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Tailgating.
MindBomber
11-22-2010, 12:24 PM
Why the fuck do people tailgate?
Its dangerous, stupid, achieves nothing, upsets other drivers and if you cause an accident your at fault.
If I'm going the speed limit in the right lane, I don't understand what the fuck your trying to achieve. I'm not going to speed up, I'm going the speed limit, if you want to pass me the left lane is there, why not use it. If I brake check, don't flip me off, if you weren't tailgating you wouldn't have had to hit your brakes. What if there's an emergency and I need to hit my brakes hard to avoid an accident, you'll hit rear end me and be 100% liable. Drivers in British Columbia need to go back to school, can anyone tell me what the proper following distance when going 100km per hour is?
This is especially meant for semi-truck drivers, seeing as one almost killed me on highway 1 today.
Mods: This might belong in fight club, I wasn't sure..
iamon
11-22-2010, 12:28 PM
I hate those people that tailgate on a one lane street and then pass u when the one lane gets wider on the right.
RevRav
11-22-2010, 12:32 PM
Brake hard, and enjoy your new OEM, freshly painted bumper :)
jpark
11-22-2010, 12:36 PM
dont worry dude.. happens to me so much now i just dont even care anymore
MindBomber
11-22-2010, 12:37 PM
Unless, like in my case today, your rear ended by a semi going 100k. In that case I'd be enjoying the inside of a wooden box.
I really don't care most of the time, except when its a commercial truck.
In those situations I usually just ease up on the gas and let my car slow down naturally. Sooner or later, the douche behind me will switch lanes and pass. I'd hate to have an accident, so doing it gradually works better than breaking.
2 second rule going 100 km/h is 55m. The book actually recommends 3 seconds if you're on the highway, or in a vehicle that stops slower (such as a semi).
I hate tailgaters as well.
TheNewGirl
11-22-2010, 12:44 PM
I think we all agree that tailgaters should all go to the special hell.
1exotic
11-22-2010, 12:46 PM
yeah tailgating in the right lane is bs, pointless and does nothing.
on the other hand, there's a point to tailgate in the left lane. I'm not talking about in traffic, but when the road is rather clear. I'll usually drive up to the car, to let them know get the fuck out of my way your blocking me. It usually doesn't work because the majority of the drivers here are retarded.
Driving in the US is even better, because most people know how the road system works, unlike here.
MindBomber
11-22-2010, 12:50 PM
I used to do the left lane tailgate just for a second to let someone know your there, but now I prefer a quick high beam flash. Communicates your message just as well, with less risk.
I wish I had gotten the trucks plate, I could have called Trans-Freight and reported the driver, who happened to follow me all the way to school to tell me I was the one who needs driving lessons.
Any lane, tailgaters make me very uncomfortable. If I am in the left lane passing people in the right lane, I shouldn't have to drive like it is F1 race, so I generally don't get tailgaters or their motives.
A flash of high beams is definitely better, I know he is behind me and in a hurry, I'll change lanes to let him/her pass.
Dragon-88
11-22-2010, 01:03 PM
I think we need to upgrade our speed limits.
We need to have somethign like this for hwy.
Minimum speed 100km/h on hwy.(drive slower than this and get ticket)
Max speed allowed 100-130km/h.
Anything over 40Km/h of speed limit = Impound/ticket
& most important Keep right unless passing.
But most likely that will never work.. Because vancouver just has horrible drivers... Some people just cant keep pace....
I thought it was going to be about football tailgating. The lions should have more of a tailgating scene! The empty pne lot should be good for it.
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MindBomber
11-22-2010, 01:08 PM
^then start a thread about football tailgating, don't jack mine.
gearshifter
11-22-2010, 01:19 PM
wouldn't you still need to pay deductible even if it is 100% other guys fault + vehicle accident history?
not sure if thats worth it!
-EuroRSN-
11-22-2010, 01:21 PM
Ill tailgate if ur going slower then the LIMIT otherwise if i wanna pass ill pass on the other lane lol
tool001
11-22-2010, 01:27 PM
Why the fuck do people tailgate?
Its dangerous, stupid, achieves nothing, upsets other drivers and if you cause an accident your at fault.
