[orange7]

Asus, the Taiwanese computer maker best known for its inexpensive netbook PCs, has unveiled a tablet-style device that will go head-to-head with Apple (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple)'s iPad.

The Eee Pad will run Microsoft (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft)'s Windows 7 operating system, and, unlike the iPad, will feature an integrated webcam and support for Flash video technology. It will be available with a 10in or 12in display, and is expected to start at around $399 (£275) when it goes on sale early next year.

Jerry Shen, chief executive of Asus, said the Eee Pad would provide users with a "real-time cloud computing experience", and would double as a personal media player, ebook reader and compact computing device, offering around 10 hours of battery life. He showed off the device at the Computex consumer electronics conference in Taipei.

"We envision a different kind of usage scenario," he told delegates at the show. "You can be both a premier professional and a housewife."

There is growing competition in the fledgling tablet computing market. Last week, Dell unveiled the Streak, a compact touch-screen tablet running the Android operating system, while Apple has announced that it has sold more than two million iPads worldwide since launching the device first went on sale in the United States in April. It hit shops in other countries, including the UK, last Friday.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01647/ASUS-Eee-Pad-EP121_1647500c.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/7792499/Asus-unveil-Eee-Pad-iPad-killer.html

[LiquidTurbo]

Interesting. At least it has flash.

[Manic!]

and there running Intel's Core 2 Duo CULV processors. That should make them pretty fast.


http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/asus-eee-pad-official-intel-culv-processors-windows-7-and-a-1/

[ericthehalfbee]

^ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

Guess you didn't read everything at the link you provided. Here's a quote since you seem to have missed it.

At long last, the ASUS Eee Pads have arrived, but unfortunately they're just not working the way we've been imagining for all these months. We got a few minutes to toy around with the 10-inch EP101TC and 12-inch EP121, but both were barely working. And "barely" is being gracious. We can tell you that both models are incredibly well built -- they've got aluminum edges and matte back covers -- and neither was particularly heavy. The EP121 wasn't booting at all, but it was being shown off with a super sleek keyboard docking station, which will be used to turn the tablet into an ultraportable laptop of sorts. An NVIDIA Tegra-powered EP101TC was powering on, but its Windows Embedded Compact 7-based interface was still noticeably buggy, and the touchscreen quite unresponsive. The UI certainly looked attractive enough, and our swipe motions across the capacitive touchscreen were handled admirably, but ASUS definitely has a ways to go in terms of functionality. We wish we had more impressions to share, but it looks as if we'll have to wait for a less half-baked iteration to really dive in. 'Til then, feel free to peruse the gallery below and peek the video just beyond the break.

10 hour battery life with Windows 7? High performance with Intel Core 2 Duo? Can you say dreaming? You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.

Remember, HP already dropped their Slate because of poor performance with Win 7. What makes Asus think they can somehow "solve" the problems that caused HP to give up on Win 7?

[Vinny G]

^ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

10 hour battery life with Windows 7? High performance with Intel Core 2 Duo? Can you say dreaming? You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.

Remember, HP already dropped their Slate because of poor performance with Win 7. What makes Asus think they can somehow "solve" the problems that caused HP to give up on Win 7?

The current gen CULV CPUs already last 7-8 hours easily and should be MORE than enough performance for a tablet. I don't know what your definition of "fast" is but if one of the CULV CPUs can't handle what you're doing then you probably shouldn't be using a tablet to do it.

And yes, HP failed so why even bother making another tablet? Let's just all give up and hail Apple as the new king and the only people that should make tablets. :rolleyes:

[Ferra]

10 hour battery life with Windows 7? High performance with Intel Core 2 Duo? Can you say dreaming? You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.

Why not?? there are plenty of 12" ultraportable and tablet notebook in the market right now that can do 10 hours+, many of them are using the M version of intel i7/i5/i3 cpu (and fyi, an i5-540m cpu is as fast as most desktop cpu)

The bigger problem is actually on trying to fit everything together in such a small and thin package, yet still able to manufacture it at a cost the mass market will accept.

