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xxxrsxxx
09-24-2010, 12:56 PM
where do you guys get your skates sharpened? In the past, I've been going to sports exchange as I got a 10-pack but ran out. Please post cost if possible too.
Jgresch
09-24-2010, 02:44 PM
What city? Cyclone taylors is good. Stay away from sportchek lol
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punkwax
09-24-2010, 03:28 PM
Hockey Shop > anywhere else.
jello24
09-24-2010, 04:59 PM
the hockey shop in surrey if i have time to go there, or if i'm at RIC i just get it done at Cyclone Taylor's...
Hurricane
09-26-2010, 12:45 AM
Another for The Hockey Shop.
But any place that doesn't seem confused when u ask for a 1/2" cut seems to work. Speaking of which. If you are a decent skater, give a 1/2" cut a try, you just might like it. I think 5/8" is standard at most places.
murd0c
09-26-2010, 12:52 AM
Hockey shop and it's all about the deep cut
Spidey
09-28-2010, 07:11 AM
north van canlan rink has the best sharpening I have ever had.. but at 7 bucks a pop, and since I do not play out of there anymore... it is not an option... it literally feels like a hot knife in butter...
but i go to cyclone for good sharpening.. 1/2 hollow woot woot. and yes stay away from sport chek/mart!
xxxrsxxx
09-30-2010, 01:12 PM
fyi I went back to sports exchange. However can you educate me on what 1/2 of 5/8 cut means?
1-Slicer-1
09-30-2010, 08:16 PM
Deep Hollow (3/8, 1/2, 5/8 of an inch) allows for a more pronounced edge, which makes for tighter turns and more bite for stopping. The flipside is the deeper hollow makes the blade sink deeper into the ice causing more drag and less glide. Players with a deep hollow have to work harder because of the friction between ice and blade. The more pronounced edges of a deeper hollow may chip easier and require more maintenance. Players who maneuver in traffic or stop and start a lot may feel more secure with a little extra edge and may prefer a deeper hollow.
Flat/Shallow Hollow (3/4, 7/8, 1 inch) is more conducive to heavier players. The less-pronounced edge allows for more glide because the blade doesn’t sink as deeply into the ice. Players using less hollow will use less energy. A flatter hollow was greatly beneficial to my teammate and defensive partner Paul Coffey. He had one of the most efficient skating strides in the NHL. Paul always experimented with a very flat hollow, between 1 and 2 inches. The flatter hollow blades are easier to sharpen and need less maintenance. There certainly is a general misconception that sharp skates can only be achieved with a deep hollow. In the NHL, a player’s skate hollow is a personal preference based on trial and error and determined after many years of skating.
http://flexxcoach.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/jjohnson_skatesharpening21.jpg?w=412&h=150
Sauce: http://flexxcoach.wordpress.com/2009/01/31/the-cutting-edge-to-skate-sharpening/
Spidey
09-30-2010, 09:47 PM
i prefer 1/2.. never tried anything less, but even 1/2 at times (depending on ice condition) may be a bit too slick.. i toggle between 1/2 and 7/16. thats just me though.. i like straight away speed and i am only 165lbs.
mickz
10-01-2010, 12:24 AM
Anybody on here get their skates done with the Flat Bottom V system? Comments?
beetea
10-01-2010, 12:32 AM
i do my own skates at cyclone taylors
Cyclone Taylor when I'm in Vancouver - The Hockey Shop when I'm in Surrey.
Tip for those of you who like regular maintenance for your skate edges: Get a season pass.
SumAznGuy
10-01-2010, 12:04 PM
I've been experimenting with different hollow's and now that summer is over and the ice is harder, I find that 1/2 and 7/16 is too flat for my liking.
I also find that I have to sharpen the skates a lot more when I use a deeper cut because of the thinness of the edge and the harder ice.
