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RiceIntegraRS
09-06-2010, 12:19 PM
Wanted to get other peoples opinions on sticks since i believe alot of people here actually play alot of ice hockey and hopefully everyone could review what they use and what not to get.
Ive been playing ice hockey in ice604 for 2 full years now. I play center and im a Goal Per Game player. My main shot is a wrist shot while i probably have the worst slap shot ever.
Reebok Talon Stick Datsyuk Curve 75 Flex
This is the first stick i bought ever and it was only $30 at The Hockey Shop. So i bought 2. I had really good wristshots with this stick and it was extremely durable not too heavy. To this day i still have both sticks still in tacked but the blade is basically chipping away. I wish i bought more of this stick
Reebok SicKick 2 8K Datsyuk Curve 75 Flex
My friends bought me this stick and it was actually a really good stick. Extremely light and my wrist shots improved and i was extremely accurate with them until this stick broke about 6-8 Games after. And alot of other people have said that this stick breaks pretty easily. If this stick was more durable would easily be one of my favorite sticks
Bauer Supreme One95 Malkin Curve 102 Flex
My older brother bought me this stick and he lives and dies by this one. He probably has the hardest shot on my team with this stick, really durable and really light. But me being more of a wrist shot guy, i kinda struggled to score goals with this stick. But i noticed that my slap shot drastically improved using this stick.
Bauer Vapor X-Rival Backstrom Curve 87 Flex
So i thought to myself, i scored alot more goals with the cheap ass sticks, so i saw this one at The Hockey Shop for $50 and thought to myself why not give it a try. It was heavier than the one95 but i did start scoring goals again but i did break it in my 2nd game during warmup practising a slapshot. THS game me a replacement stick and its been pretty decent ever since but i do feel like it could break on me at any time.
Im gonna start using my brothers Bauer Supreme One55 stick in the beginning of this upcoming season and see how that goes but if anyone has any suggestions to what stick i should buy next that would be awesome or curve/flex i should be using to improve my game it would be greatly appreciated.
Jgresch
09-06-2010, 12:28 PM
, I've used synergys for the last 9 years. With a few stealths here and there... I've tried a few reebok sticks bit they don't feel right to me. Currently using an s19 stealth 110 Sakic and it's perfect :)
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riccof
09-06-2010, 01:18 PM
I'm currently using Warrior AK27 87 flex with a One95 P92 pattern. I don't understand how many people I see are plating with such stiff shafts. The highest flex I've ever used is a 100 flex synergy years ago and I found it too stiff.
And the fact that Chara uses like a 130 with his size and strength, Ovechkin uses like a 85, and Brett Hull who had arguably one of the best one timers in his time, used something like a 65 flex.
RayBot
09-06-2010, 02:23 PM
I use the Warrior Bentley. Imo, the best stick you can get for less than a $100. After a year of abuse, its still going well....even with a chipped bottom. Usually when OPS have chipped bottoms, it drastically starts effecting the durabilty of the blade.
Anyways, the one brand of sticks that I completely avoid nowadays are the RBK ops'. Ive had three, and all three have the same problem.....the toes chipped away very fast, so that effected my stick play quite a bit. So having that problem with 3 different kind of RBK sticks, not going back to those.
Spidey
09-06-2010, 02:31 PM
this past summer i played in ice604, but will go back to my ashl team for the winter and probably in the long run.
imo, easton has the worst durability (blade)... but since you dont take many slappers, then you might be fine... i never had an easton stick last beyond the warranty date... the most durable sticks i have used are the bauer one95 and warrior dolomite sticks. the one95 is by far the best stick i have used oin terms of weight since it is a tad heavier than the x60, flex and kick (i love how the puck lanuches), and the blade is super strong. i broke my from smashing it not from regualr wear. i do stay away completely from tps and eastons though, as their baldes are so brittle its not even funny.
for now... i am a warrior guy until it breaks.. but will religously use the one95 until they stop making it.. then i will prob be forced to try the x60 and or totalone stick... i generally dont use anything lower than last years top model.. because unlike some people, i actualy do feel a difference.. im 5'11 and 165 lbs.. I prewfer an 87 flex. good wrister and good slapper.
Jgresch
09-06-2010, 02:49 PM
I'm currently using Warrior AK27 87 flex with a One95 P92 pattern. I don't understand how many people I see are plating with such stiff shafts. The highest flex I've ever used is a 100 flex synergy years ago and I found it too stiff.
And the fact that Chara uses like a 130 with his size and strength, Ovechkin uses like a 85, and Brett Hull who had arguably one of the best one timers in his time, used something like a 65 flex.
hull used a 75 0_o I couldn't believe that. I'm very slim, and by no means strong lol, but I stick to 100+ flex because I easily break everything else. I went with 85 a couple times, and after a few clappers they would be in half...
I have tryouts tomorrow and I just got some Bauer one75 gloves i'm stoked to use....
SumAznGuy
09-06-2010, 03:12 PM
I'm 5'7", 200+ lbs and I like my sticks below my chin when I am standing up.
Currently, I am using One95's Backstrom 75 flex with the sticks cut to about a 94 flex. I love this stick.
I am usually a d-man so I take lots of point shots, and I really lean into the point shots.
My last sticks were a 100 flex Lidstrom S17 and a 100 flex Sakic S17.
I broke the blade on the Lidstrom going into the corner to fight for the puck. So far the Sakic hasn't broken yet, but I don't like the feel of this stick. It feels really stiff for a 100 flex that is chopped, and the blade feels really flimsy.
Before that, I had a bought a bunch of the Warrior Macdaddy's Kovalev 100 flex. I loved this stick but went through 5 of them in a year and a half. Most of them wore out. The blades would start to flex and everyone of my slap shots were knuckle balls. The newer sticks with the Splyne blades were supposed to address this issue, but I've already switched to Bauer's so I probably won't be going back any time soon.
I had a Bauer Vapour 7 and liked the slapshots and wristshots from it, but it was a 102 flex Naslund chopped, but I find it quite heavy.
mickz
09-06-2010, 09:41 PM
If you like to take a lot of wrist shots you will benefit a bit more from a stick like the XXXX or X:60. The ONE95 has a higher kickpoint and is more of a stick where you can lean into your heavy shots. What hand do you shoot? The Canucks Team Store outlet has a few brand new sticks for $100, if you're lefty that is.
But for myself I've been rotating between Bauer and Warrior sticks as of late. I've been happy with my Dolomites so far, I've gotten at least a year of use out of each of them before they developed cracks. I sold my Bauer ONE95 recently because I have a custom stick from Base Hockey on the way and there's not enough time to use everything I own. The ONE95 is the most well balanced stick I have used but I just prefer the shaft profile and feel of the Dolomites.
True.True
09-07-2010, 01:26 AM
ive gone through 5 RBK 7ks intermediate flexes. best sticks ive used price wise but theyre just too brittle. not bad at $60 each. now im using an x:60 and synergy st. both are great!! i broke my dolomite after only 2 uses so i cant really comment on it yet
cdizzle_996
09-07-2010, 05:52 AM
I'm 5'9, 165 and play D. Im using a X60 Malkin, cut to about a 112. Its perfect for slapshots. My back up stick is a one95 Malkin cut to about a 94, i find wrist and snap shots are much easier with this stick. The x60 has been really durable, i've played 25 games of div 1 with it, and is showing no real signs of wear.
For some people who don't know..
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Leopold Stotch
09-07-2010, 03:35 PM
^ i love my X60!!
i'm 5'10" about 165lbs. and i play right wing.
My composite sticks in chronological order
Bauer Vapor 16 67 flex Naslund P92 curve
I came from a wood/fibre glass stick with a similar Easton Yzerman Curve so i went for the P92 curve. i liked the stick, it was my first composite, it was a bit thin, and i found it too short for me so i put an extension in it, couldn't slap shot with it, but wrist shots were awesome! was pretty damn durable actually.
Bauer Vapor 40 67 Flex Naslund P92 Curve
Got this because someone was selling it and it was too good to pass it, was my favourite stick until i got my x60, it was ridiculously light and the wrist shots fired off easily and accurately, it did break with a slap pass lol, durability wasn't too great.
Bauer X60 77 flex - cut to about 80~ flex Backstrom P92 curve.
by far my favourite stick, it's the only stick i've had that i could actually slap shot with. it's incredibly light, durability isn't bad, and just all around awesome, my friend's who own one95's prefer their one95's but everyone else seems to love it. i hope it never breaks or they go on crazy sale so i can grab a whole bunch.
Bauer Vapor25 87 flex, cut down til about 90~ flex P91a Staal Curve
I liked this stick for slap shots, and saucer passes, stick handling isn't bad either, and wrist shots sail way too high, i have a problem with shooting an inch or two above the cross bar. dont really like this curve, but the stick is decently light and the flex is a bit much for me personally. i use this stick for roller only.
Warrior Dolomyte Spyne 75 flex cut down to about 80~ Draper Curve
Don't like this stick too much, but it's not bad, i bought it on sale for $80. the spyne thing in the blade sorta bugs me, as i'm a blade taper nazi, and it takes more time to tape, as well my slap shots and wrist shots just aren't nearly as hard as the x60, this is one of the few times where a hockey stick made a difference in my play.
for me, i'm a bauer whore, don't know if i could buy anything else.
Jgresch
09-07-2010, 03:42 PM
65 flex??????? Were you 10? Lol
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mickz
09-07-2010, 04:14 PM
65 flex??????? Were you 10? Lol
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Brett Hull's sticks were 65 flex and he had a crazy shot. Don't see what's wrong with using one. It's a whole lot better than trying to flex 100 when you really can't.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__t-CfHJLk3M/Svf8k0z5CkI/AAAAAAAAAcA/BimbTZJdfxQ/s400/hullonetime.jpg
Jgresch
09-07-2010, 04:18 PM
U are not Brett hull ;) 65 is soooo flexy, and they are thinner than senior sticks too. The stik would flex during a pass :p if 65 works fr you though I won't tell you not to use it ;)
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RiceIntegraRS
09-07-2010, 06:17 PM
How much are the X60's? seems like the One95s are for the slapshot guys and the X60 for the wrist shot guys
cdizzle_996
09-07-2010, 08:17 PM
How much are the X60's? seems like the One95s are for the slapshot guys and the X60 for the wrist shot guys
I find it the opposite and I have both.
SumAznGuy
09-07-2010, 08:34 PM
I haven't used it, but a lot of guys have told me to stick with the one95 over the X60 because of durability issues.
I've also heard the S19's are just repainted S17's but I find that hard to believe.
I love my one95 first and second is the Macdaddy. Just wish the blade was a little stronger.
BTW, I don't like the sticky grip em on my sticks. I wear my gloves loose so I have mobility in my wrist and my gloves will stick to the tackiness and come off of my hand.
beetea
09-07-2010, 08:36 PM
its all about the way you shoot. you can slapshot with both but have to adjust to the kick points in the sticks.
imo the one95 is the clapper king.
Jgresch
09-07-2010, 08:43 PM
I've also heard the S19's are just repainted S17's but I find that hard to believe..
