[buddha1]

so apparently my friend said getting your N (L to N) license in 2011 will take two years instead of the normal 1 year.. anyone else here about this? I hope thats not true cause I am getting my L in late december so if i miss it, i get owned..

[Fafine]

much needed

[dink]

that's a good move by ICBC

[JHatta]

it means your last gen of drivers were so bad, they think you need another year to think about your driving habits.

I'm glad I got my N by 17

[wingies]

Definitely needed, this is one thing I agree with ICBC on

[Ikkaku]

:lol

This is the joy that the adults must have felt when we were complaining about the implementation of the GLP program

[FN-2199]

I completely back this up. Too many retarded N drivers out there thinking they're the Stig, or are just an Asian version of James May.

[tonyvu]

agreed with waiting 2 years instead of 1, too many asshole drivers nowadays thinking they have something to prove on the road...

[eurochevy]

young kids are too influenced they need the 2 years honestly

[!e.lo_]

hey good move
now how about retesting people once they reach a certain age? then have to retest every 5 years after or something.

[buddha1]

I kind of agree with this because at my high school all these guys think they are nuts with their corollas on canadian tire spinners which just makes me facepalm pretty hard :facepalm:

however, from a learner's perspective, that blows... gotta drive my car 2 years with my parent! no thx. I wanna get my N faster so i can come to revscene 2012 alone! :D

[Santofu]

Is there any change for N stage to become class 5?

[dink]

I kind of agree with this because at my high school all these guys think they are nuts with their corollas on canadian tire spinners which just makes me facepalm pretty hard :facepalm:

however, from a learner's perspective, that blows... gotta drive my car 2 years with my parent! no thx. I wanna get my N faster so i can come to revscene 2012 alone! :D

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[The_AK]

All i have to say is HA HA

[turb0triX]

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[E-40six]

I'm glad they are doing this, like others have stated, lots of noobs of road thinking they are king shit.

They should also teach kids not to cut off trucks, its fucking dangerous cause we cant stop fast enough if you decide to slam on your brakes

[SpuGen]

Haaah.
I feel old now. They changed the rules for my generation. Only 1 Passenger with N, and I thought that sucked.

Now it's 2 years to get your N, and you can still only drive 1 person. LOL

hey good move
now how about retesting people once they reach a certain age? then have to retest every 5 years after or something.

Wait till the baby boomers are all dead.

[geeknerd]

where is the source?
i have heard this rumour for like 5 years now

[RevYouUp]

nah..they should just change it so that fobs and clais have to wait 2 years to get them

[ForbiddenX]

I thought this was implemented this year? My gf's bro just got his L and I think he has to wait 2 years before his N road test

[rien]

I thought this was implemented this year? My gf's bro just got his L and I think he has to wait 2 years before his N road test
no it's not. i could book my road test 1 year minus 1 week from the time i took my L :thumbsup:

[MWR34]

Life was alot easier when I did my GLP.

When you turned 16, you could do your Written test, If you pass you get your Learners (L)

you then had 6 Months to practice ( shortened to 3 months if you went with a 30 Hour Driving School ).

At the 3 or 6 month period, you did a Road Test. If you passed you got your N.

Then the N was for 18 months with Zero Alcohol, and 2 passengers.

I got my Class 5 at 17year 9 months old.

[satek]

Excellent.
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/pictures/regulars/MrBurns1.gif

[rJZx]

This better be bullshit.... If it takes 1 year then you are gonna see a lot more aggressive drivers acting like they own the road just cause they have their license.

[FerrariEnzo]

Life was alot easier when I did my GLP.

When you turned 16, you could do your Written test, If you pass you get your Learners (L)

you then had 6 Months to practice ( shortened to 3 months if you went with a 30 Hour Driving School ).

At the 3 or 6 month period, you did a Road Test. If you passed you got your N.

Then the N was for 18 months with Zero Alcohol, and 2 passengers.

