[w202]

okay here is the deal. my friend bought a civic, and from the ad described it, it was perfect. however it was far from it. Not only was the car the wrong model, ex instead of an si, as stated, but also has a rebuild status that he failed to mention.

There is a whole list of problems, but I wont get into that. Is there anyone I can contact to get my friends money back? Also I'm pretty sure the guy who sold it to her also repaired it, But its repaired really badly. Is there a way I can revoke his license?

[EmOne]

fucking periods and commas how do they work?

[donjalapeno]

your friend is a idiot for not researching the cars life before buying it. Even if she is a girl and she might not know much about cars its not hard to take the VIN and do a little research, she does however have a guy friend also How the FACK are you going to revoke his license lol

[EmOne]

Your friend is a idiot and so are you.

lol @ revoke license

[cityvanluder]

umm...did you even look at the car when u bought it? Buyer beware, your most likely outta luck, next time have it inspected. The only thing that might save you is that the seller didnt mention that it was rebuilt, but unless ur blind, you should read over the transfer tax form where it says if its a rebuild. Your friend made a dumbass decision and now hes gotta pay for it

[Nssan]

If its from a used car dealership, it will be breaking the law for not disclosing the fact it is a rebuild. On that grounds, he/she could get her money back. How or when is another question. If you bring up the terms: lawyer, court, business license revoked, then you may have a chance in scaring the seller. FYI

[TOS'd]

I've located the source of the problem.Also I'm pretty sure the guy who sold it to her also repaired it, But its repaired really badly.

[1-Slicer-1]

LMFAO, THIS NIKKAH'S GOSTA BE TROLLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xavie]

You fail so hard...

[ruthless]

okay here is the deal. my friend bought a civic, and from the ad described it, it was perfect. however it was far from it. Not only was the car the wrong model, ex instead of an si, as stated, but also has a rebuild status that he failed to mention.

There is a whole list of problems, but I wont get into that. Is there anyone I can contact to get my friends money back? Also I'm pretty sure the guy who sold it to her also repaired it, But its repaired really badly. Is there a way I can revoke his license?

http://forum.grasscity.com/photopost/data/500/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

[rJZx]

Can't blame the guy for hustlin :troll: its your friends fault for being a r-tard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLDitGAUrno

[insomniac]

thought of anthony before i clicked in this thread LOL

[w202]

well she did not tell me she bought a car. she did bring her brother who has just as much as her. And the car is bought from a private seller. Obviously I would be there to see the car if she asked, and yes it is her fault, but is there any possible resolution? The car is unsafe, and the guy can keep continuously rebuilding cars in this condition.

[gloors]

^ same here lol. But seriously did you not look at the car before you bought it...?
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[Jgresch]

Edit: If this was a private sale, read this: Youo must disclose the rebuild status, that is the law in Canada, failure to do so results in a void sale and therefore a refund.


If this was a dealership, read this: Opposed to popular belief, you can contact the VSA google search MDCBC and contact them through there, they protect people buying cars from dealerships. If he didn't discoluse the rebuild title on the bill of sale, your friend can get their money back. The dealer will most likely be fined, if another problem occurs he will most likely have his licence taken away.(Dealer licence not drivers)

To all the people saying look at the car before you buy it, not everyone is a member on revscene and knows a decent amount about cars or what to look for, that's why there are laws in place to protect them.

[Ikkaku]

^ private sale, so that doesn't apply.

[Jgresch]

^fixed after re-reading thread

[greendb7]

Sounds like your friend just walked in and gave the guy her money, and left with the car, without looking at a SINGLE thing
lulz

[Arash]

Not only was the car the wrong model, ex instead of an si,
Save the Ad, if its online, save the page... false advertising or some kind of deceiving fraud charge could be threatened... ask your local RCMP.

[RevRav]

Are you sure 'your friend' does not = YOU? :troll:

[SoulCrusher]

If the seller doesnt disclose rebuilt status or marks no accidents above $2000 when you have proof otherwise (icbc history report) the transaction can be voided. This can be done days or even years after the time of the transaction. Im sure ICBC will steer you in the right direction. Or go by a local Honda dealer- Id imagine theyd give you some advice. As per the guy losing his license --LOL
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[w202]

Edit: If this was a private sale, read this: Youo must disclose the rebuild status, that is the law in Canada, failure to do so results in a void sale and therefore a refund.


source?

yeah I want to take away his license to rebuild cars, not his drivers license. no other car that he touched should be on the road. I know its a lost cause and really hard to prove, and is not worth the time for a car less than 3k.