[underscore]

now THIS is a tablet worth looking into. it's actually a computer, not just an oversized media player.

[Razor Ramon HG]

^ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

Guess you didn't read everything at the link you provided. Here's a quote since you seem to have missed it.

10 hour battery life with Windows 7? High performance with Intel Core 2 Duo? Can you say dreaming? You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.

Remember, HP already dropped their Slate because of poor performance with Win 7. What makes Asus think they can somehow "solve" the problems that caused HP to give up on Win 7?

You're fucking retarded.

[twitchyzero]

asus is as notorious as apple when it comes to new trims that get released every half year...which builds on tiny incriments

[ericthehalfbee]

And yes, HP failed so why even bother making another tablet? Let's just all give up and hail Apple as the new king and the only people that should make tablets. :rolleyes:
Way to completely miss the point.

Let's see, we can make a tablet with Win 7 that'll do everything a laptop will do. Except it'll have a smaller screen, it'll be slower and less usable (no KB/mouse). So why would I buy one over a laptop?

Tablets are a niche good only for viewing content. They are useless for creating content or doing any real work. So why try to base one off a full-blown desktop OS?

HP gave up on Win 7 but they haven't given up on tablets. They're just going to use a leaner, faster and more appropriate OS.

[ericthehalfbee]

You're fucking retarded.
OMG I have been insulted on the internets. Whatever shall I do with my poor, pathetic life? Please no more swears or mommy won't let me visit RS anymore.

GOOF.

[raygunpk]

OMG I have been insulted on the internets. Whatever shall I do with my poor, pathetic life? Please no more swears or mommy won't let me visit RS anymore.

GOOF.

post of irony.

[ericthehalfbee]

Why not?? there are plenty of 12" ultraportable and tablet notebook in the market right now that can do 10 hours+, many of them are using the M version of intel i7/i5/i3 cpu (and fyi, an i5-540m cpu is as fast as most desktop cpu)
Links? I'd love you to show me a 12" portable (or a few if you know of that many) that can last 10 hours while doing somehting useful.

[eurochevy]

another retarded thing that no one will carry around with them

[hotong]

sick

[LiquidTurbo]

I lol'd.

http://i47.tinypic.com/1zg4vfn.jpg

[Manic!]

Way to completely miss the point.

Let's see, we can make a tablet with Win 7 that'll do everything a laptop will do. Except it'll have a smaller screen, it'll be slower and less usable (no KB/mouse). So why would I buy one over a laptop?

Tablets are a niche good only for viewing content. They are useless for creating content or doing any real work. So why try to base one off a full-blown desktop OS?

HP gave up on Win 7 but they haven't given up on tablets. They're just going to use a leaner, faster and more appropriate OS.

You have to think outside the box.

Connect one to a video camera and use it view , record, and control the camera.

Use it for home automation. Control all the lights, TV's audio systems and security camera's all from one place.

Mount one in a car. Use it for music GPS and video playback.

Would be great for Djing.

Might be good for rts type games.

[ForbiddenX]

^real gaming and tablets will never work right now with all the hardware limitations.

I'd get this instead of an iPad considering you could possibly do a whole lot more on this than on an iPad. You could probably even use a linux distro on it (haven't read the complete specs yet).

Apple did a really damn good job on the iPad. I played with one for a bit and it really isn't just an over sized ipod touch.

It'll probably take asus a couple tries to get it right, just like the eee pc.
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[LiquidTurbo]

^

He said RTS type games. Koreans will use this thing to play Starcraft with their fingers.. :D

[Manic!]

^ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha


10 hour battery life with Windows 7? High performance with Intel Core 2 Duo? Can you say dreaming? You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.



