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Old 12-19-2010, 09:41 AM   #1
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Policeman in Seattle shoots half deaf wood carver for holding a knife.(Slightly NSFW)


Skip to 1:03.

I mean, c'mon, giving the guy 4-5 seconds to comply? Unlike that other incident in Seattle where the officer punched the woman in the face, this is TRUE police brutality. I feel rather sad when I hear about stories like this.

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Old 12-19-2010, 10:06 AM   #2
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Really didn't need to shoot him that many times, someone was definitely trigger happy.
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Old 12-19-2010, 10:16 AM   #3
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Wow.... no chance at all.
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Old 12-19-2010, 10:35 AM   #4
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Really didn't need to shoot him that many times, someone was definitely trigger happy.
wow wtf. Dude had a KNIFE, not an AK-47 aimed at his head. Whatever happened to shooting to dis-arm, and not to kill!??
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Old 12-19-2010, 10:44 AM   #5
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^ I think cops general rule is if the situation calls for you to fire your weapon, it's gotta be a situation serious enough for you to kill the individual, they aren't taught to shoot to maim, they're taught to shoot to kill.
They don't want any confusion in case there is a real danger and the criminal actually has a deadly weapon they plan on using on the cop, so the cop gets confused tries to shoot him in the leg or whatever and the criminal just headshots the cop, they don't want that shit happening to cops...

BUT WE DON'T WANT THIS FUCKIN SHIT HAPPENING TO INNOCENT CIVILIANS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT faggot trigger happy pigs!



This type of shit is embedded in my head deeply so much, that when I get pulled over and cop asks me to give him ID, I keep eye contact with him the whole time slowly reaching for my wallet while telling him I'm now reaching for me wallet in the glove compartment. I also keep both of my hands clearly hanging out the window so they could see my hands at all times.
overkill you guys may think, even most of the cops think I'm retarded and ask me why I'm doing what I'm doing, and I can put my hands down etc.... but since I have cops pulling me over thinking I'm a drug dealer that may be packing I think it's the safest way not to get shot.

One time I was pissing on the side of some building in Gastown and a street cop stopped me I literally raised my hands up finished pissing then turned around basically exposing myself to the cop and asking his permission to zip up, and did so in his full view so he could see both of my hands were being used to tuck in my junk and not reaching for a gun. Cop was cool though, he joked around about busting me for indecent exposure, lol.... I just told him about how I grew up in a warzone and I had cops and military personell shooting at me and my house at times, so it's something that I can't shake out of my head just the way I'm wired.
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wow 5 shots..
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i hope they roast that fuck*en pig.

make an example out of him, so all the other trigger happy f*ucks get a clue.
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if i remembered correctly from the other day, the news reported that the office had to turn in his weapon and badge over this.

someone correct me if i am wrong.
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ooting06m.html

" ... John T. Williams, the woodcarver fatally shot by a Seattle police officer Aug. 30, was struck by four bullets on the right side of his body, indicating he was not facing the officer at the time the shots were fired, the attorney representing the Williams family said Tuesday.

"There's nothing looking like he was facing toward him," Seattle attorney Tim Ford said of Williams' position as the officer fired. "It was all right side."
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Wow the girl walking across the street was barely even phased by the gunshots
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"It has not been disclosed in which hand Williams was carrying the legal, 3-inch folding knife recovered by police at the scene."


"But O'Neill said, in general, an armed person who is standing sideways to an officer can still pose a threat."


"Williams, 50, who was a member of Nuu-Chah-Nulth First Nations in British Columbia, ignored three commands to drop the knife, police officials said. The department originally said Williams advanced on Birk, but later retreated on that statement."


A 3" wood carving knife?? WTF.

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The first shot appears to be fired five seconds from when Birk first told Williams to put the knife down. Court documents show the knife was closed when photographed by investigators.


Straight up murder.

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faggot pigs. even swearing at one gets you beat or threatened to be arrested these days
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:54 PM   #13
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faggot pigs. even swearing at one gets you beat or threatened to be arrested these days
what the fuck.

what do you want them to do? turn around and ask for another? use your fucking head.

I'm not gonna bother making a new post just...you're a fool. If you SWEAR AT A COP, he will respond to you. If you sweat at me, you will be lying on the ground holding your fucking teeth in.

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what the fuck.

what do you want them to do? turn around and ask for another? use your fucking head.
since when is swearing illegal, use your fucking head idiot
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it aint verbal abuse if you dont say it directly to them. ex: i was in calgary, dumbass cop gave me two tickets for having bad attitude? when i talk back
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makes me fuckin sick. Good to see that more than 10 cops can show up before an ambulance. From my experiences with American cops a lot of them are fuckin jack asses.

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what the fuck.

what do you want them to do? turn around and ask for another? use your fucking head.

I'm not gonna bother making a new post just...you're a fool. If you SWEAR AT A COP, he will respond to you. If you sweat at me, you will be lying on the ground holding your fucking teeth in.
haha right..you're the type that can't stand up for yourself against cops even when you know its wrong. thats fine
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According to the court filings the Knife was Closed when recovered so he likely folded it back in to turn around and in the span of a few seconds was shot to death (this was in a news1130 report)

what's ridiculous is in the USA in most states you're allowed to carry a gun (Washington Included) and this guy simply had a little carving knife... i actually thought he was cutting a Banana in the video



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Shows you how fast cops can get to a scene if they want to. Five police cars and two police bikes arrived in about two minutes.
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where is the guy with the taser when you need him?
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I just told him about how I grew up in a warzone and I had cops and military personell shooting at me and my house at times, so it's something that I can't shake out of my head just the way I'm wired.
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i hope they roast that fuck*en pig.

make an example out of him, so all the other trigger happy f*ucks get a clue.
Lol, have you been living under a rock?
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The article didn't mention that leading up to the shooting he was getting more and more agressive with people around. A month or so ago, they released some of the cops dash cam videos of a number of encounters with him, each time getting worse. It was shown on Kiro, Komo or King5 news.

I remember one video a female officer was talking to him calmly and he was yelling, swearing and getting pretty agressive with her. She calmed him down a bit and he left but when she got back to her vehicle, she told her partner and told them that he'd never behaved like that in any previous encounter.

Not sure if anything could've been done but he probably should've been in a mental hospital or something.
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Half deaf bro has a (legal) 3" knife, that's closed. Cop sees him with said knife. Cop yells (he seems incapable of simple reasoning or you know, asking nicely). Since man is partially deaf and on a busy street in the downtown area he doesn't hear. As the half deaf man begins to turn towards the officer to see what that vague sounding noise he heard was. He gets popped five times in the side.
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