Spidey
10-01-2010, 01:37 PM
i do my own skates at cyclone taylors
i get mine done by nammerboi3 :)
SumAznGuy
10-01-2010, 02:30 PM
Where do I line up to get nammerboi3 to do my skates?
Spidey
10-01-2010, 02:55 PM
Where do I line up to get nammerboi3 to do my skates?
in his bedroom
SumAznGuy
10-01-2010, 03:00 PM
in his bedroom
How long is the lineup? :D
Leopold Stotch
10-02-2010, 12:06 AM
^ depends how close you stand to the guy in front of you .
Sport Chek :D
The Richmond Center/Park Royal/Langley locations do Flat Bottom V for the same price as regular. I got it done on 1 pair of skates and absolutely love the feel and predictability of it, but feel dropped off pretty dramatically after 4-5 outings. From what I've read, its fairly hard to screw up a FBV sharpening.
I'm currently trying to finish up my 10-pack from Sports Exchange. I've had some decent sharpens, and some not so good ones, nothing to write home about either way. I can usually go about 10 outings on regular sharpens at 1/2". I usually hate the way it feels for the first 1-2 games, but then its great for the next 7-8.
I'm in no way a good skater either, but found FBV helped my confidence on skates
TheSalesman
10-04-2010, 03:46 PM
I tried the FBV at sportchek when it was free. To my surprise it worked out pretty well.
Over the years i'v been getting my skates cut at 1/4 - 2.5/8
The time I went to sportchek and asked for those cuts, they didn't know wtf I was talking about. I sharpened my skates every 1 or 2 ice times. I had the cyclone pass which made it really worth it. Sharpening at least once a week.
I will stick with cyclone though because of the pass.
Sportchek FBV is decent from my 1st experience and it was free but at $7 each sharpen, ill stick with the $45 pass.
beetea
10-04-2010, 10:11 PM
sportchek is unreal, the sharpenings that i've seen from them scares me.
some kid brought in his skates and asked that we don't do it like sportchek and im like uhh let me take a look, sure they hooked up the flat bottom v but they only sharpened the middle of the blade.
so there was three inches from the toe of the skate and three inches from the heel of the skate that was left unsharpened. amazing stuff.
m3thods
10-05-2010, 10:55 AM
Anybody on here get their skates done with the Flat Bottom V system? Comments?
I got them done at THS in Surrey. Subjectively, I like it. I get the glide of a 5/8s with the bite of a 1/2, which is perfect for me. I had to get it done about 3-4 times to get the right hollow for me:
first time- 5/8 - not enough bite on tight turns and starts, felt like skating in quicksand
second time - 1/2 - a bit too much bite, but definitely better than 5/8
third time- 9/16 - beautiful.
The great thing about FBV is that they seem to hold an edge much longer. Instead of sharpening every 2-3 skates, I'm on my 5th skate and probably thinking one more before I sharpen again.
Hope this helps. Oh and as a reference, I weigh ~175 lbs.
RayBot
10-05-2010, 10:37 PM
#4 for the hockey shop.
mickz
10-06-2010, 01:05 AM
Think I'm just going to stick with what works ($5 sharpenings at Cyclones.) I'd like to try FBV but I don't know who has a machine other than Sportchek? I haven't been to Sportchek for a sharpening ever since Minor Hockey and even then I knew they weren't doing it properly (burn marks all over the blades.)
m3thods
10-06-2010, 11:17 AM
The Hockey Shop in Surrey has it. If you're in the area, it's superior to Cyclone in almost every way. I used to frequent Cyclone for sharpenings, but they became too inconsistent.
im loving the FBV, cant go back to regular anymore
TheSalesman
10-06-2010, 05:21 PM
Is there anywhere that has a season pass with FBV?
sportchek is unreal, the sharpenings that i've seen from them scares me.
some kid brought in his skates and asked that we don't do it like sportchek and im like uhh let me take a look, sure they hooked up the flat bottom v but they only sharpened the middle of the blade.
so there was three inches from the toe of the skate and three inches from the heel of the skate that was left unsharpened. amazing stuff.
