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Fail Button - Are you for or against the Fail button? (POLL)
hchang
12-21-2010, 12:59 AM
So with all the controversy (kind of) with the Fail Button being taken away, I'm curious to see how the actual numbers stack up for the Fail button so here is a poll.
Do you prefer Revscene with a fail button, or without?
If you have no clue whatsoever as to what I'm talking about, please click and read the following link.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/revscene-announcement-fail-t633260.html?t=633260
No need to voice your opinions in this thread, unless you want to.
-EuroRSN-
12-21-2010, 01:08 AM
Just cause a few ppl cried about getting "failed" so much doesnt mean we should take it away. Some people truly do fucking fail lol and I want to let them know about it oh wait there is no fail button...nvm :( guess its all verbal abuse from here
I say keep THE FAIL BUTTON!
Culverin
12-21-2010, 01:10 AM
Fail let's me know when I've done or posted or said something stupid.
If there were no fails, people wouldn't run searches before they posted their topics. (Assuming the search works).
I think I've got more fails than thanks. Makes sense to me.
TypeRNammer
12-21-2010, 01:13 AM
Just cause a few ppl cried about getting "failed" so much doesnt mean we should take it away. Some people truly do fucking fail lol and I want to let them know about it oh wait there is no fail button...nvm :( guess its all verbal abuse from here
I say keep THE FAIL BUTTON!
Keep it so I can fail EuroRSN discovering SR Auto :troll:
:fuckyea:
Berzerker
12-21-2010, 01:17 AM
^^^ hahah Gold thread.
Berz out.
boss_clad
12-21-2010, 01:17 AM
the fail button is like communism,
it could work,
but too many people don't know how to use it.
i think there should be something along the lines of "disagree" or "dislike"
hchang
12-21-2010, 01:22 AM
Here's my take on the subject.
Honestly, I'm kind of against this Fail function being removed.
I always proof read my posts prior to posting to avoid Fails, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Now with the Fail button removed I'm 99% sure everybody who proof reads, including myself will not proof read as often, or might not even proof read at all, which will result in a lot of hard to read/understand posts.
Yes, it can help derail threads, but now Fight Club will be more empty than it already is, if e-thugs can't get mad over somebody failing one of their posts.
The Fail Button helps me screen through the good and bad posts in the Fucked up shit that makes you laugh forum, as well as the Twanger and White Chicks thread.
Revscene is the only forum I've ever seen that has anything as unique as the Fail button, and while I thought it was retarded in the beginning, I found that it actually is kind of fun, entertaining and useful.
Not having a fail button is like being in a Kindergarten Class, where you have to play nice all the time, and can only encourage each other. I see the good in taking away the fails, but I believe the bad outweighs the good.
Just my two cents.
jpark
12-21-2010, 01:23 AM
i liked the fail button at least on the fucked up shit that makes you laugh thread so i could filter through which vids are worthy to watch or not lol
Bouncing Bettys
12-21-2010, 01:25 AM
Revscene seemed to do alright before the thanks/fail buttons. There are rules and powers in place to keep posters in check.
MelonBoy
12-21-2010, 01:28 AM
er.. i bet the people who are complaining about the fail button are the ones who keep getting failed for stupid shit they post.. >.> I mean if you take out the fail button you might as well take out the thanks toooooo :O
This aint no communist forum we need choices! :D
(GG i bet some people wana fail me after this post.. suckaaaa's)
donjalapeno
12-21-2010, 01:35 AM
people take advantage of it....for example
trolling posts and failing
failing personal opionion
and taking away fail buttons was a stupid idea too, just another way too get heated arguements going, last thing we want is people hating on eachother.
hchang
12-21-2010, 01:36 AM
failing personal opionion
Yeah but you also fail and thank people based on person opinion as well.
Rules: don't abuse it.
Thank when you want.
Fail when you want, but don't troll around, following people's posts and failing it because you can. Fail a post? Atleast have a reason for it.
Ps: management reserve the right to remove fail/thanks from anyone, anytime, for reasons we see fit.
It's very simple. Fail/thanks started as a novelty. Shall remain that way. If it changes we'll axe it.
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FN-2199
12-21-2010, 01:41 AM
I don't mind the fail button anywhere except for the Buy & Sell.
Buy & Sell should be as professional as possible, and should strictly be for business. No need for fails there, regardless of what retards post.
Vansterdam
12-21-2010, 01:54 AM
The fuck
How about you gove me back my fail button and remove my thanks instead :D
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maxxxboost
12-21-2010, 01:58 AM
I think the fail button is a part of RS, same with all the emoticon that was created over the years.
Everyone can do without it, but it's just another option to have.
.....I like options.
deep87
12-21-2010, 02:03 AM
how about limiting fails available per day to like 5? or have the amount based off of joindate/posts/thanks or something?
atleast that way it actually means something/you'll think twice about failing someone
shenmecar
12-21-2010, 02:11 AM
WTF, Removing the FAIL button is FAIL. I SAY BRING IT BACK!
Oleophobic
12-21-2010, 02:11 AM
i think the fail button also prevents some people from posting what could be pretty interesting threads because they are afraid of getting failed and "ruining" their perfect fail free record.
Hard to find the balance, but other popular forums don't have fail buttons and they have no problem handling spam. I think it's safer to encourage people to post rather than discourage them. The fail button indirectly discourages people from posting. No matter how minor this effect is, it's still there.
ok iono wtf I'm saying cuz it's late but you get the idea.
i think the fail button also prevents some people from posting what could be pretty interesting threads because they are afraid of getting failed and "ruining" their perfect fail free record.
Hard to find the balance, but other popular forums don't have fail buttons and they have no problem handling spam. I think it's safer to encourage people to post rather than discourage them. The fail button indirectly discourages people from posting. No matter how minor this effect is, it's still there.
ok iono wtf I'm saying cuz it's late but you get the idea.
I see what you're trying to get at but if you're scared to post something because you'll get "failed" then you need to grow a pair.
I already miss the fail button and had withdrawls while in the fucked up shit thread.
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hchang
12-21-2010, 02:41 AM
As of 3:41 am we are currently sitting at
42 FOR the Fail button
and
14 AGAINST the Fail button.
Definitely curious to see how this pans out tomorrow morning.
Night everybody, and thanks for voting!
AzNightmare
12-21-2010, 02:44 AM
Fail will be coming back I think...
If not... this poll would be self defeating.
asian_XL
12-21-2010, 03:03 AM
I give out about all 10 fails every day to people I dislike. 10 fails x 30days = 300 fails in one month. Thank you, please keep it.
SkinnyPupp
12-21-2010, 03:57 AM
I don't mind the fail button anywhere except for the Buy & Sell.
Buy & Sell should be as professional as possible, and should strictly be for business. No need for fails there, regardless of what retards post.
Buy and Sell will be replaced by a dedicated classified section... *soon*
orange7
12-21-2010, 04:32 AM
Buy and Sell will be replaced by a dedicated classified section... *soon*
:eek::eek:
nice!
Gnomes
12-21-2010, 04:56 AM
At first I was against it cuz I see a lot of stupid fails being given out for no reason. It's only now when I start seeing them used a bit more responsibly. It would be great if we can fail people BUT give a mandatory reason why (eg. repost, logic fail, ugly NLS picture, etc).
interested in how ppl see this.
stewie
12-21-2010, 05:43 AM
personally i could care less about the fail button...if people are that upset about it being taken away, maybe its time for some people to step away from their computer and discover the outside world, theres so much to do out there to occupy your time instead of going through posts and failing people so you can jump on the bandwagon.
wow really... some people taking this thank/fail shit to close to heart its the fuckin internet do you guys really care that much about being failed? seriously?
bring back the fail button
LiquidTurbo
12-21-2010, 05:57 AM
We are all unfailable like mods and SkinnyPupp? What fun is that!
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LiquidTurbo
12-21-2010, 06:32 AM
I think a good compromise would be to keep fails forth NSFW section. That section needs to have quality posts for sure. In all other sections we could have a thumbs up 'like' or 'diskike' feature similar to YouTube. These would not count toward any kind of record, but would just point to the quality of the post without being too derogatory.
Something like "35 users liked this post"
'Thanks' if you support this idea. 'fail' if you.....nevermind.
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TRDood
12-21-2010, 06:35 AM
What's the significance in thanks if we can't fail?
