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static
08-12-2010, 01:39 AM
So I was admitted to Richmond General Hospital yesterday and was held overnight for some minor surgery. What I will remember about my stay will not be the excellent nurses I met, some of whom were very cute. It will not be the fact that surgeons are just like regular people and like opening up patients to some nice tunes. It will also definitely not be my neighbor that had a bowel infection of sorts and had lost all control of his sphincters resulting in hourly fresh diarrhea emanating from his side of the room.

What I will remember is the Top Shanghai Restaurant in Acroyd Plaza, Richmond.

During my evening spent recovering over some quality made-for-tv movies I tried to kill the time by talking to some of the other patients in my ward. There was an older gentleman whom had had his leg amputated recently and was keen to tell me about the cause and his future rehabilitation plans. He taught me what courage looked like.

Then there was a older Cantonese patient who had both his hands severely bandaged. As he couldn't speak English, I dusted off my marginal Cantonese and had a brief chat with him. What I would learn both shocked and angered me.

This particular patient told me about how he was working at the Top Shanghai Restaurant in Ackroyd Plaza as a Chef when sometime 2 weeks ago an accident occurred. As he was operating the deep-fryer he inadvertently submerged both his hand and forearms into boiling oil.

What is truly shocking and painful about this accident is what the owner/boss of this restaurant did. Although the owner/operator was present at the time as were waitresses and undoubtedly other chefs, the man was told to not declare the accident work related. Furthermore, he was instructed to go to the hospital alone. As his hands were severely burned, with a left hand/arm that are not able to move at least now, he had to walk the 20 minutes or so to the hospital himself.

WALK. He inquired about an ambulance but the owner/operator instructed him that that would not be allowed as WCB would then be aware of the incident and that was unacceptable.

I went ahead and explained to this man, and later our nurse about this incident and he will be talking to WCB independently and amending his admittance statement with a Cantonese doctor. I am glad i was able to clarify how work place accidents and future healthcare/rehab services work in Canada.

Fuck you Peter Ngai. I hope you get fucked.

http://www.foodinspectionweb.vcha.ca/Facility/Show/a1c74282-1468-48fe-b41b-22692c6dba24

Top Shanghai Cuisine Restaurant Ltd
120, 8100 - Ackroyd Road
Richmond BC V6X 3K2
Phone: (604) 278-8798 Primary Owner: Peter Ngai
Fax: Primary Operator: Peter Ngai
Email: Facility Web Site:
Capacity: 0 Service Type: Restaurant - Full Service

March 15, 2010

Inadequate Insect/Rodent Control

Two live cockroaches were observed in the dim sum portion of the kitchen. These were both killed by staff. Dark specks (potentially cockroach droppings) were also observed. Owner immediately started to clean and sanitize this area. No other pests were observed at this time. Premises is currently being serviced once per month.

Clean and sanitize all areas effected by pests. Have an additional pest control servicing. Specifically request advice from your technician to reduce cockroach harbourage and hiding areas. Control sources of food and water that attract or feed pests. Ensure that points of entry or hiding places are controlled. Follow the advice of your pest control company. Note: Successful pest control requires on-going attention by management and staff in the following areas: 1. Monitoring - check for problems regularly (minimum once per week). Correct issues immediately. 2. Cleaning - Control sources of food and water that attract or feed pests. 3. Exclusion/maintenance - control how pests are entering or hiding in your premises. 4. Communication - Maintain good communication between owner/management/staff and pest control company.

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Ch28
08-12-2010, 01:48 AM
That is fucked up!

Good to see you coming through and helping the man explain his situation. I'm going to assume he knew little to no English and was probably bullied by the owner into doing that.

