[Inaii]

So, like the title states, my roadtest for my N is in Richmond, next friday at 3:30. Has anyone taken it there before and maybe has some pointers for me? Or a route that they commonly take? I searched but I didn't see anything, so if this has been discussed already, a link would be most appreciated!

Also some general tips would be appreciated too if anyone is of a mind to share :)

[bcrdukes]

ICBC road tests will have multiple routes and change every day and on every test. There is not specific route so to say. In terms of general pointers, watch out for the dedicated bike lanes as to where you can and cannot enter for right turns.

Don't forgoet - school is out. If you approach a school zone, you are not required to slow down to 30km/h unless it is a double school/park zone or if you see a sign that denotes "Summer School." Only slow down if you see the 30km/h and Summer School sign, otherwise, drive accordingly and watch out for children.

Good luck! :)

[TOPEC]

when they start taking u off of the main roads, its a good bet that theres a school or park somewhere in there. some times the signs r very EASY to miss, so keep ur eyes peeled.

[CorneringArtist]

There's likely gonna be playground zones in there, if the residential areas in Richmond are structured anything like Langley's. Keep an eye out for the signs, especially ones partially blocked by tree branches.

[Slifer]

Make sure your hands are at 2 and 10 on the wheel. When turning, hands must be on the outside of the wheel. Know your hazard perception/parallel parking/3 point turn . I remember when I took the test, the instructor tricked me by telling me to park the car to the side of the road but was a sign that says no parking or there might be a fire hydrant nearby. So make sure to check for signs and only park when you're allowed to. Lastly, make sure you do shoulder checks, don't be afraid to exaggerate on your shoulder checks you want to make sure the instructor see you doing the checks.

That's all I can think of but do a search I'm sure this topic has been covered already..

[Raid3n]

So, like the title states, my roadtest for my N is in Richmond, next friday at 3:30. Has anyone taken it there before and maybe has some pointers for me? Or a route that they commonly take? I searched but I didn't see anything, so if this has been discussed already, a link would be most appreciated!

Also some general tips would be appreciated too if anyone is of a mind to share :)

^lol missed that part did you?

[GabAlmighty]

I did mine drunk, passed with flying colours.

[Porschedog]

Always watch out for school and playground zones. :thumbsup:

[tonyvu]

I did mine drunk, passed with flying colours.


why would you even drive drunk

[Slifer]

^lol missed that part did you?

Ooops, anyways I did a search and found a few threads regarding this topic

These should be useful to you:-

http://www.revscene.net/forums/class-7-road-t159302.html?t=159302&highlight=n+test

http://www.revscene.net/forums/l-n-roadtest-t282312.html?t=282312&highlight=n+road+test

[GabAlmighty]

why would you even drive drunk

Because it's the safest way to travel...

[Inaii]

Neither are specifically for Richmond. I was asking mostly for tips on routes that the Richmond instructors take you on, since I am not very familiar with the area and wanted to have do my 1 hour warm-up on a route they're likely to choose. The general tips was an afterthought and very much appreciated :)

But thank you for looking and finding those for me! I did a search but I guess putting richmond in the search threw off the results.

[iambuRnz]

why dont you take the test on a more familiar road?

[Inaii]

I can't do hills, so that cancels everywhere else out :p besides, I'm not familiar with very many roads period.

[bcrdukes]

I did my Class 7 test in Richmond and passed on my first attempt even though I was unfamiliar with the roads. It is best to do your test in unfamiliar areas since you'll be on higher alert as opposed to an area you're familiar with, you'll likely repeat your bad habits and make mistakes.

[orgasm_donor]

When turning left at a traffic light do not creep up behind the guy turning left in front of you and squeeze in behind him as the light turns yellow - only one at a time theoritically! Testers are pretty tough on this one.

Shoulder check when turning right around a corner (check for bikes). This is another easily forgettable thing they test on.

[bcrdukes]

This (http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124746) might help with your road test being in Richmond.

[kchan]

also, if the instructor tells you to go on West Minister rd, the section between Garden City and No.4 is a 50km/h zone only after you pass no.5 and onto Shell rd it turns to a 60km/h but if you take that route you'll most likely turn left on No.4 then onto Odlin park after Alderbridge and into the neighborhood with cul-de-sacs etc.

no school zone there but watch out for kids around and other learners nearby lol and dont park near mailboxes around the park because your instructor will most likely tell you to do that.

