[asian_XL]

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFFF/Car/BMW/X3/BMW-X3-1371010358116851600x1060.jpg

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/BMW/X3/BMW-X3-137101035895911600x1060.jpg

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/BMW/X3/BMW-X3-1371010358107001600x1060.jpg

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/BMW/X3/BMW-X3-1371010358129501600x1060.jpg

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/BMW/X5/BMW-X5-1371010312248101600x1060.jpg


http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/BMW/X3/BMW-X3-1371010359227041600x1060.jpg
http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFFF/Car/BMW/X5/BMW-X5-1371010312534051600x1060.jpg

[J____]

http://www.koreainsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/fat-asian-kid.jpg

[TypeRNammer]

In this case....GLK > X3

God damn the X3 is even worse now.

[!Aznboi128]

^ imo q5 > GLK in terms of looks

but the GLK performance is something to keep staring

[TypeRNammer]

^ imo q5 > GLK in terms of looks

but the GLK performance is something to keep staring

But the Q5 is straight up a Q7, but shrunked:rofl:

[TRDood]

so BMW never have plans to improve the interior/dash?

those radio buttons look the same as 15 years ago...

[!SG]

its got navi now!

[Qmx323]

lolololol buying for the brand

[TRD Rs200]

I kanna like it better then the previous generation

[Pt20]

yea i think it looks slightly better... but thats not saying much.

[jpark]

i dont think its THAT bad.. the 5th picture looks really awkward though

[Szeto]

I don't think it looks that bad at all.

Small SUV preference: GLK -> Q5 -> X3

[JV6]

meh i prefer the current x3

[Qmx323]

Q5 is the shiznit

[spoon.ek9]

when i worked at bmw, the x3 was the biggest piece of shit on the lot. overpriced and drove like crap.

+1 for buying for brand status.

[obselete]

cocks buy for soley the reason of brand status

[bosco_604]

The new X3 will have an M sport package option should look better with it. Left Lane has some photos. It will also sport the twin scroll N55 engine sub 6 sec 0-60. add a tune and you can easily shave another.5 off that. Not bad for a grocery getter.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-x3-2011.html

[dark0821]

stilll the Q5 for me... the X3 ...welll never liked it then, defn dun like it now..

[too_slow]

They need to make a Q5 with the 3.0T engine from the S4.

My gawd that X3 looks hideous.

[Euro7r]

X3 looks retarded. Never liked it.

[dhari]

not an improvement at all. GLK is way better.

[Phat_R]

for the market it is intended for (yuppies with kids +/- dog) -- they've done a good job with this vehicle.

i think it looks good -- definitely looks like a bmw inside and out

[Gumby]

Looks better than the current X3...

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

still a weak ass car

[crazyazn]

Anybody see this?

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/BMW/X3/BMW-X3-1371010358129501600x1060.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/1441yki.jpg

[VK79]

The new X3 will have an M sport package option should look better with it. Left Lane has some photos. It will also sport the twin scroll N55 engine sub 6 sec 0-60. add a tune and you can easily shave another.5 off that. Not bad for a grocery getter.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-x3-2011.html

This shot looks passable

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx98/vk79/Randoms/X3M-Sport.jpg

But to spend $$$ on what is supposed to be a "luxury car" just to make it look passable is sad.

[twitchyzero]

looks better than the current one..but that's not saying much at all

[insomniac]

when i worked at bmw, the x3 was the biggest piece of shit on the lot. overpriced and drove like crap.

+1 for buying for brand status.

it isnt as bad as you say it is LOL...
ilvtofu has one.. i didnt think it was that bad..

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

top gear reviewed it was pure garbage



ppl who owns a bmw themself rarely would flame its POS, even if its true they still wouldnt admite it. Along with C230/323 fellows
:)

[DiiCii]

i like the traditional bimmer style headlights, these ones are really rectangular =( the front end of the new x3 looks like it has chubby cheeks LOL:rofl: although the looks may not look so nice, hopefully it performs better than expected :)

[orange7]

why do ppl even bother buying a x3 when there is the x5.

I mean, the x3 is good at nothing.

performance - nope
off road - nope
lots of space and cargo room - nope
baller status - nope

exterior look - maybe (depends on the person)

bmw badge - yes

[wasabisashimi]

Maybe they want u to buy more X1

[mb_]

Anybody see this?

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/BMW/X3/BMW-X3-1371010358129501600x1060.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/1441yki.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

why do ppl even bother buying a x3 when there is the x5.