[Jgresch]

Licence to rebuild cars? lol wut. Google search vehicle declaration bc

[w202]

^ nvm found on vmsa board

[Nssan]

Don't worry about it from what we say, confront it with the seller? and go from there. Last thing is threaten to take the person to small-claims court. money !

[Qmx323]

source?

yeah I want to take away his license to rebuild cars, not his drivers license. no other car that he touched should be on the road. I know its a lost cause and really hard to prove, and is not worth the time for a car less than 3k.

I have some oil change permits for sale

$30 dollars each.

:troll:

[SoulCrusher]

License to rebuild cars... why not take it a step further. Have his ability to reproduce revoke. Thatll really teach him. Dude your really starting to sound like a troll. Moron or troll- which is it?
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[Jgresch]

Declarations and the disclosure of material facts

Written sales agreement for used vehicles must include:

whether the vehicle was brought in for sale from outside the province and the name of any other jurisdiction where the vehicle was registered, if known to the dealer;
if it was used as a police car, taxi, emergency, lease or rental vehicle;
whether the odometer accurately records the true distance traveled or kilometres indicated; and
if the vehicle had sustained damage which cost more than $2,000. from mdc

[spideyv2]

okay here is the deal. my friend bought a civic, and from the ad described it, it was perfect. however it was far from it. Not only was the car the wrong model, ex instead of an si, as stated, but also has a rebuild status that he failed to mention.

There is a whole list of problems, but I wont get into that. Is there anyone I can contact to get my friends money back? Also I'm pretty sure the guy who sold it to her also repaired it, But its repaired really badly. Is there a way I can revoke his license?
so your friend bought a car before actually looking at it or testing it out?

trolol?

[fliptuner]

Tell her to look at the transfer form she signed. On the upper left corner there's a spot to check off if it's been rebuilt, altered, dismantled or salvaged and another if it's been flood damaged. There's also another spot to check off if it's had more than $2000 worth of damage. If it's been declared that it's rebuilt/had more than $2k damage and she signed the bottom, she's SOL.

Edit: I just looked and it's on the upper right corner of the form.

[Jgresch]

^ At least someone knows what's up, half the replys are just "Buyer beware you're screwed!"

[TOPEC]

links to ad?

[fliptuner]

Well, I do have a personal opinion but just decided to post the facts. LOL

[shenmecar]

I bet the seller is rolling on the ground laughing his ass off at the moment.

or maybe hes too wasted after all the celebratory partying.

anyhow, thanks for sharing your friend's stupidity.

[flagella]

http://gatsome.com/images/obvioustroll.jpg

[d1]

from mdc

Does it still apply to cars imported form the states?

[Jgresch]

Does it still apply to cars imported form the states?

Yes, you must indicate that it is from outside BC. If you buy the vehicle from Canada, but it originates in the states it applys. I'm not sure though if you personally import it yourself, but I think they have a similar declaration law.

[umpadupa]

^ knows his shit (and yes it MUST be disclosed)

Just look at the transfer form ( Code APV9T at bottom left hand corner in tiny writing )

Top right hand corner, in the same box as the sellers info, there will also be boxes needed to be checked of by seller. 1)if ever used as a police, emergency police, taxi, lease, rented, etc 2) from out of province? 3) damage over 20% or damage over $2000
4) KMs

Go onto aircare and search up the old info, it will also tell u the past KMs on the car and if the guy potentially rolled back the KMs

also on the top right hand corner (first box) will have vehicle information,
ie reg,make,model,body style, colour, and the really important one in this case is
VEHICLE STATUS. If the seller put a "R" in that box.. ur argument is invalid.

thats all i remember off the top of my head

[w202]

I bet the seller is rolling on the ground laughing his ass off at the moment.

or maybe hes too wasted after all the celebratory partying.

anyhow, thanks for sharing your friend's stupidity.

indeed, a stupid mistake. Anyways update for those who want to know and who have helped.

