[C5_Ryder]

VANCOUVER(News1130) - It's official, Vancouver currently has the highest gas prices in the country.
Petroluem marketing company MJ Ervin finds the average price across Canada is roughly 1.04 a litre as of July 27th.
Here in Vancouver the average price is 1.19.
60 markets were sampled in the survey.
We top traditional number ones, including Whitehorse and Yellowknife - the latter being at just over a 1.18.
The lowest price at the pump belongs to Edmonton at around 86 cents a litre.
Toronto is just below the national average at 1.03 a litre.


http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/82528--vancouver-s-gas-the-most-expensive-in-the-nation

[TRD Rs200]

shit, why am I still here

[hk20000]

yeah did you know that if you just hop the border it's 75cents a L? ($3/Gal or 4L)

[danned]

stupid gas price

[Great68]

Yeah, you can thank all the freaking gas taxes which were applied in the last 10 years.

[1BADMR2]

WTF is wrong with the government here?? I live in White Rock and it is 1.19 here too. They implement/over see carbon tax, regular tax on gas, (I don't know how they can tax on tax?), etc. and yet that is not enough.
I hate how everything goes up in price but wages/raises do not.
*end of rant*

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

1.19 aint the highest, i saw 1.20 the other day




I guess i should be thankful i didnt tune it to 94 the other day

[CP.AR]

FUCK TRANSLINK

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

why is that

[hk20000]

coz Translink implemented the C tax...

[Qmx323]

^ translink is partially responsible as they pushed for tax raises in gas to encourage ppl to ride the bus (i think)

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

in that case fuck the government


i think it was last summer that the gas was 1.50 / L? or was that two summers ago, cant remember

[murd0c]

I only get gas at costco in poco so its normally 1.10ltr right now. That was a couple years ago it was 1.50 I think.
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

i guess every summer there is always a gas thread

lol

[Tapioca]

Sure the prices are high in BC, but consider this:

- I would say that the average commuting distance for people who live in the Lower Mainland is far less than what it is in say Toronto, or any major city in the United States (unless you're commuting from Abbostford to Downtown Vancouver everyday)
- BC has the lowest income tax rate (besides Nunavut) for anyone making under 70K (taxes have to come from somewhere to pay for services we use)

I hate how everything goes up in price but wages/raises do not.

Whose fault is that? Not the government's.

coz Translink implemented the C tax...

Wrong. The BC Liberals did.

[CP.AR]

i applied for a nexus pass just for the purpose of getting gas (i work 15 minutes away from point roberts so it's not really out of my way.)

Man translink really needs to stop ane think about their strategies... Find out why people aren't taking the bus, not randomly implement taxes to encourage ridership.
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[TRDood]

shit, why am I still here

You wouldn't want to be anywhere else in Canada, trust me.

[gdoh]

i would like to know the comparison in wages/salaries on average across the country too

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Sure the prices are high in BC, but consider this:

- I would say that the average commuting distance for people who live in the Lower Mainland is far less than what it is in say Toronto, or any major city in the United States (unless you're commuting from Abbostford to Downtown Vancouver everyday)
- BC has the lowest income tax rate (besides Nunavut) for anyone making under 70K (taxes have to come from somewhere to pay for services we use)



Whose fault is that? Not the government's.



Wrong. The BC Liberals did.

ummm are you sure? the lowest income tax rate?? are you kidding me? they are already robbing me with 30% taxes, what more could they possibly want in other provinces
:bullshit:

[Qmx323]

^^^

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

sorry but hes right man, other than nunavut we have lowest provincial income tax :(

if ur getting taxed 30% ur at the top of the bracket lol

[hotjoint]

Saw this on the news yesterday, we get raped nicely at the pumps

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

never mind

i read that link im getting taxed 22%

hmmmm weird.....i guess all the other BS fees takes away a large chunk as well


all i know is a month $1300 is gone in two pay cheques

[dachinesedude]

Of all the management from Translink, wouldnt at least ONE of them think, hmmm maybe no one's using public transit cuz our service sucks balls

[J____]

gee, what else is new. Vancouver, most expensive, least income...

