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RCubed
12-31-2010, 12:09 AM
Witness Needed: Tonight 9:00-12:30 at Metrotown surface lot, Superstore side.

I parked my STi near the back of the parking lot as shown:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/RCubed/jpg.jpg

Someone scraped their car against my rear right fender, dented and scratched off paint.

Slight paint transfer, looks like it was a black car, or rubber bumper?

If anyone saw anything, please contact me at rcubed [at] phas.ubc.ca
or PM me.

Thanks.

Eatman
12-31-2010, 12:12 AM
aww man, that sucks.. but these sort of cases are hard.. You might as well take it as a loss and try to forget about it.

Armind
12-31-2010, 12:14 AM
Poor STI :(

king_2011
12-31-2010, 12:15 AM
how much do u think it'll cost to fix it urself?

SpuGen
12-31-2010, 12:17 AM
And this, is why you take pics of the cars that parked beside you, along with thier plate after stall parking.

Good luck with it man.
But you're probably gonna need to bite the bullet and just fix it yourself.

RCubed
12-31-2010, 12:19 AM
aww man, that sucks.. but these sort of cases are hard.. You might as well take it as a loss and try to forget about it.
damnit..
Should I even bother with a claim? my deductible is already $1000 and I think the damage looks to be around that much..
how much do u think it'll cost to fix it urself?
$1000ish?
Poor STI :(
Yeah. poor STi..
And this, is why you take pics of the cars that parked beside you, along with thier plate after stall parking.

Good luck with it man.
But you're probably gonna need to bite the bullet and just fix it yourself.
This sucks.. I knew I should've wired my DVR to be on 24/7, not just when my car is running..

rJZx
12-31-2010, 12:20 AM
^I dont know if i am the only one but I am waaay too lazy to take a picture everytime I park.

ilvtofu
12-31-2010, 12:27 AM
Similar damage happened 2 winters ago with my dad's X3, we got it fixed at advantage collision for under $700 maybe under $500 IIRC. but for us it was bumper + fender damage on the corner so your damage might be cheaper to fix.

Eatman
12-31-2010, 12:29 AM
damnit..
Should I even bother with a claim? my deductible is already $1000 and I think the damage looks to be around that much..

$1000ish?

Yeah. poor STi..

This sucks.. I knew I should've wired my DVR to be on 24/7, not just when my car is running..


Just fix it up yourself, it sucks in the beginning, but you'll get over it. I've had my fair share of damages that weren't my fault as well.

FN-2199
12-31-2010, 12:30 AM
This sucks.. I knew I should've wired my DVR to be on 24/7, not just when my car is running..

^I dont know if i am the only one but I am waaay too lazy to take a picture everytime I park.

Digital Video Recorder

What the hell are you talking about?

RCubed
12-31-2010, 12:31 AM
Just fix it up yourself, it sucks in the beginning, but you'll get over it. I've had my fair share of damages that weren't my fault as well.

http://philosophistry.com/scans/2010/okay-face.jpg

TOS'd
12-31-2010, 12:34 AM
Digital Video Recorder

What the hell are you talking about?

Look at post times, 1 min apart. And given that RCubed's post is longer, it probably was not there when ilmatic was replying.

What the hell are YOU talking about?

Euro7r
12-31-2010, 12:48 AM
Let's hope someone spotted you at Metro tonight took a picture of your car and post it in the SPOTTED thread. Track down that dick that damaged your car.

impactX
12-31-2010, 01:12 AM
Don't ever park around the corners where cars are always coming and going to trade paint with your car.

hchang
12-31-2010, 01:18 AM
And this, is why you take pics of the cars that parked beside you, along with thier plate after stall parking.

Good luck with it man.
But you're probably gonna need to bite the bullet and just fix it yourself.

Correct me if i'm wrong... but even if somebody did have pictures of the cars that parked beside them I don't think ICBC will honour it since you don't have solid video evidence or witnesses that actually saw the paint transfer happening.