Both measures will lose its meaning
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hotjoint
12-21-2010, 07:05 AM
Bring back the fail :)
CharlieH
12-21-2010, 07:14 AM
im gonna fail everyone who voted against the fail button when they bring it back
Inaii
12-21-2010, 07:18 AM
^precisely why they got rid of it.
spoon.ek9
12-21-2010, 07:27 AM
seriously now, if the fail button was removed because of a few cry babies then we need to bring it back. those who care/cry about fails are literally placing fails on a pedestal. these are FAILS on the INTERNET from RANDOM people. give your head a shake if fails really rattle you that much.
side note: 75% in favour of fail button as of this post :D
Great68
12-21-2010, 07:28 AM
I think for someone to be able to use the fail button, they should be forced to enter a reply/reason/rebuttle argument.
That would cut out the little kids who play fail-tag in some threads.
if someone is complaining they are getting failed too many times, they should make less "fail-worthy" posts.
abuse of the fail button gets investigated by mod's already so why remove it completely?
everyone gets failed on here at least once, get over it - it's the internet
Lomac
12-21-2010, 08:04 AM
i liked the fail button at least on the fucked up shit that makes you laugh thread so i could filter through which vids are worthy to watch or not lol
Y'know, you can always judge whether a video is good by how many thanks it gets...
Jayhall
12-21-2010, 08:17 AM
I got failed for a grammer error, kind of petty but I dont give a fuck. I havent been around long enough to know how great or how shitty it was, but I did like the idea when I figured out what it was all about
Jsunu
12-21-2010, 08:17 AM
Revscene posts where fine before it and it will be fine without it.
!Yaminashi
12-21-2010, 08:35 AM
No matter how much you whine and complain its not coming back
/thread
taylor192
12-21-2010, 08:41 AM
No matter how much you whine and complain its not coming back
/thread
How about a new button: "pwned"
:lock
Vinny G
12-21-2010, 08:42 AM
Y'know, you can always judge whether a video is good by how many thanks it gets...
To be fair, far more people fail for a shitty video than thank for a good one lol
!Yaminashi
12-21-2010, 08:42 AM
How about a new button: "pwned"
:lock
This would be good for arguments lol
how bout a limit to the amount of fails a person can receive for one post??
Berzerker
12-21-2010, 09:04 AM
Y'know, you can always judge whether a video is good by how many thanks it gets...
I'm not going to thank a mediocre video and I will fail a shitty one... as much as thanking a good one. Does that mean any video with no thanks on it now I shouldn't watch?
I've skipped many a video due to the fails.. .and I thank the Fail button for it.
Berz out.
Lomac
12-21-2010, 09:10 AM
I'm not going to thank a mediocre video and I will fail a shitty one... as much as thanking a good one. Does that mean any video with no thanks on it now I shouldn't watch?
I've skipped many a video due to the fails.. .and I thank the Fail button for it.
Berz out.
I'm just saying that RS survived for nearly 10 years without the fail button.
flagella
12-21-2010, 09:11 AM
yea, include fail button, and also enable skinnypupp's fail
i dont care either way, but i think if we bring it back, mods will have to be fail-able too (including skinnypupp)
its just for fun anyway
Phil@rise
12-21-2010, 09:21 AM
who cares, if the failer doesn't have the courtesy to offer up an explanation as to why they disagreed with your post and failed it why take it seriously? they are just tryin to stir the pot.
I'll admit I've failed people just for the hell of it and I'll do it again. Why? Why not after all its just the internet and I'm one of the assholes in it so get over yourself ya whiny bitches.
fail fail fail fail
drunkrussian
12-21-2010, 09:24 AM
i have no opinion on the fail button and am satisfied with whatever the result is.
With that said, let me activate my hate button:
To the people saying it prevents people from reposts, or makes them more cautious or w/e, you're trying to rationalize. All it does is spread hate, nobody gives a fuck about the hate button
To the people who say they like it because it keeps them in check and makes them see via group decision if they're right or wrong or funny or unfunny - get a personality and some self esteem.
To the people who say removing it is communism, I find you guys the funniest, because the way you talk about the value of the fail button to you in regulating yourself within the community - that sounds like communism to me.
With all that said, like i said before, I don't care about the fail button one way or another. I do like the thanks button though - spready positive energy is always a good thing, for everyone.
taylor192
12-21-2010, 09:26 AM
who cares, if the failer doesn't have the courtesy to offer up an explanation as to why they disagreed with your post and failed it why take it seriously? they are just tryin to stir the pot.
I'll admit I've failed people just for the hell of it and I'll do it again. Why? Why not after all its just the internet and I'm one of the assholes in it so get over yourself ya whiny bitches.
fail fail fail fail
FAIL
Sincerely,
Another asshole from the internet
flagella
12-21-2010, 09:31 AM
I'm just saying that RS survived for nearly 10 years without the fail button.
yea but fail button is like cocaine, once you use it, u can't go without it.
PuYang
12-21-2010, 09:36 AM
i have never had the fail button since joining... why was that? ;[
i feel like im missing out ;p
sexyaccord
12-21-2010, 09:37 AM
how about rather than accumulating fail #,
any fails you receive reduces your "thanks"?
insomniac
12-21-2010, 10:05 AM
^that? Kinda like rep points in any other forum. But at least you can see the fails on the post
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!Aznboi128
12-21-2010, 10:08 AM
^ oh you can simply click "quote" and comment
spyker
12-21-2010, 10:16 AM
wow really... some people taking this thank/fail shit to close to heart its the fuckin internet do you guys really care that much about being failed? seriously?
bring back the fail button
You should be telling this to the person or people who keyed those two cars with the word "fail".
i don't care either way. it was nice to just click a button when someone was being a moron or douche but i wont lose sleep over it
Berzerker
12-21-2010, 10:41 AM
IF it gets brought back I'm sure the Fail button will be modded more closely and points will result from "Fail Stalking" as well as removal of privileges to keep member in check. If you can't be mature about the Fail button be expected to be treated immaturely.
Berz out.
spoon.ek9
12-21-2010, 11:02 AM
ahh, i had forgotten about the keying incidents. those were odd since they involved two members who aren't regulars. both were civics and both were keyed within the same area. dammit.
Oleophobic
12-21-2010, 11:49 AM
I'm just saying that RS survived for nearly 10 years without the fail button.
oui oui
I've been lurking RS long before I started posting and there were no problems with troll posts before the fail button was introduced. I mean you get the usual spam once in a while but I don't think we treat spam any differently now than we did before. In fact, after the fail button was introduced you get people like Zhangfei spamming useless threads about having a north face jacket in the winter time just to get failed. Oh btw, Zhangfei is cool :thumbsup:
I still think the fail button discourages people from posting. No matter how ridiculous you guys think this reasoning is, I am willing to bet a great number of people have decided against posting a thread or sharing a funny video just because they didn't think it was "worth it" to get fails.
Doesn't matter if these people are pansies, it's still the fail button that is causing people to hold back.
Rants or complaints are another big thing. I don't mean useless pointless rants about mainlanders. Often times rants/complaints have good reasoning behind them. Of course one will most likely receive both thanks and fails from people with differing opinions on the rant. Due to this, I bet many people hold back from posting what would be an interesting topic. A forum should be a place that encourages discussion after all.
The thanks button is all about positivity while the fail button is about negativity. I think we can all live without the fail button.
NSFW threads I do agree the fail button will come in handy.
edit:
I voted against the fail button due to the above reasons but I really do not mind if it gets brought back. I mean I did use it once in a while and have had it used against me so it's no biggie to me. I just hope admins can be failed too if it gets brought back :p
PiuYi
12-21-2010, 12:15 PM
oui oui
I've been lurking RS long before I started posting and there were no problems with troll posts before the fail button was introduced. I mean you get the usual spam once in a while but I don't think we treat spam any differently now than we did before. In fact, after the fail button was introduced you get people like Zhangfei spamming useless threads about having a north face jacket in the winter time just to get failed. Oh btw, Zhangfei is cool :thumbsup:
thats a good point, but keep in mind ZF was banned for like 6 months and now his fail threads hav stopped
maybe mods can just take away their thread-making abilities
sonick
12-21-2010, 12:21 PM
Without the Fail button there would have never been the legend of :noob:
who the hell takes getting failed seriously??
too much coddling nowadays!
I bet those who are whining about it are the ones referred to as "SPAZ" in the real world. Remember those kids in highschool? Those who can't take a joke or a prank, who can't dish anything back and just snaps like an idiot, yup must be plenty of those in here...
jdmhaze
12-21-2010, 01:24 PM
Without the Fail button there would have never been the legend of :noob:
That started because he was a NOOB.
insomniac
12-21-2010, 01:43 PM
^ oh you can simply click "quote" and comment
well i dont think everyone would want the people who wants to fail a specific post to all comment on one "fail" post..