I got my Class 5 at 17year 9 months old.
i got mine when i turned 16, went in did my computer test.. passed, hired an intructor and took a few lessons.. signed up for the road test and passed it. all this took 6months.
in 14 years of driving, only 1 accident (12 years ago) and 5 speeding tickets.. i say thats good...



also, this doesn't change the fact that people still cant drive regardless if they have to wait 5 years to get their N or even full license.. but i guess its better then not doing anything and handing over the full license.

[threezero]

also, this doesn't change the fact that people still cant drive regardless if they have to wait 5 years to get their N or even full license.. but i guess its better then not doing anything and handing over the full license.

agree.

what would really make a difference?

push the age back, to like 18 or 19 before you can even get your L.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D:D:D

[keifun]

wow things have changed a lot since the GLP was introduced. Luckily I was lucky to finish the whole GLP with the very first rules

written exam --->L, practice/wait 6 months; take N test---> drive with N for 1year with no passenger limit. Did all that around 17 and was able to take the car out for Grad Prom.

sucks for the kids now..oh wells

[quasi]

Life was alot easier when I did my GLP.

When you turned 16, you could do your Written test, If you pass you get your Learners (L)

you then had 6 Months to practice ( shortened to 3 months if you went with a 30 Hour Driving School ).

At the 3 or 6 month period, you did a Road Test. If you passed you got your N.

Then the N was for 18 months with Zero Alcohol, and 2 passengers.

I got my Class 5 at 17year 9 months old.

LOL, I had my class 5 at 16. The good old days before N's. Thinking back I drove like a tool when I was that age, the restricted licence is a good thing.

[Anjew]

they need a retest every 5 years for everyone imo.... then every 2 years for people over 70

i'm willing to sacrifice my convenience if it means a few dangerous idiots lose their license...

[d1]

I remember when I got my licence they just changed the rule where instead of waiting 6 months before getting your N, you needed to wait a full year. I wanted to rage then even with the 6 month increase so I can't imagine how the kids these days would feel.

[ilvtofu]

where is the source?
i have heard this rumour for like 5 years now

+1 a bunch of my friends got their L's last year because they heard of this, I call :bullshit: just because it feels like every year they say this, I don't disagree with it but still feels like :bullshit: unless theres a source to back it up.

2 yrs for N sounds reasonable, maybe take off 6 months from N to class 5 haha

[buddha1]

they need a retest every 5 years for everyone imo.... then every 2 years for people over 70

i'm willing to sacrifice my convenience if it means a few dangerous idiots lose their license...

i agree, seniors should be tested way more often cause there are so many health problems and reaction time is much slower than your average person.

[essel]

Good thing I've already finished with the GLP, already felt long enough with the 1 year then 2 year.

[PiuYi]

nah..they should just change it so that fobs and clais dont get them

fixed.

[orange7]

I think they should revise the testing format.

a lot of ppl pass the road test due to luck of having the test at the right time. They probably can't pass it the second time.

30 mins is not really enough to judge someone's driving ability.

For example, if they didn't encounter any hard driving decisions during the test, then it's kinda unsafe to just pass that person.

for example, there should scenarios where they have to face a tail gater, or even a anxious driver on the road.


I remember for my test, a lady suddenly ran across the road nearly causing an accidents.

[Peturbo]

This is just one of the rumours that gets spread every year in high school.
Don't believe all this BS unless you actually see it on the icbc website.
Yet every year, there are people that actually fall for it. :lol

[Tim Budong]

regardless, the worst are the kids who have their parents buy them a beater..
then they think it blows, cuz its crap..but at least have a car..
the same child might come out thinking that maybe if i thrash this beater, I will get a better car.

[moomooCow]

regardless, the worst are the kids who have their parents buy them a beater..
then they think it blows, cuz its crap..but at least have a car..
the same child might come out thinking that maybe if i thrash this beater, I will get a better car.

