Hid Kit for fogs? [Archive] - REVscene Automotive Forum

shantz

10-06-2010, 06:55 PM

I use Phillips Hyperluxe kits exclusively for all my customers and I have never had a problem. They have a 1 year guerentee.

The most common complaints are from people with 'other' aftermarket HID systems that flicker or fail to ignite.

They are a bit more expensive, but well worth it imo.

recon

10-06-2010, 06:57 PM

optiblue

10-06-2010, 08:25 PM

What's your bulb type?

recon

10-06-2010, 09:23 PM

h11

jigga250

10-06-2010, 10:09 PM

http://www.unclebens.ca/ecms.aspx/about/uncleBen.jpg

CP.AR

10-06-2010, 11:13 PM

for the LOVE OF GOD

If you are going to install HID Fogs, please AIM THEM so they are SHOOTING LIGHT INTO THE GROUND

RCubed

10-06-2010, 11:17 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/3105458205_b91c6fc4f0_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3121/3105456937_2be8bb6007_b.jpg
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1660625&highlight=hid+fog+lights+fire

Just a thought.

jbsali

10-06-2010, 11:25 PM

PiuYi

10-06-2010, 11:45 PM

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1660625&highlight=hid+fog+lights+fire

Just a thought.

YOUR AVATAR.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1785&stc=1&d=1284182104

Mugen EvOlutioN

10-07-2010, 07:41 AM

HID fogs are way too much man, overkill IMO

with HID headlight plus HID fogs...people in front of you are gonna get $#@$*@$(*#@*$#@(*$(*$*#($#@ holly shit thats bright reaction

!Aznboi128

10-07-2010, 08:27 AM

Hid kit in fogs is a huge nono.

Fogs generally don't have a good reflector so light goes everywhere. If you want to add illumination I say get some fog projectors such as blazer, hella mini, or retrofit with is300. Altho still illegal, it won't blind on coming traffic.
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spoon.ek9

10-07-2010, 08:33 AM

yeah i'd have to agree it's overkill.

Mugen EvOlutioN

10-07-2010, 09:18 AM

just get some ricer bulbs and be done with it

headlight plus fogs hid attracts a lot of heat, since you can spot a blinding bright car miles away

underscore

10-07-2010, 09:35 AM

wouldn't HID's kind of...defeat the purpose of fog lights? To put out less light than the regular headlights so you can see *in fog*?

Phil@rise

10-07-2010, 10:01 AM

DrMike

10-07-2010, 10:33 AM

check out ddmtuning.com. Not sure how much shipping is to Canada but I bought some fogs for my Supra and they were only $29 + $11 shipping in the states. Lifetime warranty too.

nns

10-07-2010, 11:30 AM

I just installed some hi/lo hids in a newer ram and hid's in the factory driving lamps as well. the customer was very pleased with the results as he needed long range lighting for hunting trips.
HID's in fog lights are redundant are yours in fact fog lights tho?

What you mean to say is you helped some truck driver blind other drivers at night. I don't know how you can sit there and be so proud of yourself.
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illicitstylz

10-07-2010, 12:02 PM

I was actually considering this for winter/spring when the rain gets real bad.
I have blazer projector foglights installed and was considering the ddm tuning hids but after reading on hidplanet that it'll cause it to overheat unless the car is always in motion (have wind going over the foglight). It'll melt the fogs..
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wasabisashimi

10-07-2010, 12:12 PM

What you mean to say is you helped some truck driver blind other drivers at night. I don't know how you can sit there and be so proud of yourself.
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He said its for hunting, so i suppose driver only turns it on while in the bush to blind them deers

nns

10-07-2010, 04:11 PM

He said its for hunting, so i suppose driver only turns it on while in the bush to blind them deers

LOL. What's he going to do? Blind some deer and shoot them from the cabin of his truck?

I just installed some hi/lo hids in a newer ram and hid's in the factory driving lamps as well.
I don't know how you interpreted it, but the way I interpreted it, he pretty made the guy's headlights HIDs. Unless the redneck only intends on driving his truck while hunting, ranting about the south, and raving about how great Nascar is, he's probably going to be using his headlights and the truck as a daily driver.

Phil from Rise, I realize you work in a business that caters all around your clients. But I wouldn't go around flaunting the work you did, when the outcome would clearly and negatively affect other drivers on the road.

Phil@rise

10-07-2010, 06:02 PM

LOL. What's he going to do? Blind some deer and shoot them from the cabin of his truck?

