Did you cut down on booze? [Archive] - REVscene Automotive Forum

vafanculo

10-02-2010, 11:47 PM

Didn't want to post this in other forums cause don't want it to turn into another debate about the law changes, but feel free to move.

Basically, with the stricter impaired driving law, have you cut down on ordering a drink or two with your meals out? Not talking about going out heavy drinking or parties, but more like your casual beer with steak, or sake with sushi.
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jeffwilliams17

10-02-2010, 11:54 PM

Yep. Was out for dinner with a few friends tonight. Normally I would have a beer or two with my meal and not worry about driving after.. But tonight I decided not to drink at all. I'm sure a lot of other ppl are making the same decision and it has to be costing pubs and restaurants hugh
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sas

10-03-2010, 11:06 PM

Ditto. The problem for me is, I don't understand what .05 means so I'd rather not put myself in that situation.

Jgresch

10-03-2010, 11:11 PM

I hear some restaraunts were down 40% in sales the last week...

hamsup

10-04-2010, 08:25 AM

I have cut back as well... during casual dinners i would have a beer or two.. but these days.. i would just have a sip or two from my wife's pint.. hahaa !!! rest of the time.. it's coke.. lol

v.Rossi

10-04-2010, 08:37 AM

I hear some restaraunts were down 40% in sales the last week...

haha read this on the province too, i predict it'll probably get worse and keep dropping. of course, upside is that there's less drunk drivers. which is great, but i still want my beloved beer. :(

6793026

10-04-2010, 09:06 AM

Richmond is really hammering on D&D, there were so many people who got caught.

I think people are now going to keep drinking down to just 2 beers. I think people will really limit to what they drink and usually won't go over 3 drinks.

Can someone confirm? it doesn't matter how late your last drink was. my friend say, oh, u just drank ur last sip 5 min ago, you're going to blow over.. it doesn't work that way.. does it... it's based on you body and blood absorbing the alcohol....

bbbj

10-04-2010, 09:22 AM

TRDood

10-04-2010, 12:11 PM

What was the limit before?

Do you guys say yes to the officer when they ask you whether you have drank?
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Roach

10-04-2010, 12:16 PM

Been carpooling a lot and sleeping over at friend's places.

Kev

v.Rossi

10-04-2010, 12:31 PM

What was the limit before?

Do you guys say yes to the officer when they ask you whether you have drank?
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0.08 was the previous limit, and no i don't.

Hot Karl

10-04-2010, 03:41 PM

The thing thats kept me from having those few light drinks isn't the change to the 0.05 but the fact that they are having more roadblocks. Well from what I've seen there seems to be more roadblocks since they've implemented this law. Almost every Friday since I have seen or heard that there have been roadblocks setup on the Arthur Liang coming back into Richmond.

everyone knows if you're gonna drive drunk, you never cross bridges. 10 minute ride max if you're hammered. only retards go for across city cruises. or the really drunk.

dui is a learned skill. gradually starting with a few buzzed drives, then you trust your skills and can drive home absolutely shittered. of course this helps if you have some inherent physical skill. a feeble person in life isn't going to become graceful with booze. balance and things of that nature. it also helps to know your route home. the more familiar the better. it helps to be a lush.

/satire...?

Great68

10-04-2010, 05:38 PM

Didn't really change anything for me. I live so close to downtown Victoria that I just walk everywhere. If I had to drive somewhere, I'd limit myself to one beer anyways.

murd0c

10-04-2010, 05:41 PM

No difference for me I just get the G/F to drive :D

Culture_Vulture

10-04-2010, 06:39 PM

No difference for me I just get the G/F to drive :D
all the more reason not to drink for me

rslater

10-04-2010, 06:56 PM

I would never tell a copy when I had a beer or two even if I know I would be under. Whats the point. If you ever say you've had a drink, their going to breathalize you. If you say you didnt, and you breathalize over, their is no difference between blowing over then and blowing over when the cop asked you and you said yes. Same penatly.

miss_crayon

10-04-2010, 07:19 PM

I don't want to run the risk of getting caught and getting a driving suspension (or whichever penalty I'd be given). So yes, it has definitely stopped me from ordering that extra cocktail during dinner/party. I'm not going to let alcohol ruin my record or get me in any kind of trouble.

gars

10-04-2010, 08:43 PM

0.08 was the previous limit, and no i don't.

