[TRDood]

You have a choice 1 or 2 for co-op

1. BC Gov't in Victoria
2. Fed Gov't in Ottawa

which one will you pick/choose

I have to decide within 24 hours... :(

[bcrdukes]

Are you seriously going to let Revscene decide your future? :lol

[Greenstoner]

Ottawa wihtout a doubt
but the Canucks have better chance in Stanley cup run this year than the Senators ...

[lowside67]

Victoria. (Based purely on the fact that Victoria > Ottawa)

[1exotic]

BC Government in Victoria

[raygunpk]

Ottawa

[MR_BIGGS]

Ummm, obviously BC Government in Victoria

Why is this the obvious choice?

I had a friend that went to Ottawa for a co-op and they hired him when he graduated. He said the experience was valuable. I think you would have a better experince in Ottawa than Victoria. A lot of provincial jobs in BC are based out of Victoria so you may get some good contacts, but you could also make great contacts in Ottawa. If public service is the route you want to take, I would take the Federal job in Ottawa.

[TheNewGirl]

Depends what your ultimate aims are. But if you intend to stay in BC I would suggest Victoria. Coops are awesome for networking, you want a network that's going to help you.

[murd0c]

Federal no questions asked. Its easier to go from
federal to provincial then provincial to federal.
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[dim_sum]

i heard federal pays more than provincial too if you're concerned about pay

[Volvo-brickster]

Federal without a doubt.

Their pension + superannuation MUCH better than provincial ( provided you get a job and stay )

[SoulCrusher]

Long term career-wise, your best off working Federal. Better security, pay, benefits. There's alot of room for movement as well due to the various depts/agencies. Good luck with your decision.
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[rawr]

Also, I think that if you go to the federal one, you HAVE to learn French. All the course fees are covered, but you will be required to write some exams.

[Tapioca]

Also, I think that if you go to the federal one, you HAVE to learn French. All the course fees are covered, but you will be required to write some exams.

No you don't. Unless the position is "billingual imperative", you don't have to learn the second language.

And if it is, you have to be at the level of French required prior to being appointed to the position. The level of French language training has been cut back and is typically limited to those who are in management or aspiring managers.

[k2_alpha]

Go federal.
once you get in, you never leave.

[CP.AR]

Ottawa.

I've worked with the federal government before.... damn it's nice

[TRDood]

Pay wise, City > Provincial > Federal

but i don't care about co-op pay, it's ways around $20 anyways. I am working for the federal gov't right now.. and it's not too bad, but I just don't like living here.

I am just wondering if I should go for the provincial gov't and gain more experience and add value to my resume.

[raygunpk]

Pay wise, City > Provincial > Federal

but i don't care about co-op pay, it's ways around $20 anyways. I am working for the federal gov't right now.. and it's not too bad, but I just don't like living here.

I am just wondering if I should go for the provincial gov't and gain more experience and add value to my resume.

City pays more than Federal?

[hk20000]

My impression is whatever job you do in the Federal government that's going to look better on your resume for your future undertakings.

just me .02.

[m4k4v4li]

without a doubt go national! ahha

[TRDood]

My impression is whatever job you do in the Federal government that's going to look better on your resume for your future undertakings.

just me .02.

that's EXACTLY what happened.

When they heard about my federal experience, doing almost the same job. I can hear their eyes open up even though it was the phone interview.

Fuck. this is such a hard choice.

[TRDood]

No you don't. Unless the position is "billingual imperative", you don't have to learn the second language.

And if it is, you have to be at the level of French required prior to being appointed to the position. The level of French language training has been cut back and is typically limited to those who are in management or aspiring managers.

99% of federal jobs in Ottawa requires both.

Vancouver is only English, Quebec is only French, you get the idea.

[TRDood]

Federal no questions asked. Its easier to go from
federal to provincial then provincial to federal.
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exactly what's in my mind.

but what if you have federal experience already? (my case...)

[bengy]

Ottawa. 10$ lap dances!

[misteranswer]

Which one is most relevant to what you may think you will do as a career?

Victoria is nice because you can come back on weekends. I had a friend who worked an extra hour each day so every two weeks she got Friday off for a long weekend.

[neggo]

Federal.

Currently working for the Federal Government for Co-op, though I'm not based in Ottawa. I did go there for my orientation, though, and it was pretty awesome.

What department and position is this for?

[TRDood]

Which one is most relevant to what you may think you will do as a career?

Victoria is nice because you can come back on weekends. I had a friend who worked an extra hour each day so every two weeks she got Friday off for a long weekend.

In the perfect world, I am happy to be with the BC gov't for a career. BUT they do not have a bridging mechanism for students. So it's a gamble.

