[MWR34]

I dont smoke, but a friend was positive he was buying fake cigarettes, so we went to a few 7-11's, Mac's, and small corner shops, they were all selling one style, then Shoppers costco and safeway were another style. Guess which was group had the better tasting product?

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[corollagtSr5]

did it ever occur to you that the ones you call fake are just the old design, hence the taste of old stale cigarettes

[Vansterdam]

lol

[Greenstoner]

who fakes Belmonts ? lol

If i were to fake cigs, I will probabaly fake Marlboro which can be sell international

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

interesting

[yellowpower]

Hmm i dont see why legit shops like those would sell fake belmonts... But you point out some pretty real and interesting points. Maybe they are just the older versions of the pack because yes i have tasted the stale taste of old ciggarettes before too.
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[yellowpower]

Actually, how do you know which ones are the fake ones and which ones are actually the real ones?
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[hotjoint]

:lol

[bcrdukes]

I don't smoke but do cigarette packages indicate the production date?

[MWR34]

Hmm i dont see why legit shops like those would sell fake belmonts...
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Fake cigarettes cost pennies to make, with zero money spent on advertising and marketing. It is real tobacco, just not from Belmont. So a vendor might buy real belmonts for $7, or fake ones for $2. If it isn't harming people and they still get a tobacco taste, they think who's gonna find out. ill make $8/pack instead of $3/pack when I sell them as profit.

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if you google belmont and try to find anything that resembles the FAKE style, nothing comes up. The Font, the packing colour combo, plus the real ones say, Benson and Hedges, TORONTO. the fake ones say Belmont, Toronto.

[124Y]

wow :lol

[Meowjin]

have you thought about you know emailing belmont.

[jpark]

lol

[TOPEC]

come to think of it, there might be fake benson and hedges too?

i remember a month ago, i bought a few bensons from a local 711, and what caught my attention was the exterior film wrap was very loose fitting and flimsy, usually its a perfect fit around the cigarette box, the interior tin paper u pull out were all messed up and crumpled in the corners, and it didnt have that "help u quit smoking" paper inside. didnt really think much of it at the time.

[bloodmack]

I like how you worry if its fake, and not how it will eventually kill you. :thumbsup:

[Manic!]

The ones you are calling fake are not fake. Companies change packaging all the time and sometimes the formulas too. They also might have had to drop some ingredients do to bill 32.

[KingCrimson]

what does bill 32 say??

[Manic!]

what does bill 32 say??

I know that rooftop (Marlboro's name in Canada) Had to remove some ingredients from there cigarettes because of bill C32. Next time the RBH rep comes in I will ask them about Belmonts.

Also there is no way Costco is selling fakes.

[MWR34]

I like how you worry if its fake, and not how it will eventually kill you. :thumbsup:

the first three words i posted, I DONT SMOKE, so I could care less if you die sooner because you decided to smoke.
I know that rooftop (Marlboro's name in Canada) Had to remove some ingredients from there cigarettes because of bill C32. Next time the RBH rep comes in I will ask them about Belmonts.

Also there is no way Costco is selling fakes.

And the better tasting cigarettes were from shoppers/costco/safeway if that wasnt clear. Meaning, buy from really big companies, not smaller stores.

[Manic!]

the first three words i posted, I DONT SMOKE, so I could care less if you die sooner because you decided to smoke.


And the better tasting cigarettes were from shoppers/costco/safeway if that wasnt clear. Meaning, buy from really big companies, not smaller stores.

The ones we sell in our store look exactly like ones you say are fake and we get ours from Costco.

[hotong]

hahaha nice

[noventa]

i have the fake ones here in Toronto. Been buying them for a month now from different retailers and they all match your "fake" ones.

[orange7]

just different cover designs from different manufacturer locations from the same company?

[Shun Izaki]

there are fakes, ever since i asked in the other thread, I checked with a few friends and they claim to have seen many come through (they work with fraud securities crap)

but oddly enough, i only ever smoke belmonts (when i'm outta JDM smokes) and i've never got ones that say "Belmont, Toronto" or whatever... I mean sure I might have missed one or two, but the packaging is pretty consistent.

then again, i'm one of those people that buys belmonts from costco and in cartons (10 packs)

Meh... get what you pay for :P now to laugh at all the fucks who CLAIM they can buy belmonts cheaper by a couple cents...

[Hot Karl]

I like how you worry if its fake, and not how it will eventually kill you. :thumbsup:

THEY FUCKING KILL YOU? HOLY SHIT. DOES THE GOVERNMENT KNOW ABOUT THIS? ALERT THE INTERNET! CIGARETTES KILL! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

thanks bloodmack. i'm just so gracious you let me in on this. it's definitely something those hollywood fat cats don't want us to know.

