what kinda amp for tweeters?

[Perfect_ESL]

recently i added a tweeter to deck power,
i sounds good when the cross over set to 10 khz, wont hurt the ears, nice treble, very good, but just NOT LOUD ENOUGH !! have to crank up the volume, but cranking up the volume the mid and low will turn up too

if i turn the crossover lower to 6.3 khz, it is louder, but hurts the year and sounds kinda weird,,,

i THINK, i THINK... i need an amp for the tweets, and just keep the high crossover at 10khz?

how many watts amp for tweeters?
a sub amp will need a 4 or 8 gauge wire,,, but this is just a tweeter amp, can i just put 14 gauge wire on it.

[installerz]

What kind of tweeters are they?

[s.t.k.]

depends how your tweeters are wired too.

i.e. parallel to the coaxes with an inline cap to cut off low frequencies.

[MG1]

Distortion kills, so as long as the signal is clean, no problem with amount of power (to an extent). Installerz asked about type of speakers because its operating parameters/characteristics are important. I gather you are happy with the tweeters and the way they sound. Soft dome tweeters?

How do you have your present system set up? Do you have the mid/woofer rolling off naturally? Sometimes that works well, depending on the characteristics of that part of your system (efficiency, off axis performance, etc.).

In any case, it sounds like you are ready for an upgrade.

Time to go visit a sponsor and get some advice. Advice is free and all the sponsors here know their shit. Since you are contemplating an external amp, why not go with a decent component set, where the speakers are matched and take it from there.

Just my two bits...........

[Perfect_ESL]

Originally Posted by installerz

What kind of tweeters are they?

they are rockford fosgate tweets off a old component set,
i did not use the crossover came with the component set, because on the deck there is crossover. , now the deck is on 3-way operation,
4 channel amp is concept cc504 (free amp from someone, lol) deck is alpine CDA-9815, (2003)

and hey S.T.K, what are caps and how do they look like and what are they?

and btw, i only use equipments that are nice and cheap, and i dont buy new products. i only go used. , speakers i would sometimes buy new

[Perfect_ESL]

http://www.carstereopro.com/concept/CC-504A.htm

look at this,, seems like bridging this amp to 2 channel is more efficient

[s.t.k.]

inline capacitors look like this:





hmmm.... i get how your system is running but i'd prefer running it in a different way.

1.) simple. use the crossovers (rockford set ur referring to) to get more power to the midbass and tweeters.

2.) advanced. get another amp, run the system in full active configuration (trust me, HUGE difference in sound; though it depends on how ur speakers sound). your 9815 is full active capable already so might as well take advantage of it.

[orgasm_donor]

Running an amplifier bridged will give you more power but also increase your total harmonic distortion.

[Perfect_ESL]

the bass from my mids are pretty weak althought it is powered by the amp,
stk, what is full active configuration? and i cant use the crossover (from rockford component, its broken)
adding another amp for the tweets is good ?
look, the mids is a coaxial speakers, not a mid from the component, is it cool ?
i have the mid from the rockford component set, but due to it has been stored for a long period of time and it has been stacked and now the surrounding of the speaker is sqeesed down,, you think its useable ?

[Perfect_ESL]

what is the FULL name of "caps" you are talking about,
let me do some research on what exactly it is

[s.t.k.]

so let me get this straight: you're running coaxials + a tweeter? i wouldn't recommend doing so because of the tweeter frequencies all mixing up together. also, the tweeters overpower the mid and low frequencies; it sacrifices the sound quality of your system.

Passive: HU-Amp-Crossover-Speaker

Active: HU-Crossover-Amp-Speaker (this is way more complicated than it seems as you'd have to have someone with experience tune your system, or you'll risk burning your tweeters.)


those caps are actually high-end capacitors. heck, i don't even know where you get those here in vancouver. there is however, a cheaper alternative. i was able to get some capacitors (generic ones obviously) from an electronics store along Main St.


overall though, i'd rather invest in a decent component set.

[orgasm_donor]

We have some caps at our shop. We also have some great crossovers that we can sell you for cheap if you'd prefer.

[installerz]

Originally Posted by s.t.k.

so let me get this straight: you're running coaxials + a tweeter? i wouldn't recommend doing so because of the tweeter frequencies all mixing up together. ??? also, the tweeters overpower the mid and low frequencies; it sacrifices the sound quality of your system.

Active: HU-Crossover-Amp-Speaker (this is way more complicated than it seems as you'd have to have someone with experience tune your system, or you'll risk burning your tweeters.)


Passive: HU-Amp-Crossover-Speaker those caps are actually high-end capacitors. heck, i don't even know where you get those here in vancouver. there is however, a cheaper alternative. i was able to get some capacitors (generic ones obviously) from an electronics store along Main St.


overall though, i'd rather invest in a decent component set.

There are many shops in the Lower Mainland that can help you with these issues. We have the proper tools to measure and adjust your system to sound great without the problem of blowing stuff up.
If you prefer sound with plenty of highs, then use the coaxial & tweeter at the same time. If you don't, then disconnect the tweeter on the coaxial.

We have done a lot of installations to the customers criteria. We make our suggestions from experience, but the bottom line is that it's your car, your ears. If that's how you want it to sound, then it's our job to make it happen.

Most aftermarket crossovers come with capacitors & coils to tell each speaker how to sound. A x-over network will make the necessary adjustments, but active is so much nicer. It doesn't steal any power like the x-overs will and you can totally adjust everything for a superior sound. That's why we use this method in all of our award winning vehicles.

[s.t.k.]

^ keith, it messes up the imaging, that's what i meant.

[installerz]

Originally Posted by s.t.k.

^ keith, it messes up the imaging, that's what i meant.

Yes, it will change the imaging, but some people like TONS of tweeter. That's why they make titanium dome tweeters.

If you want really great imaging, then it will take time & testing to get it right.

[s.t.k.]

Originally Posted by installerz

Yes, it will change the imaging, but some people like TONS of tweeter. That's why they make titanium dome tweeters.

If you want really great imaging, then it will take time & testing to get it right.

definitely true. to each his own. that's why i said "i'd do it a diff way" i don't like mine harsh

[Cman333]

Theyre RF FNQ tweeters I believe.

Wow, can't believe he still has them.

[Perfect_ESL]

yes i still have them, from 2002