I mean, the x3 is good at nothing.

performance - nope
off road - nope
lots of space and cargo room - nope
baller status - nope

exterior look - maybe (depends on the person)

bmw badge - yes

same lame ass ppl who buys C230/240, 318/320/323


fucking posers that looks at the badge with an underpower pos power plant dragging a heavy ass body around while manual everything, enough said.

[keifun]

same lame ass ppl who buys C230/240, 318/320/323


fucking posers that looks at the badge with an underpower pos power plant dragging a heavy ass body around while manual everything, enough said.

Don't forget about those B200 too..those are just lame.
plus you just described over 80% of the people in Richmond already:rofl:

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

fucking hate those posers...no i dont care what their excuse is, first four years mainteance free. Give me a fucking break, its a brand new car it shouldnt break down in the first place. regular oil change here and there and within 5 years nothing should fail other than the basic wear and tear.


buttom line i hate wonnabes

[skylinergtr]

wow so much x3 hate. Speaking from experience as my mom has one. I for one will say its a great car. The pictures posted in the beginning of the new 2011 model do look more ugly, however the new white (M package) one that was posted looks a lot better. Honestly, its not the best looking BMW. Infact, it was made for ladies. My mom is a small person, that doesn't want a big SUV so this car is just perfect for her. She is on her second X3 right now and we've never had a problem. Whenever i get a chance I'll decide to drive it because its so fun to drive. Very agile, and rev happy (7000rpm reline). Quick on its feet, brakes are solid, and handles like fucking dream. It's no different than a 3-series. It is not comparable to the X5. The X5 is a different class of a class, and infact it drives more like a truck (still a very good vehicle). From what i've seen and experienced I find the X3 a more than decent vehicle, and find it loads of fun to drive. It is especially good in the snow. I live in the hills of West Vancouver, and from the winters a few years ago with snow fall over 3 feet, it easily maneuvered anywhere. I even took it cypress for some fun. This is just my opinion.

its not that bad....

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/skylinergtr/DSC02808.jpg?t=1280291382

[threezero]

i think the problem is most people buy x3 for the brand not for its so call performance, which imo is pretty weak for a small suv with a bmw badge.

well at least it sells.... look at the infiniti ex....

[PiuYi]

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/BMW/X3/BMW-X3-1371010358107001600x1060.jpg

C-LAI inside!!! surprise surprise... haha



well at least it sells.... look at the infiniti ex....

dude i love the infiniti ex, super comfy and perfect size

[nubtub]

its improved a little...not by much though...

[skylinergtr]

fucking hate those posers...no i dont care what their excuse is, first four years mainteance free. Give me a fucking break, its a brand new car it shouldnt break down in the first place. regular oil change here and there and within 5 years nothing should fail other than the basic wear and tear.


buttom line i hate wonnabes

you're confusing 4 years maintenance free with basic car warrenty. Sure the 4 years free maintenance is a great marketing attraction to BMW sales, but hey in the long run in ownership you'll probably save close to $1000 in dealership work. Our previous X3 went for 2 inspection 1's, and 1 inspection 2. Inspection 1's are normally $200 give or take, and when we did the inspection two I was told that it was $750 worth of work done to the car (including the fuel filter replacement which is located inside the gas tank). Would you like to an extra $1000 in you're bank account? if shit breaks down within 4 years/80,000kms then yes, basic warrenty covers it.

[The_AK]

interior looks nice, however, the previous gen exterior is by far better looking

[TomBox_N]

Lol, X3 is the c-lai car. Have u ever seen a clai trying to parallel park a X5? man, it's painful to watch.
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[threezero]

you're confusing 4 years maintenance free with basic car warrenty. Sure the 4 years free maintenance is a great marketing attraction to BMW sales, but hey in the long run in ownership you'll probably save close to $1000 in dealership work. Our previous X3 went for 2 inspection 1's, and 1 inspection 2. Inspection 1's are normally $200 give or take, and when we did the inspection two I was told that it was $750 worth of work done to the car (including the fuel filter replacement which is located inside the gas tank). Would you like to an extra $1000 in you're bank account? if shit breaks down within 4 years/80,000kms then yes, basic warrenty covers it.


you didn't factor in how much more a bmw cost compare to other brands. people that can afford bmw shouldn't have any problem paying for the maintenance while people that struggle to pay for maintenance cant afford a bmw.