I have an s19 for ice and s17 for roller hockey. Very different stick. s19 is light, and much thinner near the blade.
Spidey
09-07-2010, 10:01 PM
Brett Hull's sticks were 65 flex and he had a crazy shot. Don't see what's wrong with using one. It's a whole lot better than trying to flex 100 when you really can't.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__t-CfHJLk3M/Svf8k0z5CkI/AAAAAAAAAcA/BimbTZJdfxQ/s400/hullonetime.jpg
depends.. i cant use anything lower than an 87 thats cut... even a 77 thats cut(which in reality would be more of an 80-85) is too whippy for me.. i dont like the feel of my stick bending like a bow.. i only like feeling the whip when i really lean into shots.. and even then, the kick on whippy sticks arent as powerful as a stiffer stick
cdizzle_996
09-08-2010, 06:12 AM
s19 is some thing else. I bought one used it for warm up and gave it away. It was so light and had the weirdest kick point. I couldnt use it.
Spidey
09-08-2010, 07:28 AM
s19 is some thing else. I bought one used it for warm up and gave it away. It was so light and had the weirdest kick point. I couldnt use it.
imo, eastons "high end" retail sticks are for kids and or noobs that dont know much about hockey... and since they arent durable,,, the noobs and kids are less likely to break them too. if you look at any nhl player.. they all use st's or se's that are repainted
Jgresch
09-08-2010, 07:32 AM
I am not a "noob" and I find the s19 is fine... I fin the boobs jut buy flashy cheap stuff from sportchek
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SumAznGuy
09-08-2010, 08:37 AM
depends.. i cant use anything lower than an 87 thats cut... even a 77 thats cut(which in reality would be more of an 80-85) is too whippy for me.. i dont like the feel of my stick bending like a bow.. i only like feeling the whip when i really lean into shots.. and even then, the kick on whippy sticks arent as powerful as a stiffer stick
I thought the same thing till I used my one95 77 flex.
My first "whippy" stick was a 85 flex Mac Daddy. I found that stick way too flexy when I was trying to clear the puck around the boards from behind the net and ended up staying with the 100 flex.
Because of that, I tried the 100 flex S17's but my Sakic is too stiff for my liking. There is little to no flex when I lean into my slappers.
Right now, I am really happy with the one95. Well, maybe the kickpoint could be a little lower.
Spidey
09-08-2010, 11:51 AM
I thought the same thing till I used my one95 77 flex.
My first "whippy" stick was a 85 flex Mac Daddy. I found that stick way too flexy when I was trying to clear the puck around the boards from behind the net and ended up staying with the 100 flex.
Because of that, I tried the 100 flex S17's but my Sakic is too stiff for my liking. There is little to no flex when I lean into my slappers.
Right now, I am really happy with the one95. Well, maybe the kickpoint could be a little lower.
ya the one95 is probably whippier than the average stick out there.. the 87 really felt like an 80.. probably due to the kick point.. but i loved it. and will be my next stick once my dolo breaks.. which i tihnk is soon.. the shaft rattles now after my last game.... good thing they are d/c and you can get them relatively cheap from sports exchange... pro stocks ftw!
Spidey
09-08-2010, 11:52 AM
I am not a "noob" and I find the s19 is fine... I fin the boobs jut buy flashy cheap stuff from sportchek
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cheap noobs buy from sport chek... noobs with money will buy anything that is "new"
cdnav8r
09-08-2010, 02:23 PM
Because of that, I tried the 100 flex S17's but my Sakic is too stiff for my liking. There is little to no flex when I lean into my slappers.
I had the S17 and broke the blade already. Apparently the blade was the weak part of the S17's design.
Jgresch
09-08-2010, 03:35 PM
^ same.. I stuck a new one in the back end and use it for roller now.
cdizzle_996
09-08-2010, 04:45 PM
Well, I play D and have probably taken over 500 slap shots between, stick and puck, warm up, and games with my x60 and its still holing up. If you want a "cheaper" decent stick, go to Sport Chek and get a Vapor XXXX
Spidey
09-08-2010, 07:46 PM
Well, I play D and have probably taken over 500 slap shots between, stick and puck, warm up, and games with my x60 and its still holing up. If you want a "cheaper" decent stick, go to Sport Chek and get a Vapor XXXX
is their sale still on or is it over? i know they got a batch of xxxx's and xxx lites..although iw ould never buy the xxx lite because those blades are as brittle as they come..
the s17 ad s19. both have weakass blades.. even their regular se lines were borderline... easton needs to start making a product that lasts more than 15 days... the st seems ok, but i am never going to try their sticks again unless it is given to me.. although i admit.. their shafts are good and their ops's have great response, they just dont last
SumAznGuy
09-09-2010, 11:13 AM
is their sale still on or is it over? i know they got a batch of xxxx's and xxx lites..although iw ould never buy the xxx lite because those blades are as brittle as they come..
the s17 ad s19. both have weakass blades.. even their regular se lines were borderline... easton needs to start making a product that lasts more than 15 days... the st seems ok, but i am never going to try their sticks again unless it is given to me.. although i admit.. their shafts are good and their ops's have great response, they just dont last
Their ST's are quite a bit more durable than the SE16's and S17/19's from what I've heard from other guys that use them. But I tried playing with an ST and damn they are heavy.
I've seen SE7's and 5's as well as S7 and 5's at Cyclone Taylor and other shops. Don't know how well these compare to the SE16 and S17/19's but for the price I rather pay a little more and get the last year high end sticks.
cdizzle_996
09-09-2010, 05:58 PM
Sport Chek just got more XXXX's. Cyclone Taylors is also selling the '09 Easton ST for 99. Pretty durable stick for the price.
Spidey
09-10-2010, 12:24 PM
sweet.. i should check them out.
TheSalesman
09-10-2010, 01:00 PM
I'v been using easton for the past 10 years. I have gone through a lot of sticks and even went to the bauer vapor sticks a long time ago. I still have that stick and use it on street hockey now because it sucks.
I used the bubble with a focus flex blade for the longest time and then went through lots of synergy sticks. The SL was the best i'v used for awhile but they were expensive and I went through a few. Now my current stick, which is on its last legs is a pro stock stealth which is awesome. I'v had this stick for over 2 years now playing recreational hockey. Im surprised it lasted this long because I used to go through about 5 sticks a season.
I would like to try a bauer xxxx or one95 if there are some available out there.
The only thing I don't really like changing is the curve.
I liked the shanahan curve, sakic was good, sundin.
I'v tried a few others like drury, lidstrom and forsberg but they didn't work out for me.
AzNightmare
09-11-2010, 02:45 AM
I find it rare to see Sr. sticks with low flex. I definitely don't have the strength to flex most of those Sr. sticks, and not only that,
I usually chop my stick quite short. So I'm probably like using 100 flex sticks or something after I cut them.
Lol, I need something like 50 flex probably. haha
TheSalesman
09-11-2010, 12:07 PM
I find it rare to see Sr. sticks with low flex. I definitely don't have the strength to flex most of those Sr. sticks, and not only that,
I usually chop my stick quite short. So I'm probably like using 100 flex sticks or something after I cut them.
Lol, I need something like 50 flex probably. haha
Get an Intermediate stick then.
Leopold Stotch
09-11-2010, 12:48 PM
Get an Intermediate stick then.
yea definitely do that, if you like your sticks short. you'll save some money and learn how to flex your sticks better
i have one friend who uses a 90 ish flex stick and i just laugh every time he shoots he can't flex it, can't slap shot.
i think as long as you can properly use the flex of the stick then whatever. i personally prefer the stick to bend like a mofo when i take wrist and snap shots. not really a slap shot man, but i can get them to around 55 ish MPH
i also agree about bauer sticks, they do seem a bit flexier than other sticks, like i was flexing some prostock Sedin sticks and they left like 80 flex.
here's a pic of me taking wrist shot with my friends ONE95 cut down to about 82~ flex
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs659.snc4/59941_524577501616_129501170_31307426_1142479_n.jp g
you can really see the kick point in this pic.
i"ll post a pic of my x60 once i get my computer back from the shop. i think it bent quite a bit more.
Jgresch
09-11-2010, 12:57 PM
^ your stick looks huge in that picture lol
TheSalesman
09-11-2010, 12:59 PM
wtf, is that Charas stick?
Looks super long....
yea definitely do that, if you like your sticks short. you'll save some money and learn how to flex your sticks better
i have one friend who uses a 90 ish flex stick and i just laugh every time he shoots he can't flex it, can't slap shot.
i think as long as you can properly use the flex of the stick then whatever. i personally prefer the stick to bend like a mofo when i take wrist and snap shots. not really a slap shot man, but i can get them to around 55 ish MPH
i also agree about bauer sticks, they do seem a bit flexier than other sticks, like i was flexing some prostock Sedin sticks and they left like 80 flex.
here's a pic of me taking wrist shot with my friends ONE95 cut down to about 82~ flex
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs659.snc4/59941_524577501616_129501170_31307426_1142479_n.jp g
you can really see the kick point in this pic.
i"ll post a pic of my x60 once i get my computer back from the shop. i think it bent quite a bit more.
Jgresch
09-11-2010, 01:04 PM
^ i lol'd
Leopold Stotch
09-11-2010, 01:10 PM
lol my friend's 6', and i'm 5'10" and i'm on shoes, so yea the stick was quite long lol.
but i must admit my sticks are a bit too long, but i can't play with a shorter stick. like my stick's are about 58" measuring knob to heel.
Jgresch
09-11-2010, 01:14 PM
^ 58"??? thats only 5 feet lol, thats pretty short if you're 5'10
I Cut my sticks to just under my nose.
Their ST's are quite a bit more durable than the SE16's and S17/19's from what I've heard from other guys that use them. But I tried playing with an ST and damn they are heavy.
I've seen SE7's and 5's as well as S7 and 5's at Cyclone Taylor and other shops. Don't know how well these compare to the SE16 and S17/19's but for the price I rather pay a little more and get the last year high end sticks.
i've been using a ST for like 3+ years now ... just waiting for it to break any game now but its holding up
Spidey
09-11-2010, 02:38 PM
most people dont realize that just because their stick is in tact it doesn't necessarily mean they are still good.. eastons baldes are notoriously known for getting "soft" fast.. as fast as maybe a couple of stick and puck sessions even.. not exaggerating, just from experience.
anyways, i like my stick under my chin/ just below, with my skates on. so it is abotu lip level in my shoes. i am going to change from a 4 lie.. back to a 5.5... i find it too easy for the defenders to poke the puck from me when i use a 4 lie and have the puck a bit too in front of me...
cdizzle_996
09-11-2010, 05:07 PM
People think they're not strong enough for higher flexes, I was one of them. Like i said before I'm 5'9 160ish and use a stick thats at about a 110, with no issues.
Leopold Stotch
09-14-2010, 10:36 AM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs699.snc4/61919_524651538246_129501170_31310550_3524485_n.jp g
Here's the pic of my shooting my own stick, Vapor x60 80~ flex.
compared to that one95, the kick point is much lower, i love this stick.
