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A great read for all post-secondary students
illicitstylz
12-12-2010, 08:22 AM
Stumbled across this on RFD, was a good read and definitely something we should all take into account for with our years spent in university. Hope it's not a repost as it is a relatively older blog posting.
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Dear Class of 2010,
This will be my last entry written specifically for you; beginning with the launch of our new site in early September, I'll begin focusing on the future class of 2011. I hope that you guys won't be strangers; stay in touch either in person (come visit us!) or online (please drop by the blogs from time to time and say hi).
As you begin your college experience, and I prepare for my 10-year college reunion, I thought I'd leave you with the things that, in retrospect, I think are important as you navigate the next four years. I hope that some of them are helpful.
Here goes...
1. Your friends will change a lot over the next four years. Let them.
2. Call someone you love back home a few times a week, even if just for a few minutes.
3. In college more than ever before, songs will attach themselves to memories. Every month or two, make a mix cd, mp3 folder, whatever - just make sure you keep copies of these songs. Ten years out, they'll be as effective as a journal in taking you back to your favorite moments.
4. Take naps in the middle of the afternoon with reckless abandon.
5. Adjust your schedule around when you are most productive and creative. If you're nocturnal and do your best work late at night, embrace that. It may be the only time in your life when you can.
6. If you write your best papers the night before they are due, don't let people tell you that you "should be more organized" or that you "should plan better." Different things work for different people. Personally, I worked best under pressure - so I always procrastinated... and always kicked ass (which annoyed my friends to no end). ;-) Use the freedom that comes with not having grades first semester to experiment and see what works best for you.
7. At least a few times in your college career, do something fun and irresponsible when you should be studying. The night before my freshman year psych final, my roommate somehow scored front row seats to the Indigo Girls at a venue 2 hours away. I didn't do so well on the final, but I haven't thought about psych since 1993. I've thought about the experience of going to that show (with the guy who is now my son's godfather) at least once a month ever since.
8. Become friends with your favorite professors. Recognize that they can learn from you too - in fact, that's part of the reason they chose to be professors.
9. Carve out an hour every single day to be alone. (Sleeping doesn't count.)
10. Go on dates. Don't feel like every date has to turn into a relationship.
11. Don't date someone your roommate has been in a relationship with.
12. When your friends' parents visit, include them. You'll get free food, etc., and you'll help them to feel like they're cool, hangin' with the hip college kids.
13. In the first month of college, send a hand-written letter to someone who made college possible for you and describe your adventures thus far. It will mean a lot to him/her now, and it will mean a lot to you in ten years when he/she shows it to you.
14. Embrace the differences between you and your classmates. Always be asking yourself, "what can I learn from this person?" More of your education will come from this than from any classroom.
15. All-nighters are entirely overrated.
16. For those of you who have come to college in a long-distance relationship with someone from high school: despite what many will tell you, it can work. The key is to not let your relationship interfere with your college experience. If you don't want to date anyone else, that's totally fine! What's not fine, however, is missing out on a lot of defining experiences because you're on the phone with your boyfriend/girlfriend for three hours every day.
17. Working things out between friends is best done in person, not over email. (IM does not count as "in person.") Often someone's facial expressions will tell you more than his/her words.
18. Take risks.
19. Don't be afraid of (or excited by) the co-ed bathrooms. The thrill is over in about 2 seconds.
20. Wednesday is the middle of the week; therefore on wednesday night the week is more than half over. You should celebrate accordingly. (It makes thursday and friday a lot more fun.)
21. Welcome failure into your lives. It's how we grow. What matters is not that you failed, but that you recovered.
22. Take some classes that have nothing to do with your major(s), purely for the fun of it.
23. It's important to think about the future, but it's more important to be present in the now. You won't get the most out of college if you think of it as a stepping stone.
24. When you're living on a college campus with 400 things going on every second of every day, watching TV is pretty much a waste of your time and a waste of your parents' money. If you're going to watch, watch with friends so at least you can call it a "valuable social experience."
25. Don't be afraid to fall in love. When it happens, don't take it for granted. Celebrate it, but don't let it define your college experience.
26. Much of the time you once had for pleasure reading is going to disappear. Keep a list of the books you would have read had you had the time, so that you can start reading them when you graduate.
27. Things that seem like the end of the world really do become funny with a little time and distance. Knowing this, forget the embarassment and skip to the good part.