[ilvtofu]

wow so much x3 hate. Speaking from experience as my mom has one. I for one will say its a great car. The pictures posted in the beginning of the new 2011 model do look more ugly, however the new white (M package) one that was posted looks a lot better. Honestly, its not the best looking BMW. Infact, it was made for ladies. My mom is a small person, that doesn't want a big SUV so this car is just perfect for her. She is on her second X3 right now and we've never had a problem. Whenever i get a chance I'll decide to drive it because its so fun to drive. Very agile, and rev happy (7000rpm reline). Quick on its feet, brakes are solid, and handles like fucking dream. It's no different than a 3-series. It is not comparable to the X5. The X5 is a different class of a class, and infact it drives more like a truck (still a very good vehicle). From what i've seen and experienced I find the X3 a more than decent vehicle, and find it loads of fun to drive. It is especially good in the snow. I live in the hills of West Vancouver, and from the winters a few years ago with snow fall over 3 feet, it easily maneuvered anywhere. I even took it cypress for some fun. This is just my opinion.

its not that bad....

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/skylinergtr/DSC02808.jpg?t=1280291382

Although my parents only got it as a company lease car because the 39 month BMW offers is ridiculously cheap, similar cars would cost at least $150 more a month. But they don't offer such lease rates anymore

I've taken the car well beyond where C-Lais have been and all the gripes I have in the city are immediately forgotten offroad where the car is composed on bumpy surfaces and on a 1:1 slope the car had no slippage whatsoever. Car has decent ground clearance but also a stiff suspension. (scratch that spine cracking suspension)

Obviously though 99% sold in vancouver will never go off road, but the car is a good size for us and seats 5 well. Best part I like is the 3.0si has effortless power and from where I live near dunbar/ubc driving to richmond center I average around 9.5L/100km I kid you not. Even when my mom drives through all the c-lai parking lots etc in richmond still manages a 13.5 which is a solid number for a car putting down these kinds of numbers.

And sidenote is the reliability, firstly maintenance is covered for the first 4 years saving you thousands over a mercedes. But never have we noticed a lightbulb failure or anything whatsoever, I believe consumer reports will back me up on this, this car is built quite well IMO

Anyways to stay on topic, new look seems more macho, I just hope it's more comfortable, hopefully improvement would be like the e90 from the e46 haha. But I kinda agree with some of the above posts, the current X3 although controversial styling-wise has more character in the look, this new one just looks really bland.

Spoon.ek9, i'm not sure what kind of an x3 you drove that drove like crap, I'll admit it's no m3, but as a drivers car transmission is excellent and the car's awd really puts you into corners with lots of grip. This isn't a car for the camry crowd.

[skylinergtr]

you didn't factor in how much more a bmw cost compare to other brands. people that can afford bmw shouldn't have any problem paying for the maintenance while people that struggle to pay for maintenance cant afford a bmw.

This is irrelevant. My point that i was trying to make is BMW uses this 4 year maintenance free to intrigue customers, and it works! They also have very competitive lease rates too which are much better than other premium brand cars, or even non-premium brand cars. Filthy Rich, Rich, Mid class, Comfortable, Poor, Dirt poor, Bum, what ever status anyone is. I'm sure most people will appreciate the extra $1000 in their bank for the 4 years of free work done to their BMW. This also gives BMW owners more peace of mind to the original basic warrenty they offer.

[threezero]

^ ok nvm i take that back. i fail to consider that other luxury brand in the similiar price range doesn't offer that

[skylinergtr]

^ ok nvm i take that back. i fail to consider that other luxury brand in the similiar price range doesn't offer that

We leased our X3. Including taxes the payments are $750/month. 0 downpayment, for 48 months. We basically got it as fully loaded as it could without navigation. The MSRP including discount was about $50,000 (usually $56,000). I think the price is right for such a vehicle. Honestly, go price a toyota highlander, Mercedes GLK 350, Volvo XC60, just about any car as a competitor to the X3 and you will see how it has the best price in terms of Leasing. Leasing BMW's are the way to go. You use it for the duration given, return, and get a new car. You dont have the deal with the typical ticking time bomb BMW. I know because i've spent twice as much on my old 5 series than what i bought it for. BMW is trying to get anyone in a BMW, and there's nothing wrong with making sales. What i'm confused about is that people are criticizing the X3 as the cheapest BMW and it was bought for status. If thats the case, then whats the 323i for? The X3 has an expensive price tag, but not uber expensive. There are people who buy cars carelessly (for status), most of the time i see the X3 was bought for the extra ground clearance, cargo room (compared to a 3 series), and because its somewhat compact. There are plenty of people buying BMW M cars, or Mercedes AMG cars just for Status. Any car brand/model can be bought for status.