[mowontech]

nothing special. Vancouver has highest prices for everything

[fliptuner]

I was in Calgary last week and gas stayed at 91.9 the whole time but from my account, that's pretty much the only thing they have over us aside from no PST.

edit: OK, they have a Red Lobster. hahaha

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

damnnn 92 cents


lol i heard red lobster aint all that almighty
perhaps overated???

[JSALES]

aw fuck sakes

[Ludepower]

Gas, homes, grocery....welcome to vancouver...most beautiful *barf* expensive *barf* place on earth.

[hotjoint]

nothing special. Vancouver has highest prices for everything

:werd:

[1exotic]

94 octane the other day was $134.5

not to mention if your car insn't good on gas..

;-l

[bloodmack]

Usually gas is 1.16 for me sometimes 1.19. For regular gas though its like 1.06 here..

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

94 octane the other day was $134.5

not to mention if your car insn't good on gas..

;-l

thats for a truck....right??



no way a supra costs $134 to fill up.....i think

[1exotic]

thats for a truck....right??



no way a supra costs $134 to fill up.....i think

it's for the supra

it's naturally aspired so it could probably take 91, but I just take 94 since it's only a few cent difference.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

shit

tats one thirsty car man

holly smokes



how many kms u get a tank?

400km? 450km?

[1exotic]

yeah about 400

[bloodmack]

94 octane the other day was $134.5

not to mention if your car insn't good on gas..

;-l

Mark 4 Supra has a 70L Tank so lets say gas is 1.19 it would be $83.30 to fill up from being empty. To cost 134 bucks to fill up it would mean 94 octane cost 1.92/L I call bullshit.

My fill ups cost roughly 45-60 depending on how i drove during that tank (i.e. hwy, and what gear i usually drove in). I get 450 - 500 KM a tank.

[fliptuner]

94 octane the other day was $134.5

not to mention if your car insn't good on gas..

;-l

$134.5 /= $1.345

[Tapioca]

Of all the management from Translink, wouldnt at least ONE of them think, hmmm maybe no one's using public transit cuz our service sucks balls

I don't work for Translink, but I happen to use PT 5-6 times a week and I must say that I respectfully disagree.

Why does it "suck" for you? Maybe one of the following:

- You live in a subdivision in a suburb that is far away from a major access road (e.g. Does it make economical sense to run express buses from No. 9 road to Downtown Vancouver?)
- You work in a place that is difficult to get to, no matter what method of transportation (e.g. Langley to Pitt Meadows)
- You have taken public transportation in other parts of the world (e.g. Hong Kong) which have great systems, but they also have the funding, the densities, and the political will to support and build those systems

Skytrain is packed every day and the 99 B-Line is beyond capacity. A lot of people take public transit, but you can't build systems overnight because of the lack of funding sources, NIMBYism, political fighting, etc.

[Ducdesmo]

Whose fault is that? Not the government's.


Of course it's the governments fault for higher prices. Who sets the minimal wage? Who implements new taxes and regulates tax laws? Who controls the inflation rate? Those all factor in with higher prices (or the devaluation of our dollar thanks to the Bank of Canada). Who created an artifical real estate bubble? Sorry to tell ya, it's all government institutions.

[q0192837465]

just use the Husky $2 off coupon coupled with MBNA Smart Cash CC. That'll give u roughtly 11c/litre savings

[Graeme S]

Of course it's the governments fault for higher prices. Who sets the minimal wage? Who implements new taxes and regulates tax laws? Who controls the inflation rate? Those all factor in with higher prices (or the devaluation of our dollar thanks to the Bank of Canada). Who created an artifical real estate bubble? Sorry to tell ya, it's all government institutions.

So you're complaining about the minimum wage? Not to sound unsympathetic but why are you trying to scrape by on such a menial job?

Taxes are not the sole reason for price increases, and the dollar has not "devalued" compared to where it was 10 or 20 years ago. Par was unthinkable in the early 90s--yet prices have not hugely dropped when looking at percentage differences on cars or electronics.

