[The_AK]

So McDonalds is facing a challenge in San Francisco where they are banning the giving away toys with meals since its believed that the toys are enticing kids to eat more from McD's which don't fit nutritional requirements. With obesity a "growing problem" (lolol pun not intended) in the US as well as Canada, do you think that this is a step in the right direction or should retailers/restaurants/other businesses be allowed to freely sell products of their choice to their consumers? Personally, I think its great for society but unfair to these restaurants. Just curious what revscene's thoughts are on this?

more info here:

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/11/03/no-toy-to-go-with-that-shake-san-francisco-bans-happy-meals/#ixzz14F1gKLi0

[yamahar6]

so does that mean you can't go there and ask for "a hamburger, small fries & small coke" lol

[rslater]

America is the country of freedom, what the fuck are they doing getting involved in our every day decisions like eating fast food. Obesity is a problem not because of the food available, its because of the people.

[Jackygor]

The problem of child obesity extends beyond McDonald happy meal toys, but I have to say it is a good start.

[murd0c]

maybe they should look at the parents not the children. It drives me crazy when everyone is blaming the fast food chains when it seems this day and age the parents are either too busy to cook or don't know how to do anything then warm up the oven and toss in the pizza.

If you don't teach the parents it won't make a difference what rules they come up with.

[ShanghaiKid]

America is the country of freedom, what the fuck are they doing getting involved in our every day decisions like eating fast food. Obesity is a problem not because of the food available, its because of the people.

lol.. the food available is a HUGE part of the obesity problem. a lot of the cheaper foods people have to resort to, who can't afford the more expensive fruits, veggies, and higher quality meats, are the ones with all the preservatives, synthetic additives and high caloric/fat content

of course you could argue these same people could exercise, but when they're working 2 jobs and taking care of kids, who can blame them for not finding the time?

edit: ludepower, you're a moron

[vafanculo]

2 things I wished schools were to drill into a young persons mind:

Good driving habits, and nutrition.

Instead of telling kids that McD is bad for them, make them understand from a young age what makes it bad.
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[Jackygor]

Knowledge is power! Maybe its better to do a mandatory health course in elementary to high school instead, you can take the fat out of the food, but you can't take the fat out of the person unless they are educated about it. People needs to take more responsibility in the choices they make, instead of blaming the choices that are presented to them.

[1exotic]

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2313/rtr2fkeo.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_K-O1trBYReo/TBZ_9V3cRdI/AAAAAAAAAHw/H6qtGaCXZlM/s1600/29722_405472765605_692205605_4239833_8286800_n.jpg

[The_AK]

Knowledge is power! Maybe its better to do a mandatory health course in elementary to high school instead, you can take the fat out of the food, but you can't take the fat out of the person unless they are educated about it. People needs to take more responsibility in the choices they make, instead of blaming the choices that are presented to them.

I agree,
It can be a difficult for some to make healthy choices when looking for a quick meal though. Even today when I was heading home I wanted to stop somewhere quick and grab a bite. There are so many shitty foods around us that its can be hard to separate the good from the shitty.

Settled for Pho. lol

[Porschedog]

Sucks for kids in San Francisco!

[lol]

McDonalds marketing is geared towards children. Getting customers for life is their goal.

Happy meal - kids like toys
Ronald McDonald - kids like clowns
Playplace - kids like to have fun
and those other mascots they have those weird looking things. I forget what they are called.

If they are gonna scrap the happy meal they should scrap ronald, the playplace and everything else.

However, IMO, McDonalds isn't the problem. It's the people like someone else mentioned.

I hate how the media always picks on the biggest corporation or body. Sucks to be McDonalds shareholders.

[The_AK]

McDonalds marketing is geared towards children. Getting customers for life is their goal.

Happy meal - kids like toys
Ronald McDonald - kids like clowns
Playplace - kids like to have fun
and those other mascots they have those weird looking things. I forget what they are called.

If they are gonna scrap the happy meal they should scrap ronald, the playplace and everything else.

However, IMO, McDonalds isn't the problem. It's the people like someone else mentioned.

I hate how the media always picks on the biggest corporation or body. Sucks to be McDonalds shareholders.

what about the hamburglar? are they targeting thieves?

:troll:

[unit]

lol.. the food available is a HUGE part of the obesity problem. a lot of the cheaper foods people have to resort to, who can't afford the more expensive fruits, veggies, and higher quality meats, are the ones with all the preservatives, synthetic additives and high caloric/fat content

of course you could argue these same people could exercise, but when they're working 2 jobs and taking care of kids, who can blame them for not finding the time?

edit: ludepower, you're a moron

the supply is there to meet the demand.