[donjalapeno]

its a nice reliable, good looking car, with good power. Get over it. People dont buy x3s just for the badge (no idiot is gonna spend 45gs on a car just for the badge), its for a family of 4 that need a little bit more room than a sedan, however not big like fullsize suvs. My dad just bought one and it handles like a dream, the straight 6 is money and its roomy and comfy as tits. It looks 100x better than the nasty ass looking GLK350 not mention its waaaaaaay more fun to drive than the bulky GLK.

[ilvtofu]

We leased our X3. Including taxes the payments are $750/month. 0 downpayment, for 48 months. We basically got it as fully loaded as it could without navigation. The MSRP including discount was about $50,000 (usually $56,000). I think the price is right for such a vehicle. Honestly, go price a toyota highlander, Mercedes GLK 350, Volvo XC60, just about any car as a competitor to the X3 and you will see how it has the best price in terms of Leasing. Leasing BMW's are the way to go. You use it for the duration given, return, and get a new car. You dont have the deal with the typical ticking time bomb BMW. I know because i've spent twice as much on my old 5 series than what i bought it for. BMW is trying to get anyone in a BMW, and there's nothing wrong with making sales. What i'm confused about is that people are criticizing the X3 as the cheapest BMW and it was bought for status. If thats the case, then whats the 323i for? The X3 has an expensive price tag, but not uber expensive. There are people who buy cars carelessly (for status), most of the time i see the X3 was bought for the extra ground clearance, cargo room (compared to a 3 series), and because its somewhat compact. There are plenty of people buying BMW M cars, or Mercedes AMG cars just for Status. Any car brand/model can be bought for status.

What they mean by buying for status is that people who buy "BMW" for luxury status really aren't getting much luxury. For example with a car like an m3, people buy it for the car's legendary performance and they are getting that. However I won't disagree with you that underneath and extensively testing the car over the last 38 months I have to disagree with what some members have said.

[skylinergtr]

What they mean by buying for status is that people who buy "BMW" for luxury status really aren't getting much luxury. For example with a car like an m3, people buy it for the car's legendary performance and they are getting that. However I won't disagree with you that underneath and extensively testing the car over the last 38 months I have to disagree with what some members have said.

The so called "BMW Status" is to have a european car. BMW has never really been about Luxury, more or less sportiness and performance. The 1 series, 3 series, X3, and M series have all been not too luxury vehicles but were meant to be a fun performance vehicle. BMW luxury is stepping into the big dogs like 5 series, 6 series, 7 seires etc. If you wanted a name because of luxury, then call upon Mercedes-Benz (except AMG models). My point of people buying even the expensive models for status is that i've seen more M6's than 645i/650i. They are all just putting around town, and not used to their potential and what they were created for (not good for M-Cars). That is what i call, buying a car for "Status".

[orange7]

you ppl are misunderstanding my argument.

No one said the X3 drives like a Dodge Caravan or a Neon, and it better not for ~$45k.

It obviously has decent grip in the city, decent suspension, and what not for its price tag, otherwise it will be the ultimate joke.


Just that for its price vs utility, there are wayyy better choices out there.

Like you said, a fully loaded Toyota Highlander will run about the same price. Yet, ppl still choose the $45 BMW over a $45k Toyota partly because of the influence of the brand. The toyota highlander has way more capabilities than the x3; it's bigger, better offroad, just as much grip in the snow, more loaded, higher ground clearance(?), cheaper insurance(?), etc...


I'm pretty sure some of the x3 owners were looking for a highlander sized SUV but because the x3 costed the same and it's a BMW, they chose the x3 instead.

I'm not saying you ppl are part of that group, but I'm just saying that there are some ppl like that.

[too_slow]

I must be in the minority. I like the 1st gen X3 3.0si with a manual. It drives likes a 330i ZHP with more headroom, and they are fairly cheap to import from the states (no duties!)

http://www.tunerzine.com/articles/113/1.jpg

[too_slow]

Ok fine here's a stock pic:

http://0.tqn.com/d/suvs/1/0/e/K/-/-/Profile.jpg

[ilvtofu]

you ppl are misunderstanding my argument.

No one said the X3 drives like a Dodge Caravan or a Neon, and it better not for ~$45k.

It obviously has decent grip in the city, decent suspension, and what not for its price tag, otherwise it will be the ultimate joke.


Just that for its price vs utility, there are wayyy better choices out there.