If I'm going the speed limit in the right lane, I don't understand what the fuck your trying to achieve. I'm not going to speed up, I'm going the speed limit, if you want to pass me the left lane is there, why not use it. If I brake check, don't flip me off, if you weren't tailgating you wouldn't have had to hit your brakes. What if there's an emergency and I need to hit my brakes hard to avoid an accident, you'll hit rear end me and be 100% liable. Drivers in British Columbia need to go back to school, can anyone tell me what the proper following distance when going 100km per hour is?
This is especially meant for semi-truck drivers, seeing as one almost killed me on highway 1 today.
Mods: This might belong in fight club, I wasn't sure..
gonna play devil's advocate here!
u know that the speed of traffic on major roads & highway is over the posted limit by 10kph. now if you are going 80KMh on hwy 1 and rest of traffic is going 90+ and u are on the left lane, y wont you move over to right lane? if i am doing posted limit. i would just stay in right lane anyways. slower traffic keep left, unless to pass.
guess everybody has had thr share of Tailgators, i just move over,, not worth the headache
Qmx323
11-22-2010, 01:28 PM
lol... i saw a road rage incident on my way to work on Saturday
I was going north up st. albans between Blundell and Francis, there was a blue Cadillac SRX in front of me and a gray Mk6 Golf in front of the SRX. The SRX passes the golf on the left (driving on the wrong side of the road) then cuts off the golf.
Then the SRX proceeds to STOP on the fucking curb and cuts off the golf when the golf tries to pass, this happened at least 4 times. At this point there were 5+ cars behind me and this ass hat in the SRX won't fuck off from the golf.
The golf turns right onto Blundell while the SRX is on the left lane, who does a fucking right turn from the middle of the intersection onto Blundell to follow the golf.
Some fucking people need to take things the fuck easier. Although I didn't witness WHAT exactly happened between those two, I'm sure delaying everyone else 5+ minutes and breaking 2-3 laws was worth it.
gonna play devil's advocate here!
u know that the speed of traffic on major roads & highway is over the posted limit by 10kph. now if you are going 80KMh on hwy 1 and rest of traffic is going 90+ and u are on the right lane, y wont you move over to left lane? if i am doing posted. i would just stay in left lane anyways. slower traffic keep left, unless to pass.
im not saying Tailgating is alright, in fact i usually take the left lane to pass. but i do see people riding on some1's ass all the time just because they are going over posted sign and dont wanna change lane.
Why would I change lanes? Left is passing and right is "slower" lane, correct?
tool001
11-22-2010, 01:41 PM
Why would I change lanes? Left is passing and right is "slower" lane, correct?
lol my bad,, thats that i mean,
hirevtuner
11-22-2010, 02:24 PM
just drive normal, if the guy behind you wants to pass, they will
but would reccomend you to be on the right lane (if possible) or else you will be slowing down the fast lane
wouldn't you still need to pay deductible even if it is 100% other guys fault + vehicle accident history?
not sure if thats worth it!
you pay nothing if the other guy is deemed at 100% fault. but yes, you will have a vehicle accident history and thats not worth it if you are going trying to resell your car.
back on topic! hate tailgaters too especially on one lane traffic. whats worst is when it widens up, they cut to your right and try to zoom by you and cut you right off because of parked car or just because they can. what i do is if they are behind me i gradually lift off the gas peddle and if they are back enough i brake it. if i ever hit an area that widens up, i take up the middle and they can suck my exhaust.
Alphamale
11-22-2010, 03:48 PM
dont worry dude.. happens to me so much now i just dont even care anymore
I wouldn't care either if I drove a Korean car.
:troll:
MindBomber
11-22-2010, 04:07 PM
I wouldn't care either if I drove a Korean car.
:troll:
I never really care anymore, unless its something extreme. A semi three meters behind me car was extreme, so I brake checked hard and I'm sure he'll be more conscious of following distance in the future.
Driving a commercial truck is not the same as a car, the likelihood of killing someone in an accident is increase exponentially and thus the responsibility required of the driver does as well. In my opinion, licenses above class 5 should require yearly road tests.
GabAlmighty
11-22-2010, 04:41 PM
My tailgate as a dent in it... More reason to brake check..
netfreak
11-22-2010, 04:50 PM
If I get someone following too closely I drop to 2nd and burn her right up to 6k. Seeing as how my rings and seals are pretty much shot, it is quite effective in smoking out the dumbass behind me. I'm almost hesitant to do my engine swap as it is so hilarious doing this.
spideyv2
11-22-2010, 05:17 PM
yeah it's pretty stupid, but i also cant stand drivers who got 35-40 on a main street when it's clear up a head
For what it's worth, if I notice that someone is in a hurry but is not being an asshole (i.e., they come up fast in the rearview mirror, but don't tailgate me), I will let them overtake on the right on a one lane street when it opens up at a light. No sense in being a douche.