And I'm pretty sure it's not the Government buying up all the new housing developments (olympic village being the exception) driving up the prices.



So tell me, how are your laziness, dollar valuation comparing the last two decades, and real-estate speculator-based pseudobubbles controlled by the government?
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[Presto]

lol i heard red lobster aint all that almighty
perhaps overated???

Red Lobster is pretty awesome, IMHO. The cheesy bread rocks!
The closest one to here is in Lynnwood, WA, which is about an hour from the border. If they opened one up in Bellingham, it'd probably do well.

[asahai69]

hrrrm. live in edmonton and get cheap gas or live in vancouver and get raped on gas......

ill take the rape willingly

[2damaxmr2]

Edmonton > Vancouver

[milkmilk101]

I don't work for Translink, but I happen to use PT 5-6 times a week and I must say that I respectfully disagree.

Why does it "suck" for you? Maybe one of the following:

- You live in a subdivision in a suburb that is far away from a major access road (e.g. Does it make economical sense to run express buses from No. 9 road to Downtown Vancouver?)
- You work in a place that is difficult to get to, no matter what method of transportation (e.g. Langley to Pitt Meadows)
- You have taken public transportation in other parts of the world (e.g. Hong Kong) which have great systems, but they also have the funding, the densities, and the political will to support and build those systems

Skytrain is packed every day and the 99 B-Line is beyond capacity. A lot of people take public transit, but you can't build systems overnight because of the lack of funding sources, NIMBYism, political fighting, etc.

I strongly disagree with everything you said!!
1. In a developed city + port like Vancouver, you are required to have a very efficient and complete transportation system. If you build a road you MUST have public transportation there. In your example, I don't see why won't it make sense to have a bus route from No.9 road to DT "IF" there is a need eg. high population working in dt, business needs.
2. Office/work place usually don't be isolated at one place. If you work in an office, pretty you'll have many others around your area. Even if you work at a farm, you'll have many others around you. In that case, shouldn't there be public transportation access to that place as not an individual but many need access to that location?
3. Many countries including HK do not get funding from govt. They are separate companies. they only have investor which include the hk govt. and in most case, they are in loan. Thus, most of their money come from their revenue. I must admit HK transportation cost is fairly high but the services they provide is very efficient. How long it takes you to commute from let say langley to DT? 1 to 2hr? In HK, the same distance will probably take you at least half the time. Remember, time is money! If the country wants it economy to grow, speed up people's lifestyle!
4. 99B is always in high traffic because they have low frequency. In rush hours, many buses skipped their stops as they are so packed. If that's the case, should the buses come 2 buses at a time to reduce that stress. How often here in Vancouver do you hear student complain that they missed their bus because it is so packed they cant get on the bus or that they have to get on an earlier bus just not to be late? VERY OFTEN!!
5. Please stop that crap about no money and funding and all that crap. You have no idea haw much money they are making in translink. not saying the people salary but the company itself. You have any idea how many properties and investments they own? Maybe they are not getting much profit from their business due to low ridership but that don't mean they are not making money. They are filthy pigs!!

[milkmilk101]

So you're complaining about the minimum wage? Not to sound unsympathetic but why are you trying to scrape by on such a menial job?

Taxes are not the sole reason for price increases, and the dollar has not "devalued" compared to where it was 10 or 20 years ago. Par was unthinkable in the early 90s--yet prices have not hugely dropped when looking at percentage differences on cars or electronics.

And I'm pretty sure it's not the Government buying up all the new housing developments (olympic village being the exception) driving up the prices.



So tell me, how are your laziness, dollar valuation comparing the last two decades, and real-estate speculator-based pseudobubbles controlled by the government?
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Govt dont control the high prices but ehy do control the taxt rate. And tax rate directly affect the cost for manufacturer and supplier and in turn affect the prices of our goods. Now you may argue that the cost for raw materials is not controlled by govt but indeed they are. Regulations set by govt restrict the amt of resources produced or taken from nature each day eg oil/ trees. that is reflected on the supply rate in the world market and in turn changes the price.

