[Simplex123]

Prices :
$499.99 for 16GB Wi-Fi
$599.99 for 32GB Wi-Fi
$699.99 for 64FB Wi-Fi

AVAILABLE ON APRIL 19TH

BlackBerry's releasing their first tablet the PlayBook in Q1 !
Looks to be running very smoothly and the UI seems to be easy to use. Sooo excited for it to come out :drool

Some previews here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPof1Ej-EhE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqcMU5YEYJc

Pairing your BlackBerry to the PlayBook:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRjBAyPN2tA&feature=channel

Specs:
http://ca.blackberry.com/playbook-tablet/

[icemiko]

RIM's version of the iPad?!

[aznorris]

finally a tablet that plays flash media. I will be picking one up once these come out in march. To bad the first gen will only have wifi

[Simplex123]

You can pair it with your BlackBerry and get 3G :thumbsup:

[DragonChi]

Hopefully it comes with 3G and has BBM

[Gh0stRider]

meh..nothing special.

[!MiKrofT]

finally a tablet that plays flash media. I will be picking one up once these come out in march. To bad the first gen will only have wifi
All android tablets running froyo play flash..

[mk1freak]

playbook will have BBM once paired to a BB :D

[Euro7r]

Tempted to get one of these.

[threezero]

Real question is whether developer will adopt the platform rather than iOS or android which is alot more establish and have alot more market share.
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[gars]

how many apps do people really download for the iPad though? Most people use it for browsing the web, watching videos, going through photos, and facebook.

Are there any prices released yet? I'm getting pretty stoked about it.

[threezero]

how many apps do people really download for the iPad though? Most people use it for browsing the web, watching videos, going through photos, and facebook.

Are there any prices released yet? I'm getting pretty stoked about it.

you will be surprise how boring and useless ios devices are with stock apps:hotbaby:

[Simplex123]

ANDROID APPS ON THE PLAYBOOK THROUGH AN APP !
http://crackberry.com/press-release-rim-expands-application-ecosystem-blackberry-playbook-android-apps-playbook

ALSO !! The PlayBook is available for pre-order @ Future Shop and Best Buy now.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/category/id/PCblackberryplaybook.aspx

Prices :
$499.99 for 16GB Wi-Fi
$599.99 for 32GB Wi-Fi
$699.99 for 64FB Wi-Fi

AVAILABLE ON APRIL 19TH

[FerrariEnzo]

RIM's version of the iPad?!

they are called tablets.. not iPads.. just coz apple came out with the first device doesnt make every brand "XX version of the iPads"
its like saying all the flip phones are "versions of StarTac" just coz Motorola came out with it first..



very portable indeed..
Micro HDMI out.. haha.. looks nice

I like this.. looks like i might become a BB fanboy!

[!MiKrofT]

ANDROID APPS ON THE PLAYBOOK THROUGH AN APP !
http://crackberry.com/press-release-rim-expands-application-ecosystem-blackberry-playbook-android-apps-playbook

ALSO !! The PlayBook is available for pre-order @ Future Shop and Best Buy now.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/category/id/PCblackberryplaybook.aspx

Prices :
$499.99 for 16GB Wi-Fi
$599.99 for 32GB Wi-Fi
$699.99 for 64FB Wi-Fi

AVAILABLE ON APRIL 19TH
Only repackaged android apps that have been approved by RIM will be available. They'll also be available only through the Blackberry App World.

[!LittleDragon]

they are called tablets.. not iPads.. just coz apple came out with the first device doesnt make every brand "XX version of the iPads"
its like saying all the flip phones are "versions of StarTac" just coz Motorola came out with it first..



very portable indeed..
Micro HDMI out.. haha.. looks nice

I like this.. looks like i might become a BB fanboy!

There were tablets available long before the iPad too. Apple just made the first good looking one. Apple's actually being sued by a Chinese company for ripping off their design that they've been selling since 2009.

[FerrariEnzo]

There were tablets available long before the iPad too.
are you talking about the laptop tablets?


but anyhow.. does the playbook come with dual camera or 3G?