SumAznGuy
09-14-2010, 10:57 AM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs699.snc4/61919_524651538246_129501170_31310550_3524485_n.jp g
Here's the pic of my shooting my own stick, Vapor x60 80~ flex.
compared to that one95, the kick point is much lower, i love this stick.
Sorry, I can't telll where the kick point is. I'm not sure what it looks like.
matter
09-14-2010, 11:02 AM
I concur with easton blades being junk. For wristers they are perfectly capable, but if you do any decent shooting, it wont last. If you squeeze along your blade and hear crunchy noises, its dying or dead. I was a long time easton user, but the one95 changed it all.
One95 and X:60 blades are solid, and the ones i had outlasted the shaft. The feel is different for both with the one95 being much softer feeling/more puck feel. Being a snap/slap guy, I will choose Bauer from now on until Easton can fix their blades.
Warrior also have great blades, but their shaft tech never performed as well for me.
Leopold Stotch
09-14-2010, 03:58 PM
I concur with easton blades being junk. For wristers they are perfectly capable, but if you do any decent shooting, it wont last. If you squeeze along your blade and hear crunchy noises, its dying or dead. I was a long time easton user, but the one95 changed it all.
One95 and X:60 blades are solid, and the ones i had outlasted the shaft. The feel is different for both with the one95 being much softer feeling/more puck feel. Being a snap/slap guy, I will choose Bauer from now on until Easton can fix their blades.
Warrior also have great blades, but their shaft tech never performed as well for me.
I can't wait to see how the Total One is going to perform, i haven't heard much about it yet, maybe i'll check for some reviews.
and i dont know what it is about my Dolomyte but i think it's the blade, snap/slap and wrist shots just dont come off as good as my x60.
Sorry, I can't telll where the kick point is. I'm not sure what it looks like.
basically the kick point is where it bends, and in the pic you quoted it's bending lower, which gives the wrist shot a bit more mustard.
Spidey
09-14-2010, 06:08 PM
i cant wait for the totalone, so the one95s will be cheaper!
raygunpk
09-14-2010, 06:23 PM
^ 58"??? thats only 5 feet lol, thats pretty short if you're 5'10
I Cut my sticks to just under my nose.
58" knob to heel, not knob to floor.
Jgresch
09-14-2010, 06:29 PM
ohhh ok. makes sense now... sorry but I've never measured my sticks....
Leopold Stotch
09-15-2010, 12:51 AM
ohhh ok. makes sense now... sorry but I've never measured my sticks....
is that on street shoes or skates? my sticks are like under my eyes in shoes and between my lips on skates.
SolidPenguin
09-15-2010, 02:32 AM
I can't wait to see how the Total One is going to perform, i haven't heard much about it yet, maybe i'll check for some reviews.
TotalOne will be like a mix of the One95 and X:60. The quality of blade and the shot/kickpoint will be like the one95 and weight/balance of an x60.
It'll be a good combo. If you like either of those sticks, you'll like the Totalone
Spidey
09-15-2010, 06:41 AM
is that on street shoes or skates? my sticks are like under my eyes in shoes and between my lips on skates.
willie mithchell styles eh?' POKE POKE..
SumAznGuy
09-15-2010, 06:51 AM
my sticks are like under my eyes in shoes and between my lips on skates.
Giggidy...
mickz
09-22-2010, 07:28 PM
My BASE Hockey stick finally arrived and I'm super eager to take it for a spin tonight.
Preemo
09-22-2010, 08:54 PM
My BASE Hockey stick finally arrived and I'm super eager to take it for a spin tonight.
Apparently these sticks are frickin' awesome! Passes stick to the blade with no bounce. How much did it cost you? I've been meaning to go check out Cliff's facility.
mickz
09-22-2010, 08:57 PM
Apparently these sticks are frickin' awesome! Passes stick to the blade with no bounce. How much did it cost you? I've been meaning to go check out Cliff's facility.
They're $149.99 for a Senior if you buy one, the more you buy the better price you'll get.
Just make sure you call and book an appointment if you plan to head down there, there's no drop ins. They're doing all day fittings on the weekends (but it's a shit show because that's when all the kids go) and 4pm-8pm on most of the weekdays.
Here's a pic showing everything but the name bar pretty much.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n31/honger_dude/savoyspecial.jpg
wow
just looked them up
thats some pretty cool stuff
how long did it take for you to get your stick?
mickz
09-22-2010, 09:36 PM
Its really hit or miss. Supposed to be 5-7 business days but they didn't have the shaft component needed to make my stick and it got held up in customs (shipped from mexico) so it was 3-4 weeks before I finally saw it.
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shipping included in the 150 price?
mickz
09-23-2010, 12:54 AM
Extra if you want it shipped to your house. No additional charges if you pick it up at their facility just off Lougheed Hwy and Lake City Way.
I used it tonight and I like it. As with any piece of gear there are Pros and Cons. I think the biggest difference about this stick vs the competition is how soft the puck feels when giving/receiving passes. But since it feels softer, you don't get the same 'pop' like you would on a Warrior when shooting.
If you're in the market for a new stick I'd highly consider it, especially with all the options you have choose from. The price is good too and it comes with the standard 30 day warranty. Shooting pucks with former NHLers Cliff Ronning and Al Iafrate is also a bonus = )
raygunpk
09-23-2010, 09:58 PM
did you get to use that high speed camera to watch yourself shoot in slow-mo?
what curve/flex did you get? sucks they locked the base thread on msh
mickz
09-23-2010, 10:15 PM
Yeah the high speed cameras are a part of your fitting.
I was using my 85 flex Dolomite cut down so it felt like it was 95-100 flex. Looking at the footage Cliff said the stick is way too stiff for me. I kept stepping down flexes during the fitting and they had me at 65 flex for one point. The stick felt way too whippy and they pointed that out after the first couple of shots with that stick.
I ended up getting a 75 flex BM12 (Iginla clone), cut down feels about 80 or so, but I think for the next stick I order it's going to be their Hossa with the big toe curve. They didn't have it when I was ordering my stick otherwise I would've gotten that instead. I shot around with it when I went down a second time to pick up my stick and really liked that pattern.
As for MSH I'm pretty sure the mods there just have something against one of the guys at BASE and they're just looking for any excuse to close threads about them.
Spidey
09-24-2010, 07:11 AM
how did you guys even come across this brand? i never heard of it and can only find limited stuff on heir official website
raygunpk
09-24-2010, 06:04 PM
Yeah the high speed cameras are a part of your fitting.
I was using my 85 flex Dolomite cut down so it felt like it was 95-100 flex. Looking at the footage Cliff said the stick is way too stiff for me. I kept stepping down flexes during the fitting and they had me at 65 flex for one point. The stick felt way too whippy and they pointed that out after the first couple of shots with that stick.
I ended up getting a 75 flex BM12 (Iginla clone), cut down feels about 80 or so, but I think for the next stick I order it's going to be their Hossa with the big toe curve. They didn't have it when I was ordering my stick otherwise I would've gotten that instead. I shot around with it when I went down a second time to pick up my stick and really liked that pattern.
As for MSH I'm pretty sure the mods there just have something against one of the guys at BASE and they're just looking for any excuse to close threads about them.
Did you get to keep the videos? That would be pretty sweet to see. Find any flaws in your shooting technique? haha
raygunpk
09-24-2010, 06:06 PM
how did you guys even come across this brand? i never heard of it and can only find limited stuff on heir official website
modsquadhockey.com is a great source for hockey equipment. pretty much everything new is reported there for months before it hits retail.
Spidey
09-24-2010, 06:45 PM
modsquadhockey.com is a great source for hockey equipment. pretty much everything new is reported there for months before it hits retail.
i go there but mainly to browse the show it off thread lol... base website seems pretty limited... maybe ill go and check out their place since i live a few mins away
mickz
09-24-2010, 09:54 PM
how did you guys even come across this brand? i never heard of it and can only find limited stuff on heir official website
There was a post in the "Gear Sightings" thread on MSH with Jordan Weal of the LA Kings using a Base stick. I didn't think too much of it then.
One day in July Cliff Ronning came into my work to buy some stuff and we started talking about hockey gear because I knew he was a Pro Rep for Warrior before. He brings up BASE, and being the huge gear whore I am, he started showing me the prototypes he had in his car and invited me down to the facility for a free fitting session a few weeks later.
Did you get to keep the videos? That would be pretty sweet to see. Find any flaws in your shooting technique? haha
They burned me a CD. You never know what bad habits you pick up until you watch yourself on film. For my wristers I wasn't loading the puck up far back enough and for snap shots I was shooting with the blade more open than I should have.
Spidey
09-25-2010, 07:38 AM
are all these fittings free in promoting their new stick?
mickz
09-25-2010, 10:00 AM
No, their promo (fitting fee applied towards purchase of stick) was only during the first week (Labour Day Weekend.)
Edit: Off topic, but anybody want a beater original Synergy for dirt cheap? = D
6thGear.
09-27-2010, 12:20 AM
I found that tps is the whippiest of most sticks. for anyone who isnt heavy and wants a good flexible stick, should look into them. I have the tps r2 armour, was so happy with it, i went on ebay and bought 2 new shafts for $80 shipped to my door, which was a good thing cause 2 weeks later, i broke the original one i got from hockey shop. i use the whip flex and it is cut down, so prob is a reg flex now. im 5'5 150 and i clocked my slapshot with this stick to high 70's(i think it was 77mph), albeit with a roller puck.
heres a pic my buddy took during a vihl game..not too shabby of a flex considering my height and weight.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/sixthgear604/IMG_3593.jpg
They're $149.99 for a Senior if you buy one, the more you buy the better price you'll get.
Just make sure you call and book an appointment if you plan to head down there, there's no drop ins. They're doing all day fittings on the weekends (but it's a shit show because that's when all the kids go) and 4pm-8pm on most of the weekdays.
Here's a pic showing everything but the name bar pretty much.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n31/honger_dude/savoyspecial.jpg
do they do ops only or can they do shafts?
Leopold Stotch
09-27-2010, 01:18 AM
No, their promo (fitting fee applied towards purchase of stick) was only during the first week (Labour Day Weekend.)
Edit: Off topic, but anybody want a beater original Synergy for dirt cheap? = D
some questions if you dont mind
how's the kick point? or do you have a choice in mid or low?
how's the weight?
are there any more graphics?
i'm thinking of getting a 2 piece x60 so i might do this instead.
mickz
09-27-2010, 07:25 PM
do they do ops only or can they do shafts?
They only make OPS.
some questions if you dont mind
how's the kick point? or do you have a choice in mid or low?
how's the weight?
are there any more graphics?
i'm thinking of getting a 2 piece x60 so i might do this instead.
No choice in kick points. Stick feels like it's a mid-kick.
Weight, I haven't put it on a scale or anything but it feels a tad heavier than my Dolomites and ONE95. BASE also offers a slightly heavier stick (thicker shaft walls) so it's kind of like their version of the Easton ST.
There's only one graphics package.