I don't know how you interpreted it, but the way I interpreted it, he pretty made the guy's headlights HIDs. Unless the redneck only intends on driving his truck while hunting, ranting about the south, and raving about how great Nascar is, he's probably going to be using his headlights and the truck as a daily driver.

Phil from Rise, I realize you work in a business that caters all around your clients. But I wouldn't go around flaunting the work you did, when the outcome would clearly and negatively affect other drivers on the road.

Yes he uses his truck as a daily driver and I'll suggest to this tobacco chewin, gun sportin, elk killing, Nascar lovin redneck to follow you around hootin an hollerin and flashing his hi/lo hids and hid driving lights while tailgating you.

There, do I come off as arrogant as you now?

You assume I don't know what I'm doing. You assume I'm some know nothing salesman trying to sell another set of annoying HID's but truth be told I'm a professional technician first salesman second and as such I install things correctly, because I know how.
So no he's not blinding people nor deer. He's just a hunter that will venture 100's of KM's off the beaten path and for personal safety sakes needs to see far enough ahead for evasive maneuvering.

nns

10-07-2010, 06:36 PM

So explain to us, how do you put a set of HIDs into reflector housings designed for halogen lamps, and manage to a) not blind anybody, and b) have any usable light?

Unless you're talking retrofit.

wasabisashimi

10-07-2010, 08:30 PM

cigaretts kills, does that stop poeple from sell/buying it?,

/thread

Nicotine

10-07-2010, 08:48 PM

just get l.e.d. bulbs. bright but not blinding :thumbsup:

Death2Theft

10-07-2010, 09:07 PM

I have personally been hating on people that have put hids in cars that didnt come with them. However after hitting a few potholes in the and denting enough rims i've had it christmas lights here I come.

Phil@rise

10-08-2010, 09:57 AM

So explain to us, how do you put a set of HIDs into reflector housings designed for halogen lamps, and manage to a) not blind anybody, and b) have any usable light?

Unless you're talking retrofit.

Aiming and not selling someone stupid 8K plus bulbs.
Just last night on my way home I was followed by a car with HID's and yes they were blinding me guess what they were stock HID's. People need to get over this stigma of aftermarket HID's blinding oncoming traffic its not only aftermarket ones that do it. I find douchecanoes driving around everywhere with their hibeams on are more of a problem then HID's.

dachinesedude

10-08-2010, 10:23 AM

^ the truth, high beams are more annoying than HID's with in halogen reflectors, under 6000k is really not that bad
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Jgresch

10-08-2010, 11:12 AM

you guys realize that as you work up the light spectrum from 4300k, the light output is less... 4300k/5000k/6000k are brighter than 8/10 etc...

And @ philrise, even if you aim the bulb in the reflector basically straight at the ground, there will still be light that goes above where the cutoff line should be, into drivers eyes...

Highbeams are obviously worse, duh. But we are not talking about driver error, we are talking about using HIDs without the correct headlight type.

Phil@rise

10-08-2010, 01:26 PM

your right we're not talking about driver error

we're talking (or supposed to be) about OP wanting HID's for his fog lights

nns

10-08-2010, 01:58 PM

your right we're not talking about driver error

we're talking (or supposed to be) about OP wanting HID's for his fog lights

Hey, you're the one who came in here telling us how happy your client is with your PnP kit. If you're going to go aftermarket hid, get a retrofit. So you aim them downwards? Great, you sacrifice distance for "safety". Aim it downwards all you want. The only thing you create is the illusion of brightness.

Make no mistake. This is not an attack on your character. Just on your understanding of pnp kits.

jpark

10-08-2010, 02:29 PM

i personally find 3000k hid in fogs really nice..

Phil@rise

10-08-2010, 04:31 PM

Hey, you're the one who came in here telling us how happy your client is with your PnP kit. If you're going to go aftermarket hid, get a retrofit. So you aim them downwards? Great, you sacrifice distance for "safety". Aim it downwards all you want. The only thing you create is the illusion of brightness.

Make no mistake. This is not an attack on your character. Just on your understanding of pnp kits.

