[FN-2199]

An American chef who was told by Gordon Ramsay on his Kitchen Nightmares television show that his restaurant would "swim down the ——- Hudson" has died after throwing himself into the river.

Joseph Cerniglia, a 39-year-old father of three, jumped from the George Washington Bridge into the Hudson which separates New York and New Jersey.

He appears to be the second chef to have committed suicide after appearing on one of Ramsay's programs, in which the British chef delivers robust and expletive-filled judgments on restaurants and cooks.

At the time the program was broadcast, Mr Cerniglia conceded that his Italian restaurant, Campania, in Fairlawn, New Jersey, had "big problems" and that he owed about $80,000 U.S. - a debt he described as "overwhelming". Throughout the program, Ramsay told him that Campania's food wasn't good enough, that the portions were too big and that its staff were immature.

Assessing Mr Cerniglia's cooking, Ramsay said: "You can't even grill a piece of ——- bruschetta." When the chef sighed, Ramsay said: "Are you getting upset now?" Mr Cerniglia said that he was "getting real upset", to which Ramsay replied: "Thank —- for that. Hopefully I'll get through to you now."

Later Mr Cerniglia told the program: "I'm financially in trouble. The debt of the restaurant alone is overwhelming. My personal debt - wife, kids, mortgage - that's a lot of debt."

Ramsay asked Mr Cerniglia: "Why did you become a chef-owner if you haven't a clue how to run a business? Your business is about to swim down the ——- Hudson."

Mr Cerniglia's mother, Pat, told the program: "I worry about Joe. I worry about his stress levels." His wife, Melissa, said the couple had "put everything on the line for a dream", adding: "If this business fails, we will lose everything."

The restaurant survived after Ramsay suggested changes to its menu and layout in the 2007 series. Customers said it had recently been doing well and was usually busy.

Ramsay said yesterday: "I was fortunate to spend time with Joe during the first season of Kitchen Nightmares. Joe was a brilliant chef and our thoughts go out to his family, friends and staff."

He declined to comment on whether Mr Cerniglia's participation in his program may have in any way contributed to his death.

In 2007 Rachel Brown, 41, shot herself in Dallas, Texas, a year after appearing in Hell's Kitchen, another Ramsay program, in which aspiring chefs compete for a job. She had been eliminated after becoming a favourite among American fans of the program. Before her death she said she had no regrets about appearing on it.

Ramsay has suffered financial difficulties. He disclosed earlier this year that he had been forced to pour pounds 5?million into his business at the end of 2008 to keep it afloat. Amid a sharp decline in profits he sacked staff, sold his Ferrari and gave up some of his most prestigious restaurants in cities including London, Prague and Cape Town.

Last night Danielle Cernigilia Wynn, one of the chef's sisters, said: "There are no hard feelings from our family to Gordon Ramsay, who is a wonderful man. His behaviour on the show was played up for the cameras."

She added: "My beloved brother will be so missed. He was a beautiful, compassionate person whose smile lit up the room."


Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/chef+from+Gordon+Ramsay+Kitchen+Nightmares+commits +suicide/3591393/story.html#ixzz10tYUPc9i

I know Gordon Ramsay's pretty anal and tough about cooking, but holy hell...

RIP.

[Culture_Vulture]

Hopefully this one will be enough to take that dick off the air.
His programs provide zero entertainment value whatsoever.

[BlacknJean]

hes an asshole but most of the time he was right when the cooks in hells kitchen made mistakes.

[b0unce. [?]]

Have thicker skin? I mean it's just criticism, and it sounds like he committed suicide cause he'll never pay off those debts.

[asian_speedster]

His other (British based) shows are way better.

[Kaolinite]

hells kitchen is fun to watch =D

[Ax2-Y]

if those people didnt want to get yelled at, they didnt have to sign up for the show. end of story.

[raygunpk]

so does the debt get handed over to the wife?

[jeffh]

people get yelled at by dgood chefs
ever eat in a fine dining restaraunt? you can bet the staff is underpaid, stressed to fuck, and are held to almost impossibly high standards. thats the name of the game
for every plate to come out perfect, the chefs need to be hard
ive had whole plates of food just trashed because the seasoning wasnt quite right, loaves of half risen bread tossed around because they werent rolled uniform

its a tough environment, cant handle the heat? get out of the kithcen

i sure did

[vafanculo]

I doubt his appearance on the show lead to his suicide. Usually ramseys appearance would drive more traffic to the location.

Also after seeing Ramsey on the tonight show, you can tell his antics are all for show. He puts on entertaining shows IMO.
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[asahai69]

couldnt handle the heat

[b0unce. [?]]

hey look its chef-boy-are-gay

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100815163854/simpsons/images/9/99/SpringfieldMafia.png

[MG1]

Swearing up and down, and going on a rampage gets old real quick.