Gary Oak
12-21-2010, 02:26 PM
How about we just limit the amount of fails a person can give out daily, like 5 or 10 fails and they renew every day.
CP.AR
12-21-2010, 02:28 PM
^
+1 for capping the # of fails.
trancehead
12-21-2010, 02:38 PM
No matter how much you whine and complain its not coming back
/thread
Wow seriously? Whining and complaining? The OP started this thread as an open discussion about the merits of the FAIL.
I see some valid points about the FAIL button using it to distinguish quality posts, prevent trash from being posted, and in general showing a dislike for something that is a flagrant troll post.
To the people who can't handle being failed...give your balls a tug. Generally there is GOOD reason to being failed. If not, brush it off your shoulder princess.
And the issue of being fail-stalked has been addressed already (where mods can take action).
I hope the backbone of Revscene can continue to evolve in the right direction. Most forums have a +/- ability for each post which is a great idea. Having a FAIL button instead of a - is unique to Revscene and definitely has its merits. I hope you guys make the right thought out decision.
bloodmack
12-21-2010, 02:38 PM
jesus christ chang, I dunno which display pic is more mesmerizing, berz or yours. :drool
on topic: Fail button should be back but with rules!
LsquareD
12-21-2010, 02:41 PM
i'd be happy with 1 fail per day.
use it wisely!
spyker
12-21-2010, 02:41 PM
How about we just limit the amount of fails a person can give out daily, like 5 or 10 fails and they renew every day.
There was already a cap on how many fails a member can give a day.
It's not like it was limitless.
ZhangFei
12-21-2010, 02:41 PM
I beg to differ. Although I do AGREE that my past posts were useless, on the other hand, almost all of the threads on OT are also completely useless. The majority of posts in OT are about sharing youtube videos and replying with internet memes, usually with a picture. And the person who replied with the the latest internet meme gets the most thanks.
OT is like some random daily updated forum for people to get their shits and giggles for the day. That's where I get my latest news, or scandals or latest viral videos from. If you get a fail, don't be a Bradford Chow and take things too seriously.
I got banned from writing fucked up shit in in fight club. I thought I would be immune writing shit in that forum. LOL. But guess not.
But now it seems like trolling is the latest internet meme. I do admit I was doing that BEFORE IT WAS COOL. Now since everyone is posting troll posts with the troll face, that shit is played out like nammer kappa pants.
Energy
12-21-2010, 02:50 PM
How about we just limit the amount of fails a person can give out daily, like 5 or 10 fails and they renew every day.
So I have 5 fails a day and its now 11:55pm and I haven't used any of my fails... Oh no I have to go use my fails, time to randomly fail people!!!
ZhangFei
12-21-2010, 02:53 PM
Oh... and while we are on topic....
The fail button was what made Revscene, Revscene. Removing the fail button from this forum is just like removing the mole off Cindy Crawford's face. It's just not the same.
snowball
12-21-2010, 02:54 PM
I used to hate the fail button, then I got used to it, but I don't think people should be failed for reposting because often they didn't do it on purpose....
I don't know why the FAILs have to be part of your profile. If someone makes a stupid post and they get 50 fails, the fails should stick with that post instead of it having to follow the user around forever with "Failed 50 times in 1 post"
sonick
12-21-2010, 03:05 PM
Every member should be given 999,999,999 fails.
Oleophobic
12-21-2010, 03:25 PM
I don't know why the FAILs have to be part of your profile. If someone makes a stupid post and they get 50 fails, the fails should stick with that post instead of it having to follow the user around forever with "Failed 50 times in 1 post"
Very good point. I don't think people care so much about getting fails as they do about the number of fails that shows up on their profile.
If you make one stupid post and get 100 fails it stays on your profile and makes you look kinda stupid lol.
case in point:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/write-letter-yourself-t607710.html
miss_crayon's post (post #9) received like a shit ton of fails or so I remember and it was because she wasn't thinking or it slipped her mind that the post she was quoting was referring to lottery tickets. One dumb mistake in a post and it's now on her profile forever with a 103 fails in 18 posts.
I don't think she cares but I'm just saying :D
PDA_86
12-21-2010, 03:44 PM
I generally have no opinion to the fail button, since I probably fail one person once in a blue moon. I do agree that we should give reasons to failing though, cuz that person would never understand their wrong doing.
A perfect example is just like a piece of homework from school. If the teacher just gives you an "F" without explaining why you're doing this wrong, you're just gonna keep heading that wrong direction.
When usually there's this one post that gets hundreds of fails, probably like only 3 people might reply with only two or three words like "Oh, it's ugly. Fail." The fails usually just keep adding up due to the so-called "By-Stander" effect. Unless anyone ever truely explain what is wrong with that post, due to grammer or repost or reason for disagreement, more threads would just become trolled.
ruthless
12-21-2010, 03:46 PM
FIGHT THE POWER!
604nguyen
12-21-2010, 03:50 PM
why do people get so concerned and worked up about how many fails they get on their profile?
are you guys that concerned about your internet ego?
its the internet....
bring back the FAIL
:fuckyea:
spoon.ek9
12-21-2010, 03:54 PM
How about we just limit the amount of fails a person can give out daily, like 5 or 10 fails and they renew every day.
^
+1 for capping the # of fails.
i guess a lot of people didn't realise there WAS a limit in place. 10 fails per 24hrs. initially it was unlimited but guys like mugen evolution ruined that for us lol :D
drunkrussian
12-21-2010, 03:55 PM
Oh... and while we are on topic....
The fail button was what made Revscene, Revscene. Removing the fail button from this forum is just like removing the mole off Cindy Crawford's face. It's just not the same.
hmm maybe the fail button SHOULD be re-activated. After I read the the quoted text, my first instinct was to fail that post. But alas the button was gone.
604nguyen
12-21-2010, 04:00 PM
theres so many new post in other forums that are in urgent need of failing....
if only we could fail....
:alone:
spyker
12-21-2010, 04:04 PM
The fail button was what made Revscene, Revscene.
I wish I could fail you for this post.I'm suprised you did not collect 10,000 fails during your time on RS.
I suggest you go back a few pages and read a post made by a MOD,the MOD clearly states,revscene has survived for almost 10 years without the fail button.
Do you really think a button that a member can click,actually made this place what it is today?
I clearly remember the fail button was introduced specifically for you and your dumb trolling posts/threads.
Removing the feature to fail posts will just open up users to verbal abuse instead of a single click of a button.
spoon.ek9
12-21-2010, 04:07 PM
^ my thoughts exactly. sometimes a simple "fail" is less hurtful than a long ranting post about how OP is a moron.
sonick
12-21-2010, 04:07 PM
^ my thoughts exactly. sometimes a simple "fail" is less hurtful than a long ranting post about how ZhangFei is a moron.
FTFY.
BaoTurbo
12-21-2010, 04:08 PM
i guess a lot of people didn't realise there WAS a limit in place. 10 fails per 24hrs. initially it was unlimited but guys like mugen evolution ruined that for us lol :D
Well hes gone now..or banned so :fuckyea: LET TEH FAIL BEGIN
LiquidTurbo
12-21-2010, 04:17 PM
I'm down with the one fail per day idea, using it wisely.
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Inaii
12-21-2010, 04:18 PM
Well hes gone now..or banned so :fuckyea: LET TEH FAIL BEGIN
You were one of the ones complaining about being failed... yet now you're all for it? Bandwagoner.
sonick
12-21-2010, 04:27 PM
Well hes gone now..or banned so :fuckyea: LET TEH FAIL BEGIN
You were one of the ones complaining about being failed... yet now you're all for it? Bandwagoner.
Owned.
vafanculo
12-21-2010, 04:45 PM
Why not just do it so when you click on fail, a small box pops up and you have to type the reason why you failed it. Then mods can do random audits and hand out points as they see fit
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Hondaracer
12-21-2010, 04:49 PM
lol @ people worried about their number of fails..
only thing different, mods should be able to be failed
akalic
12-21-2010, 04:50 PM
a lot of people including myself don't post much, but i find that failing is a community thing similar to posting. BRING IT BACK WOO WOO
PuYang
12-21-2010, 04:56 PM
yeah i agree with adding a reason for failing someone.
someone failed one of my posts, but quoted me and bolded the part where i was a hypocrit, doing what i said i wouldnt do in that same post (fail lol). so, yeah, i actually appreciate the way he failed me, because i didnt even realize i did what i did ;p
but it confuzzled me when i got failed for asking for transmission swap advice... wasnt given a reason for the fail ;[
EDIT:
MERRY XMAS everyone ;D!
v.Rossi
12-21-2010, 05:08 PM
But now it seems like trolling is the latest internet meme. I do admit I was doing that BEFORE IT WAS COOL. Now since everyone is posting troll posts with the troll face, that shit is played out like nammer kappa pants.
and how old are you?
i can't believe the fail button is gone, people really give a shit about fails? it's just the internet for fuck sakes.
breathe, walk out your room, step outside, breathe again, now begin the process called life.