I think it'll depend on what type of player you are. The Savoy Special has a softer blade and makes it more ideal for passing but I like the 'pop' feeling I get from stiffer blades like the Dolomite. I pass more than I shoot so I'm sticking with the Savoy for now.
JayDaMan
09-27-2010, 07:53 PM
i like the Bauer Vapor X-Rival solid stick.
Leopold Stotch
09-27-2010, 08:05 PM
They only make OPS.
No choice in kick points. Stick feels like it's a mid-kick.
Weight, I haven't put it on a scale or anything but it feels a tad heavier than my Dolomites and ONE95. BASE also offers a slightly heavier stick (thicker shaft walls) so it's kind of like their version of the Easton ST.
There's only one graphics package.
I think it'll depend on what type of player you are. The Savoy Special has a softer blade and makes it more ideal for passing but I like the 'pop' feeling I get from stiffer blades like the Dolomite. I pass more than I shoot so I'm sticking with the Savoy for now.
hmm, sounds interesting,
is there a fee to get tested? i'm not sure if i'm too interested, but i'm definitely open to new things.
hiGh_RollA
09-28-2010, 12:47 AM
whats some good sticks for roller hockey?
Spidey
09-28-2010, 06:38 AM
whats some good sticks for roller hockey?
imo, anything you are willing to replace often.. so a good 2 piece stick...and for roller you would generally use a stiffer stick than you would on ice.. thre is so much more friction when shooting that itll flex your stick a lot more.. for me at least.. i use an 85ish on ice.. i use 100 for roller
mickz
09-28-2010, 12:27 PM
hmm, sounds interesting,
is there a fee to get tested? i'm not sure if i'm too interested, but i'm definitely open to new things.
$50 for fitting.
Leopold Stotch
10-02-2010, 12:08 AM
$50 for fitting.
thanks!
maybe i'l wait for my dolomite to break.
RiceIntegraRS
10-21-2010, 06:47 PM
maybe all u hockey guys can help me out. im looking for some shooting targets for accuracy shooting like the ones they have in the NHL accuracy shooting competition but foam or something else.
anywhere locally i can find theses?
!Nhan
10-21-2010, 08:12 PM
Kinda off maybe on topic, but what do you guys use as a floor board for when practicing shots off ice?
TheSalesman
10-21-2010, 09:08 PM
maybe all u hockey guys can help me out. im looking for some shooting targets for accuracy shooting like the ones they have in the NHL accuracy shooting competition but foam or something else.
anywhere locally i can find theses?
buy a shooter tutor.
TheSalesman
10-21-2010, 09:09 PM
Kinda off maybe on topic, but what do you guys use as a floor board for when practicing shots off ice?
ehhhh...why not just practice on ice? I'v never practiced shooting off ice before. If you want to improve on shooting on ice...then practice on ice.
You don't want to stand in 1 spot shooting. Maybe try skating into a shot or shooting on the fly or whatever. Go to a stick and puck and practice.
6thGear.
10-21-2010, 10:03 PM
Kinda off maybe on topic, but what do you guys use as a floor board for when practicing shots off ice?
You can buy a sheet of synthetic ice...i dunno exactly what it's made of...plastic and something. I got mine at sport chek, although I don't use it enough..I may return it.
mickz
10-21-2010, 10:16 PM
maybe all u hockey guys can help me out. im looking for some shooting targets for accuracy shooting like the ones they have in the NHL accuracy shooting competition but foam or something else.
anywhere locally i can find theses?
They have the foam ones at Cambodian Tire but honestly if you have to be walking up to the net and putting them back every couple of shots you're not going to bother anymore. Like somebody else has said, buy a shooter tutor instead.
A poor man's solution would be using some plastic 4L milk jugs and rope as targets.
m3thods
10-21-2010, 10:18 PM
if you don't want to shell for that, then just pick up a large section of laminate flooring or linoleum (maybe a 3x3 sheet). if it's very thin, just put some plywood underneath so it doesn't smack against the underlying ground, especially if it's bumpy.
Spidey
10-21-2010, 10:44 PM
just practice shooting on a net... i mean, cant you visually see if you hit top left corner or not? why do you need something that tells you you hit it.. it isnt like you're using a barrett with a thermal scope, and slight of hands pro!
btw, i sold my x60 i used 3 times... couldn't get used to the lively pinginess of the blade.. back to the one95 i go... unless canada gets the new GIONTA retail for warrior... sexy toe curve!
RiceIntegraRS
10-21-2010, 11:21 PM
Oh i just wanted to setup a skills competition thing with my team. I wanted to do Puck Control, Hardest Shot, Fastest Skater, and Shooting Accuracy. All i need are the Shooting Targets
Spidey
10-22-2010, 07:21 AM
Oh i just wanted to setup a skills competition thing with my team. I wanted to do Puck Control, Hardest Shot, Fastest Skater, and Shooting Accuracy. All i need are the Shooting Targets
cool. just get the foam things from ct then.
Spidey
10-23-2010, 04:10 PM
ahhh just got a pro stock one95 in p88 and 87 flex! i swear the one95 flex ratings are softer than they really are.. feels like an 80.. there was a conroy one95 that was rated 82 and that felt stiffer than the 87.. the conroy had a HUGE curve.. i think it is an OVI pro stock repplica.. was gonna try that out but didnt wanna risk hating it.. ended up with my old love of the p88 that i had in the summer before i smashed it on the boards... best stick ive used to date
mickz
10-23-2010, 11:16 PM
ahhh just got a pro stock one95 in p88 and 87 flex! i swear the one95 flex ratings are softer than they really are.. feels like an 80.. there was a conroy one95 that was rated 82 and that felt stiffer than the 87.. the conroy had a HUGE curve.. i think it is an OVI pro stock repplica.. was gonna try that out but didnt wanna risk hating it.. ended up with my old love of the p88 that i had in the summer before i smashed it on the boards... best stick ive used to date
Most of the stick companies allow too much of a variance when it comes to testing flex consistency. When you're picking up a stick marked '100 flex' it could be anywhere between 90 and 110.
The big 'players' in the stick market don't really care when they get batches of sticks sent back to them (aka pro returns) because there's always the Hockey Monkeys of the world that will gladly buy them.
If you're real picky about flex consistency between sticks, BASE is the only brand that is extremely strict in this department.
Spidey
10-23-2010, 11:36 PM
im not that crazy picky.. i just usually flex it and go by feel.. i generally can use anything from 85-100.. but hte one95 i just love... i hope the one100 stick is basically the one95 renamed.. because it would be a shame if they totally d/c the one95. i dont think i will ever try the totalone unless i got it for super cheap.. it seems like a one95 with the x60 blade.. and i hated the x60 blade.
mickz
10-23-2010, 11:52 PM
I love the ONE95 as well. I like how crisp everything feels with that blade and the stick overall is very well balanced.
I had a chat with Ron Kunisaki (Founder of Innovative Hockey) and he says the Total ONE stick is just a repainted X:60. The original Bauer Vapor XX and XXX sticks were OEM'd by Innovative so I'm not surprised he's still in the know.
The ONE100 skates released this year are pretty much the same as the ONE95s so I'm not surprised at the possibility of Bauer repainting their sticks.
skiiipi
10-24-2010, 10:58 PM
One100 stick no longer uses Monocomp technology (true one piece), so it is not the same as a one95. The Total One would be the cloest thing to the old One95, but yes with an updated blade + updated grip profile on the shaft.
The new RBK 11K will be an interesting one to try. The sickick 3 technology uses two different weaves of carbon fiber, a loose weave on the backside and a tight weave on the inside, this is suppose to provide more "snap" upon release of a shot, in addition the balance of the 11K stick is very nice, and at $269.99, its not horriably over-priced.
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mickz
10-24-2010, 11:24 PM
When has RBK ever made a good stick?
Spidey
10-25-2010, 05:28 AM
One100 stick no longer uses Monocomp technology (true one piece), so it is not the same as a one95. The Total One would be the cloest thing to the old One95, but yes with an updated blade + updated grip profile on the shaft.
The new RBK 11K will be an interesting one to try. The sickick 3 technology uses two different weaves of carbon fiber, a loose weave on the backside and a tight weave on the inside, this is suppose to provide more "snap" upon release of a shot, in addition the balance of the 11K stick is very nice, and at $269.99, its not horriably over-priced.
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mickz said the totalone, not one100.. totalone to me, looks exactly like a one95 shaft fused with an x60 blade, which i don't like because i hate teh x60 blade.. the on95 blade is probably one of the great things about the one95, it is almost like a wood feel blade, but the performance of composite.
i hope the one100 is similar to the one95... or else i am going to stock up as much as i can with the one95s from sports exchange.
i didnt know the one95 used monocomp.. then again i havent used a retail stick in forever, and all the prostocks dont have the consumer sucking r+d tags all over them..
as for the one100 skates, it doesnt take a genius to figure out it is a repainted version of the one95.
skiiipi
10-25-2010, 06:42 AM
the only difference on the one100 skate is the use of a 52oz felt tongue. other than that it is exactly the same
one100 is noticeably different in terms of kick point/balance from the one95 due to the fact that it is not mono comp, you can feel the fuse point of the blade/shaft.
Spidey
10-25-2010, 07:50 AM
the only difference on the one100 skate is the use of a 52oz felt tongue. other than that it is exactly the same
one100 is noticeably different in terms of kick point/balance from the one95 due to the fact that it is not mono comp, you can feel the fuse point of the blade/shaft.
interesting.. it is always odd to me how the new years 2nd highest line is never the same as last years top end line... i mean, you would think that the totalone, being new is their top line, but even with the one100 being the second highest, wouldn't it be cheaper for production if they kept making the one95 but just repaint it as one100? i guess with the totalone being priced as 269, and the one95 priced at 259(roughly), there really isn't any point having a second best stick being only a couple bucks cheaper.. the one100 is significantly cheaper than the totalone....
for this reason, i think companies like warrior, may be liked by people better in terms of consistency.. their dolomite has been around since day 1.. the only changes have been the spyne and diff blade technologies, but for the most part, new models have been worked around the dolomite.
skiiipi
10-25-2010, 10:44 AM
My biggest concern with bauer is that they don't use true compression molding when making their shafts. They use an air bladder, if you ever broken a one95 or X60 or any previous high end bauer stick you will notice a platic bag like thing hanging off the shaft, this is the bladder that they feed air thru to mold the shaft, this causes their shaft wall thickness to be inconsistant, so their sticks overall are less consistant.
Easton and warrior are the only two brands that uses true compression molding for their shaft, using a steel mandrel, which does not change shape underpressure, if you guys want to compare, pop the butt plug out of a high end easton stick and compare it with a high end bauer, you'll notice that the shaft wall thickness is way more consistant in the easton, this is the main reason why easton is still the number one used OPS in the NHL
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Spidey
10-25-2010, 11:21 AM
too bad easton's blades are crap.. or have they changed that yet? i havent used an easton for years because i just don't trust the durability of their blades.. same with tps.
as for the bladder.. it doesnt bother me too much.... from my experience, i did like easton sticks.. esp back when they first came out, they were wayyyy ahead of the game.. by far the best performing stick out there.. but i cldnt afford to buy a new stick every month... well 2 months.. i would almost always warranty one... so 2 in 2 months..
i love the feel of the one95. and as long as i can still get the p88 in 87 flex frmo SE, it'll be the go to stick for me...
skiiipi
10-25-2010, 12:15 PM
Blade wise easton ST has the strongest/stiffest blade on the market, making it the most durable, but does not provide good feel. The worest blade on the market is warrior, they still use a "foam injected" blade which creates hollow spots. Warriors usually break in the blade.