The limit was always 0.05. 0.08 was just criminal limit. Under 0.08, you could still get a ticket for impaired driving and have a 24hr suspension.

and I always liked driving, because it gave me a good excuse not to drink. If I drank, I'd rather actually have a few, 1 beer doesn't really do it for me. I enjoy the taste, but can't justify the cost... that and I hate having to pee a lot.

aznrsx1979

10-04-2010, 09:31 PM

Whenever I had a drink before, I'd tell the cop what I had to drink and how long ago. I never had very much to drink (usually a shot and a beer) and I always drank a lot of water after. I'd also give it a few hours before hitting the road. But that was like 10 years ago.

I live downtown now and drink a lot more during dinner. Of course I just walk home now so it's not a big deal to me. I drink about the same now as I did before the new laws came into affect.

vafanculo

10-04-2010, 11:19 PM

Yeah, I don't drink now during dinner. Mind you, I'm not a big drinker, only drink at big events when there's time to plan ahead, but now I won't order that drink with dinner that I did once in a while in a blue moon before.
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fliptuner

10-05-2010, 10:18 AM

No difference for me I just get the G/F to drive :D

Bingo!

2-4 double L.I.'s and some kind of boozed up coffee after.

q0192837465

10-06-2010, 03:05 PM

It doesnt affect me at all cuz I never drink outside of my home or my frd's home. I could get as wasted as I want.

As for clubbing, what's the point of getting wasted there? 1 shot is more than enough to give u the confidence to mack on all the chicks in there. Anything more u'll not be able to feel the satisfaction of making out with a hot chick. U'll just feel drunk.

civic_rice

10-06-2010, 03:15 PM

i upped my drinking about 800% seeing as how ppl dont drink now its easier to catch a ride with a sober person. i always was the dd before, now im the drunk idiot

Hondaracer

10-08-2010, 02:25 PM

jackmeister

10-09-2010, 06:51 AM

this is why you either drink close to home, or at home, or befriend your neighbours.

or.... get a girlfriend that hates liquor!

but in all seriousness, i've been cabbing way too much now.

DavidYeh

10-10-2010, 12:56 PM

yep, whenever we go out, none of my friends would order more than one drink if they have to drive, some wont even have 1 over a 1h dinner. Last night I was at the wedding and Im pretty sure no one there was driving over the limit, most people cabbed or had reliable DD.
It definatly puts a damper on things such as 3 beers after work with ur buddies but its all for a good cause and I feel like the law is working in terms of keeping borderline drunk drivers (those who will have 3 -4 drinks after work at a bar or at dinner) off the road.

billboa

10-13-2010, 10:53 PM

the new laws r crazy. its just not worth it.

sonick

10-14-2010, 08:12 AM

Bars close at 2:30 and busses end before 1:30. How the fuck does that make sense...

The gov't should make tanslink fucking extend their hours if they are gonna have these crazy laws.

Personally I have been watching what I drink if I am driving. Usually just beer, with water between drinks, and no more than 1 drink per hour. If I am planning to drink a lot, we will take the bus or cab.

TheNewGirl

10-14-2010, 09:16 AM

sonick

10-14-2010, 09:20 AM

TheNewGirl

10-14-2010, 09:23 AM

This is a good idea, but my friends are all too cheap to do something like this :rofl:

LOL it actually doesn't end up costing anyone any more in the long run. Since there's about 5 of us who take turns so everyone takes their turn getting a free meal and everyone takes turns paying.

Tapioca

10-14-2010, 11:54 AM

on news 1130 they had a cop and a guy who was 5"9 260lb's drink and blow into the breathalizer

he drank 2 glasses of wine and blew a 0.045

i wont have anything more than 2 beers now ever and only with food, cant afford that shit

Well, wine is 14%-15%. 2 glasses (half bottle) is more than enough to get me pretty buzzed.

Bars close at 2:30 and busses end before 1:30. How the fuck does that make sense...

The gov't should make tanslink fucking extend their hours if they are gonna have these crazy laws.

Personally I have been watching what I drink if I am driving. Usually just beer, with water between drinks, and no more than 1 drink per hour. If I am planning to drink a lot, we will take the bus or cab.

There are night buses that run until about 4:30, but only on the major routes (fortunately, I'm on one of them.)

I have friends who are heavy drinkers and they just end up sleeping in their cars until they sober up. You're free to park downtown until about 8 AM anyway.

v.Rossi

10-14-2010, 11:59 AM

If only they made skytrains run until 5am Friday and Saturday. Please! That's all us alcoholics ask of you.
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v.Rossi

10-14-2010, 12:03 PM

We rotate DDs when we go out for dinner/concerts and anyone's drinking. Who ever is the designated driver gets their meal paid for by who ever is drinking. It seems to be a good solution and everyone gets home safe.