JqC
08-12-2010, 01:52 AM
As much as this story pisses me off, it also doesn't surprise me.

guesswho
08-12-2010, 01:54 AM
the owners pretty fcked up, nice knowing that you're helping him

AccordCouped
08-12-2010, 01:54 AM
ouch.. sounds like we need a RS dine and dash meet

van_driver
08-12-2010, 03:20 AM
Props to you. Sad thing is, this kinda stuff probably happens daily in the lower mainland.

wouwou
08-12-2010, 03:38 AM
holy shit, I thought the waitresses were bad for the times we were there, but this is beyond fucked up.

no decent human being will let that cook walk for 20 mins alone. I mean, at least drive that guy to the hospital for crying out loud.

sonick
08-12-2010, 07:35 AM
That is ridiculous. I hope the restaurant gets what's coming to them! Especially if the burns are so severe he loses full use of his hands.

tacobell
08-12-2010, 08:27 AM
I'm chinese myself and it's disgusting how some of these chinese owned establishments operate. A lot of the owners think they are above the law and don't have to follow the canadian labor code, e.g, they don't provide sick days, no vacation pay, no breaks, don't pay OT, no health, no dental.

If i remember correctly, before T&T was bought by Loblaws, T&T was a known culprit for breaking the labor code. I would of thought, if there was one asian joint following the law, it would of been T&T, guess not.

TRD Rs200
08-12-2010, 08:33 AM
not surprising, i never go there after the bad stories i've heard

Volvoman
08-12-2010, 09:45 AM
i've been in the kitchens of some chinese restaurants delivering produce before. It is really gross back there. Think Kitchen Nightmares style gross. Not to mention calenders with naked chicks on them.

Gumby
08-12-2010, 10:14 AM
i've been in the kitchens of some chinese restaurants delivering produce before. It is really gross back there. Think Kitchen Nightmares style gross. Not to mention calenders with naked chicks on them.
Calendars with naked chicks on them don't bother me - they don't affect the quality of food. But dirty conditions however, I do have a problem with... But what doesn't kill us just makes us stronger, right?

dachinesedude
08-12-2010, 10:18 AM
i think its the chinese mentality of "everyone for themselves"

you lost your arms, what the fuck does that have to do with me? if you go through wcb, its gonna make me lose more money, and i dont wanna lose money for sth i didnt do, you prob did it on purpose too blah blah blah

totally not surprising

flagella
08-12-2010, 10:44 AM
Yep, and this is worse in China. The poor getting abused like there's no tomorrow. They think they can go through with this in Canada, I hope they get fcked hard.

BaoXu
08-12-2010, 10:50 AM
i've been in the kitchens of some chinese restaurants delivering produce before. It is really gross back there. Think Kitchen Nightmares style gross. Not to mention calenders with naked chicks on them.

that's for making the cream of sum yung gai

BaoXu
08-12-2010, 10:52 AM
someone call the restaurant and see if they have deep fried hands on the menu.

jing
08-12-2010, 10:55 AM
that's for making the cream of sum yung gai

LULZ

spoon.ek9
08-12-2010, 11:44 AM
I'm chinese myself and it's disgusting how some of these chinese owned establishments operate. A lot of the owners think they are above the law and don't have to follow the canadian labor code, e.g, they don't provide sick days, no vacation pay, no breaks, don't pay OT, no health, no dental.

If i remember correctly, before T&T was bought by Loblaws, T&T was a known culprit for breaking the labor code. I would of thought, if there was one asian joint following the law, it would of been T&T, guess not.

it's fairly typical. minimum wage for years on end, no stat/holiday pay, absolutely no health benefits, etc.

the reason it persists is because the management will simply say "if you won't do it, someone else will" and sadly, it's true so the cycle perpetuates.

PiuYi
08-12-2010, 12:05 PM
i actually go there fairly regularly but will never eat there again, thanks OP

sleazyho
08-12-2010, 07:44 PM
I always hated that place but my parents always go there. Now I have a reason for them not to go. That's just disgusting.

Culture_Vulture
08-12-2010, 09:03 PM
Every time relatives are in town, that place is always their first choice.
Quite frankly I've never been a big fan of their food. That shit is dipped and tossed around in MSG and their workers are treated like slaves.

simsimi1004
08-12-2010, 09:20 PM
someone send this to the newspaper?

kokanee_vtec
08-12-2010, 09:22 PM
Owner is a piece of shit..Makes me wanna go there and do something stupid. :(

Culture_Vulture
08-12-2010, 09:29 PM
Owner is a piece of shit..Makes me wanna go there and do something stupid. :(
?

deep87
08-12-2010, 09:37 PM
it's fairly typical. minimum wage for years on end, no stat/holiday pay, absolutely no health benefits, etc.