The new EQ50 stick should be interesting, with the adjustable weights and such
But yes overall I would agree that the one95 is an excellent stick.
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Spidey
10-25-2010, 12:33 PM
warrior blades i have had good durability with... at one time they were the most durable i have used.. then the one95 came out.. the x60/totalone blades seem very rigid as well. the st seems strong but damn that stick is a tank...
SumAznGuy
10-25-2010, 02:53 PM
I used 4 Macdaddy's and other than one being caught in the glass, they all wore out in the blade. You can tell because everyshot was a knuckle ball. The minute I switch to a new stick, the shots were good again.
I've been playing with 2 one95's for almost half a year now. Lots of snap shots and lots of slap shots. I've been rotating the sticks for each game and so far I am still as happy with them as I was when they were brand new.
I was using an S17 but found it was too stiff for my liking.
Spidey
10-25-2010, 07:16 PM
I used 4 Macdaddy's and other than one being caught in the glass, they all wore out in the blade. You can tell because everyshot was a knuckle ball. The minute I switch to a new stick, the shots were good again.
I've been playing with 2 one95's for almost half a year now. Lots of snap shots and lots of slap shots. I've been rotating the sticks for each game and so far I am still as happy with them as I was when they were brand new.
I was using an S17 but found it was too stiff for my liking.
you cant really tell if it was the blade... it could be the shaft losing it's kick and flex point. also, the blade may be the first thing for the macdaddys to go, but does it mean it is not durable? how long did each macdaddy last? if the blade breaks, and the stick lasted for 3-4 months i would still say it lasted a decent amount of time.. the nature of the sport can cause sticks to last anywhere from 1 game to 20 games.. but the important thing is how they break..
but all in all, the bauer one95 is def the most durable stick i have used and it is the best performing one at that... i think that, we all agree on! well most of us.
skiiipi
10-25-2010, 08:15 PM
The replacement of the S19 will be a very nice stick.
Don't know what its called, or what it looks like, I've only seen/felt a "demo" version painted fully black.
It still has the torx technology (or at least the ellpitical profile), but a "reengineered" blade and a much nicer balance point. (Not sure if it had the adjustable weight like the eq50) but the stick felt very balanced.
Unfortunately I didn't get to actually play with it as the easton rep didn't let anyone try it....but man he has one hell of a shot with it.
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Spidey
10-25-2010, 09:52 PM
i never knew the se16 had those weights on the heel.. just that the eq50 exposes it..
RiceIntegraRS
10-25-2010, 10:36 PM
If only my One95 was a P88 87 Flex i would be using it all the time. But for me the 102 Flex Malkin Curve i have is so hard for me to get good wrist shots off. I only use it now when playing defence. And i let a few guys on my hockey team try some slap shots with my stick and they say the pucks just launches right off.
Spidey
10-26-2010, 06:29 AM
If only my One95 was a P88 87 Flex i would be using it all the time. But for me the 102 Flex Malkin Curve i have is so hard for me to get good wrist shots off. I only use it now when playing defence. And i let a few guys on my hockey team try some slap shots with my stick and they say the pucks just launches right off.
ya the malkin is garbage.. imo.. the p88 is the only bauer stick id use... maybe the backstrom. i used to use the sakic/draper curve all the time but it is one of those curves that once you stop using it, you need to get used to it or everything flies over the glass.. p88 ftw. i wish bauer made a crazy hook like the old warrior smyth/new gionta.
anyone see the craig conroy one95 pro stocks at sports exchange? it is NUTS. im pretty sure it is the ovy pro stock replica. i am tempted to try that out next..
skiiipi
10-26-2010, 06:30 AM
i never knew the se16 had those weights on the heel.. just that the eq50 exposes it..
Yes thew SE16 was the first easton stick to use FWT (Focus Weight Technology), the weight was placed in two "strips" along the mid portion of the blade, and was "counter balanced" by adding additional material to the upper portion of the shaft. The stick was extremely balanced....untill you cut it, due to the fact the counter balance was determined based on the stick length, to achieve the perfect balance, the stick must be used uncut.
The EQ50 made some updates to the FWT, first the weight are all "visiable" for marketing reasons. The weight on the blade is now moved towards the heel, and the counter balance is not located in the end plug, with adjustable "weight disks". Depending on how short you cut the stick, you remove a set number of weights (printed on the shaft of the stick), to retain the "perfect" balance. It also allows the user to create a "blade light" sensation by cutting the stick, and not removing any of the weights. The weighted end plug can be purchased seperately.
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Spidey
10-26-2010, 06:34 AM
Yes thew SE16 was the first easton stick to use FWT (Focus Weight Technology), the weight was placed in two "strips" along the mid portion of the blade, and was "counter balanced" by adding additional material to the upper portion of the shaft. The stick was extremely balanced....untill you cut it, due to the fact the counter balance was determined based on the stick length, to achieve the perfect balance, the stick must be used uncut.
The EQ50 made some updates to the FWT, first the weight are all "visiable" for marketing reasons. The weight on the blade is now moved towards the heel, and the counter balance is not located in the end plug, with adjustable "weight disks". Depending on how short you cut the stick, you remove a set number of weights (printed on the shaft of the stick), to retain the "perfect" balance. It also allows the user to create a "blade light" sensation by cutting the stick, and not removing any of the weights. The weighted end plug can be purchased seperately.
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cool. the counterbalance is what makes sticks feel light.. not hte actual total weight.. i am surprised easton was the first to do this.. although, i do like my sticks a tad blade heavy.. the only thing i have with seeing the weights on the balde is that it makes it look like it will shatter. hahaha. btw, has anyone here used the se16? hows the durability.. i kind of want to try out easton again.. but the pro stock lines at SE.. heck i will probably never buy retail again because i dont think it is worth spending more than 150 for any stick.
skiiipi
10-26-2010, 06:41 AM
Look for the SE16 to drastically go down in price in the next little while, since the EQ50 is now out.
There are many benifits of buying pro stock, such as price, added features, but there are also downsides, such as the lack of warrenty + unknown modifications. It is very common for sticks to be "painted" for pro use, and it may totally be a differnt stick. I encountered a batch of pro stock XXX-Lites a while back, upon speaking to the Bauer rep, found out they are actually "re-painted" supreme sticks, but was painted XXX-Lite to help promote that stick during its launch.
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Spidey
10-26-2010, 07:01 AM
Look for the SE16 to drastically go down in price in the next little while, since the EQ50 is now out.
There are many benifits of buying pro stock, such as price, added features, but there are also downsides, such as the lack of warrenty + unknown modifications. It is very common for sticks to be "painted" for pro use, and it may totally be a differnt stick. I encountered a batch of pro stock XXX-Lites a while back, upon speaking to the Bauer rep, found out they are actually "re-painted" supreme sticks, but was painted XXX-Lite to help promote that stick during its launch.
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yup, totally aware of it.. the one thing you can look at it the weave of the carbon.. a lot of the one95s were painted x60s and vice versa. the xxx lites are a great example of repainted one90s etc. you have to know what you are looking for. but from my experience, the pro stocks last longer. some people say they break easier, but imo, why would they give pros sticks that will break easier, especially when every game counts for something.. and where the level is much higher...
skiiipi
10-26-2010, 08:08 AM
Yes, best way to tell is the shaft profile as supreme and vapor uses different shaft profile.
Prostocks are usually "made better" with new technology. Ie S17 prostock is identical to S19 retail stock, they tested the S19 first as a S17 for the pros.
In easton's case, all pro stock are made in Mexico, all non pro stock are made in China. So if you buy a easton pro stock from the states and brings it over, its duty free due to the NAFTA.
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Spidey
10-26-2010, 11:02 AM
Yes, best way to tell is the shaft profile as supreme and vapor uses different shaft profile.
Prostocks are usually "made better" with new technology. Ie S17 prostock is identical to S19 retail stock, they tested the S19 first as a S17 for the pros.
In easton's case, all pro stock are made in Mexico, all non pro stock are made in China. So if you buy a easton pro stock from the states and brings it over, its duty free due to the NAFTA.
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good to know! i remember when eastons were made in mexico, intiially.
but yea the bauers are easy to tell...
btw where do all you guys play? dropin/leagues
i am in ashl div 2 bby currently.
Jgresch
10-26-2010, 11:09 AM
Yes, best way to tell is the shaft profile as supreme and vapor uses different shaft profile.
Prostocks are usually "made better" with new technology. Ie S17 prostock is identical to S19 retail stock, they tested the S19 first as a S17 for the pros.
In easton's case, all pro stock are made in Mexico, all non pro stock are made in China. So if you buy a easton pro stock from the states and brings it over, its duty free due to the NAFTA.
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So my S19 prostock is really like an S21 retail :p
skiiipi
10-26-2010, 07:33 PM
So my S19 prostock is really like an S21 retail :p
I'll be sure to ask that question when I go to next year's trade show
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Spidey
10-26-2010, 07:42 PM
My biggest concern with bauer is that they don't use true compression molding when making their shafts. They use an air bladder, if you ever broken a one95 or X60 or any previous high end bauer stick you will notice a platic bag like thing hanging off the shaft, this is the bladder that they feed air thru to mold the shaft, this causes their shaft wall thickness to be inconsistant, so their sticks overall are less consistant.
Easton and warrior are the only two brands that uses true compression molding for their shaft, using a steel mandrel, which does not change shape underpressure, if you guys want to compare, pop the butt plug out of a high end easton stick and compare it with a high end bauer, you'll notice that the shaft wall thickness is way more consistant in the easton, this is the main reason why easton is still the number one used OPS in the NHL
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btw, when i read your claim about easton being the most used stick in the nhl, i didnt really believe it. i knew at one point, they were big.. but lately i have seen a lot of bauer sticks.. even with the canucks game today, their stick rack in the hallway is littered with bauer.
skiiipi
10-26-2010, 08:08 PM
btw, when i read your claim about easton being the most used stick in the nhl, i didnt really believe it. i knew at one point, they were big.. but lately i have seen a lot of bauer sticks.. even with the canucks game today, their stick rack in the hallway is littered with bauer.
As of the end of last season, easton is still the biggest. Easton and Bauer rep both confirm that. Easton is No1 in stick, Rbk/ccm is no 1 in protective, Bauer is no 1 in skates
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Spidey
10-26-2010, 08:13 PM
i think it will change after this year.
skiiipi
10-26-2010, 08:17 PM
i think it will change after this year.
Yea it will be interesting to see next year. Again, I'll see what the reps say at next year's trade show
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Wilso09
10-26-2010, 09:23 PM
Anyone use TPS sticks? More specifically the R8?
