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Dangers of fish farming and the gov't denies the release of information on farms.
DragonChi
11-04-2010, 01:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vekW4FgXefo&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.theprovince.com/technology/Canadian+researchers+issue+warning+over+environmen tal+impact+fish+farming/3734962/story.html
Whats happening on our coast happened to Norway and is now illegal there.
Don't let it happen to us.
Great68
11-04-2010, 02:43 PM
It's difficult. Fish farms contribute to the economy, but they definately have environmental problems.
I just vote with my wallet and don't buy farmed fish.
dinamix
11-04-2010, 02:49 PM
good video but not entirely true... there were over 50 million sockeyes this year..
they were hiding in 2009 ...lolz
zulutango
11-04-2010, 08:14 PM
The "researcher in charge of this so-called independant study by UVIC is one of Alexandra Morton's buddies...and she makes her living and gets her funding from the Alsakan salmon farmers, among others. Just google his name and see for yourself. There is a lot more to the salmon situation than is being manipulated and massaged by treehuggers (salmonhuggers?)
Nightwalker
11-04-2010, 08:17 PM
Fish farms should all be landlocked
Graeme S
11-04-2010, 08:23 PM
good video but not entirely true... there were over 50 million sockeyes this year..
they were hiding in 2009 ...lolz
There's a preliminary study that has suggested that the high returns this year are in part due to a boom in phytoplankton populations that resulted from an Alaskan volcano erupting; next year may see a "crash" similar to last year's, as this year may not be a return but an abnormality.
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The_AK
11-04-2010, 08:36 PM
It's difficult. Fish farms contribute to the economy, but they definately have environmental problems.
I just vote with my wallet and don't buy farmed fish.
Where do you get your salmon? If you're buying from a grocery store, would it indicate that the fish was farmed?
I believe farmed salmon has to be marked, Farmed Atlantic Salmon. Not sure about small fish markets, but supermarkets have to label the fish as such.
Atlantic Salmon has no business being in our waters. The species belongs to the other ocean. This is the Pacific Ocean.
I believe the sockeye salmon we see in the Fraser is safe from fish farms. The fish farms in BC are further up north.
We have the best tasting salmon in the world. People from around the world will pay very high prices for our fish. Why the hell would we jeopardize it for shitty tasting salmon? Once the species is gone, it is gone. Stop fucking around and say no to this shit.
BTW, Norway is starting up farm fishing again. Costco in Seattle is selling the shit. The Norwegians have probably fixed all the problems they had with fish farms this time around. Our fish farms? No. The people who run it are a bunch of greedy no minds who have no fucking idea what they are doing. It is big business here and when people see dollar signs, everything takes a back seat.
illicitstylz
11-04-2010, 09:02 PM
Heavily debated topic, here is a possible alternative to this though.
"Frankenfish"
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2010/10/22/w-aquabounty-salmon.jpg
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/10/22/aquabounty-genetically-engineered-salmon.html
Presto
11-04-2010, 09:54 PM
Where do you get your salmon? If you're buying from a grocery store, would it indicate that the fish was farmed?
I usually shop at Save-On. Their fish is labeled. Also, it's easy to tell what's farmed vs wild. The farmed stuff barely has any color to it, compared to the nice, red color of the wild stuff. At Red Robin, the menu touts wild salmon for their salmon and chips entree, but that stuff is definitely farmed. If the color (or lack thereof) doesn't give it away, then the taste will. I only buy the wild stuff. Fresh preferred, but previously frozen works, too.
Wild salmon can be white, pink, as well as brght red. It depends on the species. Chum, Pink, Sockeye, Steelhead (fresh water salmon), Coho, and Spring (white or red).
Sockeye salmon is red.
Atlantic salmon, wild or farmed, is orangy colour.
The reason why Atlantic salmon is farmed is that it grows quickly from smolts to adult stage and is cheap to raise. Unlike the Sockeye that has a four year life cycle. Atlantic salmon comes from the Atlantic. It has no business being here. Anytime you introduce a species that is not indigenous to the region, you risk damaging the local environment.
Great68
11-05-2010, 07:28 AM
Where do you get your salmon?
This year? About 15 miles off the west coast of Vancouver island
If you're buying from a grocery store, would it indicate that the fish was farmed?
Not if it's labelled "wild"
Great68
11-05-2010, 07:32 AM
Fish farms should all be landlocked
Operational costs would be far too high for land based fish farms to be profitable.
This year? About 15 miles off the west coast of Vancouver island
Ucuelet/Tofino/Spring Cove?
Great68
11-05-2010, 07:57 AM
Ucuelet/Tofino/Spring Cove?
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