Like you said, a fully loaded Toyota Highlander will run about the same price. Yet, ppl still choose the $45 BMW over a $45k Toyota partly because of the influence of the brand. The toyota highlander has way more capabilities than the x3; it's bigger, better offroad, just as much grip in the snow, more loaded, higher ground clearance(?), cheaper insurance(?), etc...


I'm pretty sure some of the x3 owners were looking for a highlander sized SUV but because the x3 costed the same and it's a BMW, they chose the x3 instead.

I'm not saying you ppl are part of that group, but I'm just saying that there are some ppl like that.

I think the point skylinergtr was trying to make and the same point i am making is that, during a few years of its run in canada the X3 had some crazy lease deals, that would get you an equivalent of a Rav4, not a bad car in any sense but most people looking to lease would probably choose the x3 just because there are no worries for the first 4 years anyways which works out great if you're only leasing it for 3-4 years

[skylinergtr]

you ppl are misunderstanding my argument.

No one said the X3 drives like a Dodge Caravan or a Neon, and it better not for ~$45k.

It obviously has decent grip in the city, decent suspension, and what not for its price tag, otherwise it will be the ultimate joke.


Just that for its price vs utility, there are wayyy better choices out there.

Like you said, a fully loaded Toyota Highlander will run about the same price. Yet, ppl still choose the $45 BMW over a $45k Toyota partly because of the influence of the brand. The toyota highlander has way more capabilities than the x3; it's bigger, better offroad, just as much grip in the snow, more loaded, higher ground clearance(?), cheaper insurance(?), etc...


I'm pretty sure some of the x3 owners were looking for a highlander sized SUV but because the x3 costed the same and it's a BMW, they chose the x3 instead.

I'm not saying you ppl are part of that group, but I'm just saying that there are some ppl like that.

You make a good point. I made a mistake by relating the X3 to a Highlander. Lets say if I compare it to more of a "brand competitor", the Lexus RX350. I have driven one, my friend has one. It does have the technology, and luxury that the BMW doesn't have (A bmw is more sporty than pipe and slippers to me), but i would still take the X3 over the RX. I am an enthusiast that enjoys the "fun to drive factor". A Highlander, or RX350 (very similar really) did not satisfy at all. Even the power was not decent. Judging from experiences here I guess the people who have actually driven/own BMW X3's can agree that they are a great car, but then some could argue that we are just being bias.



a little off-topic, but another reason why I like the X3 to say an X5 is because its actually made in europe (Austria to be exact). I've seen plenty of X5's with problems like velocity shafts and such and I would prefer my car with a european automaker name to be actually made in europe (unlike the X5).

[Lomac]

You make a good point. I made a mistake by relating the X3 to a Highlander. Lets say if I compare it to more of a "brand competitor", the Lexus RX350. I have driven one, my friend has one. It does have the technology, and luxury that the BMW doesn't have (A bmw is more sporty than pipe and slippers to me), but i would still take the X3 over the RX. I am an enthusiast that enjoys the "fun to drive factor". A Highlander, or RX350 (very similar really) did not satisfy at all.

But then here's the problem I have with that argument: If you're looking for something that has sporting influence, why bother looking at a cute-ute in the first place? I've driven plenty of SUV's and the very last thing that comes to mind when I do is that it was "sporty." Utilitarian, yes. Off-road capable, yes. But sport? Never. But if you want something that's sporty and capable of carrying more than a coupe, why not look at some form of sport wagon? They're able to hold almost as much as most SUV's, and they're much better to drive.

I'll admit that I'm biased against SUV's in general; yes, I love going off-road in 'em, but for driving around town, there are far better vehicles to do so in that are much more economical and have much more cargo space, while maintaining the build quality and technology within it.

[threezero]

You make a good point. I made a mistake by relating the X3 to a Highlander. Lets say if I compare it to more of a "brand competitor", the Lexus RX350. I have driven one, my friend has one. It does have the technology, and luxury that the BMW doesn't have (A bmw is more sporty than pipe and slippers to me), but i would still take the X3 over the RX. I am an enthusiast that enjoys the "fun to drive factor". A Highlander, or RX350 (very similar really) did not satisfy at all. Even the power was not decent. Judging from experiences here I guess the people who have actually driven/own BMW X3's can agree that they are a great car, but then some could argue that we are just being bias.



a little off-topic, but another reason why I like the X3 to say an X5 is because its actually made in europe (Austria to be exact). I've seen plenty of X5's with problems like velocity shafts and such and I would prefer my car with a european automaker name to be actually made in europe (unlike the X5).


i'm sorry but rx350 feels like a big sofa on 4 wheels you could almost fall asleep driving it, its that boring. x3 vs. q5 vs fx35 vs. toureg would be a better comparison?

to lomac, some people need the extra space and ground clearance but can't afford or don't want to maintain 2 cars. Just because people have more needs than a sedan can handle doesn't mean that they HAVE to sacrifice the handling and the sporty feeling. You should test drive some of the newer crossovers, you might be surprise at how it handles.