You have also probably not seen hundreds/thousands that they have done properly and well with no issues whatsoever.
I could say the same thing you said about Sportchek with the shop I get my skates done currently. Last time I was in, I asked for 5/8". He asked me if I was sure I didn't want 3/8". If I did, I would have asked for it. He then takes my skate and asks his buddy if the goalie wheel is working. After some back and forth about whether the wheel was/is working because it wasn't a few days ago, he clamps my skate and goes to town on it. Didn't dress the wheel, didn't check the balance of the hollow, finished my pair in about 90 seconds. First off, I'm not sure what goalie gets their skates cut at 5/8. Secondly, even if you're not going to bother dressing the wheel, at least check to make sure the hollow is level before you do your passes. I have 2 sharpens left, when I'm done I'm going to Sportchek for flat bottom from here on in, 10 sharpens for $30 and consistency in my experience is what I'd get at the shop I currently go to anyways.
If I had access to a machine, I'd do my skates myself with my Sportchek learned skills. Sure there were hacks back then that would occassionally sharpen and really had no business doing that, but it seems like that is something that happens EVERYWHERE.
dim_sum
10-10-2010, 07:58 PM
Anybody on here get their skates done with the Flat Bottom V system? Comments?
i had it done... it was fuckin' AWESOME... lots of glide and lots of bite.
only problem is... i had it done at sportscheck by my buddy... but i dont' wanan always travel downtown to get it done...
anybody know of a place that does FBV and provides a consistent sharpening in the vancouver area?
and to the OP... i pretty much only goto cyclone on 49th and oak. 1/2 hallow here as well.
babas
10-13-2010, 03:16 AM
Another one here for The Hockey Shop on Surrey. I bought a season pass back in May and it's effective till next March. I don't remember the exact price but it was around $50-60.
TheSalesman
10-13-2010, 10:48 AM
Another one here for The Hockey Shop on Surrey. I bought a season pass back in May and it's effective till next March. I don't remember the exact price but it was around $50-60.
$40 for regular sharpening and $80 for FBV
I just checked 2 days ago.
skiiipi
10-14-2010, 12:03 AM
Don't understand why independent hockey shops charge more for the FBV, with the exception of the initial machine upgrade, the diamonds last 3-4 times longer than traditional diamonds, the wheel lasts longer because you can dress a wheel without grinding down as much stone and the whole process is easier, if anything shops are saving $ in the long run with the fbv....so don't understand why they charge almost double for the fbv sharpen.
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10 fbv sharpens at sportchek for 30 bucks
fuc|(_off
10-29-2010, 11:00 PM
Sorry to thread jack but i have a question about skates. I recently purchased a pair of vapor XII and realized the blade wasn't Stainless steel. Is it a big deal? Will it rust considerably faster?
skiiipi
10-29-2010, 11:05 PM
not a big deal
Carbon steel is fine, the edge wont last as long, but as long as you keep the blade dry there shouldnt be any rusting issues.
Most entry level skates will have carbon steel as opposed to Stainless Steel
fuc|(_off
10-29-2010, 11:16 PM
not a big deal
Carbon steel is fine, the edge wont last as long, but as long as you keep the blade dry there shouldnt be any rusting issues.
Most entry level skates will have carbon steel as opposed to Stainless Steel
Thanks, I was worried about it rusting bad lol. Another dumb question, any chance you think sport mart will let me exchange these skates for a better pair even though its sharpened?
TheSalesman
10-30-2010, 01:42 AM
^ why don't you bring it back and ask?
skiiipi
10-30-2010, 06:04 AM
As long as you haven't skated on it, not a problem.
Which Mart did you buy it from?
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fuc|(_off
10-30-2010, 09:33 AM
Cool thanks for all the help, called them this morning and they said store exchange is fine. thanks skiiipi.
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