[dogeatcookie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DphtJJxDnBQ&feature=player_embedded

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

no comparison



besides the way hyundai marks up their cars is retarded, its NOT CHEAP. so for the money? who the fuck wonna buy that, did i mention its fugly?


PS just did a quick google

starting $$57g USD

pff for that money M45/E class/5 series/GS430 is a much better buy, you actually get your money worth buying those brands instead a $80g hyundai

[sonick]

Damn I want one of those ashtrays for myself. Even though I don't smoke!

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

you can always save it for cigar or weed
:thumbsup:

[DHPEM1]

They really suck, period!

[ws6ta]

brb selling bentley for shitty ass hyundai

[lowside67]

no comparison
starting $$57g USD

pff for that money M45/E class/5 series/GS430 is a much better buy, you actually get your money worth buying those brands instead a $80g hyundai
Err, they are not competing with a mid sized sedan, this is a full size to compete with an S class, 7 series, A8, etc. Those sedans are WAY more expensive and dont come with nearly the features that the Equus comes with. A basic 750Li starts at $120k and to get things like massaging rear seats, rear entertainment, etc will cost you $140k+...

I still wouldnt buy the Hyundai but if you are going to bash it, at least be accurate.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

smart choice, do it
:thumbsup:

you will save $60 + g on the side
:rofl::rofl::rofl:


no one is gonna buy that bullshit hyundai with a shitty resale value plus the lousy brand image.

$60g STARTING and thats in USD. Fully loaded i guarantee is going to be $13-16g more++++. And in canada it'd be more like $87g fully loaded plus taxes. So you pay nearly $100g for this bullshit lol

If you can afford $100g, why not spend an extra $10-20g and get a proper real luxury S500 with options


PS:

i know they arent, but you know what? it doesnt matter. BEcause for the money people rather sacrifice a little bit for the size and get a real luxury car.

LS starts $96g i believe, fully loaded max at $140g but that also depends on the engine size

regular LS460 semi fully loaded is around $110.


If no one wants to pay $80g for an RL, what kind of crack is hyundai smoking thinking they can mark up their shitty car with a $90g price tag

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

lets be rational here

today if you are a $80-90g baller to shop for a car.

Would you say gee im $20g short so im going to refuse a real ballers car and turn down S/7/A8 series and cheap out? fuck no, not in a million years.

Would you rather spend the money on a lousy brand and not get a
BBBB MMMMM WWWWWWWWWWW? the ultimate driving machine?
$80g you can get a 545/550 or E500


Hyundai improved a lot compare to 20 years ago, same with samsung. In the 90s no one gave a fuck about samsung products

but lets not get ahead of ourselves, who does hyundai think they are that they can all of a sudden compete with the big boys.
Stick with what they do best and sell $10-25g vehicles

[Vinny G]

That sure is a lot of guess work. From 60k US to 87k CAD to "nearly" 100k to just spend 10-20k on top of that 100k and get a Benz.

So we went from 60k USD to 120k CAD?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

LOL you obviously have no clue about car options buddy



a hyundai accent starts $10g

fully loaded is $20g

go look it up

a base 335i vs a fully loaded 335i is EASILY $10g difference


so what guess work are you talking about son
:rolleyes:

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

http://www.lexus.ca/lexus/experience/en/home/vehicles/ls/veh_group.jsp?series=ls


LS460 starts $83g, BUT just with that shell alone the tech package is $10g more, sport package is $12g on top. PLus rim option, block heater option etc
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:



so if USD base price for a shitty hyundai starts $57g.
canada will mark it up to at least $65-67g STARTING.

add 12-16g option easily on top of that. and you shall have a $80g pos hyundai plus taxes

[Vinny G]

Well I guess if you think people in the market for a $70,000 - $80,000 car are also in the market for a $120,000 car, then sure, your reasoning is totally fine. (Not that I would even consider this Hyundai over any 80k car)

I suppose guesswork wasn't what I should've used ... but more, it's a stretch between what you're suggesting someone buy and what they're actually considering (if one were considering the Equus).