[NinjaAceYork]

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2313/rtr2fkeo.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_K-O1trBYReo/TBZ_9V3cRdI/AAAAAAAAAHw/H6qtGaCXZlM/s1600/29722_405472765605_692205605_4239833_8286800_n.jpg

That image made me hungry =S

[Vale46Rossi]

Now the kids can settle for a big Mac meal :)

[hal0g0dv2]

ban coca cola , chips , candy

[deep87]

Giving your kids happy meals is the wrong decision. Whether or not you have the right to make that decision is irrelevant in comparison.
and since when did people start feeling sorry for mcdicks.

[orange7]

sad

[bengy]

You idiots haven't figured out that McDicks has brainwashed their parents already. Can't blame the parents now, let's blame the grandparents... How long has McD been around now???

[lgman]

Problem? What Problem?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdmYInXplY

[TheKingdom2000]

America is the country of freedom, what the fuck are they doing getting involved in our every day decisions like eating fast food. Obesity is a problem not because of the food available, its because of the people.

This isn't entirely true. Sometimes buying fast food is cheaper than going to the super market and buying stuff to cook.
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[SkinnyPupp]

2 things I wished schools were to drill into a young persons mind:

Good driving habits, and nutrition.

Instead of telling kids that McD is bad for them, make them understand from a young age what makes it bad.
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The problem with that is, everything taught would have been wrong.

[b0unce. [?]]

just hit the gym you fat shits, the occasional big mac wont hurt lol

[TheNewGirl]

The problem is that by putting toys in it and putting it in a colorful bag it makes it look less threatening than it is. A chef I know explained to me that 'kids menus' in general are one of marketing's best inventions and nutrition's worst advesaries. And if you look on kids menus even in resterants they tend to be filled with the most unhealthy options that resteraunt has to offer (chicken strips, hamburgers, greasy cheese pizzas).

Many are getting better and offering differant choices of sides and such, but so long children (and parents, we grew up on kids meals too if we were raised in north america) are engrained with the notion that hamburgers and fries are kids fare that's what they'll continue to choose.

It's a cycle that has to be broken, and it's a greater problem then just the parent and child in question as here in Canada, you and I are going to be paying for the health care for the fat kid that's diabetic at 10 or 12 because of what they've been eatting. From that perspective it is everyone's problem.

I don't like banning anything but I think forbidding the toys to be packaged in with the meal and the distractingly colorful packaging is a step in the right direction in this case. I wish they'd do the same here.

[hotong]

reading this makes me want a cheeseburger

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

i want mac nuggets

[Sid Vicious]

The problem is that by putting toys in it and putting it in a colorful bag it makes it look less threatening than it is. A chef I know explained to me that 'kids menus' in general are one of marketing's best inventions and nutrition's worst advesaries. And if you look on kids menus even in resterants they tend to be filled with the most unhealthy options that resteraunt has to offer (chicken strips, hamburgers, greasy cheese pizzas).

Many are getting better and offering differant choices of sides and such, but so long children (and parents, we grew up on kids meals too if we were raised in north america) are engrained with the notion that hamburgers and fries are kids fare that's what they'll continue to choose.

It's a cycle that has to be broken, and it's a greater problem then just the parent and child in question as here in Canada, you and I are going to be paying for the health care for the fat kid that's diabetic at 10 or 12 because of what they've been eatting. From that perspective it is everyone's problem.

I don't like banning anything but I think forbidding the toys to be packaged in with the meal and the distractingly colorful packaging is a step in the right direction in this case. I wish they'd do the same here.

i'm glad there aren't more people like you that live here then

its ridiculous how the government can restrict what a business can sell when its not illegal, harmful etc merely because they believe it's associated with obesity

people are fat from not exercising, you can eat as healthy as you want and get fat if you don't

[wstce92]

The problem is that by putting toys in it and putting it in a colorful bag it makes it look less threatening than it is. A chef I know explained to me that 'kids menus' in general are one of marketing's best inventions and nutrition's worst advesaries. And if you look on kids menus even in resterants they tend to be filled with the most unhealthy options that resteraunt has to offer (chicken strips, hamburgers, greasy cheese pizzas).

Many are getting better and offering differant choices of sides and such, but so long children (and parents, we grew up on kids meals too if we were raised in north america) are engrained with the notion that hamburgers and fries are kids fare that's what they'll continue to choose.

It's a cycle that has to be broken, and it's a greater problem then just the parent and child in question as here in Canada, you and I are going to be paying for the health care for the fat kid that's diabetic at 10 or 12 because of what they've been eatting. From that perspective it is everyone's problem.

I don't like banning anything but I think forbidding the toys to be packaged in with the meal and the distractingly colorful packaging is a step in the right direction in this case. I wish they'd do the same here.