[mqr03]

I've never even heard of belmont before. I thought it was a golf course

[hotjoint]

wow mqr03 is full of fails everytime he posts :lol

[bloodmack]

THEY FUCKING KILL YOU? HOLY SHIT. DOES THE GOVERNMENT KNOW ABOUT THIS? ALERT THE INTERNET! CIGARETTES KILL! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

thanks bloodmack. i'm just so gracious you let me in on this. it's definitely something those hollywood fat cats don't want us to know.

Yeah, because I was totally saying, "hey if you guys don't know yet smokes can kill, its not labeled on every package". Thanks for the smart comment though gave me a good chuckle.

the first three words i posted, I DONT SMOKE, so I could care less if you die sooner because you decided to smoke.
stores.

I didn't specifically mean you, or i would of said O/P. But still, its like crack addicts worrying if their crack is 100% pure or not. It's still going to fuck you up.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

I've never even heard of belmont before. I thought it was a golf course

wtf :rolleyes:

[Mike Oxbig]

ur friend is a dumbass :lol

[CRS]

THEY FUCKING KILL YOU? HOLY SHIT. DOES THE GOVERNMENT KNOW ABOUT THIS? ALERT THE INTERNET! CIGARETTES KILL! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

thanks bloodmack. i'm just so gracious you let me in on this. it's definitely something those hollywood fat cats don't want us to know.

:lol

[Manic!]

I've never even heard of belmont before. I thought it was a golf course

Most people on the wes tcoast don't know about Belmont. Most people who smoke Belmont are from the East cost, Asian or from the Middle east.

[misteranswer]

I like how you worry if its fake, and not how it will eventually kill you. :thumbsup:

So what's going to kill you?

[twitchyzero]

If it isn't harming people and they still get a tobacco taste, they think who's gonna find out.

not trying to pull your quote out of context..i just thought it was funny/ironic the way you phrased that sentence as if the legit ones weren't "harming" people.

Hot Karl, you can't take a joke huh? funny seeing the smokers get all defensive over nothing.

[Shun Izaki]

oh btw, some of the fake things up there are wrong, like the gold stripping that supposedly goes over the edge.

this was changed when they have a sloped edge on the pack instead of a complete 90 degreee corner (they apparently did this, as it was easier to slide in and out of a pocket)

[obselete]

i second that they are only different designs......

[UnDeadMage]

yeah man just different designs. i was looking at a pack since i work at a convenience store and we get them straight from a B&H distributor. they all show signs of the "fake" version which isnt true

[hal0g0dv2]

wow mqr03 is full of fails everytime he posts :lol

he is a attention whore

[cinderella]

I just bought a pack from 7 11>>>according to this guys...i just bought fake smoke!! lol joke of thread ...they are both real!

[tegz]

no way these "fake" belmots are actually fake..! all my smokes look like the fake ones.. got 5 packs at home right now b/t me n a buddy from diff stores...

they taste real to me!

[StaxBundlez]

i'm so glad i dont smoke... well... anymore that is..

[tegz]

^yo momma didn't raise no quitter >=(

[ImportPsycho]

+1
pack i bought from Shell, is fake according to OP
I dont think so
if you think they are really fake, why dont to file a report on stores selling fakes? this is serious sht

[b-dub]

I have 7 packs infront of me

4 of them are "fake" and 3 are "real"

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[tegz]

I have 7 packs infront of me

4 of them are "fake" and 3 are "real"

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hah, thats exactly what i did last night !!

[daica-viet]

i have 3 packs in my face and they all match the ones that are fake but they don't taste fake.

[Mike Oxbig]

they sell the red ones at costco, go sue them :twirleye:

[OhSoGood]

Belmonts have a distinct taste to them, its very hard to fake.
Unlike cigarettes such as Du Maurier, exports etc.

[mqr03]

wow mqr03 is full of fails everytime he posts :lol

Actually I was right.
I'm sorry I didn't know cigarette brands considering I don't even smoke.
The only brands I'm familiar with are dumorier, export, camel

http://scoregolf.com/belmont-golf-course-langley-british-columbia-canada

[Shun Izaki]

there ARE fake ones, the pictures posted by OP arn't the right ones...

seen'em, usually find'em in richmond next to where you buy fake mild7's :P

[vafanculo]

Ah well. Fake cigs = fake cancer
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[corollagtSr5]

ok, has anyone tried out belmont cigarettes on 33rd and main corner store, or 26th and main corner store? I believe they are selling fake belmonts. 33rd and main corner store tastes really different. The one on 26th and main i noticed the yellow card inside is straight cut verses rounded. Not to sure if they updated those cards. These too also taste different.

[GabAlmighty]

I'm sure if you stopped cig'in you wouldn't have this problem.

[BNR32_Coupe]

the fake oens taste super horrible, and the print quality looks like it came off an ink jet