The first time I watched his show I was like WTF? Then I watched a few more. Yawn...... same old shit episode after episode.

[Lomac]

I doubt his appearance on the show lead to his suicide. Usually ramseys appearance would drive more traffic to the location.

Also after seeing Ramsey on the tonight show, you can tell his antics are all for show. He puts on entertaining shows IMO.
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Yup. His British shows are far less "Americanized" and tend to actually focus on food, not vulgarity.

[LUUUUUUUU]

lol and there were rumours a few months back that he would replace Simon Cowell as a judge on American Idol... imagine all the suicides after the auditions

[Euro7r]

It was about time someone couldn't take it anymore.

[PiuYi]

highly doubt he committed suicide cuz of ramsay... its just a show for the cameras (altho he might actually be like that in his own restaurants off-air)


people get yelled at by dgood chefs
ever eat in a fine dining restaraunt? you can bet the staff is underpaid, stressed to fuck, and are held to almost impossibly high standards. thats the name of the game
for every plate to come out perfect, the chefs need to be hard
ive had whole plates of food just trashed because the seasoning wasnt quite right, loaves of half risen bread tossed around because they werent rolled uniform

its a tough environment, cant handle the heat? get out of the kithcen

i sure did

+1 worked inside a high-end restaurant dt n the chefs r paid peanuts, they work there so they can learn from the best n say they worked for this famous chef

plus the stress lvls in the kitchen are mad high on fri sat nights...

[jeffh]

^ exactly, when your comming up, its all about who you worked for

you work for shit pay, shittier hours and the biggest assholes, because often they can teach you the most

at the French Laundry in Napa Valley, you should up, start working for free, and if the chef feels like it, he might start paying you

this is one "reality" show that isnt blown way out of proportions imo. some chefs really are cocksuckers

[Nightwalker]

He had nothing to do with the suicides, just tabloids trolling. Ramsey helped the dude and the family has no animosity towards him.

It even says in the article:
Last night Danielle Cernigilia Wynn, one of the chef's sisters, said: "There are no hard feelings from our family to Gordon Ramsay, who is a wonderful man. His behaviour on the show was played up for the cameras."

I love Kitchen Nightmares, and he does a brilliant job of getting through to retarded business owners and staff.

[iEatClams]

if those people didnt want to get yelled at, they didnt have to sign up for the show. end of story.

some of us have asian parents. . . . . we get that shiet everyday growing up, and we have no choice as to sign up or not. . . .


however, it is a life lost, so RIP and condolences go out to his family.

[wstce92]

I had no idea Ramsay was in financial trouble considering Jalopnik just posted a pic of him in his new 458

[darkfroggy]

Mr Cerniglia's mother, Pat, told the program: "I worry about Joe. I worry about his stress levels." His wife, Melissa, said the couple had "put everything on the line for a dream", adding: "If this business fails, we will lose everything."

The restaurant survived after Ramsay suggested changes to its menu and layout in the 2007 series. Customers said it had recently been doing well and was usually busy.

Ramsay said yesterday: "I was fortunate to spend time with Joe during the first season of Kitchen Nightmares. Joe was a brilliant chef and our thoughts go out to his family, friends and staff."

Please read carefully. I doubt chef Ramsay had anything to do with it.

Anyway, typical trash reporting from the Vancouver Sun. They'll put "man dies after days after seeing [insert famous politician, celebrity, businessman, etc.]", and then we find out said person had absolutely nothing to do with it."

[Wongtouski]

Please read carefully. I doubt chef Ramsay had anything to do with it.

Anyway, typical trash reporting from the Vancouver Sun. They'll put "man dies after days after seeing [insert famous politician, celebrity, businessman, etc.]", and then we find out said person had absolutely nothing to do with it."

QFT

If anyone here has watched the show, you would know that it's basically Kitchen Makeover. Ramsay comes in and develops a new menu, updates the decor, and uses the show to promote the restaurant and drive up business. Yeah he yells and cusses, but if you actually listens to what he says its mostly all constructive, and he's doing what he can to help. A lot of owners in the show are stubborn as hell and is so blinded they don't see why the restaurant is failing, Ramsay simply tries to wake em up and force em to be realistic. But yeah, don't read the Sun much but this is pretty crap reporting.

[StylinRed]

So it sounds like from the Article that Ramsay saved this guys business and it was successful for 3 years after the show before this guy committed "suicide" (more like this being Jersey, he being Italian, owing a shit tonne of cash that the mob got him)

[hotjoint]

I love watching kitchen nightmares

[buddy]

get out of the kitchen if can't stand the heat ...