28. Every once in awhile, there will come an especially powerful moment when you can actually feel that an experience has changed who you are. Embrace these, even if they are painful.
29. No matter what your political or religious beliefs, be open-minded. You're going to be challenged over the next four years in ways you can't imagine, across all fronts. You can't learn if you're closed off.
30. If you need to get a job, find something that you actually enjoy. Just because it's work doesn't mean it has to suck.
31. Don't always lead. It's good to follow sometimes.
32. Take a lot of pictures. One of my major regrets in life is that I didn't take more pictures in college. My excuse was the cost of film and processing. Digital cameras are cheap and you have plenty of hard drive space, so you have no excuse.
33. Your health and safety are more important than anything.
34. Ask for help. Often.
35. Half of you will be in the bottom half of your class at any given moment. Way more than half of you will be in the bottom half of your class at some point in the next four years. Get used to it.
36. In ten years very few of you will look as good as you do right now, so secretly revel in how hot you are before it's too late.
37. In the long run, where you go to college doesn't matter as much as what you do with the opportunities you're given there. The MIT name on your resume won't mean much if that's the only thing on your resume. As a student here, you will have access to a variety of unique opportunities that no one else will ever have - don't waste them.
38. On the flip side, don't try to do everything. Balance = well-being.
39. Make perspective a priority. If you're too close to something to have good perspective, rely on your friends to help you.
40. Eat badly sometimes. It's the last time in your life when you can do this without feeling guilty about it.
41. Make a complete ass of yourself at least once, preferably more. It builds character.
42. Wash your sheets more than once a year. Trust me on this one.
43. If you are in a relationship and none of your friends want to hang out with you and your significant other, pay attention. They usually know better than you do.
44. Don't be afraid of the weird pizza topping combinations that your new friend from across the country loves. Some of the truly awful ones actually taste pretty good. Expand your horizons.
45. Explore the campus thoroughly. Don't get caught.
46. Life is too short to stick with a course of study that you're no longer excited about. Switch, even if it complicates things.
47. Tattoos are permanent. Be very certain.
48. Don't make fun of prefrosh. That was you like 2 hours ago.
49. Enjoy every second of the next four years. It is impossible to describe how quickly they pass.
50. This is the only time in your lives when your only real responsibility is to learn. Try to remember how lucky you are every day.
Be yourself. Create. Inspire, and be inspired. Grow. Laugh. Learn. Love.
Welcome to some of the best years of your lives.
Many of those things are so true.................. .
People say, what's the point of post secondary. All you get is a piece of paper. It doesn't help you get a job. It's a waste of time. Yada, yada, yada............. Bullshit. That piece of paper shows people in the know, that you have survived all the bullshit and have experienced all of the things listed above. I loved every minute of it. I even went back and loved it more.
LiquidTurbo
12-12-2010, 09:11 AM
Many of those things are so true.................. .
People say, what's the point of post secondary. All you get is a piece of paper. It doesn't help you get a job.It's a waste of time. Yada, yada, yada............. Bullshit. That piece of paper shows people in the know, that you have survived all the bullshit and have experienced all of the things listed above. I loved every minute of it. I even went back and loved it more.
True, bro.
Culture_Vulture
12-12-2010, 09:16 AM
Many of those things are so true.................. .
People say, what's the point of post secondary. All you get is a piece of paper. It doesn't help you get a job. It's a waste of time. Yada, yada, yada............. Bullshit. That piece of paper shows people in the know, that you have survived all the bullshit and have experienced all of the things listed above. I loved every minute of it. I even went back and loved it more.
agreed, im still in college now and thankfully i realized early on that going to college isnt just about finding a job with an otherwise worthless piece of paper, its really about finding yourself.
I feel sorry for all of my friends who still think otherwise.
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Alphamale
12-12-2010, 09:26 AM
Not necessarily true, bro.
Reading comprehension fail.
tonyzoomzoom
12-12-2010, 09:36 AM
Many of those things are so true.................. .
People say, what's the point of post secondary. All you get is a piece of paper. It doesn't help you get a job. It's a waste of time. Yada, yada, yada............. Bullshit. That piece of paper shows people in the know, that you have survived all the bullshit and have experienced all of the things listed above. I loved every minute of it. I even went back and loved it more.
