[penner2k]

So I was at the gym earlier and I couldnt believe what I was seeing..
There was this personal trainer there training this guy that couldnt have been more then 120 lbs. I see them on the leg press machine... 2 plates per side with a 4 inch range of motion. The guy gets out like 5 reps so the trainer leans over and starts pushing on the platform to help him get out another 5 reps. This happens like 3 times (gotta do 3 sets of 10 right?).. He tells him good job and they move on. I didnt pay much attention but a little while later I see them out by the rack and the PT is teaching the guy how to shoulder press with the bb... This guy looks weak as fuck so I decide to watch to see what happens. Sure enough the guy is almost folding himself in half trying to get the bar up. The PT just sits there and watches. After he does one set the PT throws 10 lbs on either side. The guy he is training looks like he is worried he wont be able to do it so the PT tells him its all about intensity so this guy starts punching himself in the chest like a freaking ape. Obviously the PT isnt smart enough to rack the weight at chest height and has the guy lifting the weight off the ground. It took the guy like a minute to get the weight up (and eventually the PT had to help him)... Again he is almost folding himself in half to get the weight up but he only gets one rep out.

I was just about to yell at this guy but decided it really isnt any of my business and the guy he was training looked just as retarded as him so maybe it wouldnt be a bad thing for them to train together.. lol
I've seen some bad trainers but it usually just ends up being them doing stupid stuff that just makes no sense. This just seemed down right dangerous what he was doing.

[BrRsn]

What about personal trainers that are in shit shape? There's a guy @ my gym whose got a belly and bitch tits and he walks around in his tight shirt. Why would anyone want training from him. He's not big either, he's got a really small build and he's skinny everywhere except for manboobs + belly. You'd think a personal trainer would atleast put some effort into their appearance, or atleast wear a looser shirt?

[JSilver]

Fitness World has some horrible trainers as well. I just feel so bad for the people paying these PTs assuming that they're teaching everything to them correctly.

[DC5-S]

yes fitness world does have horrible trainers lol i see it everday but I keep my mouth shut.. for instance doing 20 rep squats with half range motion.. like 45 deg.. its sad

[SizzleChest]

What about personal trainers that are in shit shape? There's a guy @ my gym whose got a belly and bitch tits and he walks around in his tight shirt. Why would anyone want training from him. He's not big either, he's got a really small build and he's skinny everywhere except for manboobs + belly. You'd think a personal trainer would atleast put some effort into their appearance, or atleast wear a looser shirt?

doesn't mean he doesn't know how to train, but ya, it's hard to sell a corvette when you drive a chevette

yes fitness world does have horrible trainers lol i see it everday but I keep my mouth shut.. for instance doing 20 rep squats with half range motion.. like 45 deg.. its sad

rule number 1 for personal trainers (especially when training a new gym goer) is safety - deep squats are great for the muscles, but can be too much for some people's knees to take.

[BrRsn]

doesn't mean he doesn't know how to train, but ya, it's hard to sell a corvette when you drive a chevette



rule number 1 for personal trainers (especially when training a new gym goer) is safety - deep squats are great for the muscles, but can be too much for some people's knees to take.

I've never seen him actually with a client, ever. He just walks around. He works @ fitness world as well.

Fitness world does have a lot of great trainers from what i've personally experienced and dealt with, just this one guy bugs me haha

[hal0g0dv2]

wait this is not normal, i thought personal trainers are all like this jk
what a bunch of fucking idiots

[RRxtar]

ive thought about getting certified as a PT then when im at the gym and i watch the gym trainers teaching some poor runt how to do things wrong, id walk over after their 'session' and offer him some help with "i used to look like you. do you want to look like me?"

it seems theres no lack of trainers to teach fat people to lose weight, but no one seems to care about the skinny guy trying to put weight on. all trainers seem programmed into 3x20 sets and alot of peripheral exercises. i guarantee if you give a skinny kid 2 weeks to get aclimated to the gym, and then ease him into lifting heavy, and once his body learns the motions, get him using low rep power on the big exercises, and EATING, hed be throwing money at you.

[SkinnyPupp]

Pretty much all trainers are like that at the commercial gyms

[RayBot]

My personal trainers are youtube and revscene.

Treated me well for the last two years.

[1-Slicer-1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k6w1yP5-XY&feature=channel

[Meowjin]

I don't know if justin still posts here, but he's not in the greatest shape due to an injury but he is an awesome trainer and really know his shit.