8 hours heavy flash surfing with a standard Intel i3.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3741/asus-u30jc-ssd/2

[LiquidTurbo]

Can you say dreaming!!

[ericthehalfbee]

Wow, an Asus laptop with a battery that has 3.36 times the capacity of the iPad (84Wh for the Asus vs 25Wh for the iPad) and it can run just as long.

That's some pretty fucking amazing efficiency there. And I suppose they're going to be able to fit this massive battery into a tablet no problem. :rolleyes:

[LiquidTurbo]

Wow, an Asus laptop with a battery that has 3.36 times the capacity of the iPad (84Wh for the Asus vs 25Wh for the iPad) and it can run just as long.

That's some pretty fucking amazing efficiency there. And I suppose they're going to be able to fit this massive battery into a tablet no problem. :rolleyes:

Shut the fuck up. You asked for an example and he fucking found you one. Then you decide to bitch about something else. :gtfo:

[twitchyzero]

Wow, an Asus laptop with a battery that has 3.36 times the capacity of the iPad (84Wh for the Asus vs 25Wh for the iPad) and it can run just as long.

That's some pretty fucking amazing efficiency there. And I suppose they're going to be able to fit this massive battery into a tablet no problem. :rolleyes:

u mad?

[ForbiddenX]

^lol he's mad.

Even if it's just RTS games, I still don't think it'll be able to handle anything current. There'll probably be "tablet" oriented games, like the ones we see for the iPad/iPhone.

[Manic!]

Wow, an Asus laptop with a battery that has 3.36 times the capacity of the iPad (84Wh for the Asus vs 25Wh for the iPad) and it can run just as long.

That's some pretty fucking amazing efficiency there. And I suppose they're going to be able to fit this massive battery into a tablet no problem. :rolleyes:

The Asus laptop is not running a Culv cpu. The Eee pad will have no optical drive and it will have a smaller screen meaning it will need a smaller battery.

Also the Eee pad CPU will be way faster than the snapdragon used in the Ipad mean it will be able to run more powerful apps.

[Manic!]

^lol he's mad.

Even if it's just RTS games, I still don't think it'll be able to handle anything current. There'll probably be "tablet" oriented games, like the ones we see for the iPad/iPhone.

Command and Conquer would be sweet.

[ericthehalfbee]

Shut the fuck up. You asked for an example and he fucking found you one. Then you decide to bitch about something else. :gtfo:
Reading comprehension much?

My original comment: You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.

Then people go on about CULV portables having 10 hour battery life.

Way to compare apples to oranges here. I asked for an example and you fell for it and made my point - you can't compare battery life of a laptop with a full-size battery to a tablet with a battery 1/2 to 1/3 the capacity.

[ericthehalfbee]

The Asus laptop is not running a Culv cpu. The Eee pad will have no optical drive and it will have a smaller screen meaning it will need a smaller battery.

Also the Eee pad CPU will be way faster than the snapdragon used in the Ipad mean it will be able to run more powerful apps.
I'm going to put on a CAI with a K&N on my car. Then I'm going to put on a turbo, some coilovers and low profile racing tires. Then my car will be as fast as a 911 Turbo.

I guess magazine/bench racing can also be applied to the computer/tech industry.

[DragonChi]

Hoping this is going to come with 3G and reasonably light. Reasonably light meaning around 2lb.
I'd pick it up for sure!

[Vinny G]

Reading comprehension much?

My original comment: You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.

Then people go on about CULV portables having 10 hour battery life.

Links? I'd love you to show me a 12" portable (or a few if you know of that many) that can last 10 hours while doing somehting useful.

Do you have trouble remembering what you post?



Way to compare apples to oranges here. I asked for an example and you fell for it and made my point - you can't compare battery life of a laptop with a full-size battery to a tablet with a battery 1/2 to 1/3 the capacity.

Oh my, you're so clever! It was all a ruse to begin with! We ALL fell for it!