Yes, she did a full inspection the day AFTER she bought it, and problem came up. Car was out of province and rebuilt. Guy is dodging the calls.

however we found out the car was purchased from icbc salvage yard early dec 2010, And we know which dealer purchased it. However she purchased it 2 days ago from a individual private seller instead. Which leads us to believe that these guys are partners. So that car was bought and "repaired" within less than a month.

I also called the so called dealership, and they denied they even had the car. Until i told him I had proof that they indeed purchased this car from the salvage yard did they cave in and admitted to having the car. They told me it was sold a while ago, however its only been within a month.

so were contacting the links that everyone provided and see how that goes from there.

I also dont want to publicize the name of the dealership just yet, until everything is settled. But just a hint, its in new west.

thank you

[orange7]

:Popcorn

[StealthFighter]

report the seller to the cyber police, so they can dun backtrace it.

[alex.w *//]

holy :troll: thread LOL

[hk20000]

I don't see no case here.

If the transfer form says it's rebuilt but he orally didn't mention anything then legally he did actually mention it - on paper - that it's a rebuilt status.

If your friend bought it signing on A LEGAL DOCUMENT that does state the status of the car being a rebuilt then there is no case. The fact that she did not read through the details of the paperwork before signing on the dotted line does not make the contract unenforceable.

So the only way you'd have a case here is that the car is indeed a rebuilt status car but the copies with your friend and ICBC does NOT have the proper indication that the car was a rebuilt. In that case you can sue for misrepresentation.

Whether the seller is an accomplice with the dealer that bought the vehicle from the ICBC salvage yard is of no concern to this case - the fact is that the legal owner was the guy that sold the car and your friend agreed to the terms set out in the legal document that is the ICBC transfer form, which specifies if the car in question has a rebuilt status. The seller could have bought the car from the dealership knowing that it is a rebuilt status vehicle or, like the OP said, rebuilt it himself. It does NOT matter once a title is not a clean one it'll never be a clean one. Could be rebuilt the next year after the car rolled out of the factory for all that matters.

Live and learn.

/thread.

[oldsnail]

indeed, a stupid mistake. Anyways update for those who want to know and who have helped.

Yes, she did a full inspection the day AFTER she bought it, and problem came up. Car was out of province and rebuilt. Guy is dodging the calls.

however we found out the car was purchased from icbc salvage yard early dec 2010, And we know which dealer purchased it. However she purchased it 2 days ago from a individual private seller instead. Which leads us to believe that these guys are partners. So that car was bought and "repaired" within less than a month.

I also called the so called dealership, and they denied they even had the car. Until i told him I had proof that they indeed purchased this car from the salvage yard did they cave in and admitted to having the car. They told me it was sold a while ago, however its only been within a month.

so were contacting the links that everyone provided and see how that goes from there.

I also dont want to publicize the name of the dealership just yet, until everything is settled. But just a hint, its in new west.

thank you


perhaps the private seller was trying to flip the vehicle?
i have kept cars for a few days before selling them out.

at least your friend can do some basic research next time before they purchase her next vehicle.
ie.
icbc / car proof report - find history and lien of vehicle
basic vehicle research - civic ex vs si. the si emblem is basically written all over the car.. gauges, seats, trunk, grill, 5 spd vs 6 spd.

[RevRav]

basic vehicle research - civic ex vs si. the si emblem is basically written all over the car.. gauges, seats, trunk, grill, 5 spd vs 6 spd.

OR! The seller could had spent $5 bucks and sticked Si emblem all over the car :troll:

[originalhypa]

Hey man, I told you it was a good car. You want your money back? I'm kind of tight now but let's see what we can figure out. I'll be in Van soon with my homies.

Let me know.


:troll:

[InvisibleSoul]

report the seller to the cyber police, so they can dun backtrace it.

Consequences will never be the same?

[FN-2199]

:facepalm:
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[BlackZRoadster]

My friend was the one who sold her the car. I know of this ex pretending to be an SI.

You can PM me the girls phone number and I can call her to see if I can help her getting the transaction reversed.

[cho]

^troll?