Yes aim them slightly more downwards
Aiming them slightly more downwards will negate a small percentage of the benefit they offer but they are still a vast improvement and offer higher visibility with less blinding effect of Halogen Hi Beams. Secondly when the Hi Beam function of his PnP HID's is activated the bulbs are less shrouded and that completely counteracts the effects of aiming the housings down slightly (win win for everybody unless he's a pissed redneck and decides to tailgate someone and flash his highs). More to the point his Driving lights which the OP is questioning remained aimed in a fashion as to allow long range lighting and are to be used on open (empty) roads where long range lighting is essential and safe.

jigga250

10-08-2010, 04:41 PM

Aiming and not selling someone stupid 8K plus bulbs.
Just last night on my way home I was followed by a car with HID's and yes they were blinding me guess what they were stock HID's. People need to get over this stigma of aftermarket HID's blinding oncoming traffic its not only aftermarket ones that do it. I find douchecanoes driving around everywhere with their hibeams on are more of a problem then HID's.

Why don't you post pics of the lights/output/cutoffs then? I find it hard to believe that you put HID's in halogen reflector housing with no glare, and I will trust factory engineered and tested units over some retrofit, regardless of the quality of your work. Factory HID's have a sharp cutoff that you just can't duplicate in halogen housings, and definitely not by "just aiming them slightly downwards".

Phil@rise

10-08-2010, 05:07 PM

Why don't you post pics of the lights/output/cutoffs then? I find it hard to believe that you put HID's in halogen reflector housing with no glare, and I will trust factory engineered and tested units over some retrofit, regardless of the quality of your work. Factory HID's have a sharp cutoff that you just can't duplicate in halogen housings, and definitely not by "just aiming them slightly downwards".

Next time I will but this time I'm not in the position to drive north of fort mac to prove a point.

marksport

10-08-2010, 10:58 PM

I have noticed that quite a few OEM HID do have glare. Strange as I figured the engineering standards would prevent that. I haven't noticed it on my car, but then it has multiple lenses to direct the light where it is more useful.

http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/q45-hid-gatling-gun-headlights.jpg

shenmecar

10-08-2010, 11:58 PM

OP really only got 1 reply. hahahaha

S1 S2

10-09-2010, 01:27 AM

Retrofit tsx projectors, /thread.
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illicitstylz

10-09-2010, 06:06 AM

just look up HIDPLANET forums, vast vast VAST amounts of information.

!SG

10-09-2010, 06:56 AM

honda civics and corolla/matrix's driving around with highbeams on are so damn annoying.

i find that the newer cars w/ hids these days are coming out with projectors that are really efficient, they really light up the road compared to my old tech hids on the gs. they still blind, just not as bad as cars with aftermarket hids w/ stupid blue hid bulbs. i find the blue tinge color more annoying than the glare.

Aiming and not selling someone stupid 8K plus bulbs.
Just last night on my way home I was followed by a car with HID's and yes they were blinding me guess what they were stock HID's. People need to get over this stigma of aftermarket HID's blinding oncoming traffic its not only aftermarket ones that do it. I find douchecanoes driving around everywhere with their hibeams on are more of a problem then HID's.

!SG

10-09-2010, 06:59 AM

a lot of gs guys do the retrofit of the q45 cannon projector mods. they look pretty nice, but i find the light output isnt as good as a single good projector. i got the chance to look at them, compared side to side to someone that did a ls430 projector retrofit.

I have noticed that quite a few OEM HID do have glare. Strange as I figured the engineering standards would prevent that. I haven't noticed it on my car, but then it has multiple lenses to direct the light where it is more useful.

http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/q45-hid-gatling-gun-headlights.jpg

Phil@rise

10-09-2010, 10:12 AM

Thats a damn cool lens. Theres lots of factory equipped HID's that offer a fair amount of glare. I don't think most of the HID haters get that and assume they are all poor quality PnP kits.
Bandwagons extend beyond........ GO CANUCKS!!!

shenmecar

10-09-2010, 10:16 AM

a lot of gs guys do the retrofit of the q45 cannon projector mods. they look pretty nice, but i find the light output isnt as good as a single good projector. i got the chance to look at them, compared side to side to someone that did a ls430 projector retrofit.

A bunch of IS guys also did Q45, LS430 and even the Bi-Xenon E-Class projector retrofit. Judging from pictures (since they're not local). I think the LS430 is the best.

crazyazn

10-09-2010, 10:38 AM

LS430 retro is boss...you light up the sidewalk on both sides lol

marksport

10-09-2010, 09:25 PM

The Q45 distributes light quite well thus nearly no glare at all. I noticed that many other projectors have more glare and seem to be brighter, might be to do with their size as there is only so much you can do with the lens and reflectors being smaller. Tho on the later 05/06 Q45, Infiniti added another lamp under the the projectors, an Active AFS lamp. The earlier models also had a driver adjustable projector height switch.