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too many of raping, beating, killing and suicide stories on RS lately, I'm brining some touching news. There is still love in this world
Ike Ditzenberger is a 17-year-old high school student with Down syndrome and a player on Snohomish Panthers football team in Seattle.
Ditzenberger made the news recently with what his teammates call "The Ike Special," an touchdown run designed especially for him.
The Vikings were up 350 with seconds to go, when the Panthers quarterback made the hand-off to Ditzenberger. The Vikings sluggishly allowed the Panthers' offensive line to shove them aside, as Ditzenberger sprinted 51 yards to the end zone.
The score now 35-6 as time expired, Ditzenberger performed a touchdown dance with his adoring teammates. Check below for the newly released video of the whole thing, including the tear-jerking screams of excitement from the crowd as soon as they realize what's happening.
So you'd go tackle him to ensure that your team gets a shutout victory?
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I don't want to seem cruel or anything, but giving him the touchdown seems worse than not giving one at all.
It's like you're acknowledging he has a problem, and then giving him a touchdown out of pity.
It's like how in sports competitions they give EVERYONE a medal regardless of whether you did good or not. It totally defeats the purpose of medals, and discourages anyone from even trying their best. "You might have scored 32 baskets, but you wouldn't have won without Billy's 2 baskets! So he deserves a reward just as much as you do."
I mean, yes, it's nice of people to do that. But deep down, you all just confirmed that the only way the kid would get a touchdown is if people basically gave it to him. And that just won't do.
What's the point of having him 'score' the touchdown when the other team basically gave it to him?
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Originally Posted by darkfroggy
I don't want to seem cruel or anything, but giving him the touchdown seems worse than not giving one at all.
It's like you're acknowledging he has a problem, and then giving him a touchdown out of pity.
It's like how in sports competitions they give EVERYONE a medal regardless of whether you did good or not. It totally defeats the purpose of medals, and discourages anyone from even trying their best. "You might have scored 32 baskets, but you wouldn't have won without Billy's 2 baskets! So he deserves a reward just as much as you do."
I mean, yes, it's nice of people to do that. But deep down, you all just confirmed that the only way the kid would get a touchdown is if people basically gave it to him. And that just won't do.
Yeah, I kinda agree with these two... If they don't want to be seen as "special" then they shouldn't get "special treatment". Slippery slope, really...
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You're only setting up the kid for disappointment later in life. It's really one of the worst things you could do.
To me, the most important thing is people learning that people with disabilities CAN contribute to the world instead of being moving pity-wagons. Knowledge, knowledge, and more knowledge of what people with special needs can and cannot do is important. What are you trying to prove when you give them free wins? It proves absolutely NOTHING except confirm them as being "lesser" human beings.
The world's an entirely different place when you turn 30 and there's no high-school squad to give you wins...
Last edited by darkfroggy; 09-30-2010 at 04:23 PM.
You're only setting up the kid for disappointment later in life. It's really one of the worst things you could do.
To me, the most important thing is people learning that people with disabilities CAN contribute to the world instead of being moving pity-wagons. Knowledge, knowledge, and more knowledge of what people with special needs can and cannot do is important. What are you trying to prove when you give them free wins? It proves absolutely NOTHING except confirm them as being "lesser" human beings.
The world's an entirely different place when you turn 30 and there's no high-school squad to give you wins...
The thing about it is this might be the greatest moment in his life. It has nothing to do with setting him up for disappointment it's being for 30 seconds all of his disability's went away and he felt like a normal person for once. The thing about down syndrome is they have a kind of a innocence and even tho you think you are setting them up for failure they will never realize that since there mind doesn't work that way.
You're only setting up the kid for disappointment later in life. It's really one of the worst things you could do.
To me, the most important thing is people learning that people with disabilities CAN contribute to the world instead of being moving pity-wagons. Knowledge, knowledge, and more knowledge of what people with special needs can and cannot do is important. What are you trying to prove when you give them free wins? It proves absolutely NOTHING except confirm them as being "lesser" human beings.
The world's an entirely different place when you turn 30 and there's no high-school squad to give you wins...
Setting him up for disappointment? How would you like it if you were disabled and were not able to play a game you love. If this was more than one play than yeah they shouldn't have given him that kind of pity. But since this was one play, in a game where they had nothing else to lose they gave the guy who probably wanted nothing more than one play a shot. He's probably had enough problems trying to cope with his disability and to be as normal as possible so let him do something most of us take as a given.
In the end, whether you think there is a moral conflict here or not, the point was everyone on that field had the good intention of letting that kid have his own special moment, and that's the lesson about the human heart we should be taking away.
Think about the age group they're in, it's not everyday you see teenagers so closely tied to our disabled as they should be. It makes instances like these ever so rare.
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In the end, whether you think there is a moral conflict here or not, the point was everyone on that field had the good intention of letting that kid have his own special moment, and that's the lesson about the human heart we should be taking away.
Think about the age group they're in, it's not everyday you see teenagers so closely tied to our disabled as they should be. It makes instances like these ever so rare.
This to, it also made everyone else on the field (both teams) and watching the game feel good.
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This has all the makings to be a real contentious issue but everyone needs to relax and chill. Its not like these kids are playing professional football for the NFL. Its one of those special moments in life that everyone's gotta respect and admire.
If it were my kid the last thing I would want is to put them in a full contact sport like football. The parents should be more careful because the special child is gonna be more susceptible to injury.
yea the kid probably wont even know it was set up his whole life. itll be one of his happiest moments in life.
Also it probably made every1 feel like a winner despite the score.
I don't want to seem cruel or anything, but giving him the touchdown seems worse than not giving one at all.
It's like you're acknowledging he has a problem, and then giving him a touchdown out of pity.
It's like how in sports competitions they give EVERYONE a medal regardless of whether you did good or not. It totally defeats the purpose of medals, and discourages anyone from even trying their best. "You might have scored 32 baskets, but you wouldn't have won without Billy's 2 baskets! So he deserves a reward just as much as you do."
I mean, yes, it's nice of people to do that. But deep down, you all just confirmed that the only way the kid would get a touchdown is if people basically gave it to him. And that just won't do.
Just the fact that he made the team shows that people have taken pity on him already... Guess when you're like that, your whole life is a pity party, and bullying nightmare?
Just the fact that he made the team shows that people have taken pity on him already... Guess when you're like that, your whole life is a pity party, and bullying nightmare?
Dude. You may think you're on the right. But if you were to tackle that down syndrome kid because you provide no quarters for anyone - it's like taking a seat from an elderly on the bus because you see no difference between the 2 of you.
Hell, if you were to tackle the down-syndrome kid like any other capable athlete, you would look more retarded than the "special needs" kid himself. (That's not an insult to you, just plain saying that's what it will look like.)
Dude. You may think you're on the right. But if you were to tackle that down syndrome kid because you provide no quarters for anyone - it's like taking a seat from an elderly on the bus because you see no difference between the 2 of you.
Hell, if you were to tackle the down-syndrome kid like any other capable athlete, you would look more retarded than the "special needs" kid himself. (That's not an insult to you, just plain saying that's what it will look like.)
LOL yes I know. I would not be the one to tackle the kid no worries!
I teared a bit watching this video. It was so heartwarming.
That kid puts his heart into his team and supports them with every ounce of his being. Just STUNS everyone with the 6, 3 pointers
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