[Manic!]

http://www.fpc.fujitsu.com/www/content/products/Tablet-PCS/images/Tablet-PC-Fujitsu-Family-History.jpg

http://www.fpc.fujitsu.com/www/content/products/Tablet-PCS/History/tablet-pc-history_01.php

[!LittleDragon]

are you talking about the laptop tablets?



No no, not the convertible laptop tablets with the swivel screen. Actual keyboardless tablets. They weren't really mainstream, mostly used in the medical and insurance industries so I really gotta give it to Apple's marketing machine that made them popular.

[FerrariEnzo]

ahh... like for hospitals and stuff..

[LiquidTurbo]

What are some reasons to get this over the iPad 2?

[dangonay]

^ None, really.

The Playbook has one huge advantage, and that's the QNX operating system which makes both Android and iOS look like MS-DOS.

That's also it's biggest disadvantage. The initial lack of support and convincing programmers/developers to start devoting their resources to building applications for it. Sure they can run Android apps, but there's no way they are going to run as well as, or integrate with the OS as cleanly as a native app would. What's the point of having a superior OS if you're using an emulator to run someone else's apps?

I can see this becoming very successful in the enterprise as it would be a far more secure and robust solution than either Android or iOS. The enterprise can also afford to custom develop their own specific apps too, so the lack of initial apps won't really bother them.

For the average consumer, the advantages of the Playbook don't mean much (how many people have heard of QNX?). Having a huge market of apps and countless accessories, cases, vehicle docks and so on is what the consumer wants. And this is what you get with the iPad, iPod and iPhone.

[JesseBlue]

^ in order for developer to start creating for BB, RIM has to pay big $$$ at first...

[Simplex123]

^ None, really.

The Playbook has one huge advantage, and that's the QNX operating system which makes both Android and iOS look like MS-DOS.

That's also it's biggest disadvantage. The initial lack of support and convincing programmers/developers to start devoting their resources to building applications for it. Sure they can run Android apps, but there's no way they are going to run as well as, or integrate with the OS as cleanly as a native app would. What's the point of having a superior OS if you're using an emulator to run someone else's apps?

I can see this becoming very successful in the enterprise as it would be a far more secure and robust solution than either Android or iOS. The enterprise can also afford to custom develop their own specific apps too, so the lack of initial apps won't really bother them.

For the average consumer, the advantages of the Playbook don't mean much (how many people have heard of QNX?). Having a huge market of apps and countless accessories, cases, vehicle docks and so on is what the consumer wants. And this is what you get with the iPad, iPod and iPhone.
Including Android Apps (the ones that are gonna get to the playbook) is just giving consumers a choice and is used to attract people who want a bunch of apps. They never said that there are only going to be Android Apps either.. There are still a bunch of OS6 apps and new "Super" Apps that are made for QNX. This is all going to depend on how RIM deals with the developers and if they are interested and willing to making apps for QNX. Only time will tell how successful they are. I for one am buying a playbook to support RIM, because there will only be more apps if developers see that there actually gonna be people buying their apps. Also, just because people haven't heard of QNX doesn't mean that it's crap. Even you said that it's a superior OS, so if RIM advertises it well, people will eventually know about it. There seems to be an adequate amount of decent apps on the PlayBook already, along with Flash games, web apps and Adobe Air.

The PlayBook has its own cases and accessories. It also has another advantage, the mini-HDMI which makes it very easy to hook up to your TV. The size of the PlayBook is also pretty good because it actually fits in your quite well, unlike the iPad, I find it kind of hard to actually grab onto it with one hand. The iPad2 also feels kinda of delicate IMO because its so slim. CrackBerry says the PlayBook feels a lot sturdier due to it's thickness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjgV2rAZlEc&feature=player_embedded

[Manic!]

What are some reasons to get this over the iPad 2?

You already own a Black Berry and because business still sees the Iphone/Ipad as a toy.

[skyxx]

What are some reasons to get this over the iPad 2?

I'm already sold since it has flash and it syncs up to my Blackberry. The only thing is the price. That's making me put it on hold.