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

just saying USUALLY people who are shopping for a $70-80g car they want luxury correct? if they want luxury they obviously care that they are spending their money on a correct item, something thats worth it. For $80g the hyundai sure offers a decent power plant, half decent interior with options for what it is. BUT this is the real world we are talking about. When you look at a E500, tell me how you can turn down that thing and buy a Hyundai. Your grandparents'd kill you, your neighbours would laugh at you when they hear you paid $90g after taxes for a hyundai, your boss will mock you for having no image, your parents would slit throw throat for throwing money down the drain.

simple

again if you are a $80g baller cash buyout or finance or lease doesnt matter

its not that much different shelling out an extra $20g, for example monthly payment for an $80g car is about $1200-1400 a month depending on your down payment, can you really not afford an extra $350-400 dollar for an $100,000g car? i think you can


and my point was $80g is not couple pennies here and there, its actually a lot of money investing on a car

Lets face it, human beings all care about their image. No one wonna look like a bum

[Roach]

Mugen, you sound like an old Chinese lady driving a C230 thinking she's baller.

Working in the industry, I can tell you that consumer beliefs about Hyundai have changed. Hyundai is starting to sell a lot of cars. And not just Accents. They are selling 30-50g Santa Fe's, Genesis sedans and coupes. For Hyundai, the Equus is the next step to advancing it's brand image. I don't think they intend to sell the Equus like hotcakes. It's a halo car that's meant to show what Hyundai is capable of.

And as for the neighbours and grandparents, who gives a fuck what they think? It's your money, do what YOU want with it. Why are you so obsessed with what people think of you?

Kev

[Lomac]

Who cares about status and what neighbors think? If the car suits you and your needs and meets your budget, that's all that matters.
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[crazyazn]

The Equus cost about as much as an M/550/E with some options...it really depends on what the consumer wants. Not everybody cares about "status"...and you don't really got any status just driving a Benz/BMW since they're everywhere...time to start saving for a Rapide. I know my parents would definitely go for the Equus because it's so much bigger and presumably more comfortable.

[Manic!]

add 12-16g option easily on top of that. and you shall have a $80g pos hyundai plus taxes

Please watch the video 5 or 6 more times.

[twitchyzero]

no one is gonna buy that bullshit hyundai with a shitty resale value plus the lousy brand image.

Aside from the LS, you are telling me the Benz, BMW, Audi, Bentley etc will have better resale value?

and i'm also pretty sure resale value wont be a deal breaker for those considering luxury cars

[PJ]

craaaazy..

[donjalapeno]

Exterior = Genesis > Equus
Interior = Equus > Genesis
Performance= Genesis > Equus
Money= Genesis > Equus
Resale= Genesis>Equus

Genesis= Profit.

[jpark]

I KNEW IT!! I FUKEN KNEW MUGEN EVOLUTION WAS GOING TO TERROIZE THIS THREAD as soon as i saw the thread title :rolleyes: :rofl:

on a serious note: the new equus was released in korea for almost a year now.. and currently its selling like a hot cake in the korean domestic market, but i was shocked to see that they were going to bring this out into north america..

[Hide625]

I stopped watching @ the point the guy had to manually bring out the tv screen. You'd think for a "luxury" car the tv screen would pop-up automatically w/ a push of a button, not manually fold it out...

[jstn86]

again if you are a $80g baller cash buyout or finance or lease doesnt matter

and my point was $80g is not couple pennies here and there, its actually a lot of money investing on a car

Lets face it, human beings all care about their image. No one wonna look like a bum

hahaha

did a korean person ever scam you?
did you ever get rejected by a korean girl?
did you ever buy a hyundai and it sucked a lot of dick?
do you not like kimchi noodles?

i don't understand why you absolutely HATE hyundai/kia so much...?

hyundai/kia has their own marketing department and they have their own consumer analysts. if they thought it was a good idea to bring the Equus to N.A, then who cares? if they fail, so be it.
it's not like you have stocks in hyundai and lose a lot of money right?

SO WHO THE FUCK CARES?

i don't know you personally to know what kind of financial situation you are in, but HEY, if you had $100K+ to spend on a car, we know you will NEVER buy a hyundai. enough korean car bashing already. jesus

[Qmx323]

Looks nice, some cool features

Won't sell well in NA though, how many Genesis sedans do you see in the lower mainland area? People here are just too concerned with 'brand image' and they won't settle for a Hyundai. Otherwise this looks like a pretty nice car

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

hahaha

did a korean person ever scam you?
did you ever get rejected by a korean girl?
did you ever buy a hyundai and it sucked a lot of dick?
do you not like kimchi noodles?

i don't understand why you absolutely HATE hyundai/kia so much...?

hyundai/kia has their own marketing department and they have their own consumer analysts. if they thought it was a good idea to bring the Equus to N.A, then who cares? if they fail, so be it.
it's not like you have stocks in hyundai and lose a lot of money right?

