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Soundy
10-03-2010, 10:11 PM
I know I shouldn't, but I just can't help but chuckle at this idiot. Chalk up another one for Darwin!

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/people+dead+Nanaimo+motorcycle+crash/3617478/story.html
Inaii
10-03-2010, 10:16 PM
Does it still count if they've already reproduced?
Soundy
10-03-2010, 10:19 PM
Gets them an honorable mention, at least.
hk20000
10-03-2010, 10:21 PM
hahahhaha it's too complex for them to comprehend what's "a kink on the road"
subordinate
10-03-2010, 10:28 PM
This doesn't really count as road rage. The biker just wanted to give the kid a ''hey kid, learn to drive'' stare. The same stare one might give in the movies, to people behind them who are talking.
1exotic
10-03-2010, 10:35 PM
lol if you wanna call that road rage, I must be a road rage psycho compared to this guy.
MG1
10-03-2010, 11:32 PM
skull cap, ftl


oh yeah...... RIP
1BADMR2
10-04-2010, 06:10 AM
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Psykopathik
10-04-2010, 12:37 PM
skullcap = turban.

both = fail for safety
Preemo
10-04-2010, 03:27 PM
skullcap = turban.

both = fail for safety

:thumbsup:
Berzerker
10-04-2010, 03:30 PM
I can see them at the pearly gates now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp-pkqBYRxY

Berz out.
bloodmack
10-04-2010, 03:46 PM
its nice to see they aren't blaming the 17yr old kid. lol
AzNightmare
10-04-2010, 03:53 PM
lol... this is considered road rage?
Dragon-88
10-04-2010, 03:59 PM
I can see them at the pearly gates now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp-pkqBYRxY

Berz out.

LOL the car redlined but it didnt... Good ol F&F
FerrariEnzo
10-04-2010, 07:01 PM
Hopefully it was a loud ass annoying motorcycle that got destroyed.

all harelys are loud mofos... i hate them
Great68
10-04-2010, 07:08 PM
A DIRTY LOOK! OH NO! WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!

I'd hardly call that road rage.

Media sensationalism FTL.
c32
10-04-2010, 07:18 PM
how the hell is this road rage??? i dont get it..

well it is kinda the 17 year olds fault, if the 17 year old never done that they wouldnt be dead... dumbass teenages..
roastpuff
10-04-2010, 07:48 PM
how the hell is this road rage??? i dont get it..

well it is kinda the 17 year olds fault, if the 17 year old never done that they wouldnt be dead... dumbass teenages..

Are you telling me you've never signaled to change lanes, moved over a bit, shoulder-checked and go "OH SHIT" and swerve back? The 17-year old wasn't intending to run them over... lots of people make little slip-ups like that.

:bullshit::bullshit::bullshit::bullshit:
c32
10-04-2010, 07:50 PM
honestly i dont remember doing it, but probably did once when i was 17, but maybe not though... i always shoulder checked from day one... now i dont even bother shoulder checking when i know a car is not there cuz there is no point, just a way to break my neck..
Great68
10-04-2010, 08:00 PM
Are you telling me you've never signaled to change lanes, moved over a bit, shoulder-checked and go "OH SHIT" and swerve back? The 17-year old wasn't intending to run them over... lots of people make little slip-ups like that.

:bullshit::bullshit::bullshit::bullshit:

On the other hand how freaked out and/or pissed off do you think you'd be if you were on a motorcycle, and someone started crossing into your lane without looking?

Those motorcyclists could just as easily been smears on the side of the kid's truck. And I bet if that happened, it wouldn't have even made the news.
GabAlmighty
10-04-2010, 08:19 PM
Road rage? Wow... You're duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb
TekDragon
10-04-2010, 08:34 PM
honestly i dont remember doing it, but probably did once when i was 17, but maybe not though... i always shoulder checked from day one... now i dont even bother shoulder checking when i know a car is not there cuz there is no point, just a way to break my neck..

What kind of fucked up shoulder checking are you doing to "break your neck?"
roastpuff
10-04-2010, 08:44 PM
On the other hand how freaked out and/or pissed off do you think you'd be if you were on a motorcycle, and someone started crossing into your lane without looking?

Those motorcyclists could just as easily been smears on the side of the kid's truck. And I bet if that happened, it wouldn't have even made the news.

I would've been quite pissed and freaked out. I've had that happen to me (being nearly run into by stupid lane-changers) quite a lot, and I hate it, which is why I always drive defensively. Get out of someone's blind zone as quick as you can; either overtake or slow down so that you're not going to be a surprise for the other driver.

As a motorcyclist, you should be aware that you present a much smaller profile than another car, and you should ride even more defensively. Staring at the other driver to show your anger after the fact is also a stupid move to do.

This would not have been on the news, and we would not be having this argument, if the motorcyclist had not stared at the kid for "road rage" and paid attention to the road instead. I'm not saying the kid isn't at fault for the initial situation, just that the rider compounded it and made it worse by his actions, ultimately leading to his demise.

now i dont even bother shoulder checking when i know a car is not there cuz there is no point, just a way to break my neck..

You shoulder check BECAUSE you don't know if a car might be there. A car might have sneaked up on you while you were looking forward - unless you have eyes in the back of your head... And how are you shoulder checking so hard you break your neck?

Like this?

http://www.the-exorcist.co.uk/pictures/pics/exorcist.jpg
Soundy
10-04-2010, 09:03 PM
A DIRTY LOOK! OH NO! WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!