Then its your job as a parent to explain to your child that these "distractingly packaged" meals with toys are actually bad. Everybody needs to do their part and actually PARENT. Tell your kid why its bad and if they still yell and scream for it, set boundaries. Or if they're quite active, reward them with one every now and then. There is nothing that can't be done on the parent side. Healthy food is for sure more expensive, but there are still cheaper and healthier alternatives to the happy meal at the supermarket. Growing up all my mom could afford to feed me with was ham sandwiches day in and day out. She didn't use the best ham or the best bread, but you bet it worked out cheaper and healthier than a happy meal. Nor did it take very long to buy or make and she constantly juggled two jobs. Making your kid go outside to play instead of parked in front of the tv would also help.
People need to stop passing blame onto others and banning everything to try to solve their problems.
/rant

[Arash]

I dont know whats worse, governments (FDA) that allow the sale of neurotoxic food to infants or brainwashed people that defend it.

[b0unce. [?]]

The problem is that by putting toys in it and putting it in a colorful bag it makes it look less threatening than it is. A chef I know explained to me that 'kids menus' in general are one of marketing's best inventions and nutrition's worst advesaries. And if you look on kids menus even in resterants they tend to be filled with the most unhealthy options that resteraunt has to offer (chicken strips, hamburgers, greasy cheese pizzas).

Many are getting better and offering differant choices of sides and such, but so long children (and parents, we grew up on kids meals too if we were raised in north america) are engrained with the notion that hamburgers and fries are kids fare that's what they'll continue to choose.

It's a cycle that has to be broken, and it's a greater problem then just the parent and child in question as here in Canada, you and I are going to be paying for the health care for the fat kid that's diabetic at 10 or 12 because of what they've been eatting. From that perspective it is everyone's problem.

I don't like banning anything but I think forbidding the toys to be packaged in with the meal and the distractingly colorful packaging is a step in the right direction in this case. I wish they'd do the same here.

then go to mcdonalds and order some apple dippers or w/e they are lol

[FN-2199]

Then its your job as a parent to explain to your child that these "distractingly packaged" meals with toys are actually bad. Everybody needs to do their part and actually PARENT. Tell your kid why its bad and if they still yell and scream for it, set boundaries. Or if they're quite active, reward them with one every now and then. There is nothing that can't be done on the parent side. Healthy food is for sure more expensive, but there are still cheaper and healthier alternatives to the happy meal at the supermarket. Growing up all my mom could afford to feed me with was ham sandwiches day in and day out. She didn't use the best ham or the best bread, but you bet it worked out cheaper and healthier than a happy meal. Nor did it take very long to buy or make and she constantly juggled two jobs. Making your kid go outside to play instead of parked in front of the tv would also help.
People need to stop passing blame onto others and banning everything to try to solve their problems.
/rant

I agree. Just because your kids want it, doesn't mean they can have it. It's ultimately the responsibility of the parents, and not the restaurant.
Although I believe they had good intentions in removing the toys from happy meals, the steps to do it were completely wrong. People still have the right to choose between the right and wrong decisions.

[too_slow]

I ordered a big mac (no cheese) for the first time since 1999. Holy shit, the thing shrank by 30%!!!!

On a side note, they might as well BAN fat people while they're at it!!!

[Sid Vicious]

I dont know whats worse, governments (FDA) that allow the sale of neurotoxic food to infants or brainwashed people that defend it.

wait you're calling other people brainwashed when your defending the restriction of personal liberty? Strong irony
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[Arash]

You call serving poison a personal liberty? get your facts right
I agree. Just because your kids want it, doesn't mean they can have it. It's ultimately the responsibility of the parents, and not the restaurant.
Although I believe they had good intentions in removing the toys from happy meals, the steps to do it were completely wrong. People still have the right to choose between the right and wrong decisions.Did you ever see the Simpson's cartoon where the school milk was replaced with rats milk? If no one tells you its rats milk and that it only makes you fat in the long term, is it your fault for letting your future kids have it?

[drunkrussian]

for rich kids there's no excuse for being obese from mcdonalds, other than bad parenting.

if u look at the states, a lot of the obese kids come from shit-income urban areas, where there is a mcdonalds on every block, but no proper grocery store in sight. And even that's not an excuse - when I was a poor kid growing up, my parents would only allow McDonalds on special occasions!

But why not make vegetables more readily available instead of taking away happy meals? Hell, why not give out toys with veggies instead, if if toys are such a good vehicle to entice kids? lol

[The_AK]

i'm glad there aren't more people like you that live here then

its ridiculous how the government can restrict what a business can sell when its not illegal, harmful etc merely because they believe it's associated with obesity

people are fat from not exercising, you can eat as healthy as you want and get fat if you don't
Just because you exercise and eat all the shit you want doesnt mean you'll get all the nutrients you need. A person can be incredibly skinny and eat mcdonalds but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are healthy. Happy meals have zero nutritional value.
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