[trd2343]

I've did a quick search and found out that Honda Canada DOES NOT honor the warranty on US Honda (from 2006 thread).

I want to know if that is still the case, because I don't quite understand the wording on both the US and Canada Honda website.

How about Toyotas? I did a quick search and it showed that Toyota would honor the warranty.

Thanks!

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

NEGATIVE!

[trd2343]

negative as in no to honoring warranty on US Honda's right?

If I really intend on getting the car from the states, is third party warranty advisable?

Just to make sure, Toyota does honor the warranty, right? Do they make it a hassle to get it done?

Thanks

[haulin oats]

how about support the local economy, and buy a car from canada?

[TypeRNammer]

how about support the local economy, and buy a car from canada?

How about a no, depending on which honda, he could be saving anywhere from 5 to 10 grand.

The ironic part is the Civics are built in eastern Canada and yet we get jewed with the higher price tag. :rofl:

[lowside67]

Toyota does honour the warranty, Honda does not.

[trd2343]

I've read that even if I got third-party warranty, I would still be better off than buying the car here.

The difference I'm looking at is roughly $3000 with everything in. Is that worth it to go with a 3rd party warranty?

I've never dealt with 3rd-party before, so any experiences will be great!

Thanks

[flagella]

depends on which car. for s2k you can literally save 15 to 20g.

[ruthless]

as stated before honda will not but toyota will check out this site theres a calculator that includes all the fees and stuff
http://www.importcartocanada.info/tools/vehicle-import-price-calculator/

also dont forget to take into account any modifications you may need to do to the car to get it to pass inspection

[Jgresch]

depends on which car. for s2k you can literally save 15 to 20g.

lol i think not......

and OP, warranty is up to you... most hondas won't need much warranty work so $3000 is probably not worth it, however do research on the model you are getting. The warranty on my Hyundai more than double paid for itself with work required....but it was a Hyundai

[oldsnail]

on my last honda.... i've only used my warranty once.. and they replaced a bulb..

[TypeRNammer]

lol i think not......

and OP, warranty is up to you... most hondas won't need much warranty work so $3000 is probably not worth it, however do research on the model you are getting. The warranty on my Hyundai more than double paid for itself with work required....but it was a Hyundai

S2k in the states went for about 35-37K tax in while up here in canada it was about 55K OTD

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:X9Czb7ygwHORbM:http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/19040.jpg&t=1

:rofl:

[Jgresch]

O rly? ^
Maybe 3 years ago when both cars were brand new..... here you go

2008 S2k Canada $26,000~ (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/sss?query=2008+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)
2008 s2k USA $24-$25000 (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=2008+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)
2008 s2k USA $23-26000 (http://seattle.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=2008+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)
2008 s2k USA $24-26,000 (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=2008+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)

I couldn't find any 2009's so I used 2008.... I figured the ones worth more would have more of a difference between usa/canada prices....

Don't forget to ad duty, inspection and all that jazz to the us models, plus no warranty. But I mean hey, at least he was close thinking you could save 15-20k....

Edit: and heres the 2007's from Canada
Roughly $22-$24,000 minus the idiot asking 32k (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/sss?query=2007+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)

And don't try to come back and say well when they were new you could save 15gs... cuz flagella clearly said if you buy an s2k you can save 15-20 grand.....

[trd2343]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I should've been more clear on what I'm getting.

Right now, I'm looking at a 2010 Honda CR-V EX-L

With taxes and everything in, a US 2WD one goes for $31827 on the road.

A CAN 4WD equivalent (have to get it in order to get leather) goes for $35401 with cash incentive and everything.

So that's a difference of roughly $3574 right there. Generally, I agree that on Honda/Toyota, warranty is not very useful unless you get a lemon. But I also would like to be on the safe side, that's why I want to explore the option of getting a 3rd party warranty. Or not get a warranty at all. So I could use some help in the risk management area.

I also have to consider the value of my trade-in. My mom drives a 2004 Sienna right now. So I don't know whether I should try selling it on craigslist or trade-in at the dealership.

[ruthless]

use the calculator i posted and see the actual out the door price including the exchange rate, duty(6.1% if built outside north america), AC fee, GST/PST, RIV Fee, etc. and then compare the two prices to see how much u save

http://www.importcartocanada.info/tools/vehicle-import-price-calculator/

[too_slow]

I think only Audi, Toyota and Lexus honours warranty on a US-import.. Benz and BMW are the biggest bitches (requiring new speedometer from the stealership, etc.. on top of losing your warranty) when it comes to importing

[too_slow]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I should've been more clear on what I'm getting.

Right now, I'm looking at a 2010 Honda CR-V EX-L

With taxes and everything in, a US 2WD one goes for $31827 on the road.

A CAN 4WD equivalent (have to get it in order to get leather) goes for $35401 with cash incentive and everything.