Inaii
12-21-2010, 05:22 PM
You know, I'm curious about something. All of you who say you want the fail button to remain, why are you getting so bent out of shape about it? It's just the internet right?
lgman
12-21-2010, 05:29 PM
http://c1345842.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/assets/apps/icons/000/409/185/original.png?1288094469Awww was it removed for the Christmas season? I bet santa would give a "fail" in the form of a lump of coal. Bring it back please.
drunkrussian
12-21-2010, 05:36 PM
Why not just do it so when you click on fail, a small box pops up and you have to type the reason why you failed it. Then mods can do random audits and hand out points as they see fit
lol now its REALLY communist
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November
12-21-2010, 05:38 PM
I say keep it! Most people use it responsibly and most people who vote against bringing back a fail button are probably the idiots who post stupid flameworthy comments and take Revscene too seriously.
It also lets me know which threads/posts that I shouldn't waste my time on.
And I think all admins should be fail-able because there is one *certain* egotistical admin that constantly posts his opinions and bashes/fails everyone who tries to say otherwise. Powertrip much.
sonick
12-21-2010, 05:41 PM
We should have a feature to fail a fail so that failers are more accountable for their fails, so that if somebody's fail gets failed too much by others failing them then they would fail to keep their fail privileges resulting in them failing even moreso than the person they failed.
http://elitespins.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/xzibit.png
trancehead
12-21-2010, 05:45 PM
You know, I'm curious about something. All of you who say you want the fail button to remain, why are you getting so bent out of shape about it? It's just the internet right?
You could easily turn the tables around and ask why are you getting so bent out of shape for protecting abolishment of the fail button. Its just the internet right?
satek
12-21-2010, 05:47 PM
I need to use the button on arash!! bring it back
PiuYi
12-21-2010, 06:31 PM
You were one of the ones complaining about being failed... yet now you're all for it? Bandwagoner.
a simple fail would've hurt less than that comment :(
Inaii
12-21-2010, 06:40 PM
You could easily turn the tables around and ask why are you getting so bent out of shape for protecting abolishment of the fail button. Its just the internet right?
Lol, I'm not getting bent out of shape. As I said, I'm curious.
SpuGen
12-21-2010, 06:41 PM
I think for someone to be able to use the fail button, they should be forced to enter a reply/reason/rebuttle argument.
That would cut out the little kids who play fail-tag in some threads.
We already had something like this before the Fail/Thanks option.
It was called Fight Club.
Before the random negativity was spread all over the forums, negative threads were just moved to FC, and everything was dealt with there.
Great68
12-21-2010, 06:45 PM
We already had something like this before the Fail/Thanks option.
It was called Fight Club.
Before the random negativity was spread all over the forums, negative threads were just moved to FC, and everything was dealt with there.
... *Checks Join Date*
2 years before you, pretty sure I know what Fight club is all about :p
Mr.HappySilp
12-21-2010, 06:46 PM
Bring back the FAIL! And while at it make it so we can fail mods too =D
Bouncing Bettys
12-21-2010, 07:10 PM
so many arguments in this thread can be made to argue for the opposite position by just changing a word or two
tiger_handheld
12-21-2010, 07:55 PM
if the fail button is back, everyone should be able to get failed.
users,mods,admins
Hondaracer
12-21-2010, 08:19 PM
the internet is negative
http://www.6lyrics.com/images/artists/ice_cube.jpg
GET USED TO IT!
BaoTurbo
12-21-2010, 08:45 PM
You were one of the ones complaining about being failed... yet now you're all for it? Bandwagoner.
That's when I had no fail button and top of that being targeted posts. I didn't fail people on purpose afterwards even when it had. Get your timeline straight. :rolleyes:
drunkrussian
12-21-2010, 09:27 PM
usually when someone posts a stupid thread, one person comes up with a really clever "fuck you cocksucker" comment and a shitload of people "Thank" that person for summing up their feelings of hate, in one entertaining post.
When this person is thanked, not only is it a "Fail" to the OP, but also a twisted compliment to the poster who posted the "Cocksucker" comment regarding the OP's post.
this process >>>>Fail Button.
wingies
12-21-2010, 09:31 PM
If the fail comes back, EVERYONE must be able to be failed. Why the hell do mods get exempt from being failed? Failed is usually because one doesnt agree or like wht the poster posted, thus failing them. Does that mean we cannot disagree or not like what mods post?
Keep the fails away unless it applies to everyone
sonick
12-21-2010, 10:03 PM
They should make a new button that means and works exactly the same thing as a FAIL, but call it JQNB or something meaningless so people don't get their panties in a bunch when they get JQNB'd.
fliptuner
12-21-2010, 11:21 PM
They should make it so that for every year you've been a member, you need to be given that many fails before it registers.
ie. noobs get failed easier and I need 7 fails to show 1
:fuckyea:
midnight_r
12-22-2010, 01:09 AM
no.. how can i FAIL Arash and Tempo now...:facepalm::facepalm:
Bring it back
and I like the idea of being able to Fail the Fail
When was the FAIL button introduced?
Renthal
12-22-2010, 01:40 AM
bring it back
it adds so much more entertainment value to this site :thumbsup:
GrapeDrink
12-22-2010, 01:41 AM
I think for the most part, people had used the fail button fairly reasonably, there were probably a few cases I Saw where people were just abusing it but for the most part I think the fail button did a fairly good job of quality control for the posts. Because people had to actually to think before they posted any random crap they think may be mildly funny and etc. Now my favorite threads (Fucked up shit what makes you laugh and twangers hahaa) going to get flooded with sub par material.
maybe a fail button just for the NSFW section? thats where they seem to be given out the most.
SpuGen
12-22-2010, 03:28 AM
... *Checks Join Date*
2 years before you, pretty sure I know what Fight club is all about :p
I know.
Just reminding people that we had something that worked before.
The Fail/Thanks thing just dumbed down RS.
I suggested the Pos/Neg Rep thing before. Instead, we get Fail/Thanks.
Neg/Pos rep just shows as a Neg/Posi rep. Instead of showing a single post with a bunch of Fail spams. So instead of "Oh hey. These guys failed this guy for this post, I'm gonna tag him with a fail too because it's funny" Someone can just Neg rep the poster without leaving a tag, and the User will just be shown as a guy with a neg rep.
What I'm wondering, is who actually thought up of the idea of the Fail/Thanks thing in the first place.
And if that person is Skinnypup, why was he immune to fails?
Just saying.
Berzerker
12-22-2010, 07:47 AM
In defense of the Mod an Admins not having fail function you must understand that a majority of people that receive points for doing something stupid being able to fail the mod that gave them points would be to high a temptation. While what you all say is true in that the fail button doesn't mean anything you still need to have "rules" around and those rules are (unofficially) that "Fail Stalking" ie. giving multiple fails to the same user for no reason or failing someone simply for failing you first is a no no. If you were stupid enough to deserve points your more than likely stupid enough to fail stalk a mod after. Having the mod team and admins Failproof is the most logical step in prevent people from abusing this function.
I personally don't care and deserved the fails I got for reposts etc.
Berz out.
Vinny G
12-22-2010, 08:02 AM
And if that person is Skinnypup, why was he immune to fails?
Probably cause half the board hates him. Hell, even other mods do. Funny thing though cause he probably uses the fail button more than other people since he just clicks it if you disagree with him. Every board has a resident ass armed with wikipedia knowledge so I don't know why people get angry over his posts. Sometimes he gives good, legitimate advice.