[Manic!]

USB for ther win!!!!

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11058003/1/those-tablet-chargers.html

Those @#$% Tablet Chargers!
Anton Wahlman, Contributor
03/24/11 - 07:47 AM EDT

NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- Remember the maze of cell phone chargers from a just a few short years ago? Yes, you had two drawers full of incompatible chargers for Nokia(NOK), Motorola, Research In Motion's (RIMM) BlackBerry, Samsung, LG, Sony Ericsson and many others. Over the last three years, we evolved into just two ones: MicroUSB and Apple's(AAPL) 30-pin connector. I'd say that's a 90% improvement.

With this disease cured, a new menace has now emerged: tablet chargers. In recent weeks and months, numerous tablets have been announced, and some are already for sale, from companies such as Samsung, Motorola, Dell(DELL), LG and HTC, just to mention a few. With this new world of tablets rushing in to compete with Apple's dominant iPad market share, the world faces a new evil, and this time it's not Saddam Hussein. It's the re-emergence of the incompatible charger, this time in tablet edition.

Seriously, while Samsung, Motorola, Dell, LG, HTC and all the others managed to finally implement a single solution for their smartphones, they suddenly lost their minds with the tablet. At this week's CTIA show (the last day is Thursday), as with CES in January, I looked at all the major new tablet releases and found only headache. What are these guys thinking?

There is one refreshing exception: The RIM BlackBerry PlayBook tablet. It uses MicroUSB, and you can use this MicroUSB to charge any smartphone (except Apple's, of course). If RIM does not use this critical advantage in its advertising for the PlayBook, its marketing people should be fired.

Yes, I know there are some minor caveats to this: Some tablet makers claim that MicroUSB can be used to charge their tablets, but only at a "trickle" (i.e., extremely slow, such as nine hours) rate. But all of them ship with only a proprietary charger, which in turn cannot be used to charge regular MicroUSB smartphones. So for all relevant intents and purposes, my key point still stands in the way that 99% of people would define the issue.

I would love to be proven wrong on this. In fact, it's a big world out there and I may have missed someone who can match the RIM PlayBook in being the only tablet who passes the MicroUSB fast-charging test. If you can verify the existence of one of those, let me know!

I know this is a relatively brief point to make, but I'm shocked that nobody else seems to have talked about it, and it's worth a rant. In the meantime, it looks like RIM has scored at least one important point in its battle against all the numerous Android tablets.

At the time of publication, Wahlman long AAPL, GOOG and RIMM.

[Jmac]

I was hoping for a bigger discount through my work. 15% discount and half off the extended warranty isn't going to entice me enough to keep one. The BB Rep used the term "lucrative" when describing the discount we'd be getting (covering the taxes is hardly lucrative) and he also said BB really wanted the sales guys to have these in our hands (I make a decent paycheque, but most Staples employees aren't going to be able to shell out $476 for a tablet working for $9/hour, especially with the labour cuts this year). Well, I guess I'll be getting one, using it for a few weeks, and returning it unless someone I know wants to buy it from me.

I hope HP offers us a better deal on the TouchPad (assuming I'm still there; I'm hoping I get an Engineering job soon), especially since I'm a big fan of WebOS.

[Jmac]

What are some reasons to get this over the iPad 2? Smaller size, more durable, HDMI out, superior OS, Flash support, syncs w/ BB Smartphones (messaging, video calls, presentations, etc.), front and rear HD cameras (iPad2's front camera is VGA, not HD), enterprise-oriented features (secure syncing, VPN support, etc.; probably won't appeal to average consumer).

While the article that Manic posted is true, I'm not going to use the MicroUSB argument as lots of people have iPods, so they already have charging devices for the iPad2.

Oh, and you don't have to deal w/ Apple's bullshit.

WebOS and, I'm sure QNX (looking like a complete rip-off of WebOS), are leaps and bounds more advanced than iOS and Android. That's the #1 reason for me.