MindBomber
11-22-2010, 08:11 PM
Courteous drivers are great, makes it way easier to drive when someone lets you pass or gives you room to merge.
ok..i don't really like tailgaiting either...but its a major pet peeve when 2 cars are driving right beside each other and the road in front of them is clear..and i can't pass them from the left or right..
I think we need to upgrade our speed limits.
We need to have somethign like this for hwy.
Minimum speed 100km/h on hwy.(drive slower than this and get ticket)
Max speed allowed 100-130km/h.
Anything over 40Km/h of speed limit = Impound/ticket
& most important Keep right unless passing.
But most likely that will never work.. Because vancouver just has horrible drivers... Some people just cant keep pace....
GL driving a minimum of 100km/h during the next few months in the lower mainland :thumbsup:
DasHooch
11-23-2010, 12:04 AM
2 second rule going 100 km/h is 55m. The book actually recommends 3 seconds if you're on the highway, or in a vehicle that stops slower (such as a semi).
I hate tailgaters as well.
I think 3 seconds at city speeds and 5 seconds at highway speeds is more appropriate. Then again, I'm not going to admit what speeds I think those are.
J-Chow
11-23-2010, 01:29 AM
Solution:
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/seney/Instant-Caltrops.jpg
gg. :rofl:
Amuse
11-23-2010, 01:46 AM
I don't like tailgaters.
Here's my solution to send them a message:
What I sometimes do is switch lanes, let them pass me, switch back into my original lane, and tailgate them back.
RevRav
11-23-2010, 01:50 AM
J-Chow, I think I need to steal your pics, and post in the where-can-i-get-this-locally thread :rofl: jk
!e.lo_
11-23-2010, 04:17 AM
fuck, I get tailgated in a elementary school zone/park zone INFRONT of a police station. like, how fucking retarded can people get?
not to mention, single lane traffic, 50km/h limit, and assholes try to overtake me by crossing double solid yellow onto opposing traffic lane. like wow, go hit a damn lamp-post and die so nobody else on the road is at risk.
I absolutely hate right lane tailgaters as well, they don't get that the left lane is for passing so use it, to pass.
i hate people who tailgate especially when there are other cars in front of u so even if the person gets in front they will only be one car ahead so whats the difference....leave earlier
some girl was tailgating me on fraser highway and 156 so i just slowed down to 40 from 70 =] then when she try to pass speed up
or go slow down to speed limit then when light turns yellow go through it and watch the person sit at the red
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-23-2010, 07:12 AM
I wouldn't care either if I drove a Korean car.
:troll:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
MindBomber
11-23-2010, 10:33 AM
I don't like tailgaters.
Here's my solution to send them a message:
What I sometimes do is switch lanes, let them pass me, switch back into my original lane, and tailgate them back.
If you really want to piss them off, while you tailgating them back start taking pictures of their car. It'll trip them out, guaranteed.
OTG-ZR2
11-23-2010, 11:16 AM
I hate getting tailgated at night on the Highway which is 2 lanes and once and a while some asshole will ride my bumper when there is NO ONE else on the road, and the left lane is clear. WTF
i like Alberta (well calgary area) people will move over if u want to pass them and ur both in the fast lane
bloodmack
11-23-2010, 12:09 PM
op needs to pull the tampon out of his ass. Theres always been a tailgating problem, complaining about it isn't going to fix it.
MindBomber
11-23-2010, 01:14 PM
Maybe if people began realizing how dangerous tailgating is, they would start leaving proper following distances. I was almost killed on the highway yesterday by a tailgating semi, people need a reminder how important following distances with winter coming.
Also, I started this thread after a severe road rage incident in the middle of highway 10 where another driver got out of his car and started yelling, because I brake checked. I was venting a bit.
bloodmack
11-23-2010, 01:28 PM
Maybe if people began realizing how dangerous tailgating is, they would start leaving proper following distances. I was almost killed on the highway yesterday by a tailgating semi, people need a reminder how important following distances with winter coming.
Also, I started this thread after a severe road rage incident in the middle of highway 10 where another driver got out of his car and started yelling, because I brake checked. I was venting a bit.