I think he removed the ability to get failed after some thread in VLS. He posted something about clothes (obviously negative) and everyone in the thread failed him and called him an idiot. Of course, he promptly deleted those posts and removed his fails.
edit: just found this gem, first result in the google search. http://www.revscene.net/forums/skinnypupp-t189277.html :lol
Greenstoner
12-22-2010, 08:24 AM
^ lol , nice thread
twitchyzero
12-22-2010, 09:42 AM
74% to 26%..i think the mod team should really reconsider the fail system.
spyker
12-22-2010, 10:17 AM
After a month or so of the fail button being gone,alot of the people currently wanting it back,won't even notice or care that it's gone,everyone will readapt quickly to how this place was before the fail button was introduced.
dachinesedude
12-22-2010, 10:44 AM
i dont use the fail button but i think it should be brought back, its what makes RS different from all the other forums
and lol at the ppl freaking out cuz they got failed, dont wanna get failed? dont post
Gumby
12-22-2010, 10:49 AM
and lol at the ppl freaking out cuz they got failed, dont wanna get failed? dont post
Nothing wrong with posting. The important thing to do is to THINK before you post. :)
Berzerker
12-22-2010, 10:56 AM
Nothing wrong with posting. The important thing to do is to THINK before you post. :)
And possibly search ;)
Berz out.
RS doesn't feel like RS without fails :(
Greenstoner
12-22-2010, 12:29 PM
its probably just the x'mas theme... where everywhere u go is all about "thanks" lol
sonick
12-22-2010, 12:33 PM
^ would've made more sense during Thanksgiving...
BTW, you are likely right; this is probably a holiday thing and we're all being trolled by the admins:
Awe the rise and fall of the Fail button... I'm gonna miss it.
Berz out.
It'll be back don't worry. This is apparently a "trial" for some reason.
asahai69
12-22-2010, 12:35 PM
i would fail you all if i could
I'm going to start giving out "thanks" it's not the same as fail, but in my mind..it's a "fail"
!Yaminashi
12-22-2010, 01:09 PM
No, you're all wrong. Whats really going on is the fail button has been removed..
However when it comes back, all of you will have 10k fails, but when you fail someone, you also get a fail for using the fail button
asahai69
12-22-2010, 01:14 PM
^ but if everyone has 10k fails. what do the people with no life on this forum do then? try and reach 20k fails?
ForbiddenX
12-22-2010, 01:18 PM
^probably. I'm fine with that as long as the posts show that it's been failed.
Also the positive/negative rep idea would work if you wanted to filter the posts just by the person using it. I mean you already know somethings bad given the self earned rep by the person.
It doesn't really work if you wanted to know if the video or post that someone posted was worth the time. Most likely if it's someone with a lot of negative rep it'll be bad, but what about one of those odd times that they do post something of quality lol...maybe not.
drunkrussian
12-22-2010, 02:37 PM
i think the following procedures should be enforced in order to please the republic of revscene:
1. before posting, a user must submit a synopsis of their post to revscene. this synipsis must be approved by 30 readers and two mods to be considered
2. the proposed post must not mention anything negative regarding the republic of revscene, its mods or its regulations
3. once approved, the synonpsis will be examined by 5 mods and will be approved or diapproved. only posts which are for the betterment of revscene shall be approved. the rest of the proposed op's will be disapproved
4. for particularly bad post suggestions or ones which make the republic of recscene look bad, posters will be failed. they will also be shot and burnt alive, then fed to the trolls
we stand as one. we stand for all. the republic of revscene approves this message.
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PiuYi
12-22-2010, 02:47 PM
edit: just found this gem, first result in the google search. http://www.revscene.net/forums/skinnypupp-t189277.html :lol
for some reason i always thought skinnypup was female
LOLOL found this in there hahaha funny cuz i thought the same at first too :lol
ForbiddenX
12-22-2010, 03:11 PM
To be fair though, Skinnypup did do a lot of the web stuff for RS right? Atleast that's what I thought. He implemented most of what we use now?
Berzerker
12-22-2010, 03:38 PM
The fail button is nothing without Skinnypup. It was his doing that brought it amongst many other things on RS you are not aware of that make RS what it is today.
Berz out.
Probably cause half the board hates him. Hell, even other mods do. Funny thing though cause he probably uses the fail button more than other people since he just clicks it if you disagree with him. Every board has a resident ass armed with wikipedia knowledge so I don't know why people get angry over his posts. Sometimes he gives good, legitimate advice.
I think he removed the ability to get failed after some thread in VLS. He posted something about clothes (obviously negative) and everyone in the thread failed him and called him an idiot. Of course, he promptly deleted those posts and removed his fails.
edit: just found this gem, first result in the google search. http://www.revscene.net/forums/skinnypupp-t189277.html :lol
holy crap i always thought skinnypup was asian because he lives in hk lol...haven't been here long enough to realize that haha
strykn
12-22-2010, 04:50 PM
Hard to weed out retarded shit in NSFW forum now :( fuuuuuu
Lomac
12-22-2010, 07:07 PM
To be fair though, Skinnypup did do a lot of the web stuff for RS right? Atleast that's what I thought. He implemented most of what we use now?
Love him or hate him (and god knows the site is polarized over that :lol), he's done a lot of badly needed backroom maintenance and added a lot of revenue sources for Revscene when the rest of us were unable to do so.
TheKingdom2000
12-22-2010, 07:09 PM
if the mods and admins wanna be fail proof then let them..
i don't care.
just bring back the button!!!!
i need my fix
spoon.ek9
12-22-2010, 07:31 PM
253 - FOR
93 - AGAINST
i think it's pretty clear where the large majority of us (~73%) stand here. i'm glad to know that i'm not the only one suffering from withdrawal :rofl:
Oleophobic
12-22-2010, 10:19 PM
I think he removed the ability to get failed after some thread in VLS. He posted something about clothes (obviously negative) and everyone in the thread failed him and called him an idiot. Of course, he promptly deleted those posts and removed his fails.
:lol
wait am I missing something?
According to the thread where he introduced the fail button:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/introducing-fail-button-t593507.html
he stated from the beginning that admins cannot be failed?
geeknerd
12-22-2010, 11:57 PM
^^ i think admin and mod are 2 different levels
o btw fail button is useless. people fail someone and then go on to verbally abuse them via post and then that post is thanked by people who agree, so it kinda acts like a fail button anyways.
and then there are the people who fail and doesnt justify it, im not talking about the obvious 10+ fails a post receives, those 1-2 fails that never get explained. they just use it because it differs from their opinion.
fail button is fucking fail,
ex/ i love arash grand master design work. i think he will have a lot coming for him in the future and i would glady purchase a aston martin-lookalike paper mache bumper for no less than 1000$ just because people have different taste , doesnt mean they should get failed.
:troll:
Oleophobic
12-23-2010, 12:28 AM
^
yeah I know but I thought skinnypup was considered an admin since he was here since the beginning and contributes a lot to the site too like mobile and then the fail button. I also never saw the fail button under his posts ever since the beginning so I figured he was immune.
of course I might be remembering wrong or he changed things by the time I saw his thread.
SkinnyPupp
12-23-2010, 03:46 AM
Admins had fail disabled from the very beginning, because I thought it would lead to conflict and I was certainly right. I know you guys too well ;)
Mods had fail removed for the same reason. We are the ones running the site, and basically I didn't want some butt-hurt trolls causing even more problems.
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ZhangFei
12-23-2010, 10:59 AM
who has the most fails? orange7?
spyker
12-23-2010, 11:05 AM
who has the most fails? orange7?
It would have been you,but you stopped posting for a while or were you not banned for like 6 months?
Gumby
12-23-2010, 11:43 AM
who has the most fails? orange7?
As of this post:
ZhangFei:
Posts: 1,912
Thanked 119 Times in 58 Posts
Failed 1,153 Times in 107 Posts
orange7:
Posts: 6,616
Thanked 368 Times in 206 Posts
Failed 1,490 Times in 364 Posts
Yes, orange7 has a few more fails than you, but your post to fail ratio is pretty bad... :lol
Oleophobic
12-23-2010, 12:57 PM
After giving it some thought I change my vote.
Bring back the fail button! but have stricter rules for usage
Jsunu
12-23-2010, 12:57 PM
After giving it some thought I change my vote.
Bring back the fail button! but have stricter rules for usage
I am changing my vote to bringing it back just because of this thread:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/japanese-people-can-t633336.html?t=633336
wasabisashimi
12-23-2010, 01:33 PM
personally i could care less about the fail button...if people are that upset about it being taken away, maybe its time for some people to step away from their computer and discover the outside world, theres so much to do out there to occupy your time instead of going through posts and failing people so you can jump on the bandwagon.
you sounded like a windows phone 7 commercial.............Rly, RLy?
Nightwalker
12-23-2010, 02:35 PM
I miss the fail button. I wanted to fail the post announcing it had been removed.