- kT
12-31-2010, 01:35 AM
^ agreed, i was thinking that too. what's to say the person who was in your picture didn't leave, have somebody else take his spot, and when that person left, that person damaged your car?

only way (imo) anybody would be able to get out of this without paying out of their own pocket is if they found witnesses, or if security cams caught it

to be honest to the OP, i doubt you'll have any luck with witnesses (and metro doesn't have any security cams in any of it's parking lots) given the time that this happened. if it was earlier, you'd probably have a chance since there's always a lot of people hanging out by that entrance, but since the mall was closed, you're going to have to get really really lucky =\

SpuGen
12-31-2010, 01:38 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong... but even if somebody did have pictures of the cars that parked beside them I don't think ICBC will honour it since you don't have solid video evidence or witnesses that actually saw the paint transfer happening.

If you have a picture of the car with the plate, and you file a Claim with ICBC, they'll check the car to see if it's damaged.

If it is, then they get screwed. If not, then you're shit out of luck.

You could also just say that a passerby left a note saying that a car with this plate did it and ran.

Make sense?

Even if, by the time that the car was repaired before ICBC could check it, they'll match the damage to a point of damage, like bumper height, paint code, and any signs of repairs.
As much as we all hate ICBC, thier car inspectors know how to do thier job. Most of them anyways.

RCubed
12-31-2010, 01:38 AM
^ agreed, i was thinking that too. what's to say the person who was in your picture didn't leave, have somebody else take his spot, and when that person left, that person damaged your car?

only way (imo) anybody would be able to get out of this without paying out of their own pocket is if they found witnesses, or if security cams caught it

to be honest to the OP, i doubt you'll have any luck with witnesses (and metro doesn't have any security cams in any of it's parking lots) given the time that this happened. if it was earlier, you'd probably have a chance since there's always a lot of people hanging out by that entrance, but since the mall was closed, you're going to have to get really really lucky =\

Yeah, I figured it was worth a shot.
I was catching the last showing of Tron. Pretty cool movie. Lol.

Euro7r
12-31-2010, 01:40 AM
Sounds like he's outta luck. Ahhh, shit happens :(

Your not the only person going through something like this. Plenty of others including myself have been in this kind of situation.

impulse777
12-31-2010, 01:58 AM
Call metrotown security. Report the exact location where you were parked and see if their cctv covers that exact spot. I've operated cctv at metro before and I know they have cameras covering that area. Might be worthless since the over head cameras most likely wouldn't get the plate but it is worht a shot.

Greenstoner
12-31-2010, 07:10 AM
deductible is your best friend

i parked my car in underground for 20 mins and someone scraped my car before

BlackZRoadster
12-31-2010, 08:38 AM
You could also just say that a passerby left a note saying that a car with this plate did it and ran.



You are a fucking retard, making a false claim? Thats why our rates go up , b/c of scum like u that make false statements.

spoon.ek9
12-31-2010, 09:04 AM
Digital Video Recorder

What the hell are you talking about?

And this, is why you take pics of the cars that parked beside you, along with thier plate after stall parking.

Good luck with it man.
But you're probably gonna need to bite the bullet and just fix it yourself.

^I dont know if i am the only one but I am waaay too lazy to take a picture everytime I park.

this

drunkrussian
12-31-2010, 09:20 AM
^I dont know if i am the only one but I am waaay too lazy to take a picture everytime I park.

lol yeah that's pretty retarded...if ur gonna do that, then might as well not eat out in fear of bacteria, not give handshakes in fear of germs etc.

plus what would taking a picture prove? There could've been 5 black cars that parked and left and re-parked by the time ur done in the mall

RevRav
12-31-2010, 10:15 AM
to be honest to the OP, i doubt you'll have any luck with witnesses (and metro doesn't have any security cams in any of it's parking lots)

You got to be kidding me. 2nd largest mall in Canada....and you think they don't have security camera's covering their parking lots? :damn:

BlackZRoadster
12-31-2010, 10:28 AM
You got to be kidding me. 2nd largest mall in Canada....and you think they don't have security camera's covering their parking lots? :damn:

Metro is the third largest mall in Canada, you are the one who's keeding

SpuGen
12-31-2010, 10:48 AM
You are a fucking retard, making a false claim? Thats why our rates go up , b/c of scum like u that make false statements.