I think it's better to say that the worst are the kids who just don't deserve to be driving yet / aren't capable of accepting the responsibilities. It's entirely independent of what car they get, if they're an idiot, they'll fuck up one way or another.

[Walperstyle]

Never had an N. So glad.

But then again, I was driving at my cousins farm in Alberta at age 12.

[Walperstyle]

Now if only ICBC could do some more advanced driver tests for the FOB commercial drivers.

aka, all those people promiced a job even before they set foot into Canada through corrupt unions. Thats a different story.

[OTG-ZR2]

^ +1

i laugh at the fob truckers that come into my work and cant back up worth a shit

[hk20000]

Never had an N. So glad.

But then again, I was driving at my cousins farm in Alberta at age 12.

Real life Takumi there. :rofl:

[the shocker]

lol i have been hearing about this for years, even when i was about to get my L I heard this. That was about 4 years ago and still nothing has changed

[InvisibleSoul]

LOL, I had my class 5 at 16. The good old days before N's. Thinking back I drove like a tool when I was that age, the restricted licence is a good thing.
:thumbsup:

Yeah... I know I did some pretty stupid things when I was freshly licensed... drove on the wrong side of the Kingsway around a median just for the hell of it (but at like 5am), going 160kmph around the UBC highway with a full car load and people sticking their heads out the window...

I don't remember exactly when I got my class 5, but all I know is that we were packing like eight people into my old Corolla station wagon, including two in the trunk... and that was in the summer after grade 10.

Ah yes, the good ol' days...

I pity the current new driver generation... only being able to drive one passenger.

[Bouncing Bettys]

I had my class 5 a few weeks after turning 16 (it was hard to book lessons between summer holidays) and right before the GLP was announced. There was a huge rush for all my friends to get theirs before the GLP went into effect. I'm glad I also got my idiot driving out of the way before ICBC implimented that Driving Risk Program.

[q0192837465]

I got nailed by a N driver not too long ago at Richmond (where else?). I support this.

[604nguyen]

18 should be when people get their L's
and the skills test should be ALOT harder

too many nubs on the road

and there should be mandatory annual re-examinations for richmond residents to prevent situations like these from happening again (still dont understand how this can even happen):


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[JD¹³]

agree.

what would really make a difference?
Mandatory driver training. Period.

The time between getting your L and then your N will change absolutely nothing in terms of the quality of drivers we see on our roads. I have driven in quite a few different countries around the world and Vancouver / Victoria no joke have the worst and most unpredictable drivers I've ever seen.

A massive +1 to Anjew's post as well.

[Great68]

Doesn't affect me, so they could make it 5 years and I wouldn't care.

[KuSouL]

It'd be great if it was 18 for L and 2 years for N.

[JSALES]

thank God I already have my class 5. I would have hated this if I still had my L

[TOPEC]

I think the biggest problem with the GLP is that when people get their L, they dont practice their driving at all during that 1 year period, and when they go for their N road test, they luck out and pass. They then start driving out with no experience and do stupid shit.

This period of time is meant for the newbis to learn how to drive properly under guidance and not get ur L and forget it.

[the shocker]

I think the biggest problem with the GLP is that when people get their L, they dont practice their driving at all during that 1 year period, and when they go for their N road test, they luck out and pass. They then start driving out with no experience and do stupid shit.

This period of time is meant for the newbis to learn how to drive properly under guidance and not get ur L and forget it.

Yes so true. I think i put on about 20,000km with my L

[tegz]

lol, I think 1 year is fine... because if u fuck up during your 1 year of L, you will get suspended and have to re-do the 1 year again... and again and again if you keep fucking up rofl

[Momo251212]

i don't think change 1 year to 2 years will solve that problem. Driving experience will not gain because of the length of the driving time. if someone keeps driving like an asshole for 2 years, it will even harder to change his habit.

i know there are many bad n drivers. however there r many bad NORMAL drivers too. As an N driver (I am an N driver), we learn and experience on the road. but some asses just give us hard time no matter how safely, slowly, fast, or normally we drive.

