[Death2Theft]

Has anyone succesfully disputed a ticket they got for using a "electronic device" while driving? Not for talking?

[Lomac]

Er... what's your defence going to be, exactly?

[Death2Theft]

I had just finished making a call on my blueant speaker phone we were at a red light so i was holding my phone expecting to hit the end button, when the other person finished which was about 5-6 seconds from when he rolled up beside me. I hit end put the phone down and he waited till the ligth changed to green before pulling me over.

[Jgresch]

You can't operate a cell phone while driving. What counts as operating a cell phone?
Probably holding the device and pressing a button on it ;) just pay the ticket and buy a handsfree.

[mb_]

You can't operate a cell phone while driving. What counts as operating a cell phone?
Probably holding the device and pressing a button on it ;) just pay the ticket and buy a handsfree.

I had just finished making a call on my blueant speaker phone we were at a red light so i was holding my phone expecting to hit the end button, when the other person finished which was about 5-6 seconds from when he rolled up beside me. I hit end put the phone down and he waited till the ligth changed to green before pulling me over.
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[FerrariEnzo]

doest matter if your pressing the END call button or looking at it.. you were still using it while operating your car and the cop caught you red handed...

[Jgresch]

I had just finished making a call on my blueant speaker phone we were at a red light so i was holding my phone expecting to hit the end button, when the other person finished which was about 5-6 seconds from when he rolled up beside me. I hit end put the phone down and he waited till the ligth changed to green before pulling me over.

You can't operate a cell phone while driving. What counts as operating a cell phone?
Probably holding the device and pressing a button on it ;) just pay the ticket and buy a handsfree.

dont be a smartass. By handsfree I meant something you don't need to use your hands with! like a blue tooth where the end call button is on the peice, or voice activated

[falcon]

I got nabbed by a copper hiding in one of those stuffed animal things people dance around on the side of the road.

I'm disputing and since the guy who saw me nd the one who wrote the ticket, well see if they don't show.

Got nothing to loose since it's not a point ticket.

[Lomac]

If it's the S1 like mine, there actually is an end call button on the device...

[DC5-S]

I saw a cop talking on his cell the other day while driving...
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[604Sparda]

^ did you give him a ticket?

[ruthless]

LOL police officers are exempt from this law.

[1exotic]

cops use radio's, the are irresponsible dangerous drivers, right?

[JiggaZed]

LOL police officers are exempt from the law.

/fixed

[TOS'd]

cops use radio's, the are irresponsible dangerous drivers, right?

Apparently those like construction ppl or contractors that use two way radio things to communication to HQ, those radios are exempt from the cellphone/electronic law too. Or so I've been told.
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[moomooCow]

So even at a red light cops will still bust you for it? Before anyone repeats the law to me verbatim, I know what the law states, but I assumed there was some kind of leniency to it, like the speed limit does.

[vafanculo]

So even at a red light cops will still bust you for it? Before anyone repeats the law to me verbatim, I know what the law states, but I assumed there was some kind of leniency to it, like the speed limit does.

I'm sure there is. He probably found a cop who wasn't lenient though.
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[TOS'd]

There shouldn't be any leniency for this law. It isn't that difficult to follow. People that get a ticket for this type of thing deserve it somehow. OP got a ticket because he had his phone in his hand. Your phone should be fixed onto something, not just sitting in a cup holder or your hand, if you plan on using it paired with a bluetooth device.

[Lomac]

There shouldn't be any leniency for this law. It isn't that difficult to follow. People that get a ticket for this type of thing deserve it somehow. OP got a ticket because he had his phone in his hand. Your phone should be fixed onto something, not just sitting in a cup holder or your hand, if you plan on using it paired with a bluetooth device.

Many cars don't have a space for you to fix a cell mount to the dash.

[TOS'd]

Many cars don't have a space for you to fix a cell mount to the dash.

Then....buy one of those mount things, or a better bluetooth device so you can leave your phone in your pocket. Or a better solution, don't use your phone while you drive.

[Jgresch]

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0902/bluetooth-blue-tooth-ghetto-phone-cheap-poor-welfare-black-demotivational-poster-1233878025.jpg

[gars]

and with cell phones nowadays, if the other party ends the call, you don't stay connected, your phone automatically disconnects. there's no need to press no end button.

phones have an auto-answer feature as well, if you want.

[FerrariEnzo]

i dnt know why people are still complaining about this...

if you dont want a ticket, dont get caught or dont use it.. isnt it simple enough.
if you want to argue that other people are doing it, then they are lucky no cops are around....

[Jgresch]

Actually, a friend of mine was parked in his driveway talking on his cell phone when a cop drove by, pulled behind him and gave him a ticket lol.... He's fighting it of course, but it seemed a little ridiculous to me....

(Unless my friend is lying and was driving home or something and the cop followed him)

[FerrariEnzo]

the chances of seeing someone talking on a cell phone while in their own driveway is very little... so i call BS... was he in gear or something

[wuuhoo]

^ i thought your keys are not allowed to be in the ignition, if you are using your phone?