For the past year or so that's all I've been using. Bought 3 of them off eBay for a pretty good deal and now I'm on my last one and feel it starting to give out on me.
Tried some dolomites, an x60, one95, synergy SL's and some other random sticks here and there and nothing feels as "right" as the R8 for me.
But i have been rotating between a x60 and an one95 recently and I'm growing to like the one95 a lot more then the x60.
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6thGear.
10-27-2010, 12:17 AM
Yea it will be interesting to see next year. Again, I'll see what the reps say at next year's trade show
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Where do you work? Your info seems pretty good
Anyone use TPS sticks? More specifically the R8?
For the past year or so that's all I've been using. Bought 3 of them off eBay for a pretty good deal and now I'm on my last one and feel it starting to give out on me.
Tried some dolomites, an x60, one95, synergy SL's and some other random sticks here and there and nothing feels as "right" as the R8 for me.
But i have been rotating between a x60 and an one95 recently and I'm growing to like the one95 a lot more then the x60.
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I do! I have 2 R8 Armour shafts. They are the most suitable flex sr shafts for me. Everything else seems too stiff. Sucks, cause one of them seems to have lost the kick point and the other one which I barely used got slashed last game and seems like it's already cracking....
Spidey
10-27-2010, 07:16 AM
Where do you work? Your info seems pretty good
I do! I have 2 R8 Armour shafts. They are the most suitable flex sr shafts for me. Everything else seems too stiff. Sucks, cause one of them seems to have lost the kick point and the other one which I barely used got slashed last game and seems like it's already cracking....
one95 are overrated in their flex system.. so if yu like a shaft that is a tad whippier, even in adult flexes, try that to get used to the one95.. also the s17s are overrated in flex as well. or you can just try to scrounge a bunch of tps shafts or ops's from places like hockey monkey..
i know sports exchange has a few pro stocks you can give a try
SumAznGuy
10-27-2010, 07:39 AM
you cant really tell if it was the blade... it could be the shaft losing it's kick and flex point. also, the blade may be the first thing for the macdaddys to go, but does it mean it is not durable? how long did each macdaddy last? if the blade breaks, and the stick lasted for 3-4 months i would still say it lasted a decent amount of time.. the nature of the sport can cause sticks to last anywhere from 1 game to 20 games.. but the important thing is how they break..
but all in all, the bauer one95 is def the most durable stick i have used and it is the best performing one at that... i think that, we all agree on! well most of us.
When I lean on the stick from the top, you can see the blade bend a lot more when I compared it to a newer Macdaddy. I believe that is why they went with the splyne blade on the newer sticks.
I was getting close to 3 months on each stick, so you are right about that.
Last game, during warmup, I noticed one of my One95's is starting to go. Snap and slap shots were starting to feel weird. Switched to my other stick and the shots were back to normal again.
Guess it is time to make a trip down to SE to look at some pro-stocks. :thumbsup:
Have any of you guys used Montreal sticks before?
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6thGear.
10-27-2010, 11:35 AM
Yes, I like whippy sticks. I do have a one85 stick. Dunno how well it is, since I don't use it much. But I seem to like shafts better than ops. But I was under the impression pro-stocks are stiffer? I dunno.
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mickz
10-27-2010, 03:58 PM
Just picked up a Total ONE OPS today. It's pretty sick but I wasn't a fan of the stick'um grip on the corners of the ONE95, so I'm not really liking the textured grip on the corners of the Total ONE.
Bought another ONE95 as well. After using my BASE stick, with a softer blade, I'll see if it's a quick transition back to Bauer and their more rigid blades.
^
had enough of the BASE already?
mickz
10-27-2010, 05:07 PM
I don't have any plans to stop using the BASE but it's hard to turn down a real Total ONE (not a painted ONE95) for less than $100.
Spidey
10-27-2010, 06:28 PM
I don't have any plans to stop using the BASE but it's hard to turn down a real Total ONE (not a painted ONE95) for less than $100.
wtf? where did you get this deal? and if you can get more i wantttt!!!!
mickz
10-27-2010, 06:37 PM
Helps to know the people who do the logistics for the Canucks equipment ;)
There's no more RH Total ONE sticks available, they have a ton of Sedin sticks (for $200 however) but judging by the carbon fibre weaves and the info on the name plate, they're painted ONE95 sticks. Guess they're trying to dump all their old sticks to make way for their real Total ONEs.
skiiipi
10-27-2010, 09:17 PM
Where do you work? Your info seems pretty good
I work at the Sportchek/Hockey Experts in Richmond Center.
Just goes to prove that you don't need to go to an independent shop to find knowledageable staff.
The Hockey Expert in Sportchek Richmond opens this Friday
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6thGear.
10-27-2010, 10:10 PM
Oh yeah...I heard about that hockey experts thing opening in sport cheks now. Isn't there only 2 of them opening in the lower mainland, the other being park royal or something? Wish it opened 6 yrs ago when my ex was working at sport chek....oh wait...she still is...
Wilso09
10-27-2010, 10:15 PM
I work at the Sportchek/Hockey Experts in Richmond Center.
Just goes to prove that you don't need to go to an independent shop to find knowledageable staff.
The Hockey Expert in Sportchek Richmond opens this Friday
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+1 for Hockey Experts in Richmond Center.
I always avoided SportChek for anything hockey related but when they had their friends and family sale I couldn't say no to 25% off new One100 skates.
The guy who helped me (could have been you Skiiipi) was super helpful and knowledgable. Got me all fitted up and explained a lot about difference between certain high end skates, super feet, and the newer FBV sharpenings.
Hockey Experts won me over, although I would live to support smaller local hockey shops, it's hard to beat the deals large chains can offer on big ticket items.
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skiiipi
10-27-2010, 10:44 PM
+1 for Hockey Experts in Richmond Center.
I always avoided SportChek for anything hockey related but when they had their friends and family sale I couldn't say no to 25% off new One100 skates.
The guy who helped me (could have been you Skiiipi) was super helpful and knowledgable. Got me all fitted up and explained a lot about difference between certain high end skates, super feet, and the newer FBV sharpenings.
Hockey Experts won me over, although I would live to support smaller local hockey shops, it's hard to beat the deals large chains can offer on big ticket items.
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haha probably wasnt me who helped you, i personally didnt sell any One100 during friends/family days, but we do have a few very knowledgeable people who will be working hockey experts.
Please come check out the newly renovated Hockey Expert Concept shop in Richmond Center after Friday, we are 1 of 3 Hockey Expert in BC, and the largest one at 3500 sqft.
skiiipi
10-27-2010, 10:45 PM
Oh yeah...I heard about that hockey experts thing opening in sport cheks now. Isn't there only 2 of them opening in the lower mainland, the other being park royal or something? Wish it opened 6 yrs ago when my ex was working at sport chek....oh wait...she still is...
haha who is your ex? and she works at the Richmond Location?
6thGear.
10-27-2010, 11:26 PM
haha who is your ex? and she works at the Richmond Location?
No, she works at Pacific Center and she's been there since 01/02. I know the manager there and I play on the same team with the manager of the Lougheed location.
Jgresch
10-27-2010, 11:45 PM
sport chek....now with people who know stuff about hockey?
Please come to Maple Ridge...
TheSalesman
10-28-2010, 12:28 AM
they had their friends and family sale I couldn't say no to 25% off new One100 skates.
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what? Sportchek/hockey experts has one100 skates?
and 25% off....I WANT!
mickz
10-28-2010, 12:32 AM
I work at the Sportchek/Hockey Experts in Richmond Center.
Just goes to prove that you don't need to go to an independent shop to find knowledageable staff.
The Hockey Expert in Sportchek Richmond opens this Friday
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Not sure if you could say that about all Sportcheks though. From all my previous experiences it's been a kid who has never strapped on a pair of skates before trying to sell me something they knew nothing about. You might find the occasional employee that actually knows what they're talking about, like one time I was looking for a tennis racket but I guess Sportchek is getting there.
What changes will be made when Hockey Experts opens? You guys going to have a RapidShot system?
Spidey
10-28-2010, 04:37 AM
well, NOW, you don't need to go to independent shops.. before hockey experts entered sport chek, they were a joke, sorry to say.
skiiipi
10-28-2010, 06:02 AM
Not sure if you could say that about all Sportcheks though. From all my previous experiences it's been a kid who has never strapped on a pair of skates before trying to sell me something they knew nothing about. You might find the occasional employee that actually knows what they're talking about, like one time I was looking for a tennis racket but I guess Sportchek is getting there.
What changes will be made when Hockey Experts opens? You guys going to have a RapidShot system?
Unfortunately we don't have the space for a Rapidshot system, our standalone stores have that in Quebec and Alberta, being a concept shop within a sportchek space is limited.
As for what changes, we will have dedicated hockey staff working hockey expert. Larger assortment of product not normally found in a sportchek. Ability to special order anything from all major brands (no Graf).
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skiiipi
10-28-2010, 06:08 AM
well, NOW, you don't need to go to independent shops.. before hockey experts entered sport chek, they were a joke, sorry to say.
We are definately trying to improve our brand image with the launch of hockey expert. But staff knowledge wise....it all depends on who you speak to. Every sporting good store will have staff who are more knowledgeable than others. I've been with this company for 8 years, and worked in 3 different locations, and the level of training that we provide our staff has gotten better and better every year. It may still be a few years away before we are at the level of say The Hockey Shop, or Ice Levels, but we are getting there.
The training regiment for a hockey expert staff is 8 weeks long, with nothing but product knowledge, and for certain staff, on ice demos of products.
and we only hire staff with lots of hockey experiance and background so they can actually relate to all the technology.
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Spidey
10-28-2010, 07:47 AM
We are definately trying to improve our brand image with the launch of hockey expert. But staff knowledge wise....it all depends on who you speak to. Every sporting good store will have staff who are more knowledgeable than others. I've been with this company for 8 years, and worked in 3 different locations, and the level of training that we provide our staff has gotten better and better every year. It may still be a few years away before we are at the level of say The Hockey Shop, or Ice Levels, but we are getting there.
The training regiment for a hockey expert staff is 8 weeks long, with nothing but product knowledge, and for certain staff, on ice demos of products.
and we only hire staff with lots of hockey experiance and background so they can actually relate to all the technology.
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you are right. also, with the low-mid level gear sport chek had for the longest time, they weren't going to really attract workers that knew and played a lot of hockey. Those guys would probably a) want discount of higher end stuff that places liek cyclone has and/or b) they wouldn't feel comfortable raving about a pair of one40s, lol.
anyways, it is good to see sport chek carry higher end stuff now. i am going to drop into the richmond location next week to take a look. the prices are still kind of on the steep side for some things though, unless on sale on the weekly flyer.
skiiipi
10-28-2010, 09:25 AM
you are right. also, with the low-mid level gear sport chek had for the longest time, they weren't going to really attract workers that knew and played a lot of hockey. Those guys would probably a) want discount of higher end stuff that places liek cyclone has and/or b) they wouldn't feel comfortable raving about a pair of one40s, lol.
anyways, it is good to see sport chek carry higher end stuff now. i am going to drop into the richmond location next week to take a look. the prices are still kind of on the steep side for some things though, unless on sale on the weekly flyer.