To educate N drivers, we need more proper driving school (not just learning law and signs). we should build more tracks and teach people what racing is and bring the street racing attitude out of the street. and people please do not hate racing. Proper racing is not that terrifying as you might think

[1990TSI]

Ls are sooo 2000

[Qmx323]

^ Having an N/L on the back of your car =

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hb6V9v6FhRs/SqkQYwI5v1I/AAAAAAAADhc/_RY-oRS42FU/s400/kick_me.jpg

[twitchyzero]

this doesn't change much
most L drivers will practice a month or two before their Class 7N road test...prolonging another year won't make a difference IMO. If anyhing they should prolong the period from 7N to Class 5 as that's when most new drivers are on the road with no supervision.

[bloodmack]

hey good move
now how about retesting people once they reach a certain age? then have to retest every 5 years after or something.

I agree but I think a driving test every 5 years after a certain age, i think 50 yrs old is a good start for something like this. Also, there should be implemented after every major accident you have if its your fault 100%. I thought it already
was 2 years for L to N?

L driving isn't where you learn the most. My L felt like a theory test all the way to my N. When you have your N you get more real world experience. I notice that the worst drivers are the ones who aren't confident with their driving abilities.

Another thing is for L drivers they should have lets say 200 hours of driving time clocked in and signed by a parent or driving instructor. If its really expanded to 2 years then this should be very easy to achieve.

[the shocker]

even if it's changed to 2 years for L, it won't actually do much especially for the people who barely drive with there L

[fliptuner]

:thumbsup:

Yeah... I know I did some pretty stupid things when I was freshly licensed... drove on the wrong side of the Kingsway around a median just for the hell of it (but at like 5am), going 160kmph around the UBC highway with a full car load and people sticking their heads out the window...

I don't remember exactly when I got my class 5, but all I know is that we were packing like eight people into my old Corolla station wagon, including two in the trunk... and that was in the summer after grade 10.

Ah yes, the good ol' days...

I pity the current new driver generation... only being able to drive one passenger.

Yup, same shit here.

Dad took me to get my learners on my 16th birthday and after I passed, I booked my roadtest for exactly 1 month later. A week after I passed, I got my first ticket for excessive noise and speeding (drifting onto Robson from Denman and getting it up to 80 before I got pulled over).

Being a little older now and having a kid that's going to be driving in a couple of years, I'm all for it.

One thing I really hope they change is non-English tests and translators - I think it's complete horse shit. If you can't read the signs, you can't get a license, period.

[jpark]

i know that i shouldnt be talking because when i first got my N in grade 11 long time back, i was the same way in my moms car :D... but honestly i have taught my self out of it as i grew.. i figured i looked like a 'fag' driving like an idiot with big fat Z on (awesome N sideways trend). Unfortunatly i still have couple friends in ridge that drive like highschool idiots... couple weeks ago at my friends birthday dinner, my friend got his 96 acura tl and started doing burnouts and ebrake pull after dinner....same age as me and has his N still.

It seriously made me so embarassed.. i wanted to just gtfo... i try giving him advice but hes always "but i lovee driving fast".. i guess the real way to learn is to experience some horrific accident or just teach yourself out of it as you grow.. these systems wont change the element by much...

[phunky.FOB]

NOOO!!!... my life is fail if it does changes..

[hkRicer]

So much hypocrisy in this thread. I don't think the same thing will be said if you aren't N/Class 5 already. I'm a class 5 myself and i don't really give a damn about this. There are many N drivers that drives way better than the class 5 c-lai in richmond. Some people just sucks at driving. The one that sucks will keep sucking and get their class 5. Make no difference

[FerrariEnzo]

ive mention this is related thread awhile back...

should implement roadtest every 5 years a minimum.. sure you gona have to pay, sure its a pain, but hey... theres gona be less idiots on the road...

and for ppl who get caught drinking and driving should be ban from driving...

