[ericthehalfbee]

Oliver Drage, a 19 year old teen was put in jail in the UK for 4 months for refusing to give police the password to his computer. He used a 50char password that police haven't been able to crack, despite his original arrest on suspicion of child sexual exploitation back in May 2009.

In the US there have been two cases where someone refused to give up their password, and in both cases the courts sided with the person refusing to give their password. In one case in the US, the police had access to a computer (since it was running), but when they turned it off and re-booted they were locked out. This is one of the cases where the owner did not have to give police their password.

So what do people think? Do this guys personal freedoms trump the police (who obvously have other evidence to bring Oliver Drage in as part of a much larger investigation)? Do you think of this guy as a pedophile for choosing 4 months jail time instead of letting police see what he has?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831

[Berzerker]

The password is....

HaiGuysI'mPedobearWouldyoulikesomecandylittlegirl?

Berz out.

[LiquidTurbo]

^ GENIUS

Really quite simple. Just let him go, return his computer, installed with a keylogger. Bust him when he logs on. :D

[ForbiddenX]

^I doubt it'd be that easy to keylog someone with a 50 char password :P. If he's set free he'll probably just reformat everything and he'll have nothing to hide anymore.

[JHatta]

If you have nothing to hide, why go to jail for it?

[LiquidTurbo]

I don't know much about password encryption, but are there really encryption methods that are 100% unhackable?

[Berzerker]

You don't really Hack passwords you just try all combination's of keys until you find it. Having a 50char password would take years of a computer trying ever single combo.

I'm chuckling at the though of people counting to see if I used 50char's on my password ;)

Berz out.

[Hondaracer]

your telling me that there's no one/program they could use to crack it?

[flagella]

He's saying the process of hacking a password is about trying various combinations using computers. With 4 digits, it can be quickly done but at 50, it'll take forever even using the fastest computer.

[cool moe D]

I always thought that hackers used their programming skills to hack into things

[Solo_D33A]

Can't they just take the hard drive and access it via another comp as a separate drive and copy everything?

[Hondaracer]

He's saying the process of hacking a password is about trying various combinations using computers. With 4 digits, it can be quickly done but at 50, it'll take forever even using the fastest computer.

yes, i know, but im saying there is no way AROUND this password?

[smoothie.]

Can't they just take the hard drive and access it via another comp as a separate drive and copy everything?

the drive contents themselves could be encrypted

[ForbiddenX]

Theres 47*2(All the characters on the keyboard *2 because you can shift) different choices per character of the password.

So that means theres (47*2)^50 different possible combinations, good luck with that.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(47*2)^50

[Leopold Stotch]

This fucker's obviously hiding something

i wouldn't go to jail for 4 months as a statement of my fucking personal rights.

[DemonsBlood]

TIME FOR SOME INCEPTION

[LiquidTurbo]

TIME FOR SOME INCEPTION

LMAO.

[AzNightmare]

This fucker's obviously hiding something

i wouldn't go to jail for 4 months as a statement of my fucking personal rights.

I would think so too.
But then again, I'll be surprised at the number of dumbasses that would rather get detained for
legal rights on car searches when they have nothing to hide anyway. Then cry about it on RS. lol

[!LittleDragon]

^ GENIUS

Really quite simple. Just let him go, return his computer, installed with a keylogger. Bust him when he logs on. :D

how do you install a keylogger if you can't get into the computer?

[Culverin]

how do you install a keylogger if you can't get into the computer?

Hardware keylogger.

[Anjew]

TIME FOR SOME INCEPTION

loooooool

[!LittleDragon]

Hardware keylogger.

He's smart enough to use a 50 character password and you think he won't notice something like that attached to his PC? I dunno if you've seen a hardware logger, they're not little hidden devices.

[soujiro]

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://aralimas.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/digital-fortress.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ebookee.com/Dan-Brown-Digital-Fortress_670645.html&usg=__yLgSp8JAAO3UJ5TnP5m47umu8HQ=&h=608&w=400&sz=65&hl=en&start=0&sig2=HFEfw445Jvb_cP9LszlwWw&zoom=1&tbnid=ljjS8z-kGDRiWM:&tbnh=175&tbnw=114&ei=yDe0TNH1N4--sAOArbWJCA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddigital%2Bfortress%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den %26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1C1RNCN_enCA330CA33 4%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D685%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=621&oei=yDe0TNH1N4--sAOArbWJCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0&tx=62&ty=104

[StylinRed]

This fucker's obviously hiding something

i wouldn't go to jail for 4 months as a statement of my fucking personal rights.

really? you can believe someone would blow themselves up because they believe in something but can't see someone take a 4 month break for something they believe in? (and it won't even be a full 4 months most likely)

[MWR34]

why not remove the HDD, run it as a slave in another computer, and then EnCase it...

[TheNewGirl]

why not remove the HDD, run it as a slave in another computer, and then EnCase it...

At one of my jobs dealing with medical research records we had a 15 character password to log into the comp + individual passwords to access individual files that way to protect the integrity of the research and patient's private info. To get the info off the server to see everything you would probably have needed at least 100 passwords.

If the guy was was using a 50 character password, I imagine he had multiple layers to it as well. Meaning, even if the cops cracked the first one (which would take a super comp years), they could find themselves just faced with more to actually get further.

[penner2k]

let him go this time but keep an eye on him...
They can bug a phone... I wonder if they can actually bug his internet? Unless he is encrypting everything that comes and goes from his computer too..

[gars]

man, i'm bitching enough, because we decided at work to create some random passwords using letters, numbers AND characters. stupid ones like $^`aB3, etc.... and even at 8 characters long, i'm still annoyed....

can you imagine if this guy just had "a" x50. I guess it would be just as secure as a completely random password, as long as he doesn't tell anybody.