
| |
05-25-2010, 04:25 PM
|
#16 | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 6,803
Thanked 91 Times in 38 Posts
Failed 17 Times in 6 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by El Bastardo Well, regardless of how the guy conducted his life its sad his kids have to grow up without a father Posted via RS Mobile | At 47 and from China, his kids are probably already in their 20s.
|
| |
05-25-2010, 04:50 PM
|
#17 | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CELICAland
Posts: 25,679
Thanked 10,395 Times in 3,918 Posts
Failed 1,390 Times in 625 Posts
|
more and different information from the Toronto Sun Quote:
Police believed millionaire loan shark Quang Lu was murdered shortly after he disappeared in October 2007. The discovery of a body in a barrel on Sunday proved the prediction by police specializing in Asian organized crime was correct...
...Toronto homicide Det. Hank Idsinga believes Lu, 47, a divorced father of one child, was dead before the concrete was poured over his body. He said the barrel was right beside the breakwall in about seven metres of water...
...in 2008, sources described Lu to the Toronto Sun as the largest loan shark in and around the Niagara Falls casino. Before legal casinos opened, he operated gaming houses in Toronto’s Chinatowns, police sources said.
...“I can tell you the remains were well preserved,” Vander Heyden added.
He said the good state of the remains allowed pathologists and forensic experts to quickly identify the victim.
Vander Heyden said while Lu’s involvement in organized crime is likely behind his murder, detectives intend to keep an “open mind” to other possibilities.
He said Lu’s silver 2004, two-door BMW Z4 convertible with Ontario plates AVBC 138 is still missing.
A police source told the Sun in 2008 that Lu claimed Niagara Casino as part of his underworld lending domain. The source said there was an agreement which allowed Vietnamese loan sharks — Lu was Vietnamese of Chinese heritage and a Canadian citizen — to operate in Niagara while members of the Big Circle Boys, a Chinese gang, focused on gamers at other casinos.
Lu made millions through loan sharking, the source had said.
“They wanted him dead 20 years ago,” another source said.
Police said Lu was shot in the leg in the early 1990s, and was arrested in 1995 for helping operate a gaming house in a rented home, near Brimley Rd. and Sheppard Ave.
| http://www.torontosun.com/news/toron.../14086526.html |
| |  |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:43 PM. |