[fliptuner]

I can't do hills, so that cancels everywhere else out :p besides, I'm not familiar with very many roads period.

I should fail you for this. lol

Are you doing the test in a 5spd? Cause otherwise I don't get it.

If you want to be on the safe side, take a lesson in Richmond, by the MVB for an hour, before the test. Then take the test in the driving school car.

I don't know if they still test this or not but if they make you do a straight backup, make sure your hand is on the 12 position on the wheel. This is true for parallel parking too. That's the only thing I got point for.

[taylor192]

When turning left at a traffic light do not creep up behind the guy turning left in front of you and squeeze in behind him as the light turns yellow - only one at a time theoritically! Testers are pretty tough on this one.

They are tough on this cause the car typically blocks the crosswalk when doing this, and you can get stuck stopped on the crosswalk if you cannot go in time.

[taylor192]

I met a young female evaluator in Richmond at a party. Se had tons of fun stories of various reasons people fail. Basically just drive normally and pay attention to the signs. You might get a few marks, yet you'll pass. Its the people who are overly nervous and very passive who fail.

Are you going from L to N?

[Inaii]

Lol, Flip go ahead, I don't care about fails. I was going to take it in my fb, but I'm now taking it in an auto. I also heard coq/bby is really hard to pass.

Thank you Mike for that link! It helps a lot!

Taylor, yep from L to N. Nervous, but I have 2 lessons the 2 days before my test and then an hour before the test itself to work everything out :)

[Vulcan300]

Your instructor should know the general roadtest routes, just ask him to take you around to familiarize with the area. Some pointers that I was taught, look take a glance both ways at every intersection to make sure cars aren't going to come speeding out. Also remember to check both ways before crossing the railway track. Know your hazard perception, and be able to back into a stall.

[CP.AR]

I wrote this HUGE long list I wrote for my friend in preparation for his test... hope it helps!


Before you leave your house
o All signal lights work (no broken glass)
o Headlights work (high and lowbeam)
o All brakelights work
o Horn works
o Wipers work
**the slightest problem with your car and they will deem it “unsafe”

- Shoulder Checks when you:
o Lane change
o Turn left (right before you actually turn)
o Turn right (right before you actually turn)
o Make sure you actually twist your body when shoulder checking, or else they will classify it as a “head turning”, thus failing you

- Red Lights, Green Lights, Yellow Lights
o When I was tested they brought me out to No.3 where there were hidden Left Turn Signals EVERYWHERE. Watch out for those
o Make sure when you pass an intersection with a “Green light”
Always scan the road by looking “left, center, right”
o Try to the best of your ability to avoid yellow lights crossings, that means anticipate the lights, and look for patterns (pedestrian crossing lights, cars piled up on the intersecting road)

- Speed
o All roads in Richmond are 50km/h except
School zones – 30km/h (they really really have no leniency on this one, go over 30 and you fail)
• School zones officially start where the sign is, and end where the opposite sign is
Garden City from Cambie to Westminster (60km/h)
Alderbridge from Shell to Garden City (60km/h)

- Stopping (red lights, stop signs, whatever)
o Make sure you come to a COMPLETE STOP DO NOT ROLL
o If there is a car in front of you, leave a sufficient gap such that
You can see the rear wheels of the car ahead of you with ease

- Turning (left)
o Remember, only one car is allowed to be “out” in the middle of the intersection of any given time, meaning that you are STOPPED behind the double white lines if there is another car waiting to turn left
o Car must be straight (don’t “lean” your car out, keep it straight)
o If you must turn at a yellow light, make sure the other car is stopped/or is about to stop
o SHOULDER CHECK JUST BEFORE YOU TURN

- Turning (Right)
o If there is a stop sign, you must come to a complete halt for the stop sign before proceeding to poke your head out
o Watch for any people crossing
o SHOULDER CHECK JUST BEFORE YOU TURN

- Hazard Perception
o At any given time the examiner will ask you to “pull over when safe”
o Pull over, making sure
You are nowhere near a fire hydrant
You are pulled over in an area you are allowed to parallel park
• (ie: watch out for no parking signs)
o He/she will then ask you “please identify some hazards you see in this immediate area”
They list a bunch of them in that book they give you when you got your L, but here are some common ones
• Driveways, cars might come out
• Fire hydrants
• School zones
• Speed bumps
• Rain
• Glare from the sun
• Crosswalks
Just keep pointing random BS out, when they got the idea that you know what you are doing, they will ask you to stop