[SizzleChest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k6w1yP5-XY&feature=channel

zuzana! :drool

[Spidey]

there are a lot of trainers that are pretty bad.. some are just plain idiots.. mind you it doesnt take a genius to get a certification.. especially with canfit pro and ACE.. secondly, some trainers just endup not giving a shit about it anymore.. i admit, there are days where i don't feel like giving a shit and i don't feel like scrutinizing every aspect of my clients' form.

i was at at the bcrpa's fitness convention early this month, and i was surprised at the lack of higher level education during the lectures... and the stupidass questions that were being asked by so called fitness professions.. yes i realize that not everyone has a degree in kinesiology and everyone starts SOMEwhere.. but holy cow.. i would not want to be any of these trainers "First" clients..

Fitness world has extremes... they have either super lazy ass looking trainers, or the ones that are soooo self absorbed they check themselves out more than they check on their clients' form. i love it when the trainers make their clients do the exact workout they would do..

lastly, some of the best trainers i know arent super fit... not every skinny kid wants to get super buff.. you would be surprised at the percentage of my clients (overweight or skinny) who just want to increase tone and feel better/improve general conditioning. usually thekids that wanna get meathead big, dont go to trainers and read musclemag and think that they can transform their body to look like roided guidos overnight.. of course there are exceptions, but since we are all generalizing here ...

[AzNightmare]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbGYdhdDijo

This was just asking to get posted.

[1-Slicer-1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbGYdhdDijo

This was just asking to get posted.

Wow, that was a big fucking waste of time. What a bunch of try-hards....horribly acted out and not even remotely funny...

[Redlines_Daily]

+1 to Fitness World PT's. The majority of these guys are horrible..I see this one guy training a client, he's checking his cell phone and looking at himself in the mirror when he should be watching his clients form.

Thing that really irks me is when I see a female PT in horrible shape training a man on how to gain size. Majority of these women have never trained for size, nor do they understand what works and what doesnt. Even if they are a gym junkie, most stick with cardio and "trimming" type of workouts...so female PT's, please stick with what you know and leave the BBing to men! (unless you are female BB, then all the power to you!)

[hal0g0dv2]

+1 to Fitness World PT's. The majority of these guys are horrible..I see this one guy training a client, he's checking his cell phone and looking at himself in the mirror when he should be watching his clients form.

Thing that really irks me is when I see a female PT in horrible shape training a man on how to gain size. Majority of these women have never trained for size, nor do they understand what works and what doesnt. Even if they are a gym junkie, most stick with cardio and "trimming" type of workouts...so female PT's, please stick with what you know and leave the BBing to men! (unless you are female BB, then all the power to you!)

o yeah 100% women know nothing about lifting weights

[Wykydtron]

^^
Lifting weights and body building are not the same thing. Body building involves lifting weights, but the sciene behind it is different ie eating, what exercises, reps etc etc etc.

[FN-2199]

"IT'S ALL ABOUT INTENSITY!" *chest pound*
:troll:

What a fucking ape.
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[Spidey]

+1 to Fitness World PT's. The majority of these guys are horrible..I see this one guy training a client, he's checking his cell phone and looking at himself in the mirror when he should be watching his clients form.

Thing that really irks me is when I see a female PT in horrible shape training a man on how to gain size. Majority of these women have never trained for size, nor do they understand what works and what doesnt. Even if they are a gym junkie, most stick with cardio and "trimming" type of workouts...so female PT's, please stick with what you know and leave the BBing to men! (unless you are female BB, then all the power to you!)

so are you saying a doctor who has never had cancer should not treat or educate people about cancer? each person is different. having an overweight female trainer training someone for size is no worse or better than a meathead who is mesomorphic by genetics telling his client who is an ectomorph, he will achieve results the same as him.

it is about experience and what you have seen and achieved with clients, friends, etc that will give you the knowledge to be a good trainer. just because you are a trainer who is super fit, doesn't make you any better than the next trainer who is 60 and slightly over weight. experience matters, but if you are judging a trainer by what kind of training they do or don't do, then you would only see female trainers with female clients the same size age and body type, and males which as the same size, age, and body type.

i rather have a female trainer that has experience training a different types of people, then a narrow minded, jersey shore douche.