It's not like it actually did anything. On another forum I'm on your ability to post using HTML, make topics, or post at all hang on your buddy/enemy ratio. If too many people enemy you, you're essentially banned from the forum.
asahai69
12-23-2010, 02:54 PM
lol @ 7 pages of discussion over a "fail" button
fliptuner
12-23-2010, 03:01 PM
lol @ 7 pages of discussion over a "fail" button
164 posts but there are almost 60,000 members that it affects so.... not that much, all things considered
OTG-ZR2
12-23-2010, 03:19 PM
I think the button need to be brought back.
Thread's are going to shit and people re-posting things a from the same page.
MindBomber
12-23-2010, 04:34 PM
I think the button need to be brought back.
Thread's are going to shit and people re-posting things a from the same page.
I haven't noticed any threads going to shit, re-posts have always been a problem.
Preemo
12-23-2010, 04:48 PM
Giving unwarranted fails should resolve into points unless a reason is given.
The fail button is a sweet "opinion" button for GTFO without actually having to type anything.
TRDood
12-23-2010, 04:54 PM
If the fail button doesn't come back, we can refuse to use the Thank button :(
or just use "thank" as fails!
spyker
12-23-2010, 05:03 PM
If the fail button doesn't come back, we can refuse to use the Thank button :(
or just use "thank" as fails!
Blackmailing won't get you anywhere....except for maybe points.
OTG-ZR2
12-23-2010, 05:03 PM
I haven't noticed any threads going to shit, re-posts have always been a problem.
This thread, never had a chance. http://www.revscene.net/forums/japanese-people-can-t633336.html
Culverin
12-23-2010, 05:11 PM
If the fail button comes back, I shall celebrate by going through that thread and granting fails when deserved.
It'll make me feel good. :p
TRDood
12-23-2010, 05:15 PM
Blackmailing won't get you anywhere....except for maybe points.
How am I blackmailing?
bcrdukes
12-24-2010, 02:09 AM
This thread, never had a chance. http://www.revscene.net/forums/japanese-people-can-t633336.html
Fight Club needed something to bring it back from the dead. Thank God.
StaxBundlez
12-24-2010, 03:46 AM
sometimes i do shit in hopes to get fails.. just cause it cracks me up.. lol
truthfully it made coming on Revscene a lot more enjoyable. plus it ACTUALLY made me want to go out and look for things to contribute to a lot of the threads (even if it was stupid). Problem here is a lot of people can't take constructive criticism; therefore, it's just easier to have a fail button.
it always struck me as peculiar to have a thanks button.. but no 'dislike' button. I guess if you really don't like it, don't say anything at all right? Everyone wants to be thanked, but they can't handle people thinking what they've posted was dumb.
okay i admit.. there are some assholes who do go and abuse that button... i AM one of them.. BUT ONLY to friends... mainly because it's childish rivalry..
but people need to seriously not get so ass hurt about getting failed.
pls bring it back:D
spyker
12-24-2010, 10:47 AM
Fight Club needed something to bring it back from the dead. Thank God.
I have also noticed how much more livelier this place has become in general.
Instead of people just hitting the fail button,they are now making a post in response to a dumb post.It's actually interesting to open a thread and seeing many posts made on the topic,instead of seeing one or two posts with like 30 fails under them,which is just boring and a waste of time.
I do agree with what others have said,the NSFW section does need the fail button revised.
Berzerker
12-24-2010, 11:16 AM
I have also noticed how much more livelier this place has become in general.
Instead of people just hitting the fail button,they are now making a post in response to a dumb post.It's actually interesting to open a thread and seeing many posts made on the topic,instead of seeing one or two posts with like 30 fails under them,which is just boring and a waste of time.
I do agree with what others have said,the NSFW section does need the fail button revised.
So you would rather have 30 people calling someone an idiot rather than a list of fails? I prefer a list of fails and do you really need to explain a fail. Most times it's pretty self explanatory.
Berz out.
spyker
12-24-2010, 11:37 AM
Berz I would find it way more interesting in reading others opinion on why the OP is being called a idiot,versus just seeing the word "FAIL".
There have been many times where I would see a thread on a topic,it would have like 2 posts made in it,I open the thread and see like 20 fails on the first post,I don't even bother reading it.I just click back to the forum section and browse some more.
Most of the time, however, people will not give their opinion on why they call the OP an idiot. And we'll end up with, as Berz said, 30 posts of "what a tard" without any explanation.
Also, I don't see your second point as a negative. Heaps of fails on an OP speeds up my browsing by labeling the dumb threads.
subordinate
12-24-2010, 12:27 PM
8 pages discussing the pros and cons of the fail button..........
Berzerker
12-24-2010, 12:27 PM
^^ Exactly lol I thank the fails for limiting my time in useless threads and pointless vids.
Berz out.
PiuYi
12-24-2010, 09:41 PM
soooo isn't this poll conclusive? do the mods kno when/if we're getting fail button back?
LiquidTurbo
12-24-2010, 09:53 PM
^
What the fuck do you think this is.. a democracy?
PiuYi
12-25-2010, 01:51 AM
whoops, my bad
drunkrussian
12-25-2010, 07:30 PM
^^ Exactly lol I thank the fails for limiting my time in useless threads and pointless vids.
Berz out.
if there are others like u who like a quick idea of how good a post is (i personally live in the garbage threads) maybe some kinds "rate this thread" quick polling type of system would be useful. would let ppl know the quality of the thread and would allow others to take out their frustrations on the op, i guess in a slightly less harsh way (unless the poll values are "good", "average" and "the op is a fucking cocksucker")
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boss_clad
12-25-2010, 09:05 PM
why don't any of you guys wanting the FAIL button back just shut the fuck up already.
it was taken away for a reason. if many of you idiots didn't abuse it, obviously it'd still be here.
if you wanna complain to someone, get mad at the select few who ruined it for the rest.
LiquidTurbo
12-25-2010, 09:19 PM
why don't any of you guys wanting the FAIL button back just shut the fuck up already.
it was taken away for a reason. if many of you idiots didn't abuse it, obviously it'd still be here.
if you wanna complain to someone, get mad at the select few who ruined it for the rest.
Wow. so boss, man.
TekDragon
12-26-2010, 10:07 AM
why don't any of you guys wanting the FAIL button back just shut the fuck up already.
it was taken away for a reason. if many of you idiots didn't abuse it, obviously it'd still be here.
if you wanna complain to someone, get mad at the select few who ruined it for the rest.
And this is why I miss the fail button. Get your knickers out of a knot. Help me out here, is is many of us who abused it, or a select few who ruined it? I'm not sure which one you're trying to get at here. Then again, a fail would have made this all that much simpler.
Lomac
12-26-2010, 10:58 AM
It's almost amusing at how offended some of you are getting when confronted by those who feel that the fail button isn't necessary... :lol
Kamui712
12-26-2010, 11:09 AM
Fail button was humorous and fun at first, people turned it into something derogatory when they added comments like "OP is such a fag" etc..
This led to people feeling like they needed to be careful when posting to appease the "failers".
IMO fail button was fine until it turned into such a negative tool. It's literally like painting a big target on someone to be failed over and over by other members. RS members should not feel restricted in posting because they're afraid of being ostracized with a fail.
jasonturbo
12-26-2010, 11:12 AM
I think there should be a ratio in place of thanks>fails, when someone is heavy with the fails and doesnt thank enough, they should get the the title of "hater" in their Sig/Avater..
Something like that?
But fail button ftw, some people just need to be failed, saves me the trouble of writing a post about why they suck.
actually first thing i realized once the fail disappeared was the lower quality of posts on RS without the fail button. i was against it, now i think im for it.
LiquidTurbo
12-26-2010, 01:43 PM
Too bad it didn't make the low quality posters go away. :D haha.
Fail is good for weeding out reposts and shitty posts quick.
However, it's not good if the goal is to have maximum posting diversity.
MindBomber
12-26-2010, 01:53 PM
I'm strongly opposed to the fail button; I've definitely noticed a slightly higher number of low quality posts since the fail button has been removed, but I've also felt RS is much more open. Overall, I think people just need more time to adjust.
actually first thing i realized once the fail disappeared was the lower quality of posts on RS without the fail button. i was against it, now i think im for it.
LiquidTurbo
12-26-2010, 01:58 PM
I still think the best compromise is ONE fail per day.
You can't abuse the fail button if you can only use it once per day. That way, if some gets failed by more than one person, they the post is TRULY terrible. Best of both worlds.