- Parallel Parking
o You are allowed as much time as you need, and it is up to you to find a spot when they ask to you park, so pick a spot where there are either no cars, or an oversized spot to make your life easier
o Always Signal
o Before engaging reverse, do a 360 degree check.
o Reverse, when the area is clear. STOP IF THERE IS A CAR COMING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, continue after they pass you
o Your car must be not touching the curb, and no more than a clipboard away (the longer side)

- Pulling Over
o Essentially the same thing as parallel parking, but you are expected to just “Dive into the spot”
o Watch for “no parking signs”
o MAKE SURE YOU SHOULDER CHECK BEFORE SIGNALLING+DIVING IN!
o The guy was nice to me, he said he could have failed me for that.

- Pulling Out
1. 360 degree check before you move
2. Signal
3. Shoulder Check
4. Move

[monkeywrench]

If you need an instructor to review most of the possible roads that will appear during the test and what to actually do on the test, my dad can help you review all that

If you're in Richmond you get a discount :D

PM me if you need an instructor

Just remember your driving style must be different than when you are driving casually, GL!

[cho]

Make sure your hands are at 2 and 10 on the wheel. When turning, hands must be on the outside of the wheel. Know your hazard perception/parallel parking/3 point turn . I remember when I took the test, the instructor tricked me by telling me to park the car to the side of the road but was a sign that says no parking or there might be a fire hydrant nearby. So make sure to check for signs and only park when you're allowed to. Lastly, make sure you do shoulder checks, don't be afraid to exaggerate on your shoulder checks you want to make sure the instructor see you doing the checks.

That's all I can think of but do a search I'm sure this topic has been covered already..

when i took my N, i had my hands on 8 and 4, and he never said anything hum

[cctw]

oh yea when ur on garden city....from granville to westmin is 50 and after its 60

and..just make ur shoulder checks REALLY OBVIOUS..cos some instructors tend to dock marks if they think you do a half-assed shoulder check and dont turn your head enough

[fliptuner]

I have 2 lessons the 2 days before my test and then an hour before the test itself to work everything out :)

This^^^ and common sense = pass.

[FerrariEnzo]

Shoulder checking is very important..

NEVER CHANGE LANES in the intersection... ive seen soo many people do this...

follow signs, they wont lie.. Make sure to memorize what all the lines on the ground mean...

at the stop line or traffic lights, make sure you stop so you can see the STOP LINE in front of you, close to it but not so you cant see it... some intructors are picky about this...

[FerrariEnzo]

Taylor, yep from L to N. Nervous, but I have 2 lessons the 2 days before my test and then an hour before the test itself to work everything out :)

haha i never took any lessons... i passed my roadtest on first try in the snow!! :thumbsup:

[nabs]

I did my class 7 in richmond as well. It was pretty easy. Watch out for signs. No hills or sloped roads so it should be fine.

[cctw]

oh yes just to add...try to avoid going through the intersection when the light turn yellow..
ALWAYS try to stop if possible.

if you can't stop..then just roll at the same speed through the intersection and don't step on the gas...the instructors absolutely hate this...almost failed me cos he said I could've stopped and shouldn't have stepped on the gas to make it through the intersection.

[hchang]

I know how you feel, I was running around everywhere asking people for tips before I went for my test. They're more strict on Class 7 test than they are on the Class 5.

When you're pulling out of ICBC, the Stop Sign before you hit the road is slanted/turned to the right, my instructor told me not to worry about that because it's meant for the other traffic getting out but I stopped anyways, because I heard that people have failed for blowing through that.

If you look to the left you will see a fire hydrant, the examiners will deem it "unsafe" if you pull out if there are cars that have already passed the Fire Hydrant, so wait until there is no traffic, or if the cars are far behind that fire hydrant. Take your time on it, I had to cut through 3 lanes to turn left from a residential area onto Gilbert Road. I was literally stopped there for at least 3 minutes signalling and waiting for a "safe" amount of space to turn out.

If you get an asian examiner, and I think there are 2 or 3, never go slow. You need to accelerate at a quicker pace and brake at a later time. All of those 2 or 3 guys hate it when people go slow. These guys are the hardest to get a pass on.

If you get a tall black dude, just sit back and relax. My friend said he told her to turn on the music so it wouldn't be awkward, and he was just looking out the window throughout the whole test.

If you get a Russian Lady, exaggerate your shoulder checking movements.