[hal0g0dv2]

^^
Lifting weights and body building are not the same thing. Body building involves lifting weights, but the sciene behind it is different ie eating, what exercises, reps etc etc etc.


thanks gotta remember that

[hal0g0dv2]

why would anyone get a personal trainer to start with
/thread

[RRxtar]

so personal trainers can make money duh

[Lolkai]

hmmm so would you guys trust a person with a good ripped body to be your PT or a person with great knowledge but not a great body?

[Spidey]

why would anyone get a personal trainer to start with
/thread

because not everyone believes bodybuilding.com is the golden standard for being fit, spending every second paycheck on supplements, and 3 hours a workout is efficient, and lastly, getting advice from teenage revsceners.

[hal0g0dv2]

so personal trainers can make money duh
join my cod party bitch

[hal0g0dv2]

because not everyone believes bodybuilding.com is the golden standard for being fit, spending every second paycheck on supplements, and 3 hours a workout is efficient, and lastly, getting advice from teenage revsceners.

who works out for 3 hours lol, i started from scratch new nothing about lifting weights, went to the gym ask some friends and ask the " big dudes" the ones that actually know how to lift for advice, half the time personal trainers will not teach dead lifts or squats because it to much of a liability.

I just think its a joke that these personal trainers are getting paid to teach bull shit about lifting

[Spidey]

who works out for 3 hours lol, i started from scratch new nothing about lifting weights, went to the gym ask some friends and ask the " big dudes" the ones that actually know how to lift for advice, half the time personal trainers will not teach dead lifts or squats because it to much of a liability.

I just think its a joke that these personal trainers are getting paid to teach bull shit about lifting

so you are generalizing this information for the handful of trainers you have seen? also, how do you even know what the clients goals are? just because you dont see them doing bbell squats and deadlifts, does not mean they are not getting the results they are asking for.. not everyone wants to be able to do 200 lbs squats and deads...

[SkinnyPupp]

not everyone wants to be able to do 200 lbs squats and deads...
Of course, most people want to be able to do concentration curls. So that's what the trainers have them do. This is what makes the trainers good.. right?

[Spidey]

Of course, most people want to be able to do concentration curls. So that's what the trainers have them do. This is what makes the trainers good.. right?

I know trainers that do heavy compound lifts like deads and squats, cleans etc. with their clients.. If that is ALL could and did train.. they would have 2 clients per day, at most. From a trainer`s standpoint, if a client says they want to incorporate arms exercises and or ab exercises, you will oblige. They have to right to request for it, and the trainer should be able to throw in bicep curls or even calf raises into their workout routine without sacrificing efficiency. You aren`t going to get them to do 4 sets of curls and a minute rest between.

You realize that the majority of people who get trainers are in their 40s-50s and could care less about max squats and deads. They are there to achieve the most efficient and maximum benefits from exercising. This includes general knowledge, and increase in their flexibilty, endurance, strength, cardiovascular condition etc. Along with that, just being confident and comfortable in the gym setting. Some if not most people use this one hour as an `out` where they can destress and get their mind away from work, their family, and other stresses.

Most, not all, but the vast majority of you guys here only know what you want to know. That is fine with me, but it is narrow-minded for you to think that the way you train is the only way.

I don`t have a problem with anyone who soley trains for hypertrophy or strength.. or periodize between the both, but to assume everyone should and wants to learn and tap into a SMALL aspect of exercise, is naive.

Lastly, I find it interesting that most of you here idolize bodybuilders that are pumped up with various hormones and drugs.

[sas]

Most, not all, but the vast majority of you guys here only know what you want to know. That is fine with me, but it is narrow-minded for you to think that the way you train is the only way.

Well said. Next time, just ignore and move on. Chances are, your knowledge is not so great that it covers the entire spectrum.

[SkinnyPupp]

Blue I totally see where you're coming from, but you are making some extreme generalizations that are just digging you into a deeper hole.

To be fair, others on the opposite side of the argument are doing the same. Who needs trainers? Lots of people. Every single athlete, for instance.

You might know some good trainers, and there are many out there. I know some myself. But they are in the vast minority. We're talking like 1-2% of the overall population, if that.
the trainer should be able to throw in bicep curls or even calf raises into their workout routine without sacrificing efficiency. You aren`t going to get them to do 4 sets of curls and a minute rest between.
Nobody said anything against curls or calf raises, both of which are extremely useful exercises. If that's all you do, that's another issue.