[milkmilk101]

Also, the tax rate set by govt influences the wants to buy houses. Its all about demand and supply. Every step the govt takes, changes the price of something in the society.

[Ducdesmo]

So you're complaining about the minimum wage? Not to sound unsympathetic but why are you trying to scrape by on such a menial job?

Taxes are not the sole reason for price increases, and the dollar has not "devalued" compared to where it was 10 or 20 years ago. Par was unthinkable in the early 90s--yet prices have not hugely dropped when looking at percentage differences on cars or electronics.

And I'm pretty sure it's not the Government buying up all the new housing developments (olympic village being the exception) driving up the prices.

So tell me, how are your laziness, dollar valuation comparing the last two decades, and real-estate speculator-based pseudobubbles controlled by the government?
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LOL. Who's complaining about minimal wage? I make more than the avg Canadian household so I can care less. I merely stated that it was set by the goverment. Devaluation is still a factor, regardless of historic inflation rates. Who controls inflation? Government. Factor in ultra low interest rates(BoC) and easy lending standards of 0/40 5/35 (CMHC) and mainstream media telling everyone to buy now or be priced out and you have yourself a huge real estate bubble nationwide.

Electronics is in a league of it's own. Prices dropped due to globalization and minimal government involvement which allowed the free market to work itself out. None of that bailout BS.

My arguement is someone said it is not the governments fault that the cost of living is extremely high. In your opinion, who's fault is it?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

it's for the supra

it's naturally aspired so it could probably take 91, but I just take 94 since it's only a few cent difference.

i still dont get how u pumped $134 worth of gas

when tank is 70L

[TheSalesman]

I just filled up at Point roberts earlier today.
97c/L for 92oct.

[Tapioca]

I strongly disagree with everything you said!!
1. In a developed city + port like Vancouver, you are required to have a very efficient and complete transportation system. If you build a road you MUST have public transportation there. In your example, I don't see why won't it make sense to have a bus route from No.9 road to DT "IF" there is a need eg. high population working in dt, business needs.

That's not the point I was trying to make. My point was that if you live in an isolated area, it doesn't really make sense for any organization to run service that won't break even.


3. Many countries including HK do not get funding from govt. They are separate companies. they only have investor which include the hk govt. and in most case, they are in loan. Thus, most of their money come from their revenue. I must admit HK transportation cost is fairly high but the services they provide is very efficient. How long it takes you to commute from let say langley to DT? 1 to 2hr? In HK, the same distance will probably take you at least half the time. Remember, time is money! If the country wants it economy to grow, speed up people's lifestyle!

The HK MTR Corporation only became private recently. It was funded by the British government since the 1970s until the handover and it routinely ran deficits.

Now, the MTR uses real estate and retail to spur customer demand on its transit lines. Translink has the power to do the same thing, but you can be sure that if Translink were to start building high-density at its stations, people would be opposed.

4. 99B is always in high traffic because they have low frequency. In rush hours, many buses skipped their stops as they are so packed. If that's the case, should the buses come 2 buses at a time to reduce that stress. How often here in Vancouver do you hear student complain that they missed their bus because it is so packed they cant get on the bus or that they have to get on an earlier bus just not to be late? VERY OFTEN!!

The B-Line theoretically runs every 2-3 minutes during rush hour. However, you can only pack so many vehicles on Broadway - it is simply at capacity. Skytrain to UBC is the best solution, but there are a number of residents and businesses who are opposed to common sense. Google BARSTA.


5. Please stop that crap about no money and funding and all that crap. You have no idea haw much money they are making in translink. not saying the people salary but the company itself. You have any idea how many properties and investments they own? Maybe they are not getting much profit from their business due to low ridership but that don't mean they are not making money. They are filthy pigs!!

Yes, they own property, but as far as I know, they aren't building any real estate or commercial developments on those properties. I would like to see some links.

[1exotic]

i still dont get how u pumped $134 worth of gas

when tank is 70L

typo.

