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Accident without winter tires could hike premiums
PK-EK
11-19-2010, 04:41 PM
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - ICBC has a reminder, and a warning, if you plan on driving in the snow this season. If you do crash while trying to negotiate slushy or snowy streets, your car better have the right gear.
If it turns out you're more than 25 per cent to blame for an accident on wintery roads, you can expect to pay the price with your insurance premiums. Mark Jan Vrem with ICBC says, "If you are in a collision, and the subsequent investigation determines that the lack of winter tires was one of the factors, it's a possibility that it could affect your liability."
That's something it seems few are aware of on Vancouver streets. A woman tells us, "I did not know that, I wasn't aware of it. But luckily, my husband is on the ball and I have snow tires."
Another person says, "I'll think more before I go driving down the hill... But I see people driving past me; I drive no faster than I can slide."
ICBC says driving without the right winter tires may not be the smartest move, but ultimately it won't affect your ability to make a claim, and shouldn't void your insurance.
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/131456--accident-without-winter-tires-could-hike-premiums
What's next?
mandatory snow tires like Quebec?
1exotic
11-19-2010, 04:43 PM
repost.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/winter-tires-time-t628369p12.html
PK-EK
11-19-2010, 04:44 PM
:facepalm:
FML
If you get into an at fault accident your premiums are going to rise regardless
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Roach
11-19-2010, 06:16 PM
If you get into an at fault accident your premiums are going to rise regardless
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Bingo. Any accident where you are deemed over 25% fault means your premiums will increase.
Kev
Hondaracer
11-19-2010, 06:18 PM
what about in a truck with all-terrain radials?
if your going through snow with A/T radials and get into an accident who's to say you werent in 4X4 and had an obvious traction advantage VS even a 2 wheel drive with snowy's?
asian_XL
11-19-2010, 06:39 PM
170 car accidents in the past 2 days in Calgary.
I'd be pissed if I were the insurers
MindBomber
11-19-2010, 07:44 PM
170 car accidents in the past 2 days in Calgary.
I'd be pissed if I were the insurers
I think I'm going to add collision for a couple months..
cococly
11-19-2010, 08:36 PM
so Accidents with Snow tires = No insurance premiums?
What is the purpose of this article? To sell more Winter tires?
Nightwalker
11-19-2010, 08:54 PM
I thought this was common knowledge.
jeffwilliams17
11-19-2010, 09:00 PM
For sure when you're 25% or more at fault your premiums will go up.. But with winter tires you might have a better shot at avoiding an accident in the first place.
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Soundy
11-19-2010, 09:10 PM
so Accidents with Snow tires = No insurance premiums?
What is the purpose of this article? To sell more Winter tires?
You always pay premiums - that's how insurance works.
When you're found at fault in an accident, your premiums go up (unless you repay whatever ICBC had to pay out on the claim).
What they're saying is that if you have an accident, and it's because your car is properly outfitted for the conditions, that you could be assigned a larger portion of the blame... and THAT could affect your premiums.
ICBC has no interest in "selling winter tires". They DO have an interest in reducing accidents, because fewer accidents cost them less money.
TRDood
11-19-2010, 10:21 PM
I don't get the point. The same results happen if you hit a pole with or without snow tires. It will still have premium increases.
I appreciate the reminder, but not the misleading/useless article.
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FerrariEnzo
11-20-2010, 03:17 AM
if your not at fault, this would not apply...
moomooCow
11-20-2010, 05:08 AM
If it turns out you're more than 25 per cent to blame for an accident on wintery roads, you can expect to pay the price with your insurance premiums.
if your not at fault, this would not apply...
:thumbsup:
underscore
11-20-2010, 06:01 PM
Evenyone should put on winters, the traction levels of summer tires drops as it gets colder, and watching the Vancouver news from Kelowna is funny as hell when it snows because it looks like NOONE puts on winters or knows how to drive.
what about in a truck with all-terrain radials?
if your going through snow with A/T radials and get into an accident who's to say you werent in 4X4 and had an obvious traction advantage VS even a 2 wheel drive with snowy's?
4WD doesn't brke any better than 2WD. just sayin'
asian_XL
11-21-2010, 02:35 AM
:facepalm: please don't drive on the road when it is snowing, u guys are moron.
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racerman88
11-21-2010, 10:01 AM
they may deem it that your car is not properly equipped for the weather. Like if you choose to drive in pouring rain and you have bald tires, hydroplane and hit something or someone.
Essentially, it is a preventable accident.
Inaii
11-21-2010, 10:03 AM
What if you don't have winter tires, but you are deemed not at fault, will ICBC still screw you over? (fyi my car has winter tires, I'm just curious :))
TOPEC
11-21-2010, 10:15 AM
another scenario, what if u are waitting at a stop light, and someone read ends u, and pushes u into the car infront of u? i can see icbc trying to put some blame on u saying BS like if u had winter tires u wouldnt have been pushed as easily.
Inaii
11-21-2010, 10:21 AM
Actually that one is all year round. If someone rear-ends you and you're pushed into the car in front of you, ICBC deems you at fault because you were obviously too close to the person.
dinamix
11-21-2010, 10:37 AM
what if i sprayed this on my tires after the accident
http://tyre-grip.com/images/new_can/new_with_shoe.jpg
FN-2199
11-21-2010, 11:04 AM
what if i sprayed this on my tires after the accident
http://tyre-grip.com/images/new_can/new_with_shoe.jpg
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Obviously, you'll haul the other driver over to distinctly lie that you sprayed your tires with that "sticky shit". Then you'll be 100% at fault and will say, "Fuck. I should have put it on before" :troll:
geeknerd
11-21-2010, 09:41 PM
:facepalm:or maybe u can just carry it in ur trunk and say it was already sprayed on -.-
TOPEC
11-21-2010, 10:05 PM
Actually that one is all year round. If someone rear-ends you and you're pushed into the car in front of you, ICBC deems you at fault because you were obviously too close to the person.
actually i think its who ever does the rear ending is fully at fault. so if theres a 4some rear ending going on, the 4th/last person would be paying for the other 3 cars.
GabAlmighty
11-21-2010, 10:18 PM
what about in a truck with all-terrain radials?
if your going through snow with A/T radials and get into an accident who's to say you werent in 4X4 and had an obvious traction advantage VS even a 2 wheel drive with snowy's?
My pops said something about truck being alright, because generally it'll be a mud and snow type of tire if it's a proper truck tire. Could be just talkin out of my ass here but my new tires I put on my truck worked fine on saturday for me. (I was off road).
4WD doesn't brke any better than 2WD. just sayin'
Much more control though when in 4wd.
MindBomber
11-21-2010, 11:18 PM
Actually that one is all year round. If someone rear-ends you and you're pushed into the car in front of you, ICBC deems you at fault because you were obviously too close to the person.
That makes no sense.
The shock of the impact could push my foot off the brake and force me into the car ahead. I could be hit by someone going extremely fast, pushing my car a long way. A large truck could hit me, pushing my car.
threezero
11-22-2010, 12:45 AM
That makes no sense.
The shock of the impact could push my foot off the brake and force me into the car ahead. I could be hit by someone going extremely fast, pushing my car a long way. A large truck could hit me, pushing my car.
read the reply above. doesn't apply when you are in a 2+ car crash, the one at the very end is the one who is fully responsible.
otherwise in a 2 car situation the person doing the rear end is always at fault
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