If you get a dude with dark brown hair, that's pretty much a guarantee pass as well, as long as if you can drive like a normal person. He's more lenient towards everything.

Honestly dude, I don't understand how people can manage to fail their drivers test, as long as if you can actually drive, you're safe. And it won't matter where you take your test, it's all the same shit.

If you're already taking two lessons before you go in to take your test, then don't sweat it.

Remember to:
- Adjust all your mirrors and seats prior to getting to ICBC
- Get in the car and listen to the examiner's orders
- Exaggerate Shoulder Checks
- Signal well in advance
- Stay in the right lane at all times if you can

[RevYouUp]

yea i had the dude with brown hair...the test was so easy. Good luck :thumbsup:

[bcrdukes]

Holy shit you have it down to the DIME! :lol

[Inaii]

Hchang that is amazing info!!!! Ty so much :D I'll thank you when I get home!
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[Vale46Rossi]

If you get a tall black dude, just sit back and relax. My friend said he told her to turn on the music so it wouldn't be awkward, and he was just looking out the window throughout the whole test.


^^^

IT'S GARRY! He is awesome.


Also remember to shoulder check when they asked you to open your door!

If you don't its unsafe.

[rk604]

always shoulder check whenever you do a stop, i know someone who failed it before getting out of the parking lot.

1 Point = Instructor tells you to pull out of the stall, you have to shoulder check both left and right (regardless if your backing up or going forward)
1 Point = Since he was backing up, he had to shoulder check to move on forward, and he forgot
1 Point = Before turning onto the street, you have to move to lane position 3, so you have to shoulder check, come to a complete stop, shoulder check again before turning, then follow through.


Anyways, take your time, exaggerate your shoulder checks, and occasionally abuse the "tapping your helmet" thing. It means that you didn't hear what they said, so you keep going straight instead of turning if they instruct you to do so. They would have to recalculate the route and it'll burn you some time.

Make sure you speed up to speed limit on highway. I got a warning for not speeding up fast enough, but i blamed it on the PRS sherpaa :p

Keep an eye for school zones, and make sure to use the brakes when you see speed bumps so they know that you are slowing down. Ya kinda obvious, but some people just engine brake and they won't be able to tell if you are braking or not.

Put colourful tape on your helmet if you have a dark solid colour helmet so they can see that your actually turning your head when you shoulder check, etc

Look left and right EVERY intersection (intersection = where traffic lights are)

Don't forget to cancel your signals

Do A.D.D check to make sure your first gear when your at a stop, so you don't stall it trying to go at 2nd gear



ICBC test for riding is ridiculous, they mind aswell hand you the license without testing you. But nonetheless, you still have to pass it to show them that you can ride "safely" according to their books. I wouldn't worry too much, just go out and ride to make yourself feeel comfortable

[FerrariEnzo]

BEFORE you start the engine..

CHECK your lights first!!!! very important!!! if you dont, you will be points taken off..

[rk604]

^^^
Really?...

I never checked my lights, and neither did a buddy of mine that did it. I think it's part of the evaluator's procedures...cause they ask you to turn the key to on, but don't start the bike. Then light check, high beams, signals, brake, hand signals...then your off...

[Inaii]

Lol guys, not doing a bike test, its my N for car driving :) bcrdukes was just giving me some information on things to watch out for.

[FerrariEnzo]

^^^
Really?...

I never checked my lights, and neither did a buddy of mine that did it. I think it's part of the evaluator's procedures...cause they ask you to turn the key to on, but don't start the bike. Then light check, high beams, signals, brake, hand signals...then your off...

well now that i think about it, i think you turn to the acc. mode... bah.. i forgot.. its been 14 years since i did my roadtest!

[sean_wong]

haha i never took any lessons... i passed my roadtest on first try in the snow!! :thumbsup:

Nice. Douchebag bragging. Why aren't you in pole position when WRC, F1 and MotoGP seasons starts?

[FerrariEnzo]

Nice. Douchebag bragging. Why aren't you in pole position when WRC, F1 and MotoGP seasons starts?
i didnt say that i passed it with flying colors...

if i was braggin, i would have told you how long it took, what route, what procedures and so on...... so relax..

[Inaii]

Okay guys, that's enough. I actually appreciated FerrariEnzo's comment. I took it as simple reassurance that if he could pass with no lessons, then I could pass too since I'm taking lessons. No harm, no foul. Now quiet :p

[nabs]

one area that i heard they took all my friends through and myself as well. watch out for the No right turns on Red Light area. i forget where that was.