There are always people who dont abide by rules or at least follow a more respectable driving routine. Complaining here on a forum of people who already know how dangerous it is, isn't going to help.
Saying you'll brake check the guy doesn't do anything ethier. If the driver avoids your brake check, they will react and I can tell you now last time I had some prick brake check me he got into an accident with my fist.
MindBomber
11-23-2010, 01:45 PM
Ahh so you like tail gating people and then get upset when your confronted about it lol.
Now I understand why you don't agree with everyone else in this thread.
bloodmack
11-23-2010, 03:49 PM
Ahh so you like tail gating people and then get upset when your confronted about it lol.
Now I understand why you don't agree with everyone else in this thread.
Where did I say I like tailgating? I've had people cut me off and all of a sudden brake check because they're too stupid to realize there wasn't enough room. You need to read posts a little more throughly..
edit: you sure do like that fail button.
MindBomber
11-23-2010, 04:35 PM
You didn't specify the circumstances of someone brake checking you, but this is a thread about tailgating and brake checking tailgaters so one would naturally assume thats what you were referring to. If you had been clear that someone cut you off and then hit the brakes, then I wouldn't have failed your post; I would have pointed out thats another annoying habit some BC drivers seem to have.
Why would you go around failing all my posts, grow up.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-23-2010, 04:50 PM
becuz failing ppl is fun, thanking isnt
1exotic
11-23-2010, 04:53 PM
the message here is,
tailgating people in the right lane is not allowed if they are going the speed limit.
tailgating people in the left lane is always allowed, if you are blocking someone in the left, move the fuck over bitch.
MindBomber
11-23-2010, 04:55 PM
Yes, thank you. That was the point I was trying to make originally.
Failing is more entertaining than thanking I guess, but I don't like having tons of fails for no reason though, maybe I'm to sensitive.
:facepalm:
Amuse
11-23-2010, 11:41 PM
the message here is,
tailgating people in the right lane is not allowed if they are going the speed limit.
I was driving in the right lane from a red light, then I got tailgated, almost got rear ended, and got high-beamed all by the same car. Pissed me off.
JSALES
11-24-2010, 02:27 AM
to be honest, have anyone one of you ever tailgated a car because he/she cut you off? i'm pretty sure some of you have
AzNightmare
11-24-2010, 04:29 AM
the message here is,
tailgating people in the right lane is not allowed if they are going the speed limit.
tailgating people in the left lane is always allowed, if you are blocking someone in the left, move the fuck over bitch.
/end thread.
to be honest, have anyone one of you ever tailgated a car because he/she cut you off? i'm pretty sure some of you have
Used to... but not anymore.
Cause I know they don't give a crap. I know I'm not actually going to hit them. It's dangerous, and my fault if there's an accident.
And many drivers are oblivious anyway to be aware that I'm tailgating them. Of all the times I've tailgated in the past...
I don't recall ever making the person move over or speed up due to tailgating.
and if I was tailgated, I used to downshift and speed up or do brake checks or whatever.
Now, I could care less, because I don't give a crap, I'm pretty sure they're not actually gonna hit me (I don't have a nice car anyway),
I don't get intimidated/excited he wants to challenge me, have more control of my ego, I grew up, etc.
I move over if I can, if not, I continue on with the speed I feel like (which is at or above speed limit)
I'm probably saving his life anyway from him losing control and hitting a tree. He can thank me later.
MindBomber
11-24-2010, 10:45 AM
^If every driver was as mature as you, this would be a far nicer place to live.
What if you brake suddenly but have no real reason to brake and a tailgater hits you? is it still their fault?
cityvanluder
11-24-2010, 03:12 PM
What if you brake suddenly but have no real reason to brake and a tailgater hits you? is it still their fault?
Just say a dog/cat/animal/anything ran out infront of u and u will win they should be far enough behind you to avoid hitting you in such a case.
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cityvanluder
11-24-2010, 03:13 PM
Sry for double rs mobile is fucked
AzNightmare
11-24-2010, 06:22 PM
Yeah I believe the rear ender is always going to be at fault, beacuse you weren't
3 car spaces behind, or whatever it's supposed to be. It's not the tailgater's call
to decided whether the guy in front braked for a legitimate reason or not.
All that matters is the tailgater was too close to give himself enough time to react.
Even in multi vehicle accident, if someone rear ends you, launching your car forward
to rear end the vehicle in front of you, you're responsible for the vehicle in front of you.
Correct me if I'm wrong on that one...
MindBomber
11-24-2010, 06:36 PM
I would always just say I was a little above the speed limit and I tapped my brakes to slow down, I didn't realize there was someone tailgating that close behind me. Dog, cat, kid on the road is a bit harder to prove, because in that case you would likely be slamming on your brakes. Lots of drivers adjust speed by touching their brakes slightly, totally believable.
The multi-vehicle scenario was discussed a few days ago, but no one really knew the exact answer. In my opinion it would be the first person to do the rear end someone would be 100% at fault for all vehicles involved, if your car is being pushed forward how could you be liable. Theres the argument that you stopped to close to the car ahead of you, but a car could be pushed forward a long way depending on how hard your vehicle is hit.
immorality
11-24-2010, 07:17 PM
In those situations I usually just ease up on the gas and let my car slow down naturally. Sooner or later, the douche behind me will switch lanes and pass. I'd hate to have an accident, so doing it gradually works better than breaking.
I have found that if you do that and turn on your hazards, they go around you right away.
MindBomber
11-24-2010, 07:22 PM
Interesting, good trick.
!LittleDragon
11-24-2010, 07:23 PM
I get tailgated so much I don't even care anymore. I let them do what they do... no brake checking for me. However in cases where I have to brake, I brake late and I brake hard. If they're too busy tailgating to notice there's a red light ahead and start slowing down... too bad... cuz I have about 10 feet to go from 40 to 0
Nightwalker
11-24-2010, 07:29 PM
Brake checking is the stupidest shit in the world. I don't know about you guys, but I go out of my way to AVOID accidents. I don't give a crap about who is at fault.
hchang
11-24-2010, 07:48 PM
Brake checking is the stupidest shit in the world. I don't know about you guys, but I go out of my way to AVOID accidents. I don't give a crap about who is at fault.
I believe its stupid because if people are tailgating you, chances are they're not going to be in their best mood, so causing an accident is just going to send them over the edge.
AzNightmare
11-25-2010, 01:51 AM
Well, brake checking is like a form of a "taunt"
It's not like the person braking expects to really get rear ended.
It's still stupid though, only because it doesn't accomplish anything.
Mancini
11-25-2010, 04:26 PM
Legally, the left lane is a passing-only lane. In reality there is no "passing" lane. It's a free for all.
jpark
11-25-2010, 05:02 PM
i had some asshole in a ram truck tailgate me today in maple ridge.. in the heavy snow too, cant stand some douchebags these days
MindBomber
11-25-2010, 05:15 PM
The only thing more annoying than being tailgated by a truck, is when the truck has HIDs so they blind you in the process.
ya, Snow brings out a lot of stupid drivers. I leave plenty of room in front of me, because some of the streets still have snow and my stopping distance is quite a bit longer. But if you tailgate me, I'm not going to brake check, but I will definitely slow down. Sometimes, I'm not in the left lane because I don't want you to pass me, I'm in the left lane because there is still snow on the right lane...
People are idiots; half of them are driving around on all-seasons and don't realize their AWD doesn't help them turn or stop, the other half might have winter tires but still drive around assuming everybody else has winter tires as well.
Got tailed by a white Yaris in the snow this morning.
1. Tailgating in the snow? Really?
2. Yaris, lol
If you are on this forum, white Yaris. You sir, are a class A douchebag.
noTirl
11-25-2010, 08:46 PM
Was driving around downtown today and was tail gated by a hugeass truck for the longest time >.>
Nightwalker
11-25-2010, 10:50 PM
I love how it seems impossible to leave a proper distance between you and the car ahead of you without someone trying to cut in that space.
It may be what helped create a bunch of these tailgaters.
iamon
11-26-2010, 05:49 PM
This fucker in a white van with ontario plates almost rear ended me I had just turned right into the right lane on 2 lane street when this mofo decides to change lanes when he enters the intersection it is pissing rain right now nd I'm already at 50kmh nd he honks high beams nd then pulls beside me to glare at me nd then I'm going to turn left at the next intersection nd this fucker backs up nd wants to fight me
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Amuse
11-26-2010, 06:10 PM
Another thing that pisses me off is when you're lowered and driving slow with a manual in a single lane road with multiple speedbumps and a car is tailgating you while driving an automatic with no concern for the speedbumps.
MindBomber
11-26-2010, 10:47 PM
Idiots who don't know how to drive, like to get upset and try to fight people. Its just stupidity compounding stupidity.
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