Totally true. Rather than worry about marks / scores on exams, I actually "learnt" the second time around. It was a much better experience :)
truth
12-12-2010, 09:44 AM
it's amazing how some people go through university and still don't learn how to socially interact with others since all they focused on were grades
LiquidTurbo
12-12-2010, 09:45 AM
Basically the ones that didn't say they had a goodtime probably failed out, or didn't bother to engage themselves in the experience. I'd do 2 degrees if I could, but it's just not practical to spend that many years in school for me.
LOL at number 8.
I remember the time I got kicked out of class when I told the prof that she was full of it and I was sick and tired of the bullshit. The class was in shock as I swore at her. From that day on, the faculty treated me with respect. Funny part was, later on I got hired by that same prof to do summer research for a project of hers. I got to know so many of my profs on a personal basis during my stay at UBC.
I'm looking forward to my senior days, when I can go take courses for free. Hopefully, free courses for seniors will still be around.
twitchyzero
12-12-2010, 10:12 AM
half of those only apply if you moved away for school which isn't the majority for canadian students..but great read.
I always wanted to try #7...should've done it in 1st year.
insomniac
12-12-2010, 10:48 AM
Wow great read as I'm heading in there next year lol
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BNR32_Coupe
12-12-2010, 01:49 PM
wow, that's pretty emotional. now get back to b.law 101, those finals aren;t going to study for themselves
Greenstoner
12-12-2010, 02:29 PM
I wish I went to university
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Infiniti
12-12-2010, 03:20 PM
^never too late...
dachinesedude
12-12-2010, 03:37 PM
sadly, i cant relate to most of those, never lived on campus so university was never "an experience", it was just school....go to class, leave class, go home
m!chael
12-12-2010, 04:38 PM
sadly, i cant relate to most of those, never lived on campus so university was never "an experience", it was just school....go to class, leave class, go home
That's the same excuse I used to give myself in first year. Good thing I smartened up in second year and actually started getting the university experience. Now that I'm in my fourth year I'm sad to be finishing up. Years from now when I look back at my university years I'm pretty sure I'm gonna remember the time I fucked a chick in the library, or came to class still drunk from an all nighter of partying and hooking up to give a presentation and having to run to the bathroom to puke mid class, etc. I doubt I'll remember first year english or math.
Legit article btw, thanks.
SkunkWorks
12-12-2010, 05:18 PM
sadly, i cant relate to most of those, never lived on campus so university was never "an experience", it was just school....go to class, leave class, go home
That's bullshit. I honestly thought the same way in 1st year but realistically, let yourself go, take risks, have some fun and get involved. If you embrace it, it'll repay you tenfold.
That said, it'll be a while till I graduate but fuck it, I couldn't be happier.
Ulic Qel-Droma
12-12-2010, 05:27 PM
all i can say, real life starts after university.
if u do all the above, awesome, you had a great time, if you don't whatever.
don't bank the greatest times of your years around school. work hard. go make baller bucks.
lol you'll reap the rewards after. who says 30 is old? lol. your campus will be the world, your classmates, people from all over, and women? lol. you'll have them at your feet.
money! (and school sorta).
TheKingdom2000
12-12-2010, 05:49 PM
Many of those things are so true.................. .
People say, what's the point of post secondary. All you get is a piece of paper. It doesn't help you get a job. It's a waste of time. Yada, yada, yada............. Bullshit. That piece of paper shows people in the know, that you have survived all the bullshit and have experienced all of the things listed above. I loved every minute of it. I even went back and loved it more.
unless it's an arts degree :spin:
unless it's an arts degree :spin:
Bwahahahaha..................... artsy fartsies, we used to call them.
TheKingdom2000
12-12-2010, 07:27 PM
can someone clarify...
my friend told me that a BA with honours only means a 4 year degree and not a degree with a high GPA?
is that true? i tried the old google, but i found that it actually did mean a high GPA and there were a couple posts about the four year thing?
Does anyone know?
sadly, i cant relate to most of those, never lived on campus so university was never "an experience", it was just school....go to class, leave class, go home
that was true for me first two years of university...until i realized that the money we pay for isn't just for the classes but the entire experience as a whole. so i joined some clubs and made a lot friends, went to conferences and met even more people. you may not know it, but these experiences and connections that you make in university may actually be useful for you in the future. Even if it isn't helpful, who cares? i had a ton of fun :D
jackmeister
12-12-2010, 07:43 PM
can someone clarify...
my friend told me that a BA with honours only means a 4 year degree and not a degree with a high GPA?
is that true? i tried the old google, but i found that it actually did mean a high GPA and there were a couple posts about the four year thing?
Does anyone know?