Of course wagon would make the perfect sense in that circumstance but i doubt north americans can accept wagons like european can.

[skylinergtr]

But then here's the problem I have with that argument: If you're looking for something that has sporting influence, why bother looking at a cute-ute in the first place? I've driven plenty of SUV's and the very last thing that comes to mind when I do is that it was "sporty." Utilitarian, yes. Off-road capable, yes. But sport? Never. But if you want something that's sporty and capable of carrying more than a coupe, why not look at some form of sport wagon? They're able to hold almost as much as most SUV's, and they're much better to drive.

I'll admit that I'm biased against SUV's in general; yes, I love going off-road in 'em, but for driving around town, there are far better vehicles to do so in that are much more economical and have much more cargo space, while maintaining the build quality and technology within it.

The X3 classification of a vehicle is a bit of a mistery. It drives exactly like a 3 series (it's the same chassis). Its considered a SUV by some, but in reality its in the SAV (sport activity vehicle) category. It cute-ute by appearance to attract the female gender. Even though i love the car, its a girly looking car to be honest. Its perfect for any women really who doesn't want a big SUV. BMW has always had the Sporty approach and thats what makes this car so amazing in my books. It can handle anything i put it through. I've taken it through 3 feet of snow. I've taken it through inclines of gravel/sand. I've taken corners very fast. I've taken it to the 210km/hr limiter. I enjoy the drive of the x3 very much. The wagon can do most of all of it, however it lacks in ground clearance which is what the x3 gains in. This makes it better for Snow, Gravel, Sand, etc. I havent taken it to an actual offroad course, but i mean who would even take an x5 there.

[ilvtofu]

Ground clearance is one thing but ride height is probably more important to buyers. Better forward visibility isn't a bad thing to have. Also the car is relatively compact but offers decent space. We chose the x3 over the 3 because the 3 was shorter and the wheel well intrudes into the rear sseat a lot more. Making it very uncomfortable for seating 3 people in the back. X3 is a little flatter in the back so it feels wider. The actual dimensions are quite similar though
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[asian_XL]

^ if a buyer is looking for better forward visibility, he buys a minivan, not SUV

SUV is for people who think bigger car = safer in car crash and for kids to play monkey swing at the back seats

[orange7]

The X3 classification of a vehicle is a bit of a mistery. It drives exactly like a 3 series (it's the same chassis). Its considered a SUV by some, but in reality its in the SAV (sport activity vehicle) category. It cute-ute by appearance to attract the female gender. Even though i love the car, its a girly looking car to be honest. Its perfect for any women really who doesn't want a big SUV. BMW has always had the Sporty approach and thats what makes this car so amazing in my books. It can handle anything i put it through. I've taken it through 3 feet of snow. I've taken it through inclines of gravel/sand. I've taken corners very fast. I've taken it to the 210km/hr limiter. I enjoy the drive of the x3 very much. The wagon can do most of all of it, however it lacks in ground clearance which is what the x3 gains in. This makes it better for Snow, Gravel, Sand, etc. I havent taken it to an actual offroad course, but i mean who would even take an x5 there.

Bingo, we have a winner.

This is what I've been trying to say..

the X3...
is like a suv, but not really a suv
is cute, but not really cute
is girly looking, but not really girly looking
is able to go through snow, but so can a corolla with winters
is able to go off roading(?), but can't really go off roading
is able to take corner fasts, but not really fast
is able to accelerate, but not superbly fast
has high ground clearance, but not really high
has space, but not a lot of space
is relatively compact, but not compact
is not in the same class as a 3 series, and not in the same class as a X5

an X3 can do almost everything, but it can't do anything well. I think this is the same point that top gear made.

If this is what you really want, then by all mean.. buy it if you got $45k.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

you didn't factor in how much more a bmw cost compare to other brands. people that can afford bmw shouldn't have any problem paying for the maintenance while people that struggle to pay for maintenance cant afford a bmw.

thats why they are fucking posers


i see it all the time, ppl that drives 3 series/ A4 etc asking for the cheapest tires or complaining $1000 dollar for a set of rims is too expensive
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

they should all be rolling on canadian tires steelies if they are that cheap

[too_slow]

Austria?
I thought the X3 and Z3/Z4 were all made in South Carolina, US??