SO WHO THE FUCK CARES?

i don't know you personally to know what kind of financial situation you are in, but HEY, if you had $100K+ to spend on a car, we know you will NEVER buy a hyundai. enough korean car bashing already. jesus


wrong i was a huge fan of koreans 10 years ago

i had 3 korean gfs

i love korean food

i know a lot of korean people

i have a lot of korean products, tvs, cell phones etc in the past
:thumbsup:


Car product? i just think they are not worth the money they are asking for

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

I KNEW IT!! I FUKEN KNEW MUGEN EVOLUTION WAS GOING TO TERROIZE THIS THREAD as soon as i saw the thread title :rolleyes: :rofl:

on a serious note: the new equus was released in korea for almost a year now.. and currently its selling like a hot cake in the korean domestic market, but i was shocked to see that they were going to bring this out into north america..

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Alphamale]

on a serious note: the new equus was released in korea for almost a year now.. and currently its selling like a hot cake in the korean domestic market, but i was shocked to see that they were going to bring this out into north america..

Yeah...and the only cars available there ARE (pretty much) Korean cars.

That's kind of a flawed statement, fyi.

[geeknerd]

Yeah...and the only cars available there ARE (pretty much) Korean cars.

That's kind of a flawed statement, fyi.

not really... u can get a variety of cars there. ive even seen a few maybachs there but not here. lambos, ferraris also exist.
anyways ive been in one and its fuking awesome..

[kkttsang]

DELETE

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

get one than, fool



:rolleyes:

[Spooling]

koreans only drive korean cars

[jpark]

Yeah...and the only cars available there ARE (pretty much) Korean cars.

That's kind of a flawed statement, fyi.

clearly you havnt been to korea recently

[asian_XL]

not really... u can get a variety of cars there. ive even seen a few maybachs there but not here. lambos, ferraris also exist.
anyways ive been in one and its fuking awesome..

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

koreans only drive korean cars

u forgot white people

[jpark]

^ive seen so many chinese with gen coupes recently... so not really

[monkeywrench]

It isn't a bad thing that Hyundai is releasing this kind of car, it's just another step up to improve their image, and Hyundai has gone a long way from their terrible past.

It's funny how Mugen Evolution has taken all my fails for today, is he asking for a ban or something? All his posts are harsh bashes and a shitload of fails

[Lomac]

u forgot white people

Only because we could give a shit about "face" and status and what our neighbours think about us.

[Ikkaku]

clearly you havnt been to korea recently

lol .. he actually came back from korea like a month or two ago

[Alphamale]

clearly you havnt been to korea recently

Clearly, the market has only opened up relatively recently.

I swear to God 99% of cars on the road are Korean.

[jpark]

Clearly, the market has only opened up relatively recently.

I swear to God 99% of cars on the road are Korean.

its obvious that theres more korean cars in korea... thats like you saying theres alot of japanese cars in japan......

my point was stating that equus selling like hotcakes in korea, even if it is a korean car and 99% of korean streets are flooded with korean cars, the kdm equus market value is almost little less than double the price of usdm equus.. (more useless "cool" options) in fact they even offered equus "limo" longer wheel base versions and they still sold quite a bit with about $100,000+ price tags.. what im saying is since koreans drool over import brands (hell some even drool over pt cruisers..) i was surprised to see the equus sell alot.. instead of most of them thinking like Mugen Evolution and buy a 5series bmw or E class benz..
and if you go to seoul kangnam or any urban areas.. i say its about 40% import vehicles and 60% korean cars not including taxi's and work trucks etc..

[Mr.C]

You know, to be honest, if they rip out the Hyundai Badge and put anything else there, or just sell it as Centennial, they have a chance. The car looks well appointed. The price is a bargain. It just has that ugly-ass Hyundai logo in the back.

If they don't mention Hyundai on the car, they might have a chance. It looks good too.

Put it in perspective, what if this was a Mercedes, oh, P-class or something. Like a car in between the E and the S class. Everyone would praise it for being affordable luxury or some crap like that.

[satek]

Hyundai has really come a long way from what it was before....I am impressed.

[AVS_Racing]

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6127/assetuploadfile3403061c.jpg

:drool

[Berzerker]

I would own one... along with several cars in the Hyundai lineup. That car looks badass in that pic.

Berz out.

[1exotic]

Hyundai has really come a long way from what it was before....I am impressed.

they've come a long way by copying other car makes.

