[St00k]

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2010/08/honda-canada-rumored-to-drop-insight-civic-hybrid.html

Honda may drop both the Civic Hybrid and the Insight from its lineup in Canada. According to a recent report by Monvolant, the two hybrids will be eliminated from the product plan – likely in response to dismally poor sales. This would then leave the new CR-Z as the only hybrid in Honda Canada’s lineup.

When the Insight launched over a year ago, Honda Canada projected sales of 10,000 units. But poor press, a high-dollar asking price and competition from the third-generation Toyota Prius may all be contributing factors to the fact that just 748 Insights have been sold so far this year. Worse still are Civic Hybrid sales, with just 643 units moved in 2010.

With such low Honda hybrid sales you’d expect the Prius to be conquesting a lot of buyers, but that doesn’t appear to be the case with just 2,272 third-gen Prius models sold in Canada so far this year. While there are no hard facts surrounding why Canadians are turning away from hybrids, possible factors include the higher price of the cars in Canada, the lack of large urbanized cities (Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal stand out as exceptions) and the colder climate often means hybrids don’t perform up to their lofty MPG targets.

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/55306-3/2010-honda-insight-06.jpg

[Bender Unit]

TreeHugger don't drive period

[mpr]

if you ever want one. it is time to buy.

$4000 off rebate. wow!

[Spectre_Cdn]

good riddance

[Presto]

Honda's IMA is vastly inferior to Toyota's HSD, and Ford's similar hybrid drive. Honda recently released a 'fix' which limits electric motor usage, which has negatively affected fuel economy. There are discussions that this was done to increase the life of the battery, due to reports of dying power packs. Honda's IMA apparently deep-cycles the battery, and that's bad for longevity. Toyota's HSD only uses 40% of it's battery capacity, keeping the state of charge in a range of 40-80%.

[hk20000]

Just make us more sports cars, please.

[tofu1413]

more 9000RPM, Stick shift, double wishboned, lightweight, shortwheel base cars please.

[keifun]

thank you! :D

[PiuYi]

don't know why anyone would get a civic hybrid.... doesn't the civic already get like 7.6L/100km?....
seriously, how much more fuel efficient do you want? a car that produces gasoline as it drives perhaps?

[TRD Rs200]

not surprised if they drop civic hybird and insight, they dont sell at all

[Senna4ever]

don't know why anyone would get a civic hybrid.... doesn't the civic already get like 7.6L/100km?....
seriously, how much more fuel efficient do you want? a car that produces gasoline as it drives perhaps?
...because at 4.6L~5.2L/100km, that means monthly fill-ups of about $45 for me. :)

[Culverin]

kinda wish they make a sports model of the CR-Z,
looks totally sick to me.

I wonder how it compares to the Insight?

[toyota86]

i guess honda really wants tree huggers to buy a cr-z

screw hybrids. i want euro diesels. a renault clio 1.5 diesel 6spd can average 4.5l/100km easy. 1000km per fill up and still manage to hit 200km on the autobahn with a bit of a tail wind.

[dinamix]

http://www.greenpacks.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/honda-insight-1.jpg
or
http://www.dymee.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/200909/a9f9b_2010_Toyota_Prius.jpg

the toyota looks so much better than the insight.

Honda should drop that hideous crosstour too.

They should retro the EG. My EG is getting better mpg than my yaris.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

get rid of those useless cars

[TOS'd]

Bring back the nsx!

[unit]

just curious: do hybrid owners feel very smug looking around a busy gas station as they fill up their cars?

[oldsnail]

i had an 02 honda insight, 2 seater .. 5 spd.. i do get really good fuel economy...average around 4L/100km..even lesss if i go on long trips.. the new one is an odd ball.. it seems like the new CR-Z replaced the old inisght ..both being 2 seats, both offered in standard..

it is still very peppy for it being fairly light. and even if i had a heavy footed week.. i would still get around 5L/100kms due to its 1L engine..

i chose the old 2 seater insight because i dont want a smart car..

[death_blossom]

just curious: do hybrid owners feel very smug looking around a busy gas station as they fill up their cars?
`^
according to southpark, yes.

[gilly]

they should get rid of those hybrid rims.

[1exotic]

need more RWD cars not Wrong-Wheel-Drive

[crazyazn]

more 9000RPM, Stick shift only, double wishboned, lightweight, shortwheel base, RWD cars please.

Fixed.

[insomniac]

more 9000RPM, Stick shift, double wishboned, lightweight, shortwheel base cars please.

honda needs to get back in the game...

[tofu1413]

Fixed.

thank you :)



I dont mind their great FF type R models too... we need CTR's ITR's..... and have something similar to the Accord SiR of back then..

a sports coupe the size of an S2000 would be great... a MR car thats around 30-40k would be nice too.

peaky vtec would be nice... :D

[hk20000]

^ Is the Civic Si unavailable at your local dealership? We need variety.

[orange7]

i knew hybrids would fail in Canada in general.



we have snow
we have mountains and steep hills
we have long stretches of highways
we are big and heavy
we like to carry tools in our trunk for no god dam reason

we have the greatest back door in the world, and no hybrid is going to be able to carry our canoes, kayaks, trailers, a team worth of hockey equipment, mountain bikes, etc.

we need cars that have torque to get to those fun places, and roomy cars for those long trips to a beautiful camping lake.


this is just for Canada in general, not just vancouver.


fun/track cars are an exception.

[carmaniac]

Not cancelled, just not ordering more for now:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/08/25/update-honda-canada-not-canceling-insight-civic-hybrids-will/

Remember the report from Quebec that suggested Honda Canada would be discontinuing the Insight and Civic hybrid for the 2011 model year due to poor sales? According to company spokesman Richard Jacobs, the two hybrids have not in fact been discontinued. Instead, Jacobs tells us that Canadian dealers currently have a six month supply of the Insight and Civic so it hasn't ordered any new cars from the factories in Japan.

"Honda Canada will listen to the voice of our customers and will bring the products they want," says Jacobs. Both hybrids will remain available and Honda will be monitoring inventories and customer demand to determine when to order more units. Perhaps the launch of the CR-Z will get customers to reconsider its siblings as well.

[tofu1413]

im sorry, but no bau tec, no buy.

[q0192837465]

Though Vancouver gas is the most expensive in Canada, it is still very affordable. There's really no incentive to go hybrid. The fact that it takes years to recover the initial cost (and we'r not even considering inflation) is not appealing at all