If I remember correctly, at UBC Econ, the difference between regular and honours Econ is just the difference in credits required and some courses that are open to Honour students only. Is that correct? Graduating with honours is when you graduate with high GPA but I know that applies to Sauder but not sure about other faculties
wouwou
12-12-2010, 08:08 PM
can someone clarify...
my friend told me that a BA with honours only means a 4 year degree and not a degree with a high GPA?
is that true? i tried the old google, but i found that it actually did mean a high GPA and there were a couple posts about the four year thing?
Does anyone know?
SFU Honor means a high GPA of min. A- and 20 extra credits.
As of 4 years ago, that is.
Ferra
12-12-2010, 08:23 PM
i swear time goes 10x faster after you graduated from school...:(
There are always so much things going on and happening in school.... you are surrounded by friends, and there are plenty of dramas and things happening every day.
After university, work and everything in your life just seem the same every fucking day...years go by without you even realizing it.
wouwou
12-12-2010, 11:17 PM
i swear time goes 10x faster after you graduated from school...:(
There are always so much things going on and happening in school.... you are surrounded by friends, and there are plenty of dramas and things happening every day.
After university, work and everything in your life just seem the same every fucking day...years go by without you even realizing it.
well you obviously didnt went to SFU lol
the most dramatic thing in West Mall was a Chinese student getting a B+ instead of a A-
invader
12-12-2010, 11:58 PM
fuck im graduating at end of this month :/
RFlush
12-13-2010, 12:09 AM
That list may be true, but it probably applies mostly to US schools as oppose to schools in Vancouver. Although I cannot speak on behalf of all schools in Van, I went to SFU and lived on campus and it was still a shit school. It is a commuter school for most, and the friends you did meet would never stay after school, it was a rush to get off the mountain. There was no school spirit, the clubs were pretty much all shit, and the whole environment was crappy. If there was more of a "city", then maybe SFU could of been better. But with limited choices to eat, and limited choices to do things after school hours (all the shops are pretty much closed) why would anyone stay on campus unless to study?
tl:dr version: SFU was shitty.
Yeah, SFU is pretty lame compared to UBC. And I went to both and have kids who go to SFU right now. My daughter wants to punch me in the face and calls me a typical UBC snob every time I say SFU sucks. Hee hee.
fuck im graduating at end of this month :/
Congrats.
RacingMetro92
12-13-2010, 12:45 AM
SFU is pretty lame, nothing up on that mountain, and the new Woodwards development, though nice and a step in the right direction, still doesn't make up for the somewhat empty social life up there.
You have to get off the mountain to hang out and do something, unless you think studying somewhere, or overpaying for food is fun.
I'm kind of lucky I got into a club (CAC)as an executive and I'm still in my first year, I made more friends in a week than I did in my first two right after getting into the club. I'm pretty much an exec for the time I'm here, and the experience so far has been awesome.
It's definitely about the experience, and UBC has the upper hand compared to SFU for sure. I want to relish in the university experience because it is more about finding who you are and what direction you want to go in life. Those who just go to school and come back home burnt about 4 years of their life.
Glad i checked this thread. You guys really make a 18 year old think twice about living.
3klipze
12-13-2010, 01:26 AM
^ agreed xD
MindBomber
12-13-2010, 01:33 AM
Glad i checked this thread. You guys really make a 18 year old think twice about living.
I'm only 22 and I wish I'd read this thread when I was your age, you'll change more in the next four years than the rest of your life combined. At least thats the way I feel now.
palepilsenpin0y
12-13-2010, 01:41 AM
I'm just a 2nd year student @ UBC and this article made me go "HOLY SHIT YEAH!" and "holy shit... yeah... :("
In hindsight I really wished I had moved away for school but of course when you're 18 and you've lived here your whole life, it's hard to leave everything behind.
Yeah, SFU is pretty lame compared to UBC. And I went to both and have kids who go to SFU right now. My daughter wants to punch me in the face and calls me a typical UBC snob every time I say SFU sucks. Hee hee.
lol i've been to both as well. currently in my 3rd year at SFU right now...and i gotta say SFU is seriously lacking in the university atmosphere that people are expecting unlike UBC. The grey walls just makes me feel like I'm in a prison haha... At UBC I actually WANTED to stay behind and study, just because everybody else did. And studying with someone is always better than studying alone lol. However, UBC is much more competitive both academically and also in its extracurricular clubs and activities as well, especially if you're in the business faculty. I guess it's something to get used to since everything is going to be competitive after you graduate. But after transferring to SFU I felt much more relaxed since I didn't have to compete as hard. I joined AIESEC this year and went to a conference where I got to meet people from school in all of western Canada, and also the partying was awesome:D. There's a lot to learn other than the books you read and the lectures that profs give. Bottom line is, if you want to experience even a bit of the university life that people are at UBC have, go join some clubs or go to faculty events. They will definitely help you advance in you line of study and also also change up the boring routine of going to school then going home right after.