[deep87]

hyundai is one of the only car maker I respect right now (ford being the other because of the 5.0 and hot hatch focus).
They're taking risks and going into new territory.
The genesis is one of the only entry level rwd coupes available and now they have this luxury car.
I wonder why they didnt follow toyota/honda/nissan and create a luxury brand? That would fix the badge issue and get some good publicity.

[donjalapeno]

^ totally agree, theirs way too many pussy ass car companies out there.

[dogeatcookie]

^ totally agree, theirs way too many pussy ass car companies out there.

Like Honda and Toyota..... fucking hopeless

[donjalapeno]

toyota is the most pussy of them all.....too scared to make a new celica or supra OR even a two door corolla XRS too be competitive with the SI coupe :facepalm:

[deep87]

^honda would give toyota a run for their money in that department
its not enough that their new managment scrapped the s2000/nsx and also refuses to put the hsv into production but they insult us by calling the crz a crx reincarnation

the cars they were still making managed to get worse...dbl wishbone too mac strut on the integra/rsx ruined the car for me

[underscore]

After watching that, I'd honestly buy the Hyundai. Amongst all the other reasons, I honestly think it looks better (although Bentley has never been my style). For those concerned with the image of the brand, just de-badge it and tell people it's an Equus Ultimate, a luxury import.

toyota is the most pussy of them all.....too scared to make a new celica or supra OR even a two door corolla XRS too be competitive with the SI coupe :facepalm:

Well they run Lexus, who just built the LFA, one of the sickest things I've ever seen. Plus they're releasing that new 86 with Subaru. Nissans got the G37 and 370z, and even the new Altima looks pretty good. Sadly Honda's the only one dropping the ball (and I'd even love Ford if they'd release the "good" Focus and Fiesta here)

I stopped watching @ the point the guy had to manually bring out the tv screen. You'd think for a "luxury" car the tv screen would pop-up automatically w/ a push of a button, not manually fold it out...

I thought about that, and then realized most people will just grab the screen and move it round anyways, instead of using some kind of controls to manipulate it.

At least you don't have to manually attach your cupholders when you want to use them, wtf is up with that in the Bentley?

[twitchyzero]

they've come a long way by copying other car makes.

shame that you don't realize Toyota (you drive one too) became successful when they started copying other manufacturers. That's why Japan is a strong nation with great unity..they take the best from each culture/nation.

As long as companies aren't blatantly making carbon copies like some Chinese brands, it's fair game.

[The_AK]

as long as we dont see Ssangyong in Vancouver

[Lomac]

they've come a long way by copying other car makes.

You have seen the 70's to early 90's creations by Honda, Nissan, and Toyota, right? They did the exact same thing. Look at a 1G Celica and tell me it doesn't resemble something that should hold a big block V8 straight out of Detroit...

[geeknerd]

LS starts $96g i believe, fully loaded max at $140g but that also depends on the engine size

regular LS460 semi fully loaded is around $110.
urAnd in canada it'd be more like $87g fully loaded plus taxes. So you pay nearly $100g for this bullshit lol
ur comparing a 100k vs 140k? really?
*edit actually ur right, its very comparable, and i would get the comparable equus and save 40Gs

If no one wants to pay $80g for an RL, what kind of crack is hyundai smoking thinking they can mark up their shitty car with a $90g price tag.so from the two choices, u would rather by an RL than the Equus?

Would u rather get a BASE 5series or an Equus? because for u a 40G difference is considered the same level.

hyundai accent starts $10g

fully loaded is $20g

go look it up
I just looked it up.
a hyundai accent sedean starts at 11.8k and ends at 16.8k.

a base 335i vs a fully loaded 335i is EASILY $10g difference
Obviously u have no knowledge on prices. a fully loaded 335 vs a base 335 is not 10k differnece. LOL
For 5k differnece on a BMW, maybe u can get bluetooth, xm radio, and a garage opener... lol

dont make shit up -.-

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

YA OK DUDE


Accent was $9995 when they were on clearance as lots of you have seen on tv commercial always advertised for that price. Awhile ago accent started $10g, sport model max $20g

Now price gone up, i just looked it up. $13g while sedan maxes $19,000

how the fuck am i making shit up.