MindBomber
12-26-2010, 02:50 PM
I still think the best compromise is ONE fail per day.
You can't abuse the fail button if you can only use it once per day. That way, if some gets failed by more than one person, they the post is TRULY terrible. Best of both worlds.
The problem is people will still use their ONE fail, to fail someone with an opinion they disagree with. Its only been a couple weeks since the fail button was removed, so before we start discussing alternatives lets see how RS adapts to a life after fails.
drunkrussian
12-26-2010, 03:23 PM
to those saying post quality is shit wihout the fail button:
1. its the holidays. less posts
2. give it two weeks for everyone to adjust and i guarantee i
post quantity and quality will be the same
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new ground rules.
RS staff
Berzerker
12-26-2010, 07:45 PM
HOLY SHIT FAIL IS BACK!!!!
Berz out.
TRDood
12-26-2010, 07:57 PM
WOOT!
sonick
12-26-2010, 08:10 PM
Told you guys it was just a Christmas thing.
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MindBomber
12-26-2010, 08:16 PM
I'm disappointed that the fail button is back, but I guess things will just go back to normal now.
1exotic
12-26-2010, 08:21 PM
awesome
spyker
12-26-2010, 08:27 PM
I guess we will have to see how the new rules will come into play for the return of the fail button.
Soundy
12-26-2010, 08:46 PM
Back to censoring my posts to appeal to the masses. What a huge disappointment that RS was never even given a chance to fully adjust to life without fails, I was really enjoying the significant decrease in negativity.
Wake up. The FAIL and THANKS buttons MEAN NOTHING AT ALL. They're just there for fun. You don't lose access or get points or gain or lose any sort of "rankings" for either of them. If someone FAILs you... SO THE FUCK WHAT?
Are you really that thin-skinned that it actually affects your ability to post? If so, if what others think of your posts means THAT much to you, then you probably don't have anything worthwhile to add anyway.
sonick
12-26-2010, 08:49 PM
Wake up. The FAIL and THANKS buttons MEAN NOTHING AT ALL. They're just there for fun. You don't lose access or get points or gain or lose any sort of "rankings" for either of them. If someone FAILs you... SO THE FUCK WHAT?
Are you really that thin-skinned that it actually affects your ability to post? If so, if what others think of your posts means THAT much to you, then you probably don't have anything worthwhile to add anyway.
Thanks x1000.
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LiquidTurbo
12-26-2010, 08:55 PM
new ground rules.
RS staff
Might wanna elaborate what the 'new' rules are...
snowball
12-26-2010, 08:57 PM
Wake up. The FAIL and THANKS buttons MEAN NOTHING AT ALL. They're just there for fun. You don't lose access or get points or gain or lose any sort of "rankings" for either of them. If someone FAILs you... SO THE FUCK WHAT?
Are you really that thin-skinned that it actually affects your ability to post? If so, if what others think of your posts means THAT much to you, then you probably don't have anything worthwhile to add anyway.
Damn right, way better than a fail system. People are too self-conscious about their internet identity.
LiquidTurbo
12-26-2010, 09:05 PM
Cut the guy some slack. The dude only joined RS Oct 2010. He was never around before there were no fails. LOL.
you can actually thank orgasm donor, niteraven, and rb. they made the first major decision as admins, i implimented the change, it sparked a good debate and made it aware that changes to the system were needed. if the initial action was not made, the fail would have gotten way too out of hand, and it would have just straight out be canned, instead it was caught early enough that changes could be made.
new ground rules, limits per day on how many fails u can give.
limits on which forums are failable are the 2 that come to mind.
each member has the ability to fail 5 times per day.
each post has a fail lifetimer for a duration of 7 days, once passed it will be unfailable.
previous regulations on fails still stand, and will be more aggressively enforced in the future. DO NOT ABUSE IT! Aside from having the ability to remove it permanently for all, we also have the ban button.
I still encourage that if you were to fail someone, atleast have the good sense to state why.
certain forums have no fail ability.
possibility of yet another button to supplement the fail/thanks button. TBA.
we'll give it another go with the fail/thanks system, and hope it will have good outcomes. otherwise, happy posting and REMEMBER it is just a novelty tool.
umm, fail button was introduced less than a year ago.
RS has been around for a decade. it survived and evolved for 9 whole years before fail button was introduced.
Back to censoring my posts to appeal to the masses. What a huge disappointment that RS was never even given a chance to fully adjust to life without fails, I was really enjoying the significant decrease in negativity.
moderators, admins, all higher ups are still and will be unfailable.
DEAL WITH IT
Soundy
12-26-2010, 10:49 PM
possibility of yet another button to supplement the fail/thanks button. TBA.
Needs a "MEH" button for truly mediocre posts.
And I still say the Thanks button should be renamed to a WIN button. Makes much more sense: FAIL/MEH/WIN
Cillu
12-26-2010, 10:56 PM
^I like that idea.
Cman333
12-26-2010, 10:59 PM
Why do people even care so much that they're getting failed? You say something stupid, you get failed. Its no different from calling someone a moron on the internet. Oh noes... azntriadcivicboy604 called bigtymgangsta123 a homo.
I find it more humorous than anything.
People just need to lighten up and stupid people need to stop being stupid.
Well maybe not, stupid people are entertaining. :)
hchang
12-26-2010, 11:03 PM
You're welcome Revscene, for starting the debate :)
Soundy
12-26-2010, 11:20 PM
You're welcome Revscene, for starting the debate :)
Fuck the debate, your avatar is WIN.
MindBomber
12-26-2010, 11:22 PM
Wake up. The FAIL and THANKS buttons MEAN NOTHING AT ALL. They're just there for fun. You don't lose access or get points or gain or lose any sort of "rankings" for either of them. If someone FAILs you... SO THE FUCK WHAT?
Are you really that thin-skinned that it actually affects your ability to post? If so, if what others think of your posts means THAT much to you, then you probably don't have anything worthwhile to add anyway.
A high fail count affects people's perception of my online identity, which is on some level important to me, I don't want to be the laughing stock of RS after all; I'm not Arash. Is my online identity actually important, not really; its the perception of the peers I interact with using my actual identity that truly matters. I assure you, I have a great deal worthwhile to contribute to the public in general, just not necessarily to this audience.
A fail from some members I take as a compliment.
Cut the guy some slack. The dude only joined RS Oct 2010. He was never around before there were no fails. LOL.
THANK YOU!
umm, fail button was introduced less than a year ago.
RS has been around for a decade. it survived and evolved for 9 whole years before fail button was introduced.
I never experienced RS without fails, aside from this short break, and since a history of the fail button was never posted I only assumed it had been in place for a significant portion of the forums history. Had I been aware it were less than a year old my post would have been different, I plead ignorance?
donjalapeno
12-26-2010, 11:30 PM
people who lost there fail buttons should be given another chance with the new rules applied :)
Renthal
12-26-2010, 11:44 PM
its my birthday today and by far the greatest present is having the fail button back.
:troll:
hchang
12-26-2010, 11:58 PM
its my birthday today and by far the greatest present is having the fail button back.
:troll:
Happy Birfffday :)
Blinky
12-27-2010, 12:15 AM
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we'll give it another go with the fail/thanks system, and hope it will have good outcomes. otherwise, happy posting and REMEMBER it is just a novelty tool.
I'll suggest this to add a touch of humor and reduce the negative overtone - reconfigure the FAIL as a FUUUUUUUUuuuuu button. Same idea, less damning.
Just a thought.
fliptuner
12-27-2010, 12:24 AM
It's a Festivus miracle!!!
TRDood
12-27-2010, 12:54 AM
A high fail count affects people's perception of my online identity, which is on some level important to me, I don't want to be the laughing stock of RS after all; I'm not Arash. Is my online identity actually important, not really; its the perception of the peers I interact with using my actual identity that truly matters. I assure you, I have a great deal worthwhile to contribute to the public in general, just not necessarily to this audience.
A fail from some members I take as a compliment.
THANK YOU!
I never experienced RS without fails, aside from this short break, and since a history of the fail button was never posted I only assumed it had been in place for a significant portion of the forums history. Had I been aware it were less than a year old my post would have been different, I plead ignorance?
I am sorry, a bunch of RS strangers will not care about your internet feelings. :\
And surely, your internet identity means nothing to us... Unless you become a RS legend, like Jeffield or AsNoobAsItGets, that's turning your internet identity to real life crisis. :D
A high fail count affects people's perception of my online identity, which is on some level important to me, I don't want to be the laughing stock of RS after all; I'm not Arash. Is my online identity actually important, not really; its the perception of the peers I interact with using my actual identity that truly matters.