[monkeywrench]

one area that i heard they took all my friends through and myself as well. watch out for the No right turns on Red Light area. i forget where that was.

Somewhere along westminster? Towards the gilbert area I think?

[hchang]

I took my test at 3:30 as well, it was a bad selection to be honest, but you're a lot safer because when I was doing my test it was when school was still in session I was taken through school zones and was stuck there for the longest time waiting for C-Lai's to pick up their kids.

Here's the roads that I took from what I remember.

Right outside ICBC.

Left onto Alderbridge. (If you cannot make the left turn just stay in the right lane and say you didn't have a "safe" distance to get into the left lane) And also, right when you turn out of ICBC there is a stop light really closeby, don't get too excited and gun it when you see space.

Pulled over on the side of the road in front of Tim Hortons.

Left onto Cedarbridge way then pulled over and reversed along the curb.

Right onto Elmbridge

Left onto Gilbert.

Then right onto either Lucas or Donald Road which made me hit a school zone, and then parallel parked on one of those roads, hazard perception etc etc.

Then backtracked to pretty much the same roads.

I waited a good 3 mins as mentioned in my last post to left turn back onto Gilbert because I had to cut through three lanes.

Another pretty popular route is around Dover Park to parallel park and etc, that one might be a bit harder because the cars there are tighter towards each other.

You can do it! Take a deep breath, relax, and drive!

Good luck!

[falcon]

If you can't figure out how to pass the test on your own you shouldn't be on the road. Richmond... lol. STAY AWAY.

[StealthFighter]

i don't know if it was mentioned already. but for the route that i took, there's a left turn into a side street. the street is separated with an island with big hedges in the middle. so if you get confused, you'll turn on the oncoming lane. make sure you go past the hedges.

i got a white dude that's kinda chubby. he was pretty nice. he talked about girls in short skirts during the test. i got it on the first try, learned from my dad.

for my class 5, i got an instructor to make sure i didn't pick up any bad habits. so if you can before your test, try to find an instructor to observe your driving for an hour.

[Inaii]

Lawl, okay, so I know this doesn't really have much to do with my topic, but I thought it was amusing. I had my first lesson last night, my driving instructor has decided that "L" drivers, should always drive below the speed limit on their test (he specifically said 40-45km/hr). His reason? It might "scare" the examiner if I drive at the speed limit. Please tell me not all driving instructors think like this? That would just cause more problems than need be.

[RevYouUp]

hmm what a retarded instructor..I think you can fail for driving too slow >.> find a new one

[Inaii]

Exam is tomorrow. He was much better today. Not even a peep when I did 60 coming down boundary hill.

[monkeywrench]

Lawl, okay, so I know this doesn't really have much to do with my topic, but I thought it was amusing. I had my first lesson last night, my driving instructor has decided that "L" drivers, should always drive below the speed limit on their test (he specifically said 40-45km/hr). His reason? It might "scare" the examiner if I drive at the speed limit. Please tell me not all driving instructors think like this? That would just cause more problems than need be.

He is definitely wrong on that one. You MUST stay at 50 during a 50 zone, 60 during a 60 zone. Make sure you remember what areas are 50 and what are 60.

Going over the speed limit in the specific location can deduct you points. Look out for steep hills and keep your speed

Good luck

[cctw]

Lawl, okay, so I know this doesn't really have much to do with my topic, but I thought it was amusing. I had my first lesson last night, my driving instructor has decided that "L" drivers, should always drive below the speed limit on their test (he specifically said 40-45km/hr). His reason? It might "scare" the examiner if I drive at the speed limit. Please tell me not all driving instructors think like this? That would just cause more problems than need be.

should be between 45 to 50...40 is way too slow...I'd stay around 47 just to give yourself a little room for error or if you need to speed up to switch lanes..

some instructors don't mind a little over 50 when you need to..but there are a few in richmond branch that are super picky abt it

OH...just remembered...if you've been at the icbc in richmond...if you go out the exit to minoru...just rmb its 2 shoulder checks..not one..and you have to put on the right turn signal twice...cos technically its one right turn out back to the straightaway..and immediately shoulder check for the right turn out to minoru..

i've seen ppl fail cos they thought it was one big turn..

[nabs]

i stayed 45 during my roadtest in richmond. the whole time, unless in a school zone. i don't think i went to a place which was 60. But i wouldn't go over the limit on a test regardless.