[jmvdesign]

people get yelled at by dgood chefs
ever eat in a fine dining restaraunt? you can bet the staff is underpaid, stressed to fuck, and are held to almost impossibly high standards. thats the name of the game
for every plate to come out perfect, the chefs need to be hard
ive had whole plates of food just trashed because the seasoning wasnt quite right, loaves of half risen bread tossed around because they werent rolled uniform

its a tough environment, cant handle the heat? get out of the kithcen

i sure did

I worked at Milestone's for 5 years (during high school) and got up to Lead Prep. They wanted me to go to school and become a sous chef but I declined because I knew what I was getting myself into. On the 5th year I quit. The best f'n decision I ever made and went to art school instead.

You work for shit wages, long hours, work with dumbass high school drop outs, and give up your weekends just because you're "passionate" about cooking? No thanks.

[Jsunu]

Fuck I hate name association reporting. It just brings in more rapid fire retard responses just based on the headline alone.

[taylor192]

He had nothing to do with the suicides, just tabloids trolling. Ramsey helped the dude and the family has no animosity towards him.

It even says in the article:
Last night Danielle Cernigilia Wynn, one of the chef's sisters, said: "There are no hard feelings from our family to Gordon Ramsay, who is a wonderful man. His behaviour on the show was played up for the cameras."

I love Kitchen Nightmares, and he does a brilliant job of getting through to retarded business owners and staff.

It seems most here are judging based on Hells Kitchen where Ramsey is a dick. This dude was from Kitchen Nightmares.

I find Ramsey to be over-the-top on Kitchen Nightmares, yet not a dick. He's be disgusted at the cleanliness, or the quality of the food, yet overall he doesn't yell at or belittle people on Kitchen Nightmares (unless the owner or chef is an idiot, then he does and it is deserved).

Kitchen Nightmares is one of my favourite shows too, I think Ramsey does an excellent job turning around the businesses. For the most part it stick too, the followup shows usually show much happier and less stressed owners and chefs.

[unit]

i like hells kitchen. i mean... all the cooks are complete idiots and its basically a fake cooking reality show, but its entertaining because of ramsay.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

the kitchen got too hot

[JSilver]

Yup. His British shows are far less "Americanized" and tend to actually focus on food, not vulgarity.

Exactly. Ramsey has Kitchen Nightmares in Britain and he's very mellow and more to the point of the food.

He bitches on Kitchen Nightmares in America because that's what Americans want to see.

His shows are awesome.

[Death2Theft]

It's not Ramsey it's the american editors that cut the show and take the focus away from the food.

[Great68]

I find Ramsey to be over-the-top on Kitchen Nightmares, yet not a dick. He's be disgusted at the cleanliness,




If I ever saw the unsanitary conditions some of those restaurants on Kitchen Nightmares have, I would flip out on the restaurant owners just like Ramsey.

[Nightwalker]

If I ever saw the unsanitary conditions some of those restaurants on Kitchen Nightmares have, I would flip out on the restaurant owners just like Ramsey.

No joke, some of them are serving things unfit for human consumption. The first thing he usually does is sit down and order their food too, then he goes in back and sees the shithole it came from and how old it actually was.

[smoothie.]

It sucks that even Ramsay got hit hard by the "recession".

[unit]

^why? hes still better off than anyone you know... and he has the celebrity power to make back millions easily.

[quasi]

The reason Ramsay might be more likely to have contact with guys who commit suicide is from working with businesses that are so far in the hole. Most of these people have everything invested in their business and when it's failing it's hard for anyone to cope with. Most people don't off themselves but some people can't handle the thought of restarting or failing.

[Ch28]

Most of Ramsay's American shows suck.

Want to watch a show with real cooking? Check out Top Chef

[Nightwalker]

I watch Kitchen Nightmares because it's one of the few shows on TV about running a business. I don't watch it for the cooking.

[taylor192]

The reason Ramsay might be more likely to have contact with guys who commit suicide is from working with businesses that are so far in the hole. Most of these people have everything invested in their business and when it's failing it's hard for anyone to cope with. Most people don't off themselves but some people can't handle the thought of restarting or failing.
A majority of restaurants fail too, often with the hard work and money of a family behind it. :( It is not an easy industry to establish yourself, thus why we're seeing more and more chains where investors and conglomerates take the risk rather than mom and pop.

[jmvdesign]

The restaurant industry can be a hit or miss. You just gotta have the right product, investors, and a little bit of marketing.

I didn't catch this show but saw it on the papers a couple of days ago. Nice to see a few locals getting somewhere:

Dragons' Den exposure lures investors to family-run waffle shop in Victoria

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Dragons+exposure+lures+investors+family+waffle+sho p+Victoria/3579276/story.html

[darkfroggy]

It's funny how we're taught in writing courses to make everything as relevant and specific as possible... then the newspapers do the exact opposite.