I'd hardly call that road rage.

Media sensationalism FTL.

The TV story had the biker "glaring" at the kid... which sounds a lot more likely to me, since just a "look" probably would have taken a couple seconds and he would have turned his attention back to the road in time to see the curve. If the idiot didn't see the curve coming up, he probably had his attention on the kid for quite awhile, and probably putting more attention into that than into the road... which I'd say qualifies as "road rage".
GabAlmighty
10-04-2010, 09:49 PM
What's the muscle difference between a stare and a glare? Coulda seemed like a glare if he was squintng, due to the wind hindting his face or if the the sun was in his eyes and he scrunched up his face.

This is seriously fucking stupid.
Great68
10-04-2010, 09:53 PM
The TV story had the biker "glaring" at the kid... which sounds a lot more likely to me, since just a "look" probably would have taken a couple seconds and he would have turned his attention back to the road in time to see the curve. If the idiot didn't see the curve coming up, he probably had his attention on the kid for quite awhile, and probably putting more attention into that than into the road... which I'd say qualifies as "road rage".

I'm not disputing that he biker was an idiot for paying more attention to "Glaring" at the kid than to the road... The fact that he went off the road is of course COMPLETELY his fault

But what bothers me is that the media spins the story to sound like the kid just made an "innocent mistake", and makes it sound like he didn't deserve to be glared at at all...

His mistake was not innocent at all, he is just lucky that he DIDN'T hit them.

Yes I have made the same mistake before, and when I got screamed and honked at by the other driver I realized I deserved that because my stupidity could have caused an accident but I was lucky that it didn't happen that way. I resolved to try to never make that same mistake again.
underscore
10-05-2010, 09:47 AM
But what bothers me is that the media spins the story to sound like the kid just made an "innocent mistake", and makes it sound like he didn't deserve to be glared at at all...

His mistake was not innocent at all, he is just lucky that he DIDN'T hit them.

I'd barely call that a mistake. He went to change lanes (possibly starting to move over) saw a motorcycle in his blind spot (where it shouldn't have been in the first place) and cancelled the lane change. Tell me why this isn't what you should do in this situation?
Great68
10-05-2010, 10:49 AM
I'd barely call that a mistake. He went to change lanes (possibly starting to move over) saw a motorcycle in his blind spot (where it shouldn't have been in the first place) and cancelled the lane change. Tell me why this isn't what you should do in this situation?

Different news source:

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101004/bc_motorcycle_clash_101004/20101004?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

"RCMP say that a series of interactions between the motorcycle and a pick-up truck driven by a 17-year-old boy may have led to the crash. Police say that the biker become "annoyed" when the truck made a move to change into the fast lane without noticing the motorcycle on its left.

The boy and his father, who was a passenger in the vehicle, told police that the truck swerved "slightly" to the left, but then moved back into the right-hand lane after seeing the bike.
"

Kid did move over.
How much he moved over, depends on how truthful the Kid's father was.
taylor192
10-05-2010, 11:04 AM
Different news source:

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101004/bc_motorcycle_clash_101004/20101004?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

"RCMP say that a series of interactions between the motorcycle and a pick-up truck driven by a 17-year-old boy may have led to the crash. Police say that the biker become "annoyed" when the truck made a move to change into the fast lane without noticing the motorcycle on its left.

The boy and his father, who was a passenger in the vehicle, told police that the truck swerved "slightly" to the left, but then moved back into the right-hand lane after seeing the bike.
"

Kid did move over.
How much he moved over, depends on how truthful the Kid's father was.
So what? I ride and it happens all the time. People don't see me on my motorcycle cause I'm smaller than a car. When it happens I usually get on my horn, they realize mid lane, stop the lane change, and return to their lane. I pull up beside them, give them the finger and the look of death, then continue on my way with a twist of the wrist and some obnoxious loud exhaust tones for their listening pleasure. :D

I'll bet the Harley rider did the same, twisting the throttle to give the truck driver a taste of how his obnoxious loud pipes save lives. Yet in doing so he went too fast into a corner he didn't see. Ironic? :blushsmile:

Is it road rage? Sure, yet nothing worth reporting on, which I think is the crux of your argument. Wow, the media inflated a story cause it was a slow news day. :drama:

If the truck had hit the biker it would be in the news too. Most motorcycle deaths make the news, especially those wearing inadequate protection.
Presto
10-05-2010, 11:15 AM
Kid did move over.
How much he moved over, depends on how truthful the Kid's father was.

Does it matter whether the kid moved over or not? Sure, it may have been the event that set the biker off, but it was still the biker's choice to do what he did. Unless he's a total noob, he's probably been cut off numerous times before. Going after every d-bag that cuts you off is going to be counterproductive.

In the past, I had a bike, and learned to stay as visible as possible, and ride defensively. I've cut off many bikers because I couldn't see them hiding in my blind spot. It'll be my bad if I hit them, but they would be significant contributors to the accident.
Nightwalker
10-05-2010, 01:05 PM
You shoulder check -before- you start moving over.

Not to say I've been perfect either.
Soundy
10-05-2010, 01:55 PM
I'd barely call that a mistake. He went to change lanes (possibly starting to move over) saw a motorcycle in his blind spot (where it shouldn't have been in the first place) and cancelled the lane change. Tell me why this isn't what you should do in this situation?

Seems to me this would be basic training for a biker: STAY OUT OF DRIVERS' BLIND SPOTS!