Pricing for the "premium" gear is set by the vendor, not us, so we can't lower the price of say X60 or One100 on a regular basis. (Friends and Family being the only time). The pricing advantage we will have would be the "buy outs" and volume discounts we get on older model. For example we just received a large quantity of the old 9K skate which we will probably blow out for cheap. In addition we have S11 sticks this week for $60 (regular retail $120). That's where we will excel in pricing.
We will also do our best to price match all local competition. (Cannot match online for obvious reasons)
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Spidey
10-28-2010, 09:58 AM
Pricing for the "premium" gear is set by the vendor, not us, so we can't lower the price of say X60 or One100 on a regular basis. (Friends and Family being the only time). The pricing advantage we will have would be the "buy outs" and volume discounts we get on older model. For example we just received a large quantity of the old 9K skate which we will probably blow out for cheap. In addition we have S11 sticks this week for $60 (regular retail $120). That's where we will excel in pricing.
We will also do our best to price match all local competition. (Cannot match online for obvious reasons)
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thanks for the info.
how does the warranty work with the sticks?
skiiipi
10-28-2010, 10:12 AM
All of our stick comes with a 30 day manufacture's warrenty, including pro stock. All warrenty are dealt strictly with the manufacture with the exception of warrior and vic which we handle in house with a one time replacement within the 30 day period
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mickz
10-28-2010, 10:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R17wHMMYIg
It's guys like this that make me tell all my friends starting out to stay the fuck away from Hockey Experts. I only shop at Sportchek when it's on sale and I already know what I want so I just buy it and get out.
Wilso09
10-28-2010, 11:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R17wHMMYIg
It's guys like this that make me tell all my friends starting out to stay the fuck away from Hockey Experts. I only shop at Sportchek when it's on sale and I already know what I want so I just buy it and get out.
Haha, that guy is a joke!
"ccm has "lace-lock" which bumps up the price of their skates".
Haha, I'm sure the "lace-lock" feature is the main contributing factor to why the skate cost 400+!
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Spidey
10-28-2010, 02:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R17wHMMYIg
It's guys like this that make me tell all my friends starting out to stay the fuck away from Hockey Experts. I only shop at Sportchek when it's on sale and I already know what I want so I just buy it and get out.
he's not so much an idiot more just nervous as shit lol
skiiipi
10-28-2010, 05:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R17wHMMYIg
It's guys like this that make me tell all my friends starting out to stay the fuck away from Hockey Experts. I only shop at Sportchek when it's on sale and I already know what I want so I just buy it and get out.
I have to agree that he probably isn't the best person for an interview, that being said, please do not "blanket" us based on one person, come in and see for your self whether or not we have the "right" staff for a hockey shop.
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Spidey
10-28-2010, 05:42 PM
if you know your stuff, you're gold. if you don't you will learn.. eventually.. the internet /modsquadhockey and other sites are very informative.. ie. youtubes product reviews as well
a lot of people say that there isn't a big diff between 200 and 800 dollar skates.. well.. imo i think there is. i am very aware of my body when i am exercises and playing sports, so i feel everything.. skates being a bit stiffer... tongue being thicker etc.. i personally like very stiff skates with a thick tongue.. you arent going to get stiff skates when they are made out of plastic (lower end). not everybody needs to get the high end stuff, but for me, i personally think it is worth the money since i play hockey about 2 times a week and want to perform my best. i totally respect people who play for fun and just want equipment that will alst them a couple years.
for example, if i were to get a tennsi racquet i would get a mid level one.. i play for fun and not seriously passionate about it, so i do not need a replica of nadals racquet.
mickz
10-28-2010, 05:55 PM
he's not so much an idiot more just nervous as shit lol
It doesn't have anything to do with being nervous, he simply doesn't know what he's talking about.
He doesn't sound like he's actually played minor hockey contrary to what he claims based on the fact mouth guards aren't a requirement for minor hockey in Canada ("Juvi" is another story.) He also says wrist guards are a required add-on, yeah right. Skates don't cost over $800, especially not the ones they sell, not unless you're getting customs or Total ONE.
The steel on high end skates definitely aren't harder to break. The steel on the original LightSpeed and LS2 Power holders on Bauer's top end models kept snapping when they first came out. The employee being interviewed explains Vapor skates are expensive because they have Tuuk holders... I can go to Canadian Tire and get a low end pair of Vapors with Tuuks and they're definitely not expensive.
And leather skates have no support? Err.... Graf?
I have to agree that he probably isn't the best person for an interview, that being said, please do not "blanket" us based on one person, come in and see for your self whether or not we have the "right" staff for a hockey shop.
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Definitely not saying all Sportchek employees are the same. I'm sure there's a few knowledgeable employees here and there but the guy in the video pretty much summed up a typical employee I'd encounter when I shopped in the hockey section at Sportchek in the past. When I was shopping for cages back in minor hockey I asked them what were the differences between a black Itech RBE III and the chrome one. The only answer he could come up with was "It's better."
I'm sure it's changed a bit since then especially with Sportchek carrying higher end equipment. I stopped by Park Royal today and looked around the Hockey Experts section there. They have a pretty good selection but it would've been nice if they had an area where you could try out some sticks and shoot a couple pucks like they do with the golf equipment.
Just get people to pay like $20 or what not up front in exchange for a $20 voucher used towards the purchase of a stick and a few minutes of shooting. Making people pay up front will weed out all the idiots who just want to kick tires and dick around breaking stuff.
skiiipi
10-28-2010, 07:49 PM
The Rapidshot System is found in our standalone HX stores which we do not yet have yet in BC.
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SolidPenguin
10-28-2010, 08:41 PM
+1 for Hockey Experts in Richmond Center.
I always avoided SportChek for anything hockey related but when they had their friends and family sale I couldn't say no to 25% off new One100 skates.
The guy who helped me (could have been you Skiiipi) was super helpful and knowledgable. Got me all fitted up and explained a lot about difference between certain high end skates, super feet, and the newer FBV sharpenings.
Hockey Experts won me over, although I would live to support smaller local hockey shops, it's hard to beat the deals large chains can offer on big ticket items.
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Are you friends with Ray? Were you there with a few other guys checking out other gear? If it was then i helped you. Otherwise, its the other Hockey Ex guy, haha
Wilso09
10-28-2010, 10:36 PM
Are you friends with Ray? Were you there with a few other guys checking out other gear? If it was then i helped you. Otherwise, its the other Hockey Ex guy, haha
No, I just came in by myself, pretty much knew I wanted the one100's since I tried them on before, buy I tried the x60's aswell just to compare.
Bought the one100's w/ superfeet and tried the FBV sharpening (which I would recommend people to try if they haven't already, great bite and glide!)
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SolidPenguin
10-29-2010, 12:43 AM
No, I just came in by myself, pretty much knew I wanted the one100's since I tried them on before, buy I tried the x60's aswell just to compare.
Bought the one100's w/ superfeet and tried the FBV sharpening (which I would recommend people to try if they haven't already, great bite and glide!)
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Then it was the other guy. Short japanese dood?
How are you liking your One100's? I just got a pair myself, skated on them about 4 times
Wilso09
10-29-2010, 04:58 AM
Then it was the other guy. Short japanese dood?
How are you liking your One100's? I just got a pair myself, skated on them about 4 times
Yeah, it was a Japanese guy who helped me out. Nice guy, spent a lot of time to fit the skates. I think I came in right when he was about to take his break, so it was nice that he still took all the steps needed to do things right rather than rush the process and GTFO.
The 100's are awesome! Used them for maybe 6-7 sessions now so really starting to get used to them. I'm coming from very used grafs that have become fairly soft so the 100's seemed HELLA stiff frat few times I used them.
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Wilso09
10-29-2010, 05:18 AM
Double post...
Spidey
10-29-2010, 07:44 AM
Yeah, it was a Japanese guy who helped me out. Nice guy, spent a lot of time to fit the skates. I think I came in right when he was about to take his break, so it was nice that he still took all the steps needed to do things right rather than rush the process and GTFO.
The 100's are awesome! Used them for maybe 6-7 sessions now so really starting to get used to them. I'm coming from very used grafs that have become fairly soft so the 100's seemed HELLA stiff frat few times I used them.
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yah, took me about the same amount of outtings to get used to my one100s. i love the thick tongue...
Wilso09
10-29-2010, 03:40 PM
yah, took me about the same amount of outtings to get used to my one100s. i love the thick tongue...
The felt tongue is great! I had Graf felt tongues in mine before so it's a familiar comfort. Guy at the hockeyshop says a lot if people who bought the TotalOne's come back in to change their tongue to the felt one100 one.
Anyways, getting back on semi-topic about sticks...
I was wondering if all the stick whores on here actually dish out the $150-200+ retail for the high end sticks they would like to "try out". I know people who work at sport check can use their staff discount on their sticks, but does everyone else try to get connections here and there?
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Spidey
10-29-2010, 06:14 PM
The felt tongue is great! I had Graf felt tongues in mine before so it's a familiar comfort. Guy at the hockeyshop says a lot if people who bought the TotalOne's come back in to change their tongue to the felt one100 one.
Anyways, getting back on semi-topic about sticks...
I was wondering if all the stick whores on here actually dish out the $150-200+ retail for the high end sticks they would like to "try out". I know people who work at sport check can use their staff discount on their sticks, but does everyone else try to get connections here and there?
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to me, 150 for a high end stick is "cheap" i would never spend more than 150 before taxes though. .. i basically either try to find a deal on last years high end sticks... or even 2 years ago.. or get the pro stocks from sports exchange.
however, i am in the process of trying out a base stick.. they have the new bc01 (hossa pro) clone.. :D:D:D. and their prices are very reasonable.
SumAznGuy
10-29-2010, 08:36 PM
All my Macdaddy's were on clearance for $130 or $150, a few years ago.
The S17 was on clearance from SE for $150.
My current One95's were from a group buy.
SumAznGuy
10-29-2010, 08:40 PM
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My 9K's came with the thin tongues. First thing i did was get the felt RBK tonges.
The thicker tongers do a lot to prevent lace burn and for me, makes the skates fit better.
SolidPenguin
10-29-2010, 09:18 PM
The felt tongue is great! I had Graf felt tongues in mine before so it's a familiar comfort. Guy at the hockeyshop says a lot if people who bought the TotalOne's come back in to change their tongue to the felt one100 one.
Well thats kinda dumb. Cause the two skates are basically the same except for the tongue and the runner. Shoulda just bought the One100's to begin with. And switch to FusionRunners for $150 later if you really wanna save 40grams total
Spidey
10-29-2010, 09:27 PM
Well thats kinda dumb. Cause the two skates are basically the same except for the tongue and the runner. Shoulda just bought the One100's to begin with. And switch to FusionRunners for $150 later if you really wanna save 40grams total
actually they're not the same.. the tongue, runner, eyelet height, height of the boot itself are all different...
is it worth the extra... 200 bucks? no.. not imo. for me, if equipment has too many "addons" or "accessories" it kinda gets hokey.. i dont want an interchangeable tongue, nor do i want pumps on my skates... (rbk). that is why i almost always buy prostocks.. even with gloves.. i want nash palms not some dri fit synthetic crap
6thGear.