[dangonay]

^ QNX is not a rip off of WebOS - it's been around for 20+ years now. The interface might be similar to WebOS, but that's just a layer on top of QNX.
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[!MiKrofT]

Arguing that a platform is a non contender due to lack of apps and accessories is retarded. Everyone starts out that way. Look at android. They had nothing just a few years ago. The BB functions alone and easy integration are gonna attract corporate users.

[Jmac]

^ QNX is not a rip off of WebOS - it's been around for 20+ years now. The interface might be similar to WebOS, but that's just a layer on top of QNX.
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228) I'm aware of QNX's background.

The QNX system in the Playbook is new and, while it operates differently in the lower levels of the system compared to WebOS, it nonetheless has much of the same features, functionality, and a very similar interface that was not present prior to the Playbook. The Playbook's QNX OS is adapted from the OS they've been using for BMW's iDrive system. Are you going to tell me that iDrive is similar to WebOS ?

I'm not going to say it's a bad thing because, IMO, WebOS is the best mobile OS on the market right now (attached to some of the crappiest hardware and worst advertising). QNX on the Playbook might be better, I haven't used it yet. The guys at our head office I talked to used both (albeit the TouchPad was in an Alpha version of WebOS 3.0) and they liked the Playbook better.

I still haven't been able to get any info from anywhere as to whether or not the Playbook uses an IPS-based LCD panel, which can also be a deal breaker, IMO. BB's rep and retail hotline couldn't tell me and our HO guys had no clue what I was talking about.

[Manic!]

While the article that Manic posted is true, I'm not going to use the MicroUSB argument as lots of people have iPods, so they already have charging devices for the iPad2.


http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MA591G/B?fnode=MTY1NDAzOQ&mco=MTA4NDc4NTY

But spending $21 vs $1 is also a big deal.

[Jmac]

http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MA591G/B?fnode=MTY1NDAzOQ&mco=MTA4NDc4NTY

But spending $21 vs $1 is also a big deal. Blackberry's official MicroUSB cable is $19.99 MSRP.

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=775559&affixedcode=WW

You can get 3rd party Apple cables for a lot less than $20, too. Maybe not $1, but still cheap.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Link-Depot-2m-USB-2.0-to-iPhone-iPod-Cable/15074989?sourceid=1500000000000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15074989
http://www.gizmodorks.com/Apple-USB-Data-Sync-Cable-30-Pin-P135.aspx
http://luckypacks.com/IPHONE-IPOD-ACCESSORIES/USB-to-Apple-30-pin-cable-Luckypacks-short-cables-p23.html
http://www.pinkpine.com/products/iphone-ipod-usb-sync-charge-cable-1
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/for-ipod-style-usb-cable-white-600

$2-$5

[FerrariEnzo]

What are some reasons to get this over the iPad 2?

if you mainly want a tablet device for personal use like games and surfing the net and so on, stay with the iPad, with its vast 3rd party programers.


the best feature of the Playbook IMO is the ability use connect it to your BB phone and use it as if you are on the phone, sending BBMs and so on...
the HDMI out is also awesome

[dangonay]

I'm aware of QNX's background.

The QNX system in the Playbook is new and, while it operates differently in the lower levels of the system compared to WebOS, it nonetheless has much of the same features, functionality, and a very similar interface that was not present prior to the Playbook. The Playbook's QNX OS is adapted from the OS they've been using for BMW's iDrive system. Are you going to tell me that iDrive is similar to WebOS ?

I'm not going to say it's a bad thing because, IMO, WebOS is the best mobile OS on the market right now (attached to some of the crappiest hardware and worst advertising). QNX on the Playbook might be better, I haven't used it yet. The guys at our head office I talked to used both (albeit the TouchPad was in an Alpha version of WebOS 3.0) and they liked the Playbook better.

I still haven't been able to get any info from anywhere as to whether or not the Playbook uses an IPS-based LCD panel, which can also be a deal breaker, IMO. BB's rep and retail hotline couldn't tell me and our HO guys had no clue what I was talking about.

