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Blinky
06-03-2010, 05:35 PM
Is the term "brown" racist or offensive?

I don't think it is and I've used it (indeed, with brown folks), but I was having dinner with a few friends yesterday - white and yellow - and someone said they considered "brown" to be racist.

So, what do you think?

anti_rice
06-03-2010, 05:47 PM
racist and offensive things are different for each person. Some people might think it's fine and some think it's offensive. You'll never get a definate answer. I personally don't think it's offensive. It's like calling a person white or black. I'm chinese you can call me yellow i don't find that offensive but hey that's my opinon. People out there nowadays will find anything and everything offensive unless it's politically correct.

Harvey Specter
06-03-2010, 05:50 PM
I'm EI and I don't find brown offensive, most non-EI people I know always say brown and all EI's refer to white people as "gora or gori" which basically means white man or white woman. If we wanted to be PC crazy, the proper way of referring to someone white would be caucasian man or woman.

El Bastardo
06-03-2010, 06:17 PM
The first time I used the term "brown people" in front of my American friends they were stunned and thought I was being a Klan-level racist. These are white people who live in the south.


Just think how shocked they would be if I had used the word "dip"

Harvey Specter
06-03-2010, 06:35 PM
I think paki, raghead, and hindu are racist terms. I don't think "brown" is a racist word describing EI people but everyone has their own opinion.

vitaminG
06-03-2010, 06:44 PM
i dont see how its in any way offensive if its in a casual situation. i prolly wouldnt call someone "brown" at work or in a newspaper, but otherwise i dont see the problem. Brown people are pretty racist ourselves anyways. look at our words; gora, khala, china, its the same shit.

van_driver
06-03-2010, 06:51 PM
don't find it offensive unless someone says it like their trying to say it in a
derogatory way, then it's just retarded.

murd0c
06-03-2010, 06:59 PM
I grew up in Surrey so I have lots of brown friends. I call them brown all the time it kinda drives me crazy this new south Asian term that came out the last couple or years to be more politically correct. I even joke around with my brown buddys and say hindu and they call me honky or white boy but of course only my friends since other people may take it in a racist meaning which I dont mean.

Blinky
06-03-2010, 07:42 PM
I think paki, raghead, and hindu are racist terms. I don't think "brown" is a racist word describing EI people but everyone has their own opinion.

Please clarify Hindu. Hinduism is a religion, and a Hindu, unless I'm mistaken, is a practioner of Hinduism. So, aside from painting all EI people as Hindu (when clearly they are not), how is this offensive?

Thanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu

fishing666
06-03-2010, 07:44 PM
if brown is considered offensive, then i see a hierarchy of the colors

not meant to be offensive:

White
Yellow
Brown
Red
Black

and the most superior would be white blonde but we counteract that with dumbblonde but strangely enough it only applies to blonde women. Now if brown people wanna be called south asian does that mean they wanna be more yellow than brown? It would be far from racism but rather discrimination based on the hierarchy of colors.

Do you mean harm when you refer to them as "brown"? Probably not
They will either accept you calling them brown or you will accept not using brown. Usually you'll accept them and not use the word brown but if it seems like they are requesting something like that burqa story then u tell them to eat a dick and say canada is a free country bitch

Qmx323
06-03-2010, 08:06 PM
Wow the day that people think colors are offensive.

Leparto
06-03-2010, 08:26 PM
i use the word dipper

tool001
06-03-2010, 08:50 PM
didnt read all the posts..but i think it matter in "what context its used" quite simple..

91LS-VTak
06-03-2010, 09:01 PM
Please clarify Hindu. Hinduism is a religion, and a Hindu, unless I'm mistaken, is a practioner of Hinduism. So, aside from painting all EI people as Hindu (when clearly they are not), how is this offensive?

Thanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu

Thanks knowledge man!:thumbsup:

He is referring to situations when people say "You fu*king Hindu!", not because the person is a Hindu, but becuase the person is EI. The word "hindu" by itself is not offensive, but it is being used in an offensive (or derogatory) way.

woob
06-03-2010, 10:22 PM
f we wanted to be PC crazy, the proper way of referring to someone white would be caucasian man or woman.