This sounds like an amazing fucking plan! Unfortunately, not all my buddies drive nor have a car. I'm pretty much turtle(entourage) in our group.
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Great68

10-14-2010, 01:14 PM

We rotate DDs when we go out for dinner/concerts and anyone's drinking. Who ever is the designated driver gets their meal paid for by who ever is drinking. It seems to be a good solution and everyone gets home safe.

That's great and all, except if one day you decide to go to Lumiere, and the next day you decide to go to Denny's

:p

Tapioca

10-14-2010, 02:14 PM

If only they made skytrains run until 5am Friday and Saturday. Please! That's all us alcoholics ask of you.
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I don't want to sound like Debbie Downer, but it's next to impossible to run Skytrain in the middle of the night because of the single track each way. There are a couple of diesel-powered cars that ride the rails in the middle of the night to perform maintenance and repairs. Also, I would hate to ride a train that isn't cleaned in the middle of the night the next day. The amount of trash and filth (sticky floors, booze, etc.) on the trains during the late runs is remarkable.

I always thought that the downtown yuppies who complained about the "B&T" (bridge and tunnel) crowd were simply prudes, but after taking the trains on Saturday nights for a couple of years, I can see where the sentiment comes from.

TheNewGirl

10-14-2010, 02:40 PM

That's great and all, except if one day you decide to go to Lumiere, and the next day you decide to go to Denny's

:p

LOL. Yes well, if you're going to Denny's and getting to shit faced to drive your ass home you have serious issues!

winson604

10-14-2010, 05:46 PM

I've definitely cut it down and way more paranoid to drink anything and drive. 0.05 is way too easy to blow over that it would be retarded to have 2 beers with your dinner, be no where close to even being buzzed yet get fined, car impounded, licence suspended for it. The fact that your limit depends on so many things like weight, what you drank, what you've been eating or if you were even eating at all, and many otehr factors makes it a no brainer for me to either not drink at all or drink and taxi, transit, or get somebody else to drive.

Tapioca - I understand the good intent of sleeping in your car to sober up but correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it still considered drining and driving if you're drunk and in your car for any reason? Silly I know but I'm pretty sure this is the case.

v.Rossi

10-14-2010, 06:12 PM

Tapioca

10-14-2010, 07:26 PM

^ I think it's only if your keys are in the ignition for it to be considered DUI? because you have the intent, you could argue that you were even sleeping how was i driving? but it would be your word against the cops with keys still in the ignition. I would play it safe and roll windows down, take keys out put it on the shifter and sleep in the back or passenger side. But enlighten me too

I couldn't find any information about how the law would be interpreted, but this seems like a pretty sensible way to interpret it.

I would never leave my keys in the ignition if I'm sleeping in the car anyway. A police officer is not going to wake you up anyway unless he has a reason to do so.

winson604

10-14-2010, 10:16 PM

^^
I'm going to have to sift through the Police Forum but I remember some other people saying that even if you have the keys on you it's considered a violation. In fact even if you were going to your trunk to get something while you are hammered it is a nono. Now once again I ain't no cop so don't know I just recall some RS people discussing it a while ago in the Police thread. I'll try digging through it tomorrow. Personally if it was true I think it's pretty BS. I can certainly understand if you have the keys in the ignition but to just have the keys on you period while going to or being in your vehicle seems pretty fucking wack to me.

Hondaracer

10-15-2010, 05:02 PM

if i a fucking cop tried to give me a DUI for sleeping in my car i'd spend my fucking life savings fighting that shit and get as much media as possible involved, that would be unacceptable.

vafanculo

10-15-2010, 05:52 PM

asahai69

10-16-2010, 04:45 AM

fuck drinking less. i drink more and get sumone else to drive

quasi

10-16-2010, 08:23 AM

^ I think it's only if your keys are in the ignition for it to be considered DUI? because you have the intent, you could argue that you were even sleeping how was i driving? but it would be your word against the cops with keys still in the ignition. I would play it safe and roll windows down, take keys out put it on the shifter and sleep in the back or passenger side. But enlighten me too

If your keys are anywhere in the car you can be charged with DUI, they don't need to be in the ignition or even on your person.

skholla

10-16-2010, 09:13 AM

Well, wine is 14%-15%. 2 glasses (half bottle) is more than enough to get me pretty buzzed.

Two properly served glasses of wine is not half a bottle. Doesn't matter what the alcohol content % is, one glass of wine is the same as one regular beer or one single high ball.
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skholla

10-16-2010, 09:17 AM

Unfortunately the cop can give you a DUI. Their defense is once they drive off whose to say you aren't going to drive off. Plus, with the keys on your body, you are technically in care and possession of a vehicle.