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

its a nice reliable, good looking car, with good power. Get over it. People dont buy x3s just for the badge (no idiot is gonna spend 45gs on a car just for the badge), its for a family of 4 that need a little bit more room than a sedan, however not big like fullsize suvs. My dad just bought one and it handles like a dream, the straight 6 is money and its roomy and comfy as tits. It looks 100x better than the nasty ass looking GLK350 not mention its waaaaaaay more fun to drive than the bulky GLK.

:Orly: :Orly: :Orly:

ya think

[skylinergtr]

thats why they are fucking posers


i see it all the time, ppl that drives 3 series/ A4 etc asking for the cheapest tires or complaining $1000 dollar for a set of rims is too expensive
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

they should all be rolling on canadian tires steelies if they are that cheap

there's nothing with being cheap and trying to save yourself money. Personally i'm not that cheap of a guy, but hey if i can i'll try to save money on things like tires. Some of my family friends are filthy rich and they are some of the cheapest SOB's ever. The posers that annoy you are anyone with a 323i's that are happy they have a "BMW". What posers really annoy me are old men or laddies of whatever culture driving a BMW M6, or Mercedes AMG car and are driving under the speed limit.

[skylinergtr]

Austria?
I thought the X3 and Z3/Z4 were all made in South Carolina, US??

The BMW Z3, Z4, X5, and X6 are the US (South Carolina) made BMW's. The X3 has always been manufactured in Austria. There is talk about if BMW is going to manufacture the X3 in the US for the new 2011 model.

[wasabisashimi]

wow so much x3 hate. Speaking from experience as my mom has one. I for one will say its a great car. The pictures posted in the beginning of the new 2011 model do look more ugly, however the new white (M package) one that was posted looks a lot better. Honestly, its not the best looking BMW. Infact, it was made for ladies. My mom is a small person, that doesn't want a big SUV so this car is just perfect for her. She is on her second X3 right now and we've never had a problem. Whenever i get a chance I'll decide to drive it because its so fun to drive. Very agile, and rev happy (7000rpm reline). Quick on its feet, brakes are solid, and handles like fucking dream. It's no different than a 3-series. It is not comparable to the X5. The X5 is a different class of a class, and infact it drives more like a truck (still a very good vehicle). From what i've seen and experienced I find the X3 a more than decent vehicle, and find it loads of fun to drive. It is especially good in the snow. I live in the hills of West Vancouver, and from the winters a few years ago with snow fall over 3 feet, it easily maneuvered anywhere. I even took it cypress for some fun. This is just my opinion.

its not that bad....

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/skylinergtr/DSC02808.jpg?t=1280291382

Regarding the exhaust tips on your moms X3. It looks like a dual outlet tip right? How come it looks like one hole is fake and only the other hole has actual function of letting out the smoke.

[RabidRat]

holy crap just when you thought it couldn't get any uglier..

[124Y]

thats why they are fucking posers


i see it all the time, ppl that drives 3 series/ A4 etc asking for the cheapest tires or complaining $1000 dollar for a set of rims is too expensive
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

they should all be rolling on canadian tires steelies if they are that cheap

Well, if they like the car themselves and didn't buy it to "show off" to others, it wouldn't be posing would it?
I drove a 323i for a short period before, and even though it's quite slow, it still "feels" like a BMW when you drive it. For those not looking for performance, but want the other characteristics of a BMW, why would they spend less money on a cheaper car which doesn't offer them what they want, when they can afford a BMW?

[ilvtofu]

Bingo, we have a winner.

This is what I've been trying to say..

the X3...
is like a suv, but not really a suv
is cute, but not really cute
is girly looking, but not really girly looking
is able to go through snow, but so can a corolla with winters
is able to go off roading(?), but can't really go off roading
is able to take corner fasts, but not really fast
is able to accelerate, but not superbly fast
has high ground clearance, but not really high
has space, but not a lot of space
is relatively compact, but not compact
is not in the same class as a 3 series, and not in the same class as a X5

an X3 can do almost everything, but it can't do anything well. I think this is the same point that top gear made.

If this is what you really want, then by all mean.. buy it if you got $45k.

The problem is that you are comparing all those things to cars in a different class, it's not compact compared to a yaris, it's off road ability is not comparable to a wrangler, the ground clearance isn't anything like a dodge power wagon. But that's not the point because it can just as easily be said that the yaris doesn't have the same amount of space or the wrangler doesn't feel as nimble. But when you compare the X3 to similar cars in it's class ie. GLK, RDX, Q5 it's not as incompetent as you make it sound. but the fact of the matter is the points you have made are irrelevant

[rawr]

Had the honour to drive the X3 along with its competitors half a year ago when we were shopping for a SUV.