Actually, the word "caucasian" can be used to describe any of the indigenous people of Europe, North Africa, West Asia, Central Asia, and South Asia. The proper, pure PC word for a European "white" person is "occidental."

twitchyzero
06-03-2010, 10:25 PM
the term Asians are now coined towards orientals (japanese, chinese, vietnamnese etc)...when it should really include middle eastern population, turks and even russians.

Harvey Specter
06-03-2010, 10:52 PM
Thanks knowledge man!:thumbsup:

He is referring to situations when people say "You fu*king Hindu!", not because the person is a Hindu, but becuase the person is EI. The word "hindu" by itself is not offensive, but it is being used in an offensive (or derogatory) way.

+1.

AzNightmare
06-03-2010, 11:47 PM
the term Asians are now coined towards orientals (japanese, chinese, vietnamnese etc)...when it should really include middle eastern population, turks and even russians.

I never associated browns and russians with asians. But that's only cause
I considered the term to be used to specify a type of race, and not just
where people are from geographically.

My friends never found "brown" as offensive.
Btw, why are brown people called East Indian?
Is there West Indian?

urrh
06-04-2010, 12:15 AM
My friends never found "brown" as offensive.
Btw, why are brown people called East Indian?
Is there West Indian?

native americans

fliptuner
06-04-2010, 12:19 AM
native americans

Ever heard of the Caribbean?

AzNightmare
06-04-2010, 12:47 AM
The last time I went to the Carribbeans, there were black people there...

goo3
06-04-2010, 02:56 AM
your white and yellow friends are sheltered

did your white friends only grow up with white ppl and yellow friends only grow up with yellow ppl?

Meowjin
06-04-2010, 03:35 AM
Please clarify Hindu. Hinduism is a religion, and a Hindu, unless I'm mistaken, is a practioner of Hinduism. So, aside from painting all EI people as Hindu (when clearly they are not), how is this offensive?

Thanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu

because a majority of east indians in vancouver are sikh and they hate hindu's.

What_the?
06-04-2010, 05:58 AM
i'm an asian guy, and maybe it's just me, but it would seem weird to refer to an asian guy as a "yellow" guy?

most people go by "asian guy" or "chinese guy".... but it would seem weird for someone to call me a "yellow guy" for some reason...

Anjew
06-04-2010, 06:39 AM
go start another thead for yellow :haha:

SkinnyPupp
06-04-2010, 07:14 AM
Brown isn't offensive, because it has never really been used in a derogatory way. Yellow however, is another story.

And West Indian people are native Caribbean.

sunny_j
06-04-2010, 07:19 AM
I'm EI and don't have a problem with being called brown
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Jsunu
06-04-2010, 07:20 AM
if brown is considered offensive, then i see a hierarchy of the colors

not meant to be offensive:

White
Yellow
Brown
Red
Black

and the most superior would be white blonde but we counteract that with dumbblonde but strangely enough it only applies to blonde women. Now if brown people wanna be called south asian does that mean they wanna be more yellow than brown? It would be far from racism but rather discrimination based on the hierarchy of colors.

Do you mean harm when you refer to them as "brown"? Probably not
They will either accept you calling them brown or you will accept not using brown. Usually you'll accept them and not use the word brown but if it seems like they are requesting something like that burqa story then u tell them to eat a dick and say canada is a free country bitch

Where the hell did you get this hiearchy of colors?!?!?

freakshow
06-04-2010, 12:07 PM
Usually, it's not the term itself, but the context in which it's used.

ajax
06-04-2010, 12:35 PM
I believe Mexican people call themselves brown too.
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originalhypa
06-04-2010, 12:45 PM
Usually, it's not the term itself, but the context in which it's used.

exactly.
Jah said that he would consider "Hindu" to be a racist term, and if it's used ignorantly, or used to describe someone who is Sikh, then I completely agree. It's like calling me a Christian. If you said "hey, you dirty christian" then yeah, it's derogatory. But if my friend refers to me as "my Christain buddy", then it's not so bad. It's all in the context.

For the record, I'd be a bit offended if someone referred to me by my faith, rather than my name or personality.