So that's a difference of roughly $3574 right there. Generally, I agree that on Honda/Toyota, warranty is not very useful unless you get a lemon. But I also would like to be on the safe side, that's why I want to explore the option of getting a 3rd party warranty. Or not get a warranty at all. So I could use some help in the risk management area.

I also have to consider the value of my trade-in. My mom drives a 2004 Sienna right now. So I don't know whether I should try selling it on craigslist or trade-in at the dealership.

For $3g's, it's not worth the hassle.. IMHO, you would save the most by importing a Subaru Outback (Subaru Canada will not honour the warranty.. you will have to pay for the repairs up front and then file for a return from Subaru USA)..

[Qmx323]

Honestly, buy it here.

$3574 is no pocket change, but it shouldn't stop you from getting a warranty, even with a reliable brand like Honda.

My moms 97 CR-V now has a slight knock only at 150,000k's and that's with proper maintenance, so you never know.

[!Aznboi128]

just buy it here, warranty and everything

if not go to rs sponsor, Simon Gee at Kingsway Honda make sure it's Simon Gee not the other simon lol. He'll work you a deal

[Funnel]

I'd say buy it here as well. Not only the warranty, also the resell vaule will make the difference back unless you are keeping the car for 10+ years...

Also it's 2wd vs 4wd......I still don't get why people would buy a SUV with 2wd...just for the height?

[Jgresch]

It's just another road block trying to sell and american vehicle up here... Main questions I get about cars for sale are
Accidents?
local?

[godwin]

Imported a slk55 no new speedometer.. recall letter is straight forward.

The Germans are easy to import now.

[QUOTE=too_slow;7120129 Benz and BMW are the biggest bitches (requiring new speedometer from the stealership, etc.. on top of losing your warranty) when it comes to importing[/QUOTE]

[optiblue]

For 3k, just buy it locally. I could have saved 12K for the exact car that I wanted if I bought in the states. I'm still pissed that I didn't!

[haulin oats]

it's just over 3k, and that's not a comparable model. You're looking at a $2000 upgrade from 2WD to 4WD on LX, and EX models. so this is a $1200 difference in price. a warranty will cost you more than this on the car, so you're actually worse off buying the car in the US.

[ericthehalfbee]

I think only Audi, Toyota and Lexus honours warranty on a US-import.. Benz and BMW are the biggest bitches (requiring new speedometer from the stealership, etc.. on top of losing your warranty) when it comes to importing
Don't need to change speedometer anymore - they changed that rule.

[ruthless]

Don't need to change speedometer anymore - they changed that rule.

really? im pretty sure you have to have km/h on the speedo for it to pass (the mb c class for example only has mph no km/h underneath), thats why you have to change it out with a km/h one

[godwin]

As long as you can display it digitally in kph they will let it pass.

really? im pretty sure you have to have km/h on the speedo for it to pass (the mb c class for example only has mph no km/h underneath), thats why you have to change it out with a km/h one

[trd2343]

To those who are wondering why I'm considering 2WD, well, one, my mom likes driving tall vehicle (coming from a van), so it's merely a preference. But the main thing is, I don't think 4WD is necessary, a set of snow tire always trump any system. So since I'm going to get a set of snow tire, I rather save that $3000 by getting a 2WD version.

Just to clarify, I'm comparing a US CRV 2WD EX-L to a CAN CRV 4WD EX-L. I know there's a difference in system, but since I feel I don't need the 4WD (it's a must in Canada to get leather trim), I feel like I'm paying $3000 for nothing.

But the feeling I'm getting from most people is since it's merely $3000, I might as well just forget about importing it and just get it here in Canada instead.

Out of interest, how much would a 3rd party warranty cost?

Thanks all

[Jgresch]

^$2500-$3500 for a 2010 Gold Wrap plan.

And the 2wd will fall in value a lot more than the 4wd up here....

[trd2343]

^$2500-$3500 for a 2010 Gold Wrap plan.

And the 2wd will fall in value a lot more than the 4wd up here....

^Thanks for the info

I don't know of any 3rd party warranty company, so I had no idea it would be this expensive. Nor did I know that 2WD will fall in value a lot more.

[Jgresch]

you can buy cheaper plans that don't last as long, have higher deductable and don't have as much covered...

[trd2343]

Side question:

How much do winter tires degrade over the course of a year of storage?

If I don't get the CR-V this year, that'll mean next fall, which means I'm still stuck with the Sienna for the winter.

Sienna - 16"
CR-V - 17", but tirerack said I can run 16" with a higher profile

I can buy the set of winter and steelies for the CRV, and pick up a used pair of winter for the Sienna, mount it on the steelie for the CRV, and use it for the winter. I'm just wondering should I take that risk and let my winter tire for the CRV sit for a year before actually using them.

[flagella]

O rly? ^
Maybe 3 years ago when both cars were brand new..... here you go

2008 S2k Canada $26,000~ (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/sss?query=2008+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)
2008 s2k USA $24-$25000 (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=2008+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)
2008 s2k USA $23-26000 (http://seattle.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=2008+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)
2008 s2k USA $24-26,000 (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=2008+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)

I couldn't find any 2009's so I used 2008.... I figured the ones worth more would have more of a difference between usa/canada prices....