$1.345/L

[1BADMR2]

Sorry but the government is at fault. Since the government ownes (monopoly) the main companies in BC (icbc, translink, bchydro, etc.) it can raise or lower rates as it wishes. The greedy Libs TOOK +- $800 million from icbc instead of just lowering out premiums for insurance. Instead they gave us a pat on the head, sort of speak, 1.8% reductions for insurance. Now that is a joke, because we the people just take it in the ass and brush it off.
They see that gas prices go up then they should lower the taxes so that the people can still afford their budgets and still save money for rainy days. It is not people living beyond their needs, it is the government adjusting and being flexible to the constantly changing economy, people needs and wants, etc.
Unfortunately the government in Canada on both ends (prov. & fed.) suck ass and there needs to be a huge change. In most countries the government is scared of the people (crippling strikes) so those governments are forced to work with the people. In BC, the government laughs at the people and says lets add another tax.

read this article: http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/communityofinterest/archive/2009/11/16/the-b-c-government-s-publicly-owned-elephants-in-the-room.aspx

[fliptuner]

94 octane the other day was $134.5

not to mention if your car insn't good on gas..

;-l

$134.5 /= $1.345

typo.

$1.345/L

So you fail me cause I correct you and then post exactly what I said..... good job.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Presto]

So you fail me cause I correct you and then post exactly what I said..... good job.


And I failed you because you're bitching about fails.

[!Yaminashi]

Now that is a joke, because we the people just take it in the ass and brush it off.


Thats exactly the problem. People bitch and moan about the prices yet they just bend over and take it up the ass.

Nobody will ever do anything about it

[stylez2k4]

The HK MTR Corporation only became private recently. It was funded by the British government since the 1970s until the handover and it routinely ran deficits.

Now, the MTR uses real estate and retail to spur customer demand on its transit lines. Translink has the power to do the same thing, but you can be sure that if Translink were to start building high-density at its stations, people would be opposed.

It is pointless to compare the MTR to whatever we have here given the difference in population density.

[invader]

gas was 1.10 in aldergrove
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[Phat_R]

Death to Translink!!

[gilly]

honda fit ftw.

[Meister1982]

don't we have the lowest minimum pay as well? fucking bc gov is full of bullshit.

[spoon.ek9]

i just realised OP spelt vancouver wrong :lol

[mowontech]

the funny thing is...
BC government complains about drugs and illegal activities. But they don't do much to drop the crime rate since it is mostly the drug dealers who spend the most money here in Vancouver which equals tax money and equals government profit. Plus, they say they need to increase population and businesses to increase the economy here in Canada. The thing is, although the population is rising at a slow rate here, they can't expect the population and economy to rise at a significant rate when they raise taxes and create the most unaffordable lifestyle (things being too expensive). If they want more companies established in B.C. they need to increase the population more but in my opinion the B.C. government isn't willing to do what it takes to raise the economy or population. Basically, they say they want this or that but don't take it into action.

[TRD Rs200]

vancouver has the most expensive shit in Canada, period

[Tapioca]

It is pointless to compare the MTR to whatever we have here given the difference in population density.

Of course it is, but my point was to illustrate that we have the type of service we have here because of a variety of reasons other than the usual accusations of incompetence of the people who are running things.

You need a tonne of money, a tonne of political will (or simply a series of decision-makers who are willing to bulldoze the opposition), and financial incentives/disincentives to make transportation (public and private) better.

Thats exactly the problem. People bitch and moan about the prices yet they just bend over and take it up the ass.

Nobody will ever do anything about it

One could always join a political party or create a new one and try to sell your vision of society to the general public. Or, you could try to influence governments covertly by working for a think-tank like the Fraser Institute or the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives. Or, better yet, you could become a businessman (a real big one like Jimmy Pattison) and throw your weight and money around.

[hotjoint]

vancouver has the most expensive shit in Canada, period

looks like it

[belka]

vancouver has the most expensive shit in Canada, period

Gotta pay to play......in Vancouver.

Filled up with 94 @ 101.9/L today. Fuk ya.