Just spewing some stuff I remember reading in that police forum thread.

Best to lock keys in trunk.
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That's BS. To win a case they need to prove intent. Having keys I'm my jacket pocket while I am laid out in the back seat is not intent. Just saying that I might drive when they leave is not enough. I might break into futureshop when no one is working, standing outside the store is not intent.
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vafanculo

10-16-2010, 09:25 AM

^ hey don't shoot the messenger, lol
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skholla

10-16-2010, 09:33 AM

I don't want to sound like Debbie Downer, but it's next to impossible to run Skytrain in the middle of the night because of the single track each way. There are a couple of diesel-powered cars that ride the rails in the middle of the night to perform maintenance and repairs. Also, I would hate to ride a train that isn't cleaned in the middle of the night the next day. The amount of trash and filth (sticky floors, booze, etc.) on the trains during the late runs is remarkable.

I always thought that the downtown yuppies who complained about the "B&T" (bridge and tunnel) crowd were simply prudes, but after taking the trains on Saturday nights for a couple of years, I can see where the sentiment comes from.

Yeah but that needs to change. Forget upgrading BC place let's bring our transit system in line with our growing population. More train lines going everywhere, more buses on the road like other major cities. With our drunk driving problem that spawned these new laws we should be able to justify a 24 hour skytrain service. It's true that the Tokyo Metro and London Tube close early 12-1am but they open around 5am, all that means is that you need to party all night. What time does the skytrain start anyways? If early it really needs to be door to door, this catch a train and then 3-4 connecting buses is BS!!! In New York the subway runs 24 hours but with modified late night routes. When I am in NY I walk the most and train a bit but after partying I just take a cab. Cabs are fast and cheap in NY, I can't say the same for here... Once I moved out of downtown taking cabs home costs me more than my booze at the bar. That's so wrong!!!

I like your comment about the B&T crowd, that's the primary reason why I don't hit the granville strip on fri and sat. For the longest time I would only go out from Sunday to Thursday. Much better times on those days, better and usually more local crowd too.
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suzuka84

10-18-2010, 08:42 PM

roadblocks are everywhere now. The cops are definitely enforcing the rule for the next little while so it's best to error on the side of caution.

tiger_handheld

10-18-2010, 09:33 PM

so lets say that you have 1 beer , and you get stopped at a roadblock. cop says "have you had anything to drink this evening" - if i say yes -- what will happen?

pulled over and breathalyzed?

vafanculo

10-18-2010, 10:09 PM

so lets say that you have 1 beer , and you get stopped at a roadblock. cop says "have you had anything to drink this evening" - if i say yes -- what will happen?

pulled over and breathalyzed?

Yeah, probably. Might get asked when last drink, etc..

What I want to know is what happens if you answe "no", and then blow over?
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sonick

10-19-2010, 09:49 AM

Even MORE interesting is what if you answer "No" but you blow above 0.00 but below 0.05?

hchang

10-19-2010, 10:17 AM

Even MORE interesting is what if you answer "No" but you blow above 0.00 but below 0.05?

Maybe you used mouthwash?

Does mouthwash actually show up on a breathalyzer? Or is that a myth.

sonick

10-19-2010, 10:26 AM

Maybe you used mouthwash?

Does mouthwash actually show up on a breathalyzer? Or is that a myth.

Well I mean if you did drink lightly earlier that night, but was several hours ago where it's mostly out of your system but there are still trace amounts left.

TheNewGirl

10-19-2010, 10:35 AM

so lets say that you have 1 beer , and you get stopped at a roadblock. cop says "have you had anything to drink this evening" - if i say yes -- what will happen?

pulled over and breathalyzed?

I was pulled over this weekend in a road block. The guy asked if I'd had a drink, I told him I'd had a glass of wine 3 hours prior (which was true) he checked my pupils with his little penlight and let me go.

I think generally they only pull you out of the car if you have symptoms of intoxication - you're flushed, your pupil reactivity is off, you smell like booze or what have you. I have yet to meet an officer at a road block who was unreasonable.

asahai69

10-19-2010, 12:05 PM

I was pulled over this weekend in a road block. The guy asked if I'd had a drink, I told him I'd had a glass of wine 3 hours prior (which was true) he checked my pupils with his little penlight and let me go.

I think generally they only pull you out of the car if you have symptoms of intoxication - you're flushed, your pupil reactivity is off, you smell like booze or what have you. I have yet to meet an officer at a road block who was unreasonable.

or maybe he didnt breathalyze you because you have tits and a vaj. i have yet to meet an officer that wasnt unreasonable