Can you read?

Hey. My car is white. A black car was parked beside me when I pulled in. I come back to my car, and the car that is parked next to me is red. I have black paint transfer and damage on my car. I wonder who did it?

Call ICBC. Give them the plate. They'll call the person and waste an hour of thier time to check the car. If the car shows damage, you've found the culprit. If there's no damage, then you wasted that guy's hour, and nothing happens to that person.

A False Claim would be the Culprit claiming a hit and run with no evidence whatsoever, or finding a car with the same colour and similar damage, then claiming it.

By doing this, all you're doing is pointing the finger in thier direction, and not at them. You have nothing to lose by doing this.

Find the culprit. His insurance pays for damages. Insurance rates go up.
Find the culprit. ICBC finds the car. Settle it out of ICBC. Guy will be more careful next time.
Not the culprit. Your insurance pays for the damage. Rates go up.
No idea who it is. Insurance pays for it. Rates go up.
No idea who it is. Pay for it yourself. Pull $400 out of your wallet to fix the damage, and regret not taking preventative measures.

BlackZRoadster
12-31-2010, 12:23 PM
You could also just say that a passerby left a note saying that a car with this plate did it and ran.

Make sense?



There was no note left by witness, and you are telling him that you could say that when it never happened

That is a false claim

MindBomber
12-31-2010, 12:38 PM
And this, is why you take pics of the cars that parked beside you, along with thier plate after stall parking.

Good luck with it man.
But you're probably gonna need to bite the bullet and just fix it yourself.

A. Who would take thousands of pictures, just to protect against one unlikely scenario.
B. Cars are always coming and going, I don't see how that would reliable evidence in any way.


Will ICBC not allow you to file a claim on damage that occurs in a parking lot?

Fafine
12-31-2010, 01:06 PM
youre outta luck. hit up a bodyshop and ask them for a quote. if it exceeds your 1000 dollar deductable then go icbc and claim it. if it only exceeds it by a bit then don't claim it so it won't be recorded on your cars record.

moomooCow
12-31-2010, 02:16 PM
A. Who would take thousands of pictures, just to protect against one unlikely scenario.
B. Cars are always coming and going, I don't see how that would reliable evidence in any way.


Will ICBC not allow you to file a claim on damage that occurs in a parking lot?

I've taken photos quite a few times simply because I thought the risk of them hitting me was higher.

Things like: shitty parking jobs or preexisting parking scuff marks.

I just figure that it is a lot less hassle if it turns out that I'm right and they do hit me. Better than footing a $300 deductible.

And SpuGen explained it quite well, if you have a picture, I'd hope that ICBC would at least request the vehicle to come in for inspection. All in all, I find it to be worth a shot, others may not.

racerman88
12-31-2010, 04:09 PM
Damn that sucks.
Something similar happened to our MDX a couple of days ago at a plaza in Richmond. We got lucky though b/c someone witnessed the accident. Still sucks though b/c of the inconvenience to us.

rawr
12-31-2010, 04:22 PM
same thing happened to me in richmond. some faggot hit my lexus and popped one side of my bumper. $300 deductible

Alby
12-31-2010, 04:34 PM
Will ICBC not allow you to file a claim on damage that occurs in a parking lot?

they do. my old beat up van was parked in a parking lot and some dumbnuts managed to hit the whole left side from the mid panel to the rear panel ripping off the whole side moulding and leaving green scuff marks all the way across. ICBC told us to pay the deductible to get it repaired.

satek
12-31-2010, 09:00 PM
I got backed into a couple days ago and the guy that did it ran off, I feel your pain.