[wasabisashimi]

^ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

Can you say dreaming

Remember, HP already dropped their Slate because of poor performance with Win 7. What makes Asus think they can somehow "solve" the problems that caused HP to give up on Win 7?

Can you say FAN BOY?

suck steve jobs' dick much?

[raygunpk]

but really, can you say dreaming?

[ericthehalfbee]

Can you say FAN BOY?

suck steve jobs' dick much?
As I've said in the other iPad thread (which you obviously never read), I'm strictly Windows for my PC's. I only own an iPhone as my current phone crapped out and I was eligible for an upgrade. I also wanted a iPod so I got the iPhone as it filled my needs.

My current rig is an i7 920, dual 5870 Radeons (watercooled) and dual Intel 80GB SSD's (which I built myself as I have been doing for years now). Main storage is provided by a Windows Home Server (that I also built) with 6TB of storage.

I will never own an Apple computer as the programs I need (engineering software) are not available on Mac.


But hey, feel free to make such comments as "suck Steve Jobs dick" which is the usual response by a person who can't come up with a logical argument.

[wasabisashimi]

the programs I need (engineering software) are not available on Mac.



now this makes you a closet apple fan boy because you WISH
that your programs are availabe on Mac.

I do not know about building computers nor do I own a PC. I am using internet at the Fleetwood park community library (these are AMD sempron with an ugly green sticker). By the way is running windows XP and the mouse barely works due to hair and dirt on trackball. My logic is telling me that you have self-insecurity issues, hence the boasting of your super rig and your ability to read a news article and make critique.

[lilaznviper]

he is just an apple fan boy and would buy anything steve jobs releases

[DragonChi]

IMO since tegra2 on the 10 inch model is meant to compete with the ipad, since it uses a RISC processor. So it would make sense that the comparison between those 2 specifications would be be "apples to apples".

I would gladly give up some weight to run a core2 setup so multitasking is an option.

Although anything at this point is going to be speculation until it's actually released.

[ericthehalfbee]

now this makes you a closet apple fan boy because you WISH
that your programs are availabe on Mac.

I do not know about building computers nor do I own a PC. I am using internet at the Fleetwood park community library (these are AMD sempron with an ugly green sticker). By the way is running windows XP and the mouse barely works due to hair and dirt on trackball. My logic is telling me that you have self-insecurity issues, hence the boasting of your super rig and your ability to read a news article and make critique.
Since you admit to never building a rig this only shows you can't understand the point I'm making.

Anyone who builds their own PC's would be considered an enthusiast. And an enthusiaist would never buy a MAC as they know the cost of components and what's required to assemble a rig. You would also realize a MAC is way overpriced for what you get (take away the cost of components and you're paying a lot for MAC "style").


Funny how someone who defends something Apple makes is instantly labeled as a fanboy. You guys would make excellent businessman. You can develop a product and completely ignore the competition because "they suck". Don't bother opening up what they made to see what's inside. Don't ever pick one up and actually use it to see how it works. Never get the opinions of end users to see what they like and dislike about the competition. All if this is a waste of time, because the competition "sucks" and anything we make is going to be better in every single area, so why waste time looking at the competition?

[LiquidTurbo]

My current rig is an i7 920, dual 5870 Radeons (watercooled) and dual Intel 80GB SSD's (which I built myself as I have been doing for years now). Main storage is provided by a Windows Home Server (that I also built) with 6TB of storage.


http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8929/1271818986660.gif

[ericthehalfbee]

A funny picture as a response. What are you, 12?

[ScizzMoney]

..Anyone who builds their own PC's would be considered an enthusiast. And an enthusiaist would never buy a MAC as they know the cost of components and what's required to assemble a rig. You would also realize a MAC is way overpriced for what you get (take away the cost of components and you're paying a lot for MAC "style")..