[RiceIntegraRS]

the problem i have about implementing a roadtest every 5 years is the roadtest itself. The roadtest is a joke, all u do is make sure u dont do any of ur bad habits for that hr, make sure u dont speed at all, shoulder check like crazy and ur done. Its like picking up a chick, or meeting the parents for the first time, pretending to be someone ur not for that 1 hr just to win something over.

[twitchyzero]

the problem i have about implementing a roadtest every 5 years is the roadtest itself. The roadtest is a joke, all u do is make sure u dont do any of ur bad habits for that hr, make sure u dont speed at all, shoulder check like crazy and ur done. Its like picking up a chick, or meeting the parents for the first time, pretending to be someone ur not for that 1 hr just to win something over.

got a better idea? retest everything you get in a 100% at-fault accident?

[FerrariEnzo]

the problem i have about implementing a roadtest every 5 years is the roadtest itself. The roadtest is a joke, all u do is make sure u dont do any of ur bad habits for that hr, make sure u dont speed at all, shoulder check like crazy and ur done. Its like picking up a chick, or meeting the parents for the first time, pretending to be someone ur not for that 1 hr just to win something over.

you cant easily hide 5 years of bad habit driving, i mean the more harder you try, the more easier for you to make a mistake.

i would also like eye sight test done also, at least within 2 years of the retest... lots of freaking blind people...

[orange7]

they should also implement a rule where if someone failed the N test over 40 times, that person should be automatically banned from driving in BC.

[sebTeggy]

good, less idiots on the roads

drivers cant drive worth SHIT

thank this shit

[gdoh]

they should also implement a rule where if someone failed the N test over 40 times, that person should be automatically banned from driving in BC.

wtf who fails there N 40 times

ive seen alot of none N drivers who cant drive for shit too

[GreddySpaghetti]

WELL IS THIS TRUE.............. OR WHAT ????????? AND IF SO.... WHAT TIME NEXT YEAR DOES IT START?

[bloodmack]

I'm not saying your all bad drivers, but most of you guys talk like your a perfect driver. Sure these days it seems worst, I don't think its worst. You just didn't see how bad it was until you got better at it.

[GreddySpaghetti]

WELL IS THIS TRUE.............. OR WHAT ????????? AND IF SO.... WHAT TIME NEXT YEAR DOES IT START?
?

[CP.AR]

18 should be when people get their L's
and the skills test should be ALOT harder

too many nubs on the road

and there should be mandatory annual re-examinations for richmond residents to prevent situations like these from happening again (still dont understand how this can even happen):


http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs388.ash2/66609_447579048180_509688180_5512243_8054819_n.jpg

wutisthisidonteven

HOW THE HELL?:eek5:

[monkeywrench]

Honestly the time it takes IMO is fine at 1 year. The longer the better but the problem isn't time here. It's the examiners who let these idiots on the road so easily. I have a family member who works in and out of ICBC day to day. These examiners fall asleep on Class 5 highway runs, and simply let people pass like it was nothing. I've known people who forget to release the handbrake and drive off, hit the curb while making a right turn, fail to shoulder check every corner and still pass.

ICBC's examiners and their system has to change in order to stop these FOBs if you will from causing so much havoc around town, especially Richmond for obvious reasons.

[Death2Theft]

I agree I know lots of people who have their L's now and arn't gonna do squat until the last month.
this doesn't change much
most L drivers will practice a month or two before their Class 7N road test...prolonging another year won't make a difference IMO. If anyhing they should prolong the period from 7N to Class 5 as that's when most new drivers are on the road with no supervision.

[gdoh]

Honestly the time it takes IMO is fine at 1 year. The longer the better but the problem isn't time here. It's the examiners who let these idiots on the road so easily. I have a family member who works in and out of ICBC day to day. These examiners fall asleep on Class 5 highway runs, and simply let people pass like it was nothing. I've known people who forget to release the handbrake and drive off, hit the curb while making a right turn, fail to shoulder check every corner and still pass.