Don't forget to ad duty, inspection and all that jazz to the us models, plus no warranty. But I mean hey, at least he was close thinking you could save 15-20k....

Edit: and heres the 2007's from Canada
Roughly $22-$24,000 minus the idiot asking 32k (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/sss?query=2007+s2000&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=)

And don't try to come back and say well when they were new you could save 15gs... cuz flagella clearly said if you buy an s2k you can save 15-20 grand.....

Basically 2 s2ks in that link with repeated advertisements. They are cheap because they are most likely imported from US. There's no way you'll find it that cheap if it's a local car. If you are looking for used local 2009 s2k, it'll be well over 40+, while in the states the used 09 is prob around 30k max.

[vitaminG]

i wouldnt bother paying for a 3rd party warranty, if anything major goes wrong just drive or have it towed to a dealer across the border. It might be a hassle but it could save you 3k for a warranty you may never use.

In fact instead of having it towed all the way to a dealer if you needed to, you could just get it towed across the border and then call up roadside assistance and they should tow it the rest of the way.

[trd2343]

i wouldnt bother paying for a 3rd party warranty, if anything major goes wrong just drive or have it towed to a dealer across the border. It might be a hassle but it could save you 3k for a warranty you may never use.

In fact instead of having it towed all the way to a dealer if you needed to, you could just get it towed across the border and then call up roadside assistance and they should tow it the rest of the way.

Huh, you raised a good point there. I need to check that my warranty is not going to be voided if I import to Canada. However, even then, it's still a hassle since the dealership would be really really far.

Now, that got me wondering if that 3k is worth it for 4WD. Knowing that I'm going to put winter tires on, 4WD is just added bonus. On the other hand, Jgresch did mention that 2WD depreciates more quickly than 4WD.

[Jgresch]

Basically 2 s2ks in that link with repeated advertisements. They are cheap because they are most likely imported from US. There's no way you'll find it that cheap if it's a local car. If you are looking for used local 2009 s2k, it'll be well over 40+, while in the states the used 09 is prob around 30k max.

http://www.buysell.com/classifieds/Results/2009_Import_Cars/BC/2103/1/false/keyword/qu+cname+r+class+1_Pg+rw+pshcat/2009+s2000.html?CTAction=RefineByCategory&gok=2009+s2000

I finally found an 09. its $37,800. And if you say the 09s in the states go for $30,000~ Thats about 8 grand. Minus duty, minus inspection, minus any modifications needed, minus any warranty, minus any inspections failed (emission safety etc). You aren't looking at much difference... maybe 4 grand at the most? not really anywhere near the 15-20 grand you said earlier...

[Funnel]

Huh, you raised a good point there. I need to check that my warranty is not going to be voided if I import to Canada. However, even then, it's still a hassle since the dealership would be really really far.

Now, that got me wondering if that 3k is worth it for 4WD. Knowing that I'm going to put winter tires on, 4WD is just added bonus. On the other hand, Jgresch did mention that 2WD depreciates more quickly than 4WD.

I am pretty sure that the resell value on 2WD will depreciate a lot more than 4WD. Even Honda or Toyota they do not sell that many of 2WD, 2WD is actually special order in most case...How many people actually put snow tires on their SUV in Vancouver area? not so many. A lot of people are buying SUV just because they can save the hassle/money to purchase snow tires since Vancouver doesn't have that big of snow (yeah, other than 2 years ago).

If you are selling the vehicle later, buyer will low ball you since it's US import because everyone is thinking you saved 10-15g at beginning, why are you selling the same price to local vehicle :D

For 3g or even 4g saving, plus downgrade, like everyone said, just buy it here....

IMO as long as the saving is less than 10G....just buy it here.....All the hassle, time, inspection, warranty and resale value will break even especially on a brand new vehicle.

Just my 0.02 ;)

[tool001]

i got a tsx in the states, it was cheaper, and got navi etc, but imo if u are saving 3g-5g, is not worth it. warr. will be hassel to deal with. specially if ur buying new.



i have to go down to the states for warranty repair and recalls.

[flagella]

http://www.buysell.com/classifieds/Results/2009_Import_Cars/BC/2103/1/false/keyword/qu+cname+r+class+1_Pg+rw+pshcat/2009+s2000.html?CTAction=RefineByCategory&gok=2009+s2000

I finally found an 09. its $37,800. And if you say the 09s in the states go for $30,000~ Thats about 8 grand. Minus duty, minus inspection, minus any modifications needed, minus any warranty, minus any inspections failed (emission safety etc). You aren't looking at much difference... maybe 4 grand at the most? not really anywhere near the 15-20 grand you said earlier...

interesting, I suppose the price merging has come a long way.

[Jgresch]

I think it has as well. Probably when people strted to realize how much they could save down there, the savings were massive, however now try have evened out...
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