- kT
01-01-2011, 12:58 AM
You got to be kidding me. 2nd largest mall in Canada....and you think they don't have security camera's covering their parking lots? :damn:

i'm going to admit i made a bit of an assumption by saying that, but i didn't completely assume that before i said it

my friend had his car stolen from the parking lot under the theatres a few years ago, we went to security and they clearly stated that they do not have cameras in the parking lots. whether he meant just that lot, whether it's been changed and they've added security cams, either of those, i don't know

Qmx323
01-01-2011, 01:33 AM
shit dude tough luck

whenever i park in a large lot i'm always worrying about my car even though its somewhat of a beater. it just sucks that when someone does something (even accidentally) they refuse to take responsibility for their own actions.

anyways I hope it all works out for you man, good luck.

MindBomber
01-01-2011, 02:01 AM
I've taken photos quite a few times simply because I thought the risk of them hitting me was higher.

This seems reasonable, but I taking photos every time you park somewhere would be nuts.
If someone scuffs your bumper and doesn't leave a note they are likely trying to avoid paying to fix your car, so if they were called in theres nothing stopping them from putting on a bumper from the wreckers before they go to ICBC and destroying the evidence.

Personally, I just park at the back of the lot..

twitchyzero
01-01-2011, 03:47 AM
park at the back of the lot...risk your car getting stolen.
park in a busy area...risk your car getting hit n' run.

RS members never seem to be happy :troll:

alpinestars
01-01-2011, 09:47 AM
A. Who would take thousands of pictures, just to protect against one unlikely scenario.
B. Cars are always coming and going, I don't see how that would reliable evidence in any way.


Will ICBC not allow you to file a claim on damage that occurs in a parking lot?

icbc will cover you for hit and runs no matter what. it just comes down to who's going to foot the bill for the deductible.

spugens method is flawed as taking pictures of the neighbouring cars alone doesn't prove they caused the damage.

the most logical thing to do would be to ask around for possible video footage. that, along with a picture of the car next to him, would be sufficient evidence to have them foot the bill. but this isn't really practical.

if youre going to take a picture of cars beside yours everytime you park, you might as well have a video camera in your car recording your daily driving.

RCubed
01-01-2011, 02:16 PM
... you might as well have a video camera in your car recording your daily driving.

oh but i do.

aznsuperman
01-01-2011, 02:25 PM
^same here!!

StaxBundlez
01-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Just fix it up yourself, it sucks in the beginning, but you'll get over it. I've had my fair share of damages that weren't my fault as well.

LOL

so true...

you've got no luck with that..

impactX
01-01-2011, 06:31 PM
Can you read?

Hey. My car is white. A black car was parked beside me when I pulled in. I come back to my car, and the car that is parked next to me is red. I have black paint transfer and damage on my car. I wonder who did it?

Call ICBC. Give them the plate. They'll call the person and waste an hour of thier time to check the car. If the car shows damage, you've found the culprit. If there's no damage, then you wasted that guy's hour, and nothing happens to that person.

A False Claim would be the Culprit claiming a hit and run with no evidence whatsoever, or finding a car with the same colour and similar damage, then claiming it.

By doing this, all you're doing is pointing the finger in thier direction, and not at them. You have nothing to lose by doing this.

Find the culprit. His insurance pays for damages. Insurance rates go up.
Find the culprit. ICBC finds the car. Settle it out of ICBC. Guy will be more careful next time.
Not the culprit. Your insurance pays for the damage. Rates go up.
No idea who it is. Insurance pays for it. Rates go up.
No idea who it is. Pay for it yourself. Pull $400 out of your wallet to fix the damage, and regret not taking preventative measures.

OP drove into the spot front-in, and his car's rear right corner got hit when other cars turn right in that corner. It most likely has nothing to do with the car beside him.