[Culverin]

Is it just me? Or do these threads actually supply part of your daily balanced diet of fail and humor? :fullofwin:

[freakshow]

Did the transfer form have an R for the status or not??

[BlackZRoadster]

^ yep it did, it was a rebuilt

[dark0821]

i think the OP sees the "R" in the box and also the EX written on the transfer paper... so :troll:

[buddha1]

anthony e? :troll:

[bloodmack]

First real fail thread of the year?

[orange7]

My friend was the one who sold her the car. I know of this ex pretending to be an SI.

You can PM me the girls phone number and I can call her to see if I can help her getting the transaction reversed.

^ yep it did, it was a rebuilt


at first I thought you were just trying to get the chick's cell number.

then I lol'd.

:bcrdukes:

[underscore]

why the fuck would you inspect it after buying it?

[SkunkWorks]

why the fuck would you inspect it after buying it?

So you can post threads like these. :alone:

[BlackZRoadster]

at first I thought you were just trying to get the chick's cell number.

then I lol'd.

:bcrdukes:

i'm still waiting for the OP to pm me the number

[w202]

PM sent. check inbox Blackzroadster.

[RevRav]

^ HAHAHHAHAHA :woot:

[Euro7r]

How the hell does someone not be able to tell a difference between ex and si model. There are clearly obvious things that tell you it's si or not.

[baggdis300]

from what i read, it was a girl and her brother that new NOTHING about cars...

she should of been smart and spent the extra 100$ and gotten it inspected PRIOR to buying.

[Powerslide]

PM sent. check inbox Blackzroadster.

lol
really?

[orange7]

any update on the situation?

:haha:

[Ferra]

How the hell does someone not be able to tell a difference between ex and si model. There are clearly obvious things that tell you it's si or not.
My mom couldn't tell the difference between a civic and a bmw :fullofwin:
one time she tried to open another person's car she thought was mine just because they are both the same color

[wasabisashimi]

My mom couldn't tell the difference between a civic and a bmw :fullofwin:
one time she tried to open another person's car she thought was mine just because they are both the same color

who is that in your avatar?

[Energy]

Bump. Same situation happening to a friend of mine.

Her dad got her a car then found out the next day that its rebuilt. He specifically asked the private seller many times if it was a rebuild but seller said no. So he signed the transfer papers but did not notice that there was an R in the vehicle status that indicates that it was rebuilt. So while the seller lied verbally, he did put on the paper that it was rebuilt. Is the seller liable at all? I'm guessing not but just wanted to double check.

[gdoh]

he lied but put on the transfer paper it was a rebuilt and her dad signed it anyways??
am i reading that right?

[Energy]

Yes. He believed what the guy said so didn't check the vehicle status part of the tax/transfer form where it says that it was rebuilt. I'm surprised that this even happened but now they have to deal with it and I want to try to help out.

[quasi]

Pretty sure a written contract overwrites a verbal one. It's shady as fuck and will be almost impossible to prove that seller lied about it verbally. Seller will just say he told them and marked it on the transfer papers. If they lied to your friend and her dad they'll lie to a court. A clear case of read the fine print, I think your friend is totally screwed.

[Energy]

Yeah, thats what I thought too. Thanks.

[freakshow]

The transfer form should have the seller's address.

http://newsodrome.com/celebrity_news/remember-disaster-girl-she-grew-up-14-photos-18148817.jpg

[falcon]

Is there a way I can revoke his license?


By reading this part I assume he is a dealer? If so, the answer to your question is yes/no. You can file a complaint with the VSA and they can implement a fine and have them reverse the deal.

Alternatively, if you have proof that you were not told of the rebuilt status and it says "SI" on the bill of sale instead of "EX", you can go to the dealer and demand they "unwind" the deal. If they refuse, threaten them with VSA action. Chances are they will cave.

Now... go do your own research.

EVERYTHING you need to know is on this site. Start reading.

http://www.vehiclesalesauthority.com/

[spideyv2]

Yes. He believed what the guy said so didn't check the vehicle status part of the tax/transfer form where it says that it was rebuilt. I'm surprised that this even happened but now they have to deal with it and I want to try to help out.

Always read before you sign.