the reason it persists is because the management will simply say "if you won't do it, someone else will" and sadly, it's true so the cycle perpetuates.

the situation is the same in surrey with most east indian owners. Even the seemingly "white" franchises like tim hortons don't always give the minimum 30min paid brake. Full fledged east indian restaurants have an insulting starting rate for the amount of work done by the workers. But I guess as long as people keep working it will happen, at least this exploitation will die with that generation :S

MelonBoy
08-12-2010, 09:49 PM
Fuck.. I was about to say I probably wont eat at this place..
But I realized this place seriously makes one of the best tasting shanghainess food in Vancouver..
Possible hands down the best Shanghai dumplings iv eating so far here..

=( Truly a love hate relationship now ..

monkeywrench
08-12-2010, 09:56 PM
there probably isnt a single chinese restaurant thats completely clean, i can't say for certain but at least a majority isnt

but what that peter ngai individual did was despicable. i hope he does get fucked hard over this incident

glad the OP told the chef/worker what to do :thumbsup:

drunkrussian
08-13-2010, 10:42 AM
As much as this story pisses me off, it also doesn't surprise me.

Props to you. Sad thing is, this kinda stuff probably happens daily in the lower mainland.

+1 unfortunately that's prolly true. Really sad story :-( I hope the restaurant gets shut down and the owner pays the price

q0192837465
08-13-2010, 01:09 PM
i wonder tho. The cook is prolly too scared to do anything cuz the circle for restaurant business is small. Everyone pretty much knows everyone else. If the cook goes thru WCB & get the claim, yes, he will get some money. But what about the future? Other owners may not want to hire him because of this incident.

Gumby
08-13-2010, 01:10 PM
Why do restaurants hate dealing with the WCB? What consequences do they face?

q0192837465
08-13-2010, 01:12 PM
Why do restaurants hate dealing with the WCB? What consequences do they face?

A dollar they pay for compensation is a dollar they dun have anymore.

If you knock a girl up, do you want to pay for abortion?

static
08-13-2010, 03:25 PM
Fuck.. I was about to say I probably wont eat at this place..
But I realized this place seriously makes one of the best tasting shanghainess food in Vancouver..
Possible hands down the best Shanghai dumplings iv eating so far here..

=( Truly a love hate relationship now ..

well, enjoy your food next time and realize that the workers 99% continued using the same oil that cooked a human's hand... medium rare.

Bon Appetite.

RabidRat
08-13-2010, 03:54 PM
A dollar they pay for compensation is a dollar they dun have anymore.

If you knock a girl up, do you want to pay for abortion?

Is there no insurance involved?

tacobell
08-13-2010, 04:33 PM
Why do restaurants hate dealing with the WCB? What consequences do they face?

If a claim is made, their safety procedures, safety standards are reviewed and if not up to par, the owners are required to make the necessary changes to their practices, equipment, etc.

They also face fines by wcb.

impulseX
08-13-2010, 04:36 PM
i wonder tho. The cook is prolly too scared to do anything cuz the circle for restaurant business is small. Everyone pretty much knows everyone else. If the cook goes thru WCB & get the claim, yes, he will get some money. But what about the future? Other owners may not want to hire him because of this incident.

If the burns are really severe... he may not even be able to work in the kitchen anymore. Hopefully he does go through WCB though.
As for others hiring him, I don't see why other's wouldn't hire him just because he went through WCB for a work related accident.

LUUUUUUUU
08-13-2010, 06:55 PM
this happens at a lot of chinese restaurants

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1122+Alberni+St,+Vancouver,+Greater+Vancouve r+Regional+District,+British+Columbia+V6E+1A5&ll=49.237593,-123.048957&spn=0.050157,0.132093&z=14&layer=c&cbll=49.237656,-123.049091&panoid=qwtYhHuxNKedFn7_pNR8SA&cbp=12,241.4,,0,8.68

this place is the worst

dark0821
08-13-2010, 08:27 PM
damn it... i just read abt it..

see..this is on of those times where i wish i aint chinese =.=

Gumby
08-17-2010, 09:07 AM
Just dawned upon me why he "can't" go through WCB.

He was paid cash, "under the table" so to speak.