QNX is far better than WebOS. WebOS is basically based off a Linux kernel. While that's not a bad thing, nothing can compete with the core of QNX. There's a reason why medcial devices in hospitals (like life support) and nuclear plants rely on QNX to run their systems. QNX never hangs up, never crashes and is extremely robust. In the rare cases where a problem does arise it can fully recover and continue working without requiring a reboot.

It's also a RTOS (real time operating system) and is used in devices where instant response to events is required. Ever had to wait, even for a second, while Windows sits there and does some background process before it responds to your mouse click? QNX never does this, and its response time can be measured in milliseconds (or even less). Again, this is why it's used in mission critical devices - you can count on it to respond when needed without worrying about some process "hogging" all the resources and making another critical process "wait" before it can respond.

People can argue the Playbook looks like WebOS, but the truth is almost every type of user interface has been used at one time or another in an operating system, web page layout, game interface or phone. It's pretty damn hard to claim you "invented" something when your interface is made up of components that have been in use for years. Putting those components together in a different fashion isn't really "inventing".

Wait, did I just sound like an Apple hater? "Apple never invents things, they just steal others ideas and market them as their own." Guess Apple isn't the only company that does that. :rolleyes:

[dangonay]

Blackberry's official MicroUSB cable is $19.99 MSRP.

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=775559&affixedcode=WW

You can get 3rd party Apple cables for a lot less than $20, too. Maybe not $1, but still cheap.

You beat me to it. The fact is, all companies charge high prices for their own cables & adaptors. I had a Linksys router that crapped out (the one with the power adaptor) and they wanted $39.95 for a new power supply. The router only cost me $69.95. :mad:

[Manic!]

One is a standard cable ued by cell phones, camera's, MP3 payers, portable hard drives and other things made by different manufactures the other is a cable only used with apple products.

[Simplex123]

^ Basically... if you run out of battery and you're at a friends house.. they will likely have both because the MicroUSB is used widely for many products, and many people own the Apple USB due to iPods/iPhones - unless they're an Apple hater.

[FerrariEnzo]

im not an Apple hater but i dont have any apple products

[dangonay]

One is a standard cable ued by cell phones, camera's, MP3 payers, portable hard drives and other things made by different manufactures the other is a cable only used with apple products.

You're trying to create a problem/find a fault where non exists.

If the Apple dock connector was only available from Apple, if Apple refused to release the specification to third party companies or if Apple charged a fortune for "licensing fees" so that third party companies couldn't make cheap Apple dock connectrors, then it might be a problem.

As it sits now it's a non-issue.

[Manic!]

You're trying to create a problem/find a fault where non exists.

If the Apple dock connector was only available from Apple, if Apple refused to release the specification to third party companies or if Apple charged a fortune for "licensing fees" so that third party companies couldn't make cheap Apple dock connectrors, then it might be a problem.

As it sits now it's a non-issue.

But why make a different connector in the first place. Imagine if everyone did that. Having a different cable just adds to the cost of many consumer products.

[Klobbersaurus]

after watching this video, im gonna get a playbook, just gotta find someone to buy my apple gift card

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbZ9iNKw4No

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/01/09/super-impressive-blackberry-playbook-video-demonstration/#more-18096

[threezero]

Playbill looks cool and all but what if i don't have a berry. Does it not play well with android iPhone etc?

[goo3]

I remember seeing QNX as an RTOS in embedded systems years ago. It's a bit of a trip seeing it employed in a commercial device now.

[goo3]

People can argue the Playbook looks like WebOS, but the truth is almost every type of user interface has been used at one time or another in an operating system, web page layout, game interface or phone. It's pretty damn hard to claim you "invented" something when your interface is made up of components that have been in use for years. Putting those components together in a different fashion isn't really "inventing".


I call it creating value in non-technical, more human terms. Doing it on small screen, portable devices has always been a challenge. But what's been done in the past few years on *touch screen input* is actually pretty innovative.

[Narayan]

The playbook actually interest me more then the Ipad and I own a iphone 4... Main reason is the actual size.

7" I can carry it around pretty discreetly... be it to work, friends/family and maybe at my daughters soccer practice.