11-03-2010, 10:42 PM
So, question...should I try INT OPS/shafts? I generally have to use the most flexible SR sticks I can find and then cut them down to size, which of course stiffens the stick back up. Is it worth a shot to try them out? I'm 5'5, 145lbs so I'm not big by any means. I generally play defense and I do quite a bit of slap shots but I'd also like to be able to flex my stick enough to have a decent wrist shot (which badly sucks). Whats the stiffest for INT sticks, 75flex?
beetea
11-03-2010, 10:46 PM
Yeah 75 Flex is the stiffest you can get in a INT.
Depends on how much you cut the stick down. Say you pick up a 65/67 flex and have to cut it down to the 85/87+ flex you should be good.
A lot of my friends are using whippy flexes and shoot rockets with them. So it doesn't hurt to give it a shot.
6thGear.
11-03-2010, 11:15 PM
Don't think I need to cut it down too much, I checked out an INT stick the other day and it came up to the bridge of my nose.
Say you pick up a 65/67 flex and have to cut it down to the 85/87+ flex you should be good.
85flex INT and 85flex SR isn't the same?
SolidPenguin
11-04-2010, 12:07 AM
Don't think I need to cut it down too much, I checked out an INT stick the other day and it came up to the bridge of my nose.
85flex INT and 85flex SR isn't the same?
I think what he meant was if you get an INT(65/67 uncut) stick and cut it down to 85. But if you got a SNR(85/87 uncut) and cut it down the same length it could be about 95-100 flex
RiceIntegraRS
11-04-2010, 04:35 PM
when does sports exchange have pro stock sticks available?
6thGear.
11-04-2010, 06:43 PM
I think what he meant was if you get an INT(65/67 uncut) stick and cut it down to 85. But if you got a SNR(85/87 uncut) and cut it down the same length it could be about 95-100 flex
I understood what he mean't. I have flexed a noncut 87flex SR stick before and it's too stiff for me. Which is why I asked if an INT cut down stick to 87flex to a uncut SR 87 is the same. (well, maybe not in so many words)
raygunpk
11-04-2010, 06:58 PM
I've heard a few people say the kickpoint areas are placed differently, therefore affecting the flex of SR vs INT, even with the same flex. I know I have a 52 flex JR stick from before, and it was way stiffer than listed. But don't take my word for it.
Also check out shafts from Harrow, they are longer than the other companies so it won't be as stiff when you cut.
SolidPenguin
11-04-2010, 08:25 PM
I understood what he mean't. I have flexed a noncut 87flex SR stick before and it's too stiff for me. Which is why I asked if an INT cut down stick to 87flex to a uncut SR 87 is the same. (well, maybe not in so many words)
Ahh i see. Yah generally they would be pretty close. The lines on the back of the sticks/shafts are mostly guidlines and wont be 100%. But close.
Also Easton sticks now, starting from about last year, are only the listed flex after being cut about 1.5"-2"approx. So an uncut stick will feel whippier than listed. The flex rating on the cutting guidlines on the back reflect that.
eg: Reebok 85 uncut will be stiffer than Easton 85 uncut.
6thGear.
11-06-2010, 12:50 PM
I've heard a few people say the kickpoint areas are placed differently, therefore affecting the flex of SR vs INT, even with the same flex. I know I have a 52 flex JR stick from before, and it was way stiffer than listed. But don't take my word for it.
Also check out shafts from Harrow, they are longer than the other companies so it won't be as stiff when you cut.
I've seen Harrow around but not much anymore. Who still carries them?
Ahh i see. Yah generally they would be pretty close. The lines on the back of the sticks/shafts are mostly guidlines and wont be 100%. But close.
Also Easton sticks now, starting from about last year, are only the listed flex after being cut about 1.5"-2"approx. So an uncut stick will feel whippier than listed. The flex rating on the cutting guidlines on the back reflect that.
eg: Reebok 85 uncut will be stiffer than Easton 85 uncut.
Most INT sticks I've looked at the past couple days seems to either be perfect height or at most I would have to cut 1" off
rice cooker
11-08-2010, 03:43 AM
anybody try the reebok 11k yet. im trying to decide on that or the s19
Spidey
11-08-2010, 07:28 AM
anybody try the reebok 11k yet. im trying to decide on that or the s19
personally, id go with the 11k.. reebok sticks are pretty good these days... the only model i didnt like was their 7k sickick retail.. the pro 7ks were great.. the blue and white 7ks were good... i didnt try the 10k though.
skiiipi
11-09-2010, 02:54 PM
Hey just got confirmation that between Nov 11th thru Nov 14th, sportchek + HX is doing buy one get one 50% off on ALL hockey sticks! Which includes sticks such as the S19, EQ50, RBK 11K, Total One, One 95, One 100, Warrior Dolomite DD and Spyne, CCM U+ CL, and much much more.
This is probably the best stick deal we ever had, as we never put our composites on a bogo deal, especially the high end stuff.
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!Nhan
11-09-2010, 03:10 PM
Hey just got confirmation that between Nov 11th thru Nov 14th, sportchek + HX is doing buy one get one 50% off on ALL hockey sticks! Which includes sticks such as the S19, EQ50, RBK 11K, Total One, One 95, One 100, Warrior Dolomite DD and Spyne, CCM U+ CL, and much much more.
This is probably the best stick deal we ever had, as we never put our composites on a bogo deal, especially the high end stuff.
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!Nhan
11-09-2010, 03:11 PM
Hey just got confirmation that between Nov 11th thru Nov 14th, sportchek + HX is doing buy one get one 50% off on ALL hockey sticks! Which includes sticks such as the S19, EQ50, RBK 11K, Total One, One 95, One 100, Warrior Dolomite DD and Spyne, CCM U+ CL, and much much more.
This is probably the best stick deal we ever had, as we never put our composites on a bogo deal, especially the high end stuff.
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Jgresch
11-09-2010, 03:24 PM
how much are the s19s skiipii?
I need a backup, but it seems everytime I buy one I end up breaking my stick... bad luck :(
RiceIntegraRS
11-09-2010, 05:10 PM
AND how much are the one95's there? and they still have there 30 day warranty right?
and this deal is at Sportcheck/ Hockey Experts in richmond center?
skiiipi
11-09-2010, 06:27 PM
AND how much are the one95's there? and they still have there 30 day warranty right?
and this deal is at Sportcheck/ Hockey Experts in richmond center?
This deal is valid at all sportcheks, but yes come shop at the richmond centre one if you want the best selection because we have a HX
One95 is 239.99 and yes it carries a warrenty
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skiiipi
11-09-2010, 06:28 PM
how much are the s19s skiipii?
I need a backup, but it seems everytime I buy one I end up breaking my stick... bad luck :(
We sell out S19 at $309.99, someone mentioned that hockey shop sells it for cheaper, so I will price match for a single stick, or do the buy one get one deal at the $309.99 price depending on which ever is a better deal for the customer
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Spidey
11-09-2010, 06:58 PM
309 is steeep.. i think they are usually 269.
SolidPenguin
11-09-2010, 07:18 PM
If you need a hand with any of the hockey gear inside HX, look for the associate with the black Revscene lanyard. I ll be glad to help you guys out
skiiipi
11-09-2010, 08:03 PM
309 is steeep.. i think they are usually 269.
Yea I have no problem matching the 269 price of the hockey shop
But if you want to take advantage of the buy one get one 50% off promo, we can only do that with the system price, which works out to around $230 each when you buy two.
If you are seriously interested in buying 2 S19s, come in and see one of us and we'll see if we can do any better
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skiiipi
11-09-2010, 08:10 PM
309 is steeep.. i think they are usually 269.
Just found out from my hockey manager that the S19 is already marked down, not sure how much its marked down to, but should be lower than the 309.99 + the bogo on top of that.
Apprently the One95 is on sale too, I'll update prices tmr after I find out at work. And bogo will still apply with on sale items too
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skiiipi
11-10-2010, 03:36 PM
S19 is $279.99, One95 219.99
Both eligiable for the buy one get one half price deal
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hey skiiipi
do you guys do fbv at richmond centre?
i've been going to the one on marine drive to get it done
skiiipi
11-11-2010, 03:41 PM
Yes we do
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cool, did you guys just get the machine recently?
i was only going to the marine drive one cause i only knew of a few sportcheks that had them
skiiipi
11-11-2010, 04:04 PM
We had the machine for about 3 month now.
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do you work on skates?
im gonna drop by tomorrow
skiiipi
11-11-2010, 04:19 PM
Yea, I can sharpen them, or any of the HX guys.
Just make sure you ask the HX guys to sharpen it specifically, as oppose to just giving it to the techs.
The techs do an okay job, but they are not hockey players, the HX guys will do a better job. (As long as u come during the day)
The mgr of HX, short japanese guy, and solidpenguin, asian guy with black revscene lanyard both do a very good job.
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6thGear.
11-12-2010, 02:16 PM
Went by Rich center this afternoon to check out some sticks. Totalones are so sweet! I think the MGR helped me. Although I might just get a mid model Warrior. Can't remember the model.
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was there around 5 ... wasnt really anybody around the hockey department
Spidey
11-12-2010, 11:41 PM
have had my base stick for about 3 ice times now.. getting used to the 75 flex (never used anything whippier than an 87 in the past)... and also the nice toe hook i need to get used to! but i do love the feel of the shaft and the blade.. no pinginess at all compared to the x60. dont really wanna try the totalone unless they have pro returns for 150 at sports exchange sometime.. but as for the base blade.. it seems like a tank and doesnt feel like it will give out quickly. some pics
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs944.snc4/73741_466621663128_512413128_5671282_2564569_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs988.snc4/76145_466621613128_512413128_5671280_7496708_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs945.snc4/73868_466621648128_512413128_5671281_6121299_n.jpg
Leopold Stotch
11-14-2010, 02:47 AM
have had my base stick for about 3 ice times now.. getting used to the 75 flex (never used anything whippier than an 87 in the past)... and also the nice toe hook i need to get used to! but i do love the feel of the shaft and the blade.. no pinginess at all compared to the x60. dont really wanna try the totalone unless they have pro returns for 150 at sports exchange sometime.. but as for the base blade.. it seems like a tank and doesnt feel like it will give out quickly. some pics
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs944.snc4/73741_466621663128_512413128_5671282_2564569_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs988.snc4/76145_466621613128_512413128_5671280_7496708_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs945.snc4/73868_466621648128_512413128_5671281_6121299_n.jpg
you must be a friend of Brian T, i saw him tagged on FB in your 2nd photo.
i'm highly considering getting a fitting and a stick from BASE
Spidey
11-14-2010, 09:32 AM
yup.. brian tran is my biatch... he will tell you the same thing :)
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