If I work in Victoria, I will just go home every weekend. It's better than paying $600 every month to fly back for long weekends like what I am doing right now. :p

at the end, I want to score a permanent position, I don't care whether it's Federal or Provincial.

[hk20000]

then do you want to move to Ottawa permanently? It's not like it's an unlivable city, a few millions would agree with me on that.

It's like if Pixar hires me down in Cali then it's fuck yall Vancouver time. Not like they do but just sayin'.

[Tapioca]

99% of federal jobs in Ottawa requires both.

Vancouver is only English, Quebec is only French, you get the idea.

I wouldn't say it's 99%. Many of my colleagues in the capital are unilingual and they have relatively decent positions, like EC-5 and PM-6.

It can depend on the department as some more are more "English" than the others.


in the perfect world, I am happy to be with the BC gov't for a career. BUT they do not have a bridging mechanism for students. So it's a gamble.

If I work in Victoria, I will just go home every weekend. It's better than paying $600 every month to fly back for long weekends like what I am doing right now.

If you compare relatively similar positions in the federal and provincial government, the federal one pays a few thousand more per year.

Ottawa is a "nice" city to raise a family in, but it's a pretty lame city for a 20-something. At least you are close to Montreal, so I'd be spending my long weekends there.

[Great68]

Strictly speaking about location, Ottawa is nowhere near as beautiful as Victoria. :D

[TRDood]

I wouldn't say it's 99%. Many of my colleagues in the capital are unilingual and they have relatively decent positions, like EC-5 and PM-6.

It can depend on the department as some more are more "English" than the others.



If you compare relatively similar positions in the federal and provincial government, the federal one pays a few thousand more per year.

Ottawa is a "nice" city to raise a family in, but it's a pretty lame city for a 20-something. At least you are close to Montreal, so I'd be spending my long weekends there.

Maybe I should rephrase my situation a bit more. I am currently working in the Federal government already. It would be

1. Extension in Ottawa for the same position (federal)
2. New position in Victoria (provincial)

[gdoh]

BC

[Tapioca]

Maybe I should rephrase my situation a bit more. I am currently working in the Federal government already. It would be

1. Extension in Ottawa for the same position (federal)
2. New position in Victoria (provincial)

The people in the thread have mentioned the pros and cons. I think you need to assess what's important to you:

- Long-term career prospects
- Being close to family
- Starting your own family
- Salary
- Lifestyle

If I were in your position, I would choose neither option and instead look for a federal position here in Vancouver. (In fact, this is what I did.)

[TRDood]

I picked BC.

Since I am working in Ottawa already, I think it would be beneficial for me to see other parts of the government.

[neggo]

^ Really a no lose situation, IMO

[W2K]

Pros and cons for each. I was in a reverse situation like you a few years back when I was in coop. Either take an extension with BC gov or new position with fed gov (slightly lower pay, 37.5 hour workweeks compared to BC's 35). Mine were both positions in lower mainland though, chose the feds since I wanted more networks and to see a different side of things.

I'm indeterminate now with the feds. If you were looking into coming back to vancouver to work I would have suggested staying with the feds. With possibilty of bridging for coops, term hires, and internal jostings you can look for BC. I think it might have been easier going that route. My 2 cents.

I probably would have done the same thing if I was in your shoes. Goodluck on your new position!
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Are you seriously going to let Revscene decide your future? :lol

sure sounds like a great idea

lol

[TRDood]

Pros and cons for each. I was in a reverse situation like you a few years back when I was in coop. Either take an extension with BC gov or new position with fed gov (slightly lower pay, 37.5 hour workweeks compared to BC's 35). Mine were both positions in lower mainland though, chose the feds since I wanted more networks and to see a different side of things.

I'm indeterminate now with the feds. If you were looking into coming back to vancouver to work I would have suggested staying with the feds. With possibilty of bridging for coops, term hires, and internal jostings you can look for BC. I think it might have been easier going that route. My 2 cents.

I probably would have done the same thing if I was in your shoes. Goodluck on your new position!
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Yea, it does sound weird to work for only 35 hours a week. Bridging program is what I am looking towards, but there's none available right now, so I might as well go elsewhere and gain more experience.

There are big recruitments in the Fall for economists (my field), so I would imagine that having experiences from 2 places is better than putting my all my eggs in one basket.

I am not letting RS decide my future, I just want to see if people have any experiences to share. :thumbsup:

[TRDood]

If I were in your position, I would choose neither option and instead look for a federal position here in Vancouver. (In fact, this is what I did.)

:thumbsup:

I'm coming back! :D