Only problem is I dont own a BB phone and their current line up imo is crap except for maybe the new BOLD. I dont see any reason to get it if I you dont own a BB due to no 3g/4g, email, etc.

Any idea when their next phone is coming out?

[Simplex123]

Only problem is I dont own a BB phone and their current line up imo is crap except for maybe the new BOLD. I dont see any reason to get it if I you dont own a BB due to no 3g/4g, email, etc.

Any idea when their next phone is coming out?

http://images.crackberry.com/files/kevin/blackberry-roadmap-2011-1.png
http://crackberry.com/exclusive-cdma-blackberry-roadmap-2011-montana-monaco-sedona-malibu-and-blackberry-6-1-evolution

In a future software update for the BlackBerry PlayBook, we will also provide native e-mail, calendar, and contact apps for those customers who prefer to have these apps directly on the tablet.
http://crackberry.com/forums-blackberry-playbook-faq

[lol]

Very slick.. I love the size of this unit. And it runs so incredibly fast. I enjoyed the last video posted.

I'm still wondering if I really "need" a tablet. I mean, it's nice to have but where will I use it? When I am out I will use my BB, when im home, I will use my laptop..

One of the best features has to be the HDMI out!

[!LittleDragon]

Very slick.. I love the size of this unit. And it runs so incredibly fast. I enjoyed the last video posted.

I'm still wondering if I really "need" a tablet. I mean, it's nice to have but where will I use it? When I am out I will use my BB, when im home, I will use my laptop..

One of the best features has to be the HDMI out!


Know what I do with my tablet? lol... it sits on my coffee table while I use the laptop next to it. Good thing I only spent $280 on this thing

[Narayan]

I must say I believe the combo of a BB and the playbook > iPhone and iPad.

iPhone and iPad are basically the same thing with one having a bigger screen.

The BB and playbook differ in that the handheld excels at things like email, text, bbm etc. While the playbook will excel at the media functionality such as web, movies, music,photos etc.

I currently have iPhone but I think once April 19th rolls around I'm making the switch to a bold and playbook combo.
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[mk1freak]

i've been waiting for this puppy to drop for so long now....

but to be honest the new tab2 thats coming out is looking good...real good. especially with google android now taking the top spot for mobile OSes

decisions decisions!

man, sometimes i hate being a techhead..........

[lol]

I want one of these playbooks but I just can't convince myself that I actually need this thing. Like to me its more of a waste of money than anything. To someone else tho, who is always on the go, I guess it would be nice to have. If I drove and was out and about all day i'd prob take it with me but for now I dont see a point owning one. But I still want one lol

[BBMme]

playbook + montana = perfect!
maybe I will wait out a little longer before I decide to switch eh

[VK79]

Getting bored with the iPads and want to get a different OS tablet to pay with. Am pretty attracted by the 7" size as it looks like it could fit in my jackets. Would you guys pick this or Galaxy Tab 7" v2. (Assuming the new tab 7" will have same specs as the 8"/10" and I do not have a BB nor android)

[Simplex123]

I must say I believe the combo of a BB and the playbook > iPhone and iPad.

iPhone and iPad are basically the same thing with one having a bigger screen.
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Not really the same thing because the PlayBook can actually works alongside the BlackBerry where the iPhone and iPad are both stand alone products only.
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[LiquidTurbo]

For business, I think the Playbook is better.

For personal use, entertainment, etc, iPad is much better IMO, with App Store, Book Store, iTunes, etc.

[cliffhanger33]

whats the processor on this?

[!MiKrofT]

I believe it's a Arm Cortex A9 Dual core 1ghz. Similar to Ipad2

[TheNewGirl]

Very slick.. I love the size of this unit. And it runs so incredibly fast. I enjoyed the last video posted.

I'm still wondering if I really "need" a tablet. I mean, it's nice to have but where will I use it? When I am out I will use my BB, when im home, I will use my laptop..

One of the best features has to be the HDMI out!

You know what I just realized, I can use this to stream netflicx onto my TV that doesn't have a PS3 on it.