If you have an asshole examiner, he could fail you on the basis of dangerous driving on the spot.

[StealthFighter]

going too slow can fail you, going to fast can fail you. stay between 45-55 in a 50 zone. most preferably 50.

[hchang]

Did you pass!?

[you!]

wow 3 pages of advice just to pass an N test?
can't believe the op couldn't find any old threads after doing a search while being an rs mod at the same time..talk about being lazy

[Inaii]

As I said, I was looking for SPECIFIC information on RICHMOND.

And no, I didn't pass. Failed for not shoulder checking while parking and forgetting my 360 checks.
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[subordinate]

You'll pass on your next try.

Those 360 checks are definitely a must, along with exaggerating a shoulder check.

[rk604]

wow fail....i read class 6/8, but its class 7 lol....

[dink]

hope i dont fail my class 6

[Inaii]

Lol rk604, I even told you it was for my class 7 :p

[Amuse]

Urgent: I forgot but is there 3 point turns, parallel parking, and hazard perception in the class 7 road test? Just general driving and parking?
A 360 is when reversing? So left mirror, shoulder check left, rear view mirror, shoulder check right, right mirror. Then reverse?
What if you do this before parking, then you drive forward a bit, then do you have to do a 360 again when you continue reversing into the stall?

[hchang]

Yes, there are 3 point turns, parallel parking and also hazard perception questions for the Class 7 N Test.

[Fafine]

i dont remember doing a three point turn.

[hchang]

I didn't have to do it on my test either.

But it was in the handbook and my instructor made me to it countless times.

[Fafine]

pretty sure they took that out

[hchang]

A 360 is when reversing? So left mirror, shoulder check left, rear view mirror, shoulder check right, right mirror. Then reverse?
What if you do this before parking, then you drive forward a bit, then do you have to do a 360 again when you continue reversing into the stall?

A 360 is when you should know all your surroundings so yes, generally when you're reversing.

From what I remember I shifted into Reverse, Left Mirror, Rearview Mirror, Right Mirror, Shoulder Check Left, then Shoulder checked right, looked back, and reversed.

While reversing be sure to scan the front every 2 to 3 seconds or so.

360 degree is as long as you know your surroundings, so I don't think the orders matter too much as long as you follow through with all of them.

Yes, if you're reverse stall parking, 360 degree check again.

[GDChoi]

if you take no.4 road route watch for play grounds there is one sign 1/2 blocked off by a branch near odlin. One mistake I made on my N test was when you and turning left on a 3 lane road ur allowed to tilt ur wheel left a little waiting for traffic(thats what i did) but the instructor said at the end of the test when you tilt it remember to tilt it back straight because if someone was to rear end u, youd go straight instead of into the traffic(bunch of bs really) and just relax its a piece of cake its harder to actually fail then to pass unless of course your a complete moron, youll do fine oh and remember to stop for 2 seconds at stop signs

[hchang]

if you take no.4 road route watch for play grounds there is one sign 1/2 blocked off by a branch near odlin. One mistake I made on my N test was when you and turning left on a 3 lane road ur allowed to tilt ur wheel left a little waiting for traffic(thats what i did) but the instructor said at the end of the test when you tilt it remember to tilt it back straight because if someone was to rear end u, youd go straight instead of into the traffic(bunch of bs really) and just relax its a piece of cake its harder to actually fail then to pass unless of course your a complete moron, youll do fine oh and remember to stop for 2 seconds at stop signs

Somebody obviously didn't read the whole thread...

OP failed... so I guess you just kind of called him a "complete moron", huh?

[Inaii]

Her, actually :) And if he thinks I'm a moron, oh well. No skin off my nose :) I don't know him.

Oh, I also didn't have to do a 3 point turn. He made me pull into a residential area with lots of driveways, so I was expecting him to ask me to do the 3pt. He asked me to pretend to be parking downhill. I botched that completely, forgot to signal and shoulder/360 check (didn't even occur to me as I was already parked). No u-turns as well, even though it's on the test sheet.

[GDChoi]

Sorry "her" and I didnt mean it that way hehehe mah bad

[FerrariEnzo]

And no, I didn't pass. Failed for not shoulder checking while parking and forgetting my 360 checks.

so you just looked in the mirror to park???? what was it, reverse or parallel parking?


everyones told you to do lots of shoulder checking and yet you still dont do it.. so why ask for advice? im stumped?