I've driven the old X3 3.0, and it handled really well for a SUV. The engine lacked power compared to its competitors but it was very smooth revving. Its interior was by far the cheapest.. and I disliked the exterior.

The GLK had a better interior, had more "oomph" because of its 3.5L V6. The 7speed gearbox was very very smooth. Not a fan of its styling. The long hood made it hard to judge when parking. Big windows helped a lot though. Very light steering and VERY mushy pedal feel.

Q5, hands down, had the BEST exterior and interior. Felt like the rear has the least leg room though. Pretty light steering feel. This was the most expensive of the bunch though!

RDX was actually very decent. The AWD system vectors torque to the outside wheels during cornering. Probably the best AWD system out of these SUVs. The engine while sounded pretty clunky was very powerful. The steering was beautifully weighted, but could've been a bit stiffer. It's also the cheapest out of the bunch!

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

yup rather choose RDX or shell out a bit more cash for Q5 than that pos

[TOPEC]

its obvious all the haters in here had never actually driven a X3 like it should be driven before.

[simsimi1004]

what a useless thread.
IMO, buying a car is all about preference
and if having a BMW key is part of ur preference, the decision to buy one is a good choice.
some people buy it for looks, performance, brand, sport, utility, etc
dont be hating on people who buy low end bmws.

why not hate on those people who buy the authentic jdm red honda emblem for $$$ wen u can get an exact same replica for dirt cheap?
its about the feeling of having authentic. and if people want a bmw, why not?

not saying that i like the x3 though.

[simsimi1004]

Also having a BMW whether its low end or high end, comes with so much benefits compared to other brands.
the level of service/respect they have for their customer is prestige. compared to my infiniti/acura dealer. (my experiences)
They pick up my car and leave me a courtesy one anywhere if i want them too. not sure if anywhere else do that? maybe other luxury brands?
no gas money? lost wallet? no money for weed? bmw lends u 500$ interest free 30day if u need it.
free oil changes, refills, filter changes, etc for 4 years.
free brake pad changes if u buy the package. (good deal too)
their designated waiting room? a computer, wifi, cold bottled water, coffee, TV, tons of NEW magazines and newspaper. or u can just get a ride to anywhere in a nice clean new car. i say nice clean new car cuz from infinti they use a shitty nissan cube all the time.
when i call their number, a person answers it, not a fucking automated system.
the free shit that they give me for buying a bmw.

BMW = good.
yes im a "little" biased.

[Tegra_Devil]

man that is an ugly suv....gj bmw

[threezero]

I have to agree with the part about infiniti, for a luxury brand their service is far from luxury.

But I also have to add that sometimes service varies from dealership to dealership? My dad's merc has been out of warranty for a few years and he still goes to the dealership for service and he receive excellent service too, many of the things you have listed like pick up drop off, get a decent courtesy car etc.

500$ interest free is sweet i wonder how many bmw owners are aware of that

[skylinergtr]

Regarding the exhaust tips on your moms X3. It looks like a dual outlet tip right? How come it looks like one hole is fake and only the other hole has actual function of letting out the smoke.

The exhaust tips are true duals, however one is controled by a servo butterfly valve. When the car is first started in the morning, the valve is fully closed. While driving and going in the high RPM ranges, the valve opens. This is used to give the car a more sporty sound. It's a sport tuned exhaust.

true duals tips

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/skylinergtr/exhaust.jpg

servo butterfly valve on the right

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/skylinergtr/exhaust2.jpg

hope this answered your question

[skylinergtr]

what a useless thread.
IMO, buying a car is all about preference
and if having a BMW key is part of ur preference, the decision to buy one is a good choice.
some people buy it for looks, performance, brand, sport, utility, etc
dont be hating on people who buy low end bmws.

why not hate on those people who buy the authentic jdm red honda emblem for $$$ wen u can get an exact same replica for dirt cheap?
its about the feeling of having authentic. and if people want a bmw, why not?

not saying that i like the x3 though.

this is true. I have no problem for expressing their own opinion and not liking the X3, but knowing that many have not driven it and experienced it and to be bashing it and calling a POS is a joke. If you don't like it, kindly express it or keep it to yourself. This thread is silly and immature. You don't see me making threads about vw/audi because I detest them.