Culture_Vulture
12-13-2010, 04:31 AM
lol i've been to both as well. currently in my 3rd year at SFU right now...and i gotta say SFU is seriously lacking in the university atmosphere that people are expecting unlike UBC. The grey walls just makes me feel like I'm in a prison haha... At UBC I actually WANTED to stay behind and study, just because everybody else did. And studying with someone is always better than studying alone lol. However, UBC is much more competitive both academically and also in its extracurricular clubs and activities as well, especially if you're in the business faculty. I guess it's something to get used to since everything is going to be competitive after you graduate. But after transferring to SFU I felt much more relaxed since I didn't have to compete as hard. I joined AIESEC this year and went to a conference where I got to meet people from school in all of western Canada, and also the partying was awesome:D. There's a lot to learn other than the books you read and the lectures that profs give. Bottom line is, if you want to experience even a bit of the university life that people are at UBC have, go join some clubs or go to faculty events. They will definitely help you advance in you line of study and also also change up the boring routine of going to school then going home right after.
SFU is complete bullshit in its academic competition.
My first two years at SFU were a complete bore.
Same shit different day. Every semester, it's the same thing. Shitty atmosphere created by tons of kids who are unmotivated, stupid unproductive clubs that are a dime a dozen, and people carrying laptops (now fucking ipads) to class every day just so they can sit in the back row and surf the internet.
I'm glad I did college transfer credits. Of all things, I would never have expected Douglas College to challenge me more than SFU did. Most (not all, of course) of the kids up at SFU really take it for granted. For the amount of tuition paid, most of these people don't get any significant social experiences, and probably even less gain any valuable academic experiences.
If you want to replay recorded lectures at most colleges, you'd have to go out and buy your own fucking recorder and do it yourself. And even then, it's often against school policy. At SFU (and UBC), you can download and listen to lectures online. For free. Of course, most SFU students take this for granted. And recorded lectures have to be the most dreaded things to listen to in the world. But it really does go to show the academic environment SFU has to offer.
Not to mention it gets one month of awesome weather every year to compensate for the other 11 shitty months you have to put up with.
I grew more in my first semester at college than I did in the preceding year and a half at SFU.
jstn86
12-13-2010, 06:07 AM
I'm probably a minority here for if there are any grade 11's or 12's that are reading this thread, I suggest you look for schools in Eastern Canada.
I regret not going to UBC sometimes. Most of my close highschool friends went to UBC and it felt like I was missing out on all the fun. But you have to realize, if you just open your mind tiny bit, you can meet fantastic people everywhere.
It's life and people live and work and study anywhere. Sure the weather is terrible and some Torontonians are snobby as hell but I did make some fantastic friends in Ontario.
Don't limit yourself to your home and your family. Living by yourself far away really awakens you and you learn to appreciate the things you had.
Good luck!
Jassanova
12-13-2010, 06:20 AM
I did my undergrad at UBC and my law degree outside of BC and while the list applied to both of my degrees, it definitely hit home with my law school experience which was a lot more like a US college experience because of having to leave the comfort of home and a city I knew.
If anyone I know is planning to do two degrees, I always encourage them to get their second degree away from Vancouver.
It's all about a balance. Work hard and play hard. If you can maintain good grades from 1st year onwards, and you make time to socialize and join different clubs - attend their club events/snowboard trips, join intramural teams, and hit up the Pit Pub on a Wednesday night, you'll have a great experience.
Mizter
12-13-2010, 06:42 AM
I'm probably a minority here for if there are any grade 11's or 12's that are reading this thread, I suggest you look for schools in Eastern Canada.
I regret not going to UBC sometimes. Most of my close highschool friends went to UBC and it felt like I was missing out on all the fun. But you have to realize, if you just open your mind tiny bit, you can meet fantastic people everywhere.
It's life and people live and work and study anywhere. Sure the weather is terrible and some Torontonians are snobby as hell but I did make some fantastic friends in Ontario.