This has nothing to really do with the thread, just saying, I've built my own computers and worked as a tech before, and I own a Mac now as well. Shit is overpriced in every industry, look at automobile market. I can go buy a fully loaded F-150 in the 50's. Or a fully loaded Tundra in the mid 60's. Both are equally as capable as the next. One just has better resale value and fit & finish.

Back on topic, this Eeepad is running Windows CE7 right?

[Jsunu]

A funny picture as a response. What are you, 12?

Seriously people are against you because you were way too dismissive of the tablet and any future ilterations of the tablet. Do I see the device becoming a full fledged laptop? Yeah, but not now. Yet stating that ASUS, who are known to make excellent portable computers, will fail because HP slate was such a fail is a erroneous and premature prediction of the future of the technology.

[ericthehalfbee]

^ I can dismiss current and future tablets because none of them are based on any new or revolutionary technology. Bottom line is every PC or tablet out there is built using the same components everyone else has access to. This is why virtually all PC's out there offer similar feature sets at similar price points.

No manufacturer has access to any single technology that gives them a huge advantage over other manufacturers. All they can do is offer a diffferent combination of available components to make their product fit a specific market.

In the automotive world there's a saying "Fast, Cheap, Reliable - Pick Two".

You could apply the same logic to tablets: Fast, Small, Battery Life - Pick Two.

If your tablet is small and fast it's going to have lousy battery life.
If your tablet is fast and has long battery life it won't be small.
If your tablet is small and has long battery life it won't be fast.

The last one is what Apple chose with the iPad. Long life, small size, but limited in performance. This was a choice their engineers made, not something they did because they are stupid and don't know how to make a faster tablet.


Of course, if any of the engieers in this thread has some inside technical information on the processor, screen, video and battery systems that Asus is using and how they have made them an order of magnitude better than current technology (to allow them to be much faster, and use much less power than everyone else), then I'll retract everything I've said.

[underscore]

You forgot an important point - cost. A tablet can be small, fast, and long lasting, but you'll be paying out the ass for it. A lot of people here, with technologies currently available, could make a rough design of a tablet that would slay the fuck out of this one and the oversized itouchmyself, but it would be stupid expensive.

Personally, I'll take performance and size at a reasonable price, if you're carrying around something as large as a tablet it shouldn't be a big deal to toss a small charger in there too.

[tiger_handheld]

If EEE-PC unveiled this 1.5mo's ago , it would've been a serious blow apple!!

[ForbiddenX]

^I highly doubt that. I don't think it'd make a significant difference. They'd still be selling like hot cakes.

[ericthehalfbee]

You forgot an important point - cost. A tablet can be small, fast, and long lasting, but you'll be paying out the ass for it. A lot of people here, with technologies currently available, could make a rough design of a tablet that would slay the fuck out of this one and the oversized itouchmyself, but it would be stupid expensive.

Personally, I'll take performance and size at a reasonable price, if you're carrying around something as large as a tablet it shouldn't be a big deal to toss a small charger in there too.
I would love for someone to spec out a tablet: processor, graphics subsystem, display technology, battery and WiFi/3G. Then show me how much power their processor and so on will consume and how their battery will provide power for a 10 hour run time.

Using "technologies currently available".



So you'll carry around a charger with your performance tablet? Are you saying a long battery life is pointless since you can simply plug in when you need to?

Then why are we even arguing about run times when an AC outlet is always handy?

[DragonChi]

ARM A9 w/ it also running the gfx, 3qi screen w/resistive touch, 5200 mAH battery, and whichever wireless off the shelf u want should probably net you 10 hours.

imo long battery life until you can get to a AC plug, which is 4 hours give or take. not 10 hours.
but then there is the question of charge time... Personally, 8 hours should be enough and what underscore said, it should be affordable.

I mean look at the Dell Streak, essentially something between an iphone and ipad, but it's got everything that I'm looking for but costs about 1000, where an ipad is what? 600? and can't really do much...in terms of video, multitask and other OS limitations.