ICBC's examiners and their system has to change in order to stop these FOBs if you will from causing so much havoc around town, especially Richmond for obvious reasons.

i had to take my N test 4 times 3 times i got girls who failed me for the dumbest shit and then i got a guy on the fourth try and he stopped writing after 15mins and we got back and he said i did perfect except i was a little to far from the curb on uphill parking

but it amazes me how other ppl get their licenses (mainly brown and asain people) who just make you wonder how the fuck they got their license

[spyker]

but it amazes me how other ppl get their licenses (mainly brown and asain people) who just make you wonder how the fuck they got their license

It probably took them 40 tries to get it.

[quasi]

LOL, when I took the test in 1992 I was taught by my parents who lets just say didn't necessarily have the best driving habits. They never taught my things like shoulder checking for pedestrians or cyclists when turning right. During my test I did some mistakes like that and the tester was like just so you know you should do that, doesn't take any marks off or anything. There was something else I can't remember what it is now but he basically gives me a perfect score and is like have fun.

Times have changed so much and probably for the better.

[GreddySpaghetti]

I WILL ASK AGAIN, IS THIS TRUE? AND IF SO WHEN DOES IT START NEXT YEAR? CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THIS?

[//RacingSpirit>>]

I WILL ASK AGAIN, IS THIS TRUE? AND IF SO WHEN DOES IT START NEXT YEAR? CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THIS?

Starts Jan 2nd. Better get your license quick!

[Not really racist!]

Source guys source!

Don't believe anything until I see proof.

[spideyv2]

seems a little harsh, it's not so much not being able to drive and needing more practice..it's more of the bad habits and pissed off drivers on the road

Luckily I just passed my class 7 test a couple weeks ago, but waiting 2 years before I can go in for my class 5 seems pretty ridiculous.

[hc529]

seems a little harsh, it's not so much not being able to drive and needing more practice..it's more of the bad habits and pissed off drivers on the road

Luckily I just passed my class 7 test a couple weeks ago, but waiting 2 years before I can go in for my class 5 seems pretty ridiculous.

When I first passed my class7n test, I thought it was ridiculous to wait 2yrs, but the 2yrs go by so fast.
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[shenmecar]

When I first passed my class7n test, I thought it was ridiculous to wait 2yrs, but the 2yrs go by so fast.
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I felt that way too. I called my driving instructor to book a 2hr lesson before my Class 5 just to refresh myself. He was like, DAMN I thought you got your N half a year ago! Has it been 2 years already??

[spideyv2]

How is the class 5 test? harder/easier than the class 7?

[ilvtofu]

1 more year to go till my Class 5, but yeah I don't really care lol

[monkeywrench]

i had to take my N test 4 times 3 times i got girls who failed me for the dumbest shit and then i got a guy on the fourth try and he stopped writing after 15mins and we got back and he said i did perfect except i was a little to far from the curb on uphill parking

but it amazes me how other ppl get their licenses (mainly brown and asain people) who just make you wonder how the fuck they got their license

Well for the most part, who the examiner is plays a big part in it. I know a specific examiner at the Richmond ICBC office who purposely instructs people to make a turn at the very last second. No one can make a left turn safely when they are driving in the right lane at the last second before the intersection...

[woob]

How is the class 5 test? harder/easier than the class 7?

Easier. I didn't get tested on anything other than driving, really. No parallel parking, reverse parking, or three-point turn. The only thing I did that was harder than class 7 was spotting hazards (bike lane, hill, foliage, etc.) while moving

[Peturbo]

^ Same for my class 5 test. The class 5 road test is basically just to make sure you haven't picked up any bad habits.

[buddha1]

so is this legit or not?

[mb_]

Until ICBC says so, it's not

[dL]

Best move if all c-lai's are required a road test for every renewal of their driver license.

dL