[darkfroggy]

I watch Kitchen Nightmares because it's one of the few shows on TV about running a business. I don't watch it for the cooking.

I don't like watching cooking shows because it gets me hungry and make me want to cry :(

[wobuffet]

imo pretty fucking stupid for the ppl to commit suicide cuz they're in debt. shows how much you care for your family.
at least try to make your death more natural so your family can inherit your life insurance $$

note: life insurance companies do not give you $$ if you commit suicide. only if you die by natural cause/accidents.

[AzNightmare]

I doubt these suicides have anything to do with Ramsey.
They asked for criticism, Ramsay laid out the hard facts.
Restaurant owner realized he's in deepshit and too much of a coward to do anything
about it, and quit his life, leaving his wife and kids behind.

Even the family doesn't blame Ramsay.

[Phil@rise]

If I ever saw the unsanitary conditions some of those restaurants on Kitchen Nightmares have, I would flip out on the restaurant owners just like Ramsey.

So would I. One has to remember he's eaten the food before checking out the sanitary/quality conditions of the kitchen.
I enjoy watching KN but cant stand HK. His attitude is off the charts on HK but its all for ratings

[Nightwalker]

So would I. One has to remember he's eaten the food before checking out the sanitary/quality conditions of the kitchen.
I enjoy watching KN but cant stand HK. His attitude is off the charts on HK but its all for ratings

I don't know if it's all for ratings. If they really get to be head chef in one of his establishments, and he has to test them to their capabilities under stress as well as culinary, interpersonal, and leadership skills in such a short time, he should be as hard as possible.

I actually don't think he's off the charts, and the people that apply have seen the show and know what they're getting into.

[unit]

I don't know if it's all for ratings. If they really get to be head chef in one of his establishments, and he has to test them to their capabilities under stress as well as culinary, interpersonal, and leadership skills in such a short time, he should be as hard as possible.

I actually don't think he's off the charts, and the people that apply have seen the show and know what they're getting into.

those failures have no chance running a high end kitchen like the ones they offer as prizes on the show.
the show is just for ratings, and none of those 'executive chefs' are still working for the restaurants that they won positions for on the show.
most of the restaurants arent his establishments at all. araxi has nothing to do with gordon ramsay, nor do most of the other restaurants.
the HK contestants are pretty much all just line cooks, not real cooks who create menus, etc...

[Nightwalker]

Whoops, I knew they weren't all his places! Still, that level of testing is fair imho, they do represent him in a way and the jobs are important ones with huge salaries to suit.

They won 1-year contracts though, and obviously have had massive career boosts through the show. Dave left Araxi after the Olympics.

[Psykopathik]

http://seangstmthefortressofsolitude.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/joseph-tinnelly-hells-kitchen.jpg?w=435&h=653

"I Ain't Nobody's Bitch!"

[quasi]

note: life insurance companies do not give you $$ if you commit suicide. only if you die by natural cause/accidents.

Mine does, I can shoot myself in the face tomorrow and my family will be paid in full. The only stipulation was I couldn't off myself in the first two years of the policy. I highly recommend manulife. :)

[RiceIntegraRS]

Mine does, I can shoot myself in the face tomorrow and my family will be paid in full. The only stipulation was I couldn't off myself in the first two years of the policy. I highly recommend manulife. :)

i dont believe u! now prove me wrong

[quasi]

i dont believe u! now prove me wrong

http://www.manulife.ca/Canada/ilc2.nsf/Public/glossary#suicide

Suicide clause is the life insurance policy wording, which specifies that the proceeds of the policy will not be paid if the insured takes his or her own life within a specified period of time (usually two years) after the policy is issued.

The wording is a bit more clear on this one. Like I said, after having a policy two years they'll pay even after a suicide.

http://www.manulife.com.hk/en/ind/Pages/indfaq.aspx

Will the insurance company pay the death benefit if the insured dies by suicide?

A life insurance policy usually has a suicide exclusion provision, which governs the payment of policy benefits if the insured dies as a result of suicide. The provision period, usually one or two years, counts from the policy effective date. If the suicide is committed beyond the provision period, the insurance company is required to pay the death benefit.

[obselete]

http://seangstmthefortressofsolitude.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/joseph-tinnelly-hells-kitchen.jpg?w=435&h=653

"I Ain't Nobody's Bitch!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUquhXdbbE

[SpuGen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e8qDvbsH5g

[fliptuner]

So after some examination on RS, I guess the moral of the story is:

GORDON RAMSEY CAN SEE THE FUTURE!!!

[ae101]

well my dad friend has met ramsey & knows him in a way cuz she a journalist in england & she said that ramsay is a very nice guy as long as u don't f**k with him in the kitchen cuz once u do that your screwed for sure