Don't limit yourself to your home and your family. Living by yourself far away really awakens you and you learn to appreciate the things you had.
Good luck!
+1
Living away from home and doing everything for yourself is an experience of its own. Definitely agree with the shitty weather..
jstn86
12-13-2010, 07:09 AM
+1
Living away from home and doing everything for yourself is an experience of its own. Definitely agree with the shitty weather..
werd. people complain about vancouver rain. lol try -15 plus windchill of -25. you will be praying for some mild rain. haha
also, to add just a bit more, don't be afraid of being away from your high school friends. you can make friends ANYWHERE. If they are your true friends, you can be away from each other and still keep in touch regularly, and when you come back for holidays, they will still be there.
I still have friends in Vancouver that I don't see for over a year and when I'm back, it's as if I never left.
If you feel that things get awkward because of the gap, then they may not be the best friends you thought you had.
I was skeptical of Ontario. "Torontonians are think they are the centre of the universe" "Ontario people are snobby" "They are all asshole" "Leafs suck" (true) but have an open mind, accept them for who they are.
I've made lots of friends who grew up in Ontario and they are always envious of the fact that I'm from Vancouver. Not all Torontonians are assholes. Haha.
RFlush
12-13-2010, 08:16 AM
Oh to add to that, the best time at university was going to two different exchanges. One to South Korea and one to HK. The best was that I was on full scholarship for South Korea and for HK I was able to get over $4000 in bursary and grants.
taylor192
12-13-2010, 08:16 AM
6. If you write your best papers the night before they are due, don't let people tell you that you "should be more organized" or that you "should plan better." Different things work for different people. Personally, I worked best under pressure - so I always procrastinated... and always kicked ass (which annoyed my friends to no end). ;-) Use the freedom that comes with not having grades first semester to experiment and see what works best for you.
This is bad advice.
Shit happens and you must be prepared: like failed hard drives, random threesomes with the girls down the hall, Canucks playoffs win, power outage, ...
Most times if you wait till last minute you'll be OK, yet it only takes one time to be royally fucked. Considering many classes have cascading prerequisites, fucking up one class cause 2 drunk girls stumbled into your room half-naked can literally fuck you for the next 4 years.
26. Much of the time you once had for pleasure reading is going to disappear. Keep a list of the books you would have read had you had the time, so that you can start reading them when you graduate.
So true!
4. Take naps in the middle of the afternoon with reckless abandon.
I miss attending class, I had the best naps during engineering lectures.
StaxBundlez
12-13-2010, 10:24 AM
great read. one of the best in a little while. mainly because schools been so rough lately. lol
ilvtofu
12-13-2010, 10:50 AM
SFU surrey is a completely different story. My GF has been there only a term and she has a group of very close friends already. Their class sizes are a lot smaller and heck they're above a mall...
Sometimes I wish I could attend classes there instead lol, SFU burnaby is pretty depressing lol
Does anyone know the requirements to get into UVIC? and if they have a nursing program?
sorry I just dont think i should make a thread for this question
Meowjin
12-13-2010, 12:21 PM
Does anyone know the requirements to get into UVIC? and if they have a nursing program?
sorry I just dont think i should make a thread for this question
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&expIds=17259,24999,27814&xhr=t&q=uvic+nursing&cp=7&pf=p&sclient=psy&site=&source=hp&aq=0&aqi=g4g-o1&aql=&oq=uvic+nu&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=ccee95fca5e183dd
^Ill thank you when I can :)
drunkrussian
12-13-2010, 02:30 PM
even if you weren't really a socialite in college and just went for the "piece of paper",
(a) there's no chance in hell you'd get a decent job without that "piece of paper"
(b) college teaches you to speak and interact with people - presentation and self-marketing skills are as important as anything else you learn
(c) you still make new friends. I didn't take in the experience as much as a lotta people but i still met a lotta close friends who have become bff's
(d) where else would you have a chance to have a free afternoon, or nap in the day, or only have classes 2-3 days a week (in sfu at least) and have a long summer vacation year year?
Dentz
12-13-2010, 03:03 PM
Does anyone know the requirements to get into UVIC? and if they have a nursing program?
sorry I just dont think i should make a thread for this question
FYI, UVic is somewhat similar to SFU. Definitely not as drab, but I've found it to be lacking in the school spirit at times. It's nothing compared to UBC.
SFU surrey is a completely different story. My GF has been there only a term and she has a group of very close friends already. Their class sizes are a lot smaller and heck they're above a mall...
Sometimes I wish I could attend classes there instead lol, SFU burnaby is pretty depressing lol
Somewhat true, but SFU Surrey has its bad points, too.
wouwou
12-13-2010, 05:27 PM
This is bad advice.
Shit happens and you must be prepared: like failed hard drives, random threesomes with the girls down the hall, Canucks playoffs win, power outage, ...
Most times if you wait till last minute you'll be OK, yet it only takes one time to be royally fucked. Considering many classes have cascading prerequisites, fucking up one class cause 2 drunk girls stumbled into your room half-naked can literally fuck you for the next 4 years.
So true!
I miss attending class, I had the best naps during engineering lectures.
note to self: do the paper to have random threesome.
Culture_Vulture
12-13-2010, 06:06 PM
SFU surrey is a completely different story. My GF has been there only a term and she has a group of very close friends already. Their class sizes are a lot smaller and heck they're above a mall...
Sometimes I wish I could attend classes there instead lol, SFU burnaby is pretty depressing lol
I can never justify going to SFU Surrey.
To me, there's the (supposed, anyways) university experience, and then there's the college experience. And then there's the adult school experience, which is where SFU Surrey falls under.
I can't believe anybody seriously considers paying $6-800 per course for tuition to sit on top of a fucking mall in between Surrey Central and the middle of buttfuck nowhere.
What really sucks is when you have some of your courses on the mountain and some in Surrey.
taylor192
12-13-2010, 06:19 PM
note to self: do the paper to have random threesome.
That pretty much sums my experience in university residence. :wooha:
too_slow
12-13-2010, 07:23 PM
I can't wait until I start school again (grad studies in Melbourne!!!)
rslater
12-13-2010, 08:17 PM
FYI, UVic is somewhat similar to SFU. Definitely not as drab, but I've found it to be lacking in the school spirit at times. It's nothing compared to UBC.
Interesting I couldn't disagree more with you. From a school spirit I could see where your coming from, but I believe that plays into such a small roll in your experience there. I would never classify life at UVic similiar to SFU or even UBC unless your living there.
UVic is unique because 18000 students (3000 in res in your first year) all live within 15 minutes from campus, and is close knit enough that ever party I went too, I recognized tons of people outside my circle of freinds. Much of what the original writer of that suggestive list said I believe applies great to life at UVic and recommend it to everyone.
RacingMetro92
12-13-2010, 08:39 PM
What really sucks is when you have some of your courses on the mountain and some in Surrey.
Surrey is kinda convenient if you live around transit and you don't need to drive.
Other than that...the only positive is the Brewery and Food Court.
orange7
12-13-2010, 09:54 PM
so true..
this guy is a wise man. :thumbsup:
TouringTeg
12-14-2010, 08:45 AM
Insightful write up.
I just finished my degree (BBA in HR and Leadership from Camosun in Victoria) last Wednesday Dec 8th. I miss it already.
InvisibleSoul
12-14-2010, 10:34 AM
I paid all my tuition to sleep in class. Strangely enough, I felt obligated to attend class all the time, but then I would usually just sleep.
Dentz
12-14-2010, 12:20 PM
Interesting I couldn't disagree more with you. From a school spirit I could see where your coming from, but I believe that plays into such a small roll in your experience there. I would never classify life at UVic similiar to SFU or even UBC unless your living there.
UVic is unique because 18000 students (3000 in res in your first year) all live within 15 minutes from campus, and is close knit enough that ever party I went too, I recognized tons of people outside my circle of freinds. Much of what the original writer of that suggestive list said I believe applies great to life at UVic and recommend it to everyone.
See, I don't live on campus or anywhere near it. I spent the last 4 years prior to my enrollment at UVic living in Victoria, so that means I've been "stuck" here about 8 years now. I guess it's more of a personal issue for me, as I hate Victoria and pretty much everything to do with it. I went to Uvic merely for convenience, which I regret. Anyways, I'm finishing up my undergrad, and I'm moving out east to work on my Masters. I'm sure university will be a totally different ball-park there, as I'll be forced to integrate more so into university life.
That isn't to say I've missed out on the university experience, as that's not the case at all - it's more like I haven't enjoyed most of my university life here. I've met a lot of great people, had some awesome nights, and done a lot of stupid shit (especially lately), but I just cannot force myself to like UVic/Victoria.
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