[Narayan]

Anyone know if Canadian carriers are charging for bridging\tethering your BB to the playbook?
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[TheNewGirl]

Anyone know if Canadian carriers are charging for bridging\tethering your BB to the playbook?
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Bridging, tethering will just use up your phone's data. Meaning while you may have to increase your data plan on your phone, it's not an extra feature or anything.

[josayeee]

Bridging, tethering will just use up your phone's data. Meaning while you may have to increase your data plan on your phone, it's not an extra feature or anything.

Crackeberry posted that one of the american carriers may be charging for bridging/tethering.

[Teh Doucher]

Bridging, tethering will just use up your phone's data. Meaning while you may have to increase your data plan on your phone, it's not an extra feature or anything.

thanks for pointing out the obvious, again.

[Teh Doucher]

I must say I believe the combo of a BB and the playbook > iPhone and iPad.

iPhone and iPad are basically the same thing with one having a bigger screen.

The BB and playbook differ in that the handheld excels at things like email, text, bbm etc. While the playbook will excel at the media functionality such as web, movies, music,photos etc.

I currently have iPhone but I think once April 19th rolls around I'm making the switch to a bold and playbook combo.
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you couldnt be more right,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39d3eOO52dE&feature=player_embedded

i absolutely can not wait for this thing to come out. some might say that its laggy, yes it is, but like most blackberries as time goes on and software updates get released itll be much more smoother.

[Jmac]

I got to play with it a bit at work on Thursday ... The thing feels very beefy; feels like it's much higher quality than the iPad2. The screen is very bright ... at least twice as bright as the iPad2 ... Startup is a little on the slow side, though I'm not sure if that's just a first time thing or normal ...

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to do much on it as it wouldn't connect to Blackberry's servers so I could agree to the License Agreement and actually get in and use it, but I fully intend on trying to find a work around tomorrow while it's slow ... or, maybe, BB might be letting people connect to their servers.

[6insomnia9]

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-bridge

GG
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[Teh Doucher]

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-bridge

GG
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totally shits all over the ipad 3G

[illicitstylz]

Startup is a little on the slow side, though I'm not sure if that's just a first time thing or normal ...

Unfortunately, I was

Blackberry's are notorious for long start up times due to all the security features embedded into their system.

[dangonay]

I was hoping the Playbook would be great, because I'm a huge fan of QNX. However, the reviews I've seen are mixed. Some aspects are great while there are also significant flaws (like no email client - seriously, that's a huge flaw). If you have a BB then the two work great together. If not, the Playbook is not so good on it's own, which I think will limit potential sales.
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[6insomnia9]

It really surprises me how ipad is at its 2nd generation and still does not support flash.

Flash is pretty useful to me as I'm going to be mostly browsing on it and on RevScene we come across a lot of embedded links. I can't wait to get my playbook and do the blackberry bridge :p

And ill get the new device , blackberry bold touch and I'm set until the next berry comes out

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[illicitstylz]

I just got sold on the PB after hearing about BB Bridge.

Will be great for browsing at work without using the computers ( so they can't track your activity etc)

[Peturbo]

It really surprises me how ipad is at its 2nd generation and still does not support flash.

Flash is pretty useful to me as I'm going to be mostly browsing on it and on RevScene we come across a lot of embedded links. I can't wait to get my playbook and do the blackberry bridge :p

And ill get the new device , blackberry bold touch and I'm set until the next berry comes out

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Doesn't surprise me that the iPad 2 doesn't support flash.
I don't see any apple product for that matter, getting flash support anytime in the near future.
Apple just seems to have something against flash. If they were to get it, it would have been done awhile ago.

[Simplex123]

I was hoping the Playbook would be great, because I'm a huge fan of QNX. However, the reviews I've seen are mixed. Some aspects are great while there are also significant flaws (like no email client - seriously, that's a huge flaw). If you have a BB then the two work great together. If not, the Playbook is not so good on it's own, which I think will limit potential sales.
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It will come with a later software update in the future, so just wait for it. Also, reviews are mixed mostly because of the software flaws, which will also be fixed in software updates which will be rolling out quickly knowing its a RIM product. Just check back in a couple of months.