:rolleyes:


335i coupe starts $53g
navi is $2000 extra
BMW individual collection is $3900 extra

executive system is $3900 extra

active steering $1500 extra
6 speed auto with tiptronic is $1700 extra


geee lets see thats already $13,000 difference. :rolleyes:

NOw shut the fuck up and get your shit right before you call me bluffing bitch

[jpark]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

YA OK DUDE


Accent was $9995 when they were on clearance as lots of you have seen on tv commercial always advertised for that price. Awhile ago accent started $10g, sport model max $20g

Now price gone up, i just looked it up. $13g while sedan maxes $19,000

how the fuck am i making shit up.

:rolleyes:


335i coupe starts $53g
navi is $2000 extra
BMW individual collection is $3900 extra

executive system is $3900 extra

active steering $1500 extra
6 speed auto with tiptronic is $1700 extra


geee lets see thats already $13,000 difference. :rolleyes:

NOw shut the fuck up and get your shit right before you call me bluffing bitch


http://www.golivewire.com/forums/img.cgi?i=62859

[donjalapeno]

well not everyone can afford the LFA or the 86 that isnt even out yet. Im saying why cant they build two affordable coupes like a corrolla coupe and a camry coupe to compete with other cars, like you said the ball is in their court with honda not having decent sport cars anymore

[Alphamale]

its obvious that theres more korean cars in korea... thats like you saying theres alot of japanese cars in japan......

my point was stating that equus selling like hotcakes in korea, even if it is a korean car and 99% of korean streets are flooded with korean cars, the kdm equus market value is almost little less than double the price of usdm equus.. (more useless "cool" options) in fact they even offered equus "limo" longer wheel base versions and they still sold quite a bit with about $100,000+ price tags.. what im saying is since koreans drool over import brands (hell some even drool over pt cruisers..) i was surprised to see the equus sell alot.. instead of most of them thinking like Mugen Evolution and buy a 5series bmw or E class benz..
and if you go to seoul kangnam or any urban areas.. i say its about 40% import vehicles and 60% korean cars not including taxi's and work trucks etc..

I don't think basing a comparison on "kangnam" area is exactly a worthy statement. That's like going to British Properties and saying most cars there are European made.

?!?!?

Regardless, there's simple more at hand to why the Equus sells like hot cakes besides from it's price/feature set. I saw a metric-shit tonne of them when I was there.

[LiquidTurbo]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

YA OK DUDE


Accent was $9995 when they were on clearance as lots of you have seen on tv commercial always advertised for that price. Awhile ago accent started $10g, sport model max $20g

Now price gone up, i just looked it up. $13g while sedan maxes $19,000

how the fuck am i making shit up.

:rolleyes:


335i coupe starts $53g
navi is $2000 extra
BMW individual collection is $3900 extra

executive system is $3900 extra

active steering $1500 extra
6 speed auto with tiptronic is $1700 extra


geee lets see thats already $13,000 difference. :rolleyes:

NOw shut the fuck up and get your shit right before you call me bluffing bitch


http://www.freespirit.com/files/IMAGE/COVER/LARGE/Calm-DownTime.jpg

It's just Hyundai bro.

[illicitstylz]

hyundai is one of the only car maker I respect right now (ford being the other because of the 5.0 and hot hatch focus).
They're taking risks and going into new territory.
The genesis is one of the only entry level rwd coupes available and now they have this luxury car.
I wonder why they didnt follow toyota/honda/nissan and create a luxury brand? That would fix the badge issue and get some good publicity.

Oh they're taking risks and going into new territory.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/2012-hond-civic-t627191.html

Just doesn't seem like a step in the right direction. At all.

[Marco911]

All of you morons miss the point behind the Hyundai. The target market is not consumers but businesses. They will be used as fleet vehicles to shuttle customers/executives around. You don't want to be pulling up in a large MB/BMW/Audi to pick up a customer because then they'll think your company has lots of excess $$ to buy luxury cars rather than give them the best prices. Company owner will have the bentley tucked away as his weekend car that the customer doesn't know about. It's part of the grand charade in business. ;)

[El Dumbasso]

Would you rather spend the money on a lousy brand and not get a
BBBB MMMMM WWWWWWWWWWW? the ultimate driving machine?
$80g you can get a 545/550 or E500

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/dumbass/brandwhore.jpg

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Tell that to 99 percent of ppl in richmond and downtown

I hope the only clothes and shoes you purchase from are either wal mart or superstore
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[donjalapeno]

^^ and pay mad dough for gas and maitanence and insurance

[El Dumbasso]

Tell that to 99 percent of ppl in richmond and downtown
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/dumbass/richmondbrandwhore.jpg
Edited for Richmond.

[Szeto]

go ultima :)