You realize that the majority of people who get trainers are in their 40s-50s and could care less about max squats and deads.
Yes, most people who get trainers just want to look good naked. THat's all there is to it. Nobody said anything about having to get "max squats and deads". But most good trainers will take their clients who want to look good naked, and have them do... squats and deads! But what do I see every day? Curls, curls, more curls. Maybe some lat pulldowns and leg extensions. I'm sure most will concur.

Most, not all, but the vast majority of you guys here only know what you want to know. That is fine with me, but it is narrow-minded for you to think that the way you train is the only way.
Again, another vast generalization that is totally wrong. Even in this very forum we all train differently.
That's what makes it an engaging place for discussion (when the usual suspects aren't being useless trolls, that is).

Lastly, I find it interesting that most of you here idolize bodybuilders that are pumped up with various hormones and drugs.
And this is the biggest misconception you have of all. Some people here are into that, but I'd say they are in the minority.

The point people raised about trainers is that generally (98-99%) they are only out there to make a buck, getting people to do stupid training techniques. Whether or not their clients have similar goals is beside the point. I see some trainer showing their obese client how to do circuits on all the ab machines, they are yet another example of shitty trainers we all see too much.

[Spidey]

Blue I totally see where you're coming from, but you are making some extreme generalizations that are just digging you into a deeper hole.

To be fair, others on the opposite side of the argument are doing the same. Who needs trainers? Lots of people. Every single athlete, for instance.

You might know some good trainers, and there are many out there. I know some myself. But they are in the vast minority. We're talking like 1-2% of the overall population, if that.

Nobody said anything against curls or calf raises, both of which are extremely useful exercises. If that's all you do, that's another issue.


Yes, most people who get trainers just want to look good naked. THat's all there is to it. Nobody said anything about having to get "max squats and deads". But most good trainers will take their clients who want to look good naked, and have them do... squats and deads! But what do I see every day? Curls, curls, more curls. Maybe some lat pulldowns and leg extensions. I'm sure most will concur.


Again, another vast generalization that is totally wrong. Even in this very forum we all train differently.
That's what makes it an engaging place for discussion (when the usual suspects aren't being useless trolls, that is).


And this is the biggest misconception you have of all. Some people here are into that, but I'd say they are in the minority.

The point people raised about trainers is that generally (98-99%) they are only out there to make a buck, getting people to do stupid training techniques. Whether or not their clients have similar goals is beside the point. I see some trainer showing their obese client how to do circuits on all the ab machines, they are yet another example of shitty trainers we all see too much.

my extreme generalizations are to make a point, and to answer to your generalizations.. 1-2 %? If you don't call that extreme generalization, I don't know what is. In every profession there are guys who just kick back and get through the day without caring. Doctors, dentists etc.. they get the job done at the minimum and "hate" their job. Come to my personal training studio where there are trainers that have been in the industry for minumum 5-10 years, and tell me that 98% of those guys are horrible. You are basing your perception on the same few trainers you see at community centres and fitness world. It is like basing your perception of Vancouver as whole from the community in East Van or, to be extreme again, East Side Downtown. You have only seen the guys that just got their certification and or just have their weight trainers certification...

I agree with you that there are horrible trainers, and the worst I have seen are at Fitness World. There are a couple of trainers at my trainer only studio that I would never refer anyone to, but to say 98 or even 50% of the them, is insane.

And to beat a dead horse regarding squats and deads... Not everyone can perform those exercises safely. So my reply would be, NO, not everyone should do it because they are great exercises. I do them myself, but it doesn't mean everyone I train should do them just because I can and I do.

The trainer's that should be looked at as "bad" should be the ones that have generic workout programs for client a, b, c, and d. I have clients who will never be able to step on a treadmill due to predisposed issues, some that will overcome previous knee and back issues to do anything I throw at them, and also ones that just want to live pain free from lower back degeneration and or previous neck injuries.

[Valour]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k6w1yP5-XY&feature=channel


She does porn!

NSFW link

http://www.nshoneys.com/hosted1/hh/gals/susana-spears-firm-form-in-her-bikini/pic12.jpg

[Spidey]

She does porn!

NSFW link

http://www.nshoneys.com/hosted1/hh/gals/susana-spears-firm-form-in-her-bikini/pic12.jpg

skeptical that is her.. and i was hopign for some hardcore video lol

[The_AK]

For some folks trainers are needed so people don't result to "solutions" like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXHUdvvHTkw