[FX35]

I've been using Xetronic 6000K D2S, and frankly they are not the brightest.

Can somebody point to me a brighter brand of D2S bulbs?

If not, I will simply put stock 4300K ones back in.

[nns]

Higher kelvin does not mean more useful light output. I would use OEM 4300k.
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[!Aznboi128]

Phillips 85122+ 4300k will have the best lumens output. What car is this?
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[FX35]

Phillips 85122+ 4300k will have the best lumens output. What car is this?
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FX35, bi-xenon. Stock is pretty good. I went with 6000K for the blue look, now I want more light back.

But I've seen *visually* brighter 6000Ks on the road, so obviously each brand of bulbs produce brighter / dimmer light. I was hoping maybe someone could advise a brighter brand than Xetronic.

[Mancini]

Are you planning on owning one of those cars with disruptively bright, white lights?

[belka]

FX35, bi-xenon. Stock is pretty good. I went with 6000K for the blue look, now I want more light back.

But I've seen *visually* brighter 6000Ks on the road, so obviously each brand of bulbs produce brighter / dimmer light. I was hoping maybe someone could advise a brighter brand than Xetronic.

Put the 4300k's back in, brighter bulbs won't give you more light on the road. I retro'd some FX-R's in a fozzy and the light output is more than enough with the stock 4300k's. You sure your bulb is seated correctly?

[FX35]

Put the 4300k's back in, brighter bulbs won't give you more light on the road. I retro'd some FX-R's in a fozzy and the light output is more than enough with the stock 4300k's. You sure your bulb is seated correctly?

I think they are seated correctly. I can see a sharp, staight cut-off line, and high / low beams work perfectly fine. Just the light is dim.

I am going to put the stock 4300K back in.

[Timpo]

if you want it bright, get 55W or 50W HIDs instead of 35W like conventional ones.

Also, PIAA makes "three stage ballast" that allows you to adjust from 25W-45W.
http://www.piaa.co.jp/products/car/hid/conversion_hid/c_ballast.html

[Phil@rise]

FX35, bi-xenon. Stock is pretty good. I went with 6000K for the blue look, now I want more light back.

But I've seen *visually* brighter 6000Ks on the road, so obviously each brand of bulbs produce brighter / dimmer light. I was hoping maybe someone could advise a brighter brand than Xetronic.

brighter from what view? poorly aimed lights could seem brighter from an oncoming stance. Lenses also affect the light distribution.

[jlenko]

Are you planning on owning one of those cars with disruptively bright, white lights?

FX35 actually has projectors... so not like a fucking idiot putting HID's in a stock reflector housing and blinding everyone on the road.

People who do that to cars should have their hands cut off.

[FX35]

The PIAA D2S replacement is very expensive:

http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=PIA19994/353.0

I am going back to stock. Thanks everyone for helping out.

[!Aznboi128]

Stock would be best. It's not easy to convert oem to 55w so I wouldn't suggest that.

The best you can do is 85122+

Also fx is a higher vehicle the light is spread out wider. If your comparing to civics with hid kit. Yes those kits are brighter as the beam is more focused giving a hot spot in the centre.
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[Shun Izaki]

I'm running OE Philips D2S bulbs off an RX-8 @ 4300K, no problem in heavy rain, or anything, they light up the road well in my retro'd FX35 S50 projectors.

K = Kelvin = Temp, color really (not brightness)

3400-3800 is quite yellow and most people find this annoying (halogen stockies)
4300 is optimal (as per stock for most projectors using D2S)
6K is a bout right to get some blue into your lamp without sacrificing too much brightness
8K is fucking overboard already, losing alotta light output, and for that matter, you're pissing people off.
10K is when you start going purple, and losing like 50%+ light output
11-13K is PIAA style pure purple

[MindBomber]

If your running a garbage set-up with HIDs the stock reflector housing then you will never have good light output.

If you are driving a stock FX35 however, check out the osram D2S bulb Xenarc "cool blue intense" its a new and supposedly the best on the market. http://osram.com/osram_com/News/Trad...e_Intense.html

[godwin]

You want your FX35 to throw more light, you need a new car. The lens on projectors on the FX series are relatively small. The bulbs are not the problem, it is the diameter of the lens. I would say the latest BMW, Volvo, Porsche and RR SUVs have the largest projectors out there.

For 55W HID, you will also need to replace the ballasts to be absolutely reliable; since the amp draw of HID is low, you need the new ballast to truly compensate.

The PIAA D2S replacement is very expensive:

http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=PIA19994/353.0

I am going back to stock. Thanks everyone for helping out.

[dachinesedude]

If your running a garbage set-up with HIDs the stock reflector housing then you will never have good light output.

here we go again

[MindBomber]

here we go again

I swear, I was just trying to tell the OP to install retro-fit projectors since that would improve the light output by focusing the bulb if there in reflector housings. Guess my hatred of HIDs bleed through lol

Edit: didn't look at the OPs username lol

[LuHua]

I swear, I was just trying to tell the OP to install retro-fit projectors since that would improve the light output by focusing the bulb. I guess my hatred of HIDs in a stock reflector housing bleed through...

If you'd only realize that he doesn't need retrofit projectors...

[MindBomber]

nvm

[felixy69]

Phillips 85122+ 4300k will have the best lumens output. What car is this?
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Agree, after much research in the Retro fit world, most ppl would agree that the Phillips 85122 are the brightest bulbs

brighter from what view? poorly aimed lights could seem brighter from an oncoming stance. Lenses also affect the light distribution.

VERY WELL SAID !

FX35 actually has projectors... so not like a fucking idiot putting HID's in a stock reflector housing and blinding everyone on the road.

People who do that to cars should have their hands cut off.

In some headlights, even tho they are projector, but their projector isn't made for Xenon HID use. if u put HID in those projectors.....it is still considered a garbage set up !

Best projectors are TSX Bi-Xenon and S2000 single beam, keep in mind also because of the Canadian Law, these projector lens are sanded, which means they arnt actually clear, but they make clean lens aftermarket so by swapping that u can achieve much better lighting and colour transformation !

check out the link below for more details
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=135&osCsid=2e7a0c06de324593e2152c61d804745f

[nns]

TSX projectors (CL9) weren't bi-xenon. Low-beam only.

I would think LS430 bi-xenon projectors would be the best. I suppose they're too big for most applications.

[Leopold Stotch]

^ to add to that Infiniti M's have really nice projectors. as the housing for the projector emits light too.

i love the way it looks.

[Shun Izaki]

You want your FX35 to throw more light, you need a new car. The lens on projectors on the FX series are relatively small. The bulbs are not the problem, it is the diameter of the lens. I would say the latest BMW, Volvo, Porsche and RR SUVs have the largest projectors out there.

For 55W HID, you will also need to replace the ballasts to be absolutely reliable; since the amp draw of HID is low, you need the new ballast to truly compensate.

durrr my S50 FX35 projectors should be 2.5" last time i checked.... which is also on the larger size of bi-xenon lenses you can get...

[godwin]

That's why they are small.. last gen Hellas were already 3".. current gens are 4" if not larger.

Japanese are a few steps behind the Europeans when it comes to lighting and safety because their philosophy and priorities, eg JDM cars don't typically get to autobahn speeds.

You want the latest and best lighting, always go for the large volume European manufacturers.

durrr my S50 FX35 projectors should be 2.5" last time i checked.... which is also on the larger size of bi-xenon lenses you can get...

[FX35]

Wow this discussion is getting out of control LOL.

I am going back to stock. FX35 has decent size projectors. Maybe I am just getting too tired of this riced up 6000K look.

It makes sense that smaller lenses *probably* project less light. But if that's the case, has anyone noticed that GT-R has REALLY small projector lenses? I didn't measure, but it appears to be 33% smaller than lenses found on typical G / FX / M / Z / Maxima

Now why is that?

And not to go off-topic, if GT-R is Nissan's halo car and for god's sake, commanding a $110,000 price tag, why does it still come with halogen DRLs? I stand to the corrected, but I could swear the yellow-ish reflector housing is meant to be halogen DRLs:

http://www.pulsarmedia.eu/data/media/6/2008_Nissan_GT_R_Headlight_1024x768.jpg

[nns]

And not to go off-topic, if GT-R is Nissan's halo car and for god's sake, commanding a $110,000 price tag, why does it still come with halogen DRLs? I stand to the corrected, but I could swear the yellow-ish reflector housing is meant to be halogen DRLs:

http://www.pulsarmedia.eu/data/media/6/2008_Nissan_GT_R_Headlight_1024x768.jpg

You have officially asked your first stupid question on RS.

BTW, talking about small projectors, look at the first gen 350z.

[FX35]

You have officially asked your first stupid question on RS.

BTW, talking about small projectors, look at the first gen 350z.

Since you are so smart, why not answer my question instead of directing the thread to 2003-2005 350Z.

[HIDoutlet1]

Wow this discussion is getting out of control LOL.

I am going back to stock. FX35 has decent size projectors. Maybe I am just getting too tired of this riced up 6000K look.

It makes sense that smaller lenses *probably* project less light. But if that's the case, has anyone noticed that GT-R has REALLY small projector lenses? I didn't measure, but it appears to be 33% smaller than lenses found on typical G / FX / M / Z / Maxima

Now why is that?

And not to go off-topic, if GT-R is Nissan's halo car and for god's sake, commanding a $110,000 price tag, why does it still come with halogen DRLs? I stand to the corrected, but I could swear the yellow-ish reflector housing is meant to be halogen DRLs:

http://www.pulsarmedia.eu/data/media/6/2008_Nissan_GT_R_Headlight_1024x768.jpg


We carry Optix D2 5k or 6k, 8k bulb, they are offering brightest out put if you compare them with other brands of D2 bulbs. Come try it out, we also have 85122+, you can compare both bulbs here in our shop.

[nns]

Since you are so smart, why not answer my question instead of directing the thread to 2003-2005 350Z.

The Nissan engineers probably thought to themselves, "We're not going to waste our time on some stupid detail like what type of device is used for DRLs", and went back to smashing Porsche lap times.

It's a freaking light bulb. Who the hell cares about that? The GTR is not meant to be known for what type of bulbs it uses. :rolleyes: That's why your question is so stupid. Even worse, you don't realize how stupid it is.

And BTW, you're the one who "directed" the thread to a discussion about projector size.

It makes sense that smaller lenses *probably* project less light. But if that's the case, has anyone noticed that GT-R has REALLY small projector lenses? I didn't measure, but it appears to be 33% smaller than lenses found on typical G / FX / M / Z / Maxima

[Shun Izaki]

That's why they are small.. last gen Hellas were already 3".. current gens are 4" if not larger.

Japanese are a few steps behind the Europeans when it comes to lighting and safety because their philosophy and priorities, eg JDM cars don't typically get to autobahn speeds.

You want the latest and best lighting, always go for the large volume European manufacturers.

You try retroing 3" or bigger into a DC5 housing and tell me different. :D

[RabidRat]

If you're okay with getting new ballasts, you can run 55W HID bulbs, as opposed to your old 35W's. They'll be massively brighter - there are threads on this on s2ki, I'm sure there will be more information on this on your own forum.

The complete ballast and bulb kits are surprisingly inexpensive. Take a look on Ebay.

[FX35]

The Nissan engineers probably thought to themselves, "We're not going to waste our time on some stupid detail like what type of device is used for DRLs", and went back to smashing Porsche lap times.

It's a freaking light bulb. Who the hell cares about that? The GTR is not meant to be known for what type of bulbs it uses. :rolleyes: That's why your question is so stupid. Even worse, you don't realize how stupid it is.

And BTW, you're the one who "directed" the thread to a discussion about projector size.


I've been warned about the amount of jerks on RS prior to posting here, and boy, I think I've just met the 1st example LOL.

My question was legit - a halo car of an automaker should be the fastest / most luxury / technically advanced model. We all know the GT-R is feared for its capability of kilingl supper cars. But I was still hoping to see more modernized design elements such as LED turn signals and LED DRLs instead of cad / halogens.

If YOUR philosophy stands, why don't we see halogen reflectors on 458, or even 430?

If you don't have an answer to my question - which clearly, you don't, why not go away instead of trashing people's thread? This kind of act only makes you look like a 16 year old noob.

I don't know which is more sad: 1) Nissan tacking on LED strips onto GT-Rs front bumper, or 2) you sir taking my question to another completely different topic while demonstrating to everyone else on the forum how much of a loser you are.

[FX35]

We carry Optix D2 5k or 6k, 8k bulb, they are offering brightest out put if you compare them with other brands of D2 bulbs. Come try it out, we also have 85122+, you can compare both bulbs here in our shop.

Thanks man. I happen to be closeby to Crystal, and will swing by one day to see the difference.

[FX35]

The Nissan engineers probably thought to themselves, "We're not going to waste our time on some stupid detail like what type of device is used for DRLs", and went back to smashing Porsche lap times.

It's a freaking light bulb. Who the hell cares about that? The GTR is not meant to be known for what type of bulbs it uses. :rolleyes: That's why your question is so stupid. Even worse, you don't realize how stupid it is.

And BTW, you're the one who "directed" the thread to a discussion about projector size.

I just re-read your post and laughed.

My thread IS about lighting and projectors. How is that a re-direction???

You are the one that started bashing me for asking lightbulb questions on a GT-R, since GT-R is so fast!!!!!!111!.

YES, we all know that, you moron.

ROFL.

[nns]

Man, you are so right. Nissan must be crying themselves to sleep every night wondering why didn't they just play monkey-see-monkey-do with Ferrari and put a bunch of LEDs all over the place.

Of all the things they got right, you decided to make a small detail a big issue. But hey, if LED DRL's are the only thing stopping you from buying a GTR, a Ferrari, a rocketship, then I sure hope they get that on there ASAP. Good luck.