[jackmeister]

^ i thought your keys are not allowed to be in the ignition, if you are using your phone?

what if you're parked and needed to start the engine so you can charge your cell phone?

[Tim Budong]

the cop has gotta be an asshole if your parked to the side and stills gives u a ticket/warning.

but really
what the hell is the difference between talkin on the phone while driving and doin makeup in the car while drivin..or holding onto a hot cup of coffee

retarded

[FerrariEnzo]

what if you're parked and needed to start the engine so you can charge your cell phone?
you dont need to start the engine, you can put it on acc. and you can use the outlet.

[zulutango]

Definitions
214.1 In this Part:

"electronic device" means

(a) a hand-held cellular telephone or another hand-held electronic device that includes a telephone function,

(b) a hand-held electronic device that is capable of transmitting or receiving electronic mail or other text-based messages, or

(c) a prescribed class or type of electronic device;

"use", in relation to an electronic device, means one or more of the following actions:

(a) holding the device in a position in which it may be used;

(b) operating one or more of the device’s functions;

(c) communicating orally by means of the device with another person or another device;

(d) taking another action that is set out in the regulations by means of, with or in relation to an electronic device.

Prohibition against use of electronic device while driving
214.2 (1) A person must not use an electronic device while driving or operating a motor vehicle on a highway.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1), a person must not communicate by means of an electronic device with another person or another device by electronic mail or other text-based message.

[ilvtofu]

Definitions
214.1 In this Part:

"electronic device" means

(a) a hand-held cellular telephone or another hand-held electronic device that includes a telephone function,

(b) a hand-held electronic device that is capable of transmitting or receiving electronic mail or other text-based messages, or

(c) a prescribed class or type of electronic device;

"use", in relation to an electronic device, means one or more of the following actions:

(a) holding the device in a position in which it may be used;

(b) operating one or more of the device’s functions;

(c) communicating orally by means of the device with another person or another device;

(d) taking another action that is set out in the regulations by means of, with or in relation to an electronic device.

Prohibition against use of electronic device while driving
214.2 (1) A person must not use an electronic device while driving or operating a motor vehicle on a highway.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1), a person must not communicate by means of an electronic device with another person or another device by electronic mail or other text-based message.

I think this one

(a) holding the device in a position in which it may be used;
Is the one that screwed the OP over, holding it to press end key could just as easily be texting especially from a couple meters away IMO

[bloodmack]

I saw a cop talking on his cell the other day while driving...
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They'll claim that they are trained to use a electronic device and drive.

Really? Failing me? Go google up why they are exempt, you see them using the cruiser computers all the time, thats way worst then a cell phone.

[underscore]

Definitions
214.1 In this Part:

"electronic device" means

(a) a hand-held cellular telephone or another hand-held electronic device that includes a telephone function,

(b) a hand-held electronic device that is capable of transmitting or receiving electronic mail or other text-based messages, or

(c) a prescribed class or type of electronic device;

"use", in relation to an electronic device, means one or more of the following actions:

(a) holding the device in a position in which it may be used;

(b) operating one or more of the device’s functions;

(c) communicating orally by means of the device with another person or another device;

(d) taking another action that is set out in the regulations by means of, with or in relation to an electronic device.

Prohibition against use of electronic device while driving
214.2 (1) A person must not use an electronic device while driving or operating a motor vehicle on a highway.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1), a person must not communicate by means of an electronic device with another person or another device by electronic mail or other text-based message.

For a second part C confused me, until I re-read the "hand-held" part above.

Apparently those like construction ppl or contractors that use two way radio things to communication to HQ, those radios are exempt from the cellphone/electronic law too. Or so I've been told.
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IIRC, anything that you use has to be fixed and have to be "1-touch," correct? So since a 2 way radio (or at least all the ones I've seen) allow you to communicate with only 1 button, they're fine?

[InvisibleSoul]

Actually, a friend of mine was parked in his driveway talking on his cell phone when a cop drove by, pulled behind him and gave him a ticket lol.... He's fighting it of course, but it seemed a little ridiculous to me....

(Unless my friend is lying and was driving home or something and the cop followed him)
Hmm, can you still get a ticket even if you're on your own property?

[Lomac]

Then....buy one of those mount things, or a better bluetooth device so you can leave your phone in your pocket. Or a better solution, don't use your phone while you drive.

I have a Blue Ant S1, which is a bluetooth speaker. It keeps both my ears free, which I actually think is safer than having one ear plugged with an ear mounted one. It's one touch answer/end. The only time I pick up my phone is to look at who's calling, and that takes about as much time as looking down at the screen in my car when I want to see what the temperature is set at, and it's a hell of a lot quicker than looking at what radio station I'm wanting to change to.

Now tell me again why I need to mount my cellphone to the dash?

[TOS'd]

Cause even picking up your phone to look at it is apparently illegal. You can't prove you were just looking at the screen, you could have just fired off a text msg or email.

[wobuffet]

newest thing to hit the streets! now go get one.
http://www.robdurdle.com/images/latest_bluetooth_thumb.jpg