If it makes you feel any better, before this thread, nobody knew who the fuck you were.
Now you're known as the thin-skinned guy who can't take fails cuz u judge ppl based on who you think they are rather than what they say. :troll:
PiuYi
12-27-2010, 01:00 AM
Another chapter in the RS Saga closed... thanks mods
MindBomber
12-27-2010, 01:11 AM
I am sorry, a bunch of RS strangers will not care about your internet feelings. :\
And surely, your internet identity means nothing to us... Unless you become a RS legend, like Jeffield or AsNoobAsItGets, that's turning your internet identity to real life crisis. :D
Then we agree... like my post says its not really that important to me :p
If it makes you feel any better, before this thread, nobody knew who the fuck you were.
Now you're known as the thin-skinned guy who can't take fails cuz u judge ppl based on who you think they are rather than what they say. :troll:
I don't know where your getting that from, not me, Soundy's hackneyed post maybe. Thin skin has fuck all to do with why I don't support the fail, but this discussion has been settled by the mod staff, so time to move on.
How did the admins come up with a limit of 5? I don't think I've ever used more than 5 fails a day.
jpark
12-27-2010, 01:19 AM
^i used it more than 5 times a day on arash's thread :facepalm:
people who lost there fail buttons should be given another chance with the new rules applied :)
so i gather that only certain members were allowed back access to the fail button while others are not?
for one, i don't have it and not sure why.
Soundy
12-27-2010, 07:27 AM
A high fail count affects people's perception of my online identity, which is on some level important to me, I don't want to be the laughing stock of RS after all;
You know what affects your "online identity" and makes you look like a complete douche?
WHINING ABOUT SOMETHING AS INCONSEQUENTIAL AS FAILS.
:facepalm:
You don't want to be a laughing stock? Then don't be the next :noob:.
MindBomber
12-27-2010, 11:59 AM
You know what affects your "online identity" and makes you look like a complete douche?
WHINING ABOUT SOMETHING AS INCONSEQUENTIAL AS FAILS.
:facepalm:
You don't want to be a laughing stock? Then don't be the next :noob:.
You know what makes you a complete douche?
Your obsession over the fact that someone disagrees with your opinion on an issue, I never whined, I stated my thoughts. Some people agree with them, some don't; thats just the way life is.
-EuroRSN-
12-27-2010, 11:59 AM
ITS BACKKKKKK :troll:
ruthless
12-27-2010, 12:05 PM
thanks for bringing it back
LiquidTurbo
12-27-2010, 01:27 PM
You know what makes you a complete douche?
Your obsession over the fact that someone disagrees with your opinion on an issue, I never whined, I stated my thoughts. Some people agree with them, some don't; thats just the way life is.
Way to add fuel to the fire.
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tiger_handheld
12-27-2010, 07:05 PM
Democracy does work at RS :)
Soundy
12-27-2010, 07:19 PM
You know what makes you a complete douche?
Your obsession over the fact that someone disagrees with your opinion on an issue, I never whined, I stated my thoughts.
Complaining about something that has no consequence in real OR online life = whining.
Suck it up, princess.
donjalapeno
12-27-2010, 07:24 PM
so i gather that only certain members were allowed back access to the fail button while others are not?
for one, i don't have it and not sure why.
Its not a bad idea if its used correctly. In my situation when i first joined by the first week i was at 100 posts and i got my fail button the same week asianXL track failed all my posts so i message Aznboi about the situation ( i thought since he was nice on 6thgenaccord.com and since we both own 6th gen accords he could do something for me) however he simply replyed " dont take it seriously, its just the internet." so i thought ok i guess you are allowed to track fail people therfore i failed 10 of asianXL's posts ( i was kinda sketch because i didnt want to get banned) so SkinnyPupp decided to take my FAIL button away because i "abused it" so i explained to him what really happend and even forwarded my convo with Aznboi but unforunatly all mods think alike and he decided not too message me back.
So yes taking away the button from REAL abusers is a good idea however not from people that have good excuses. MODS should research what really happens before taking further action, instead of just flexing their mod muscles. And the what hell is up with mods not replying to messages? i basically messaged most mods and none of them emailed me back and the ones that did just gave me 3 word answers and that was " Talk - to - Skinnypupp"
If i abused my fail button and if they took it away fair and square i wouldnt care as much as i do right now but when things are done unfairly it gets me a little pissed.
Energy
12-27-2010, 07:49 PM
I don't have my fail button back either and I don't remember it ever being taken away before this.
Inaii
12-27-2010, 07:50 PM
Skinnypupp is the only one that is able to take away/give the button back iirc. Which is why they would all be telling you to contact him. No point in wasting people's time.
Oleophobic
12-27-2010, 08:15 PM
Its not a bad idea if its used correctly. In my situation when i first joined by the first week i was at 100 posts and i got my fail button the same week asianXL track failed all my posts so i message Aznboi about the situation ( i thought since he was nice on 6thgenaccord.com and since we both own 6th gen accords he could do something for me) however he simply replyed " dont take it seriously, its just the internet." so i thought ok i guess you are allowed to track fail people therfore i failed 10 of asianXL's posts ( i was kinda sketch because i didnt want to get banned) so SkinnyPupp decided to take my FAIL button away because i "abused it" so i explained to him what really happend and even forwarded my convo with Aznboi but unforunatly all mods think alike and he decided not too message me back.
So yes taking away the button from REAL abusers is a good idea however not from people that have good excuses. MODS should research what really happens before taking further action, instead of just flexing their mod muscles. And the what hell is up with mods not replying to messages? i basically messaged most mods and none of them emailed me back and the ones that did just gave me 3 word answers and that was " Talk - to - Skinnypupp"
If i abused my fail button and if they took it away fair and square i wouldnt care as much as i do right now but when things are done unfairly it gets me a little pissed.
I don't have my fail button back either and I don't remember it ever being taken away before this.
lol same I don't have the button and don't remember it being taken away prior to this. Strange because I didn't use it that often and certainly did not abuse it. Guess I should talk to skinnypup.
hotjoint
12-27-2010, 08:16 PM
shiet, the fail button is back :thumbsup:
donjalapeno
12-27-2010, 08:32 PM
lol same I don't have the button and don't remember it being taken away prior to this. Strange because I didn't use it that often and certainly did not abuse it. Guess I should talk to skinnypup.
just a warning, its gonna take him a good 3-4 months too reply. Thats IF he decides too reply.
ZhangFei
12-27-2010, 09:42 PM
don't jack-off your FAILS now...
Its not a bad idea if its used correctly. In my situation when i first joined by the first week i was at 100 posts and i got my fail button the same week asianXL track failed all my posts so i message Aznboi about the situation ( i thought since he was nice on 6thgenaccord.com and since we both own 6th gen accords he could do something for me) however he simply replyed " dont take it seriously, its just the internet." so i thought ok i guess you are allowed to track fail people therfore i failed 10 of asianXL's posts ( i was kinda sketch because i didnt want to get banned) so SkinnyPupp decided to take my FAIL button away because i "abused it" so i explained to him what really happend and even forwarded my convo with Aznboi but unforunatly all mods think alike and he decided not too message me back.
So yes taking away the button from REAL abusers is a good idea however not from people that have good excuses. MODS should research what really happens before taking further action, instead of just flexing their mod muscles. And the what hell is up with mods not replying to messages? i basically messaged most mods and none of them emailed me back and the ones that did just gave me 3 word answers and that was " Talk - to - Skinnypupp"
If i abused my fail button and if they took it away fair and square i wouldnt care as much as i do right now but when things are done unfairly it gets me a little pissed.
hrm, my fail button was never taken away from me prior to this event and so far i've only given out 25 fails. i have no idea was going on. :confused:
SkinnyPupp
12-28-2010, 01:42 AM
Don't contact me, leave a post in the support forum if you have any questions regarding fail/thanks. If I ever disabled fails, it was because the mods requested it, not because I have some personal issue with you.
If a mod asked you to ask me, then they shouldn't have. Post it in the forum, that's what it's there for.
Oleophobic
12-28-2010, 06:45 AM
Don't contact me, leave a post in the support forum if you have any questions regarding fail/thanks. If I ever disabled fails, it was because the mods requested it, not because I have some personal issue with you.
If a mod asked you to ask me, then they shouldn't have. Post it in the forum, that's what it's there for.
lol but then:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/fail-button-gone-p7243513.html#post7243513
:(
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