[angus]

The crappy light output of the FX is a problem that has been acknowledged in the FX forums, I have gone back to 4300k in mine and I am tempted to try a 55W ballast to see of it gets better, in the meantime I have replaced the OEM fogs with PIAA 1000's with 55W HID and that has really helped, it was just plain dangerous before, I was driving on the upper levels in the rain a few weeks ago and could not see a thing - that was the last straw.

Am I the only one who finds that HID in a reflector housing actually provides MORE light???

[FX35]

Man, you are so right. Nissan must be crying themselves to sleep every night wondering why didn't they just play monkey-see-monkey-do with Ferrari and put a bunch of LEDs all over the place.

Of all the things they got right, you decided to make a small detail a big issue. But hey, if LED DRL's are the only thing stopping you from buying a GTR, a Ferrari, a rocketship, then I sure hope they get that on there ASAP. Good luck.


ROLF!

You sir need to get a life. Or get laid.

#1 Did I say I was going to buy a GT-R / prancing pony?

#2 Did I say I anything about GT-R's performance?

What you GT-R fanboi or something? Hahaha!


If you have nothing constructive to say, which you don't, why not go troll in a GT-R thread instead of running your mouth in my light thread.

[FX35]

The crappy light output of the FX is a problem that has been acknowledged in the FX forums, I have gone back to 4300k in mine and I am tempted to try a 55W ballast to see of it gets better, in the meantime I have replaced the OEM fogs with PIAA 1000's with 55W HID and that has really helped, it was just plain dangerous before, I was driving on the upper levels in the rain a few weeks ago and could not see a thing - that was the last straw.

Am I the only one who finds that HID in a reflector housing actually provides MORE light???


I wouldn't say reflector + HID provides MORE light. That appear to the be the case, because reflector housing casts lights EVERYWHERE, instead of a concentrated straight beam.

I am strongly against using HID kits in conjunction with reflector housing, especially in the trucks. And unfortunately, 90% of the trucks I see tend to have these. AND they like to tailgate, amplifying the undesireable blinding effect.

[angus]

I wouldn't say reflector + HID provides MORE light. That appear to the be the case, because reflector housing casts lights EVERYWHERE, instead of a concentrated straight beam.

I am strongly against using HID kits in conjunction with reflector housing, especially in the trucks. And unfortunately, 90% of the trucks I see tend to have these. AND they like to tailgate, amplifying the undesireable blinding effect.

What about all the cars with factory HID in a reflector housing?

[jlenko]

What about all the cars with factory HID in a reflector housing?

Ok, name one?

HID's only come stock with a projector housing.

[RabidRat]

Ok, name one?

HID's only come stock with a projector housing.

I think the IS300 did, and older TL's RL's and CL's?

[124Y]

^ Also older gen Maximas, G35s, and Escalades. I'm sure there are a few others as well.

[jlenko]

Alright, I deserve a self-fail on that one. I actually found a few more when I looked a little harder... but apparently those cars aren't your typical halogen reflector housing, or they use a shielded xenon bulb (first time I've seen those.. pretty cool actually..).

Older TL's, older G35's, Lincoln navigators, older Cadillacs, etc. use HID reflectors, not halogen reflectors. They are not the same design, which is why they pass DOT specs and are LEGAL

But never did a Civic come with HID reflectors... so I still flame on those shops that install HIDs in them. Fuck you!

[angus]

Alright, I deserve a self-fail on that one. I actually found a few more when I looked a little harder... but apparently those cars aren't your typical halogen reflector housing, or they use a shielded xenon bulb (first time I've seen those.. pretty cool actually..).



But never did a Civic come with HID reflectors... so I still flame on those shops that install HIDs in them. Fuck you!

OK, fuck me, but at least I can see at night.

[jlenko]

OK, fuck me, but at least I can see at night.

At least you can... I can't anymore, because you blinded me.

[Anjew]

^ lolz

anyways i'm using a 5000k 55w DDM tuning hid kit in s2000 projectors.... hella fucken bright with a sharp cutoff. ddm tuning is so cheap i just went ahead and bought 2 sets... its been over a year already and i'm still on the first set.

[godwin]

The D2R is the HID bulbs that are designed for HID reflector and glass defusers. Mercedes was one of the early Bosch adopters.

Another issue with retrofits is since the original plastics are typically not designed for the amount of UV the HID throws out. They are prone to cracking and yellowing.

Ok, name one?

HID's only come stock with a projector housing.

[threezero]

I recently install the morimoto 6000k bulb for my fx it is alot brighter than ricer bulbs nd if u know where to go it only cost around $35 shipped.
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[wasabisashimi]

FX35 actually has projectors... so not like a fucking idiot putting HID's in a stock reflector housing and blinding everyone on the road.

People who do that to cars should have their hands cut off.

if they make cutting hands off legal, there will be alot of detached hands in langley/abbotsford area