[dangonay]

^ Of course it will come with an update. But updates should be to fix problems, not add features that should have been there at launch. Like the Xoom, which didn't come with Flash when it started selling and the SD card wasn't even functional.

It seems companies are trying to keep up with Apple and are releasing products too early, which could really backfire if something more serious was overlooked.

[Jmac]

It's funny, because if you look at the reviews, a lot of them have the Gmail, Yahoo Mail, etc. apps installed, but they're not available through AppWorld (at least not yet) ... Kind of weird ...

Anyways, I got a chance to use it today for about half an hour. Screen is REALLY nice (a lot nicer than my friend's Motorola Xoom, which we had side-by-side), definitely multi-tasks well, but WebOS owns the crap out of it as far as functionality goes. Even WebOS 1.4.5 (original Pre) has more functionality than QNX, let alone the current versions of WebOS ... I have a gut feeling WebOS 3.0 is going to be years ahead of QNX when the HP Touchpad is released unless Blackberry fast-tracks their feature-sets and functionality via updates ...

The tutorial at the beginning is super-annoying ...

[jeff19]

It really surprises me how ipad is at its 2nd generation and still does not support flash.

Flash is pretty useful to me as I'm going to be mostly browsing on it and on RevScene we come across a lot of embedded links. I can't wait to get my playbook and do the blackberry bridge :p

And ill get the new device , blackberry bold touch and I'm set until the next berry comes out

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http://www.gsmarena.com/adobe_flash_and_ios_the_best_of_friends_sort_of-news-2530.php

Flash will available soon for iOS. One of the reasons why Apple refused to incorporate flash into their devices is because it makes the web experience significantly slower. I've played with the xoom and with flash content enabled, browsing the web does feel alot more sluggish and not as fluid as the ipad.

[dangonay]

Even WebOS 1.4.5 (original Pre) has more functionality than QNX, let alone the current versions of WebOS ... I have a gut feeling WebOS 3.0 is going to be years ahead of QNX when the HP Touchpad is released unless Blackberry fast-tracks their feature-sets and functionality via updates

WebOS will never surpass QNX. Besides, you're comparing apples to oranges. QNX is a real-time mission critical OS. WebOS is based off Linux, which is significanlty inferior to QNX.

What you're talking about are the interfaces on top of the underlying kernel, which is the part that people interact with. It would be easy for RIM to make the interface as slick and functional as WebOS. HP could never make the kernel of WebOS as good as QNX.

[LiquidTurbo]

It really surprises me how ipad is at its 2nd generation and still does not support flash.

Flash is pretty useful to me as I'm going to be mostly browsing on it and on RevScene we come across a lot of embedded links. I can't wait to get my playbook and do the blackberry bridge :p

And ill get the new device , blackberry bold touch and I'm set until the next berry comes out

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Lol you make it sound like the don't know how to support flash. They purposely choose not to support flash. Probably never will.
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[6insomnia9]

http://www.gsmarena.com/adobe_flash_and_ios_the_best_of_friends_sort_of-news-2530.php

Flash will available soon for iOS. One of the reasons why Apple refused to incorporate flash into their devices is because it makes the web experience significantly slower. I've played with the xoom and with flash content enabled, browsing the web does feel alot more sluggish and not as fluid as the ipad.

I could reallly not care if Motorola or any other company makes their own tablet , nothing will ever convince me to buy anything other than the Blackberry Playbook or even the Ipad. For whatever reason apple does not support flash , that is totally up to them, that is one less thing that will convince me to buy apple products. And how slow can it get? I doubt people will start RQing because it loads up 2 seconds slower with flash.

Lol you make it sound like the don't know how to support flash. They purposely choose not to support flash. Probably never will.

Eh, a lot of people use flash , it will be on phones sooner or later.

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[Death2Theft]

Cracking me up the radio ad said that they open at 7:30 so get up bright and early! HAH When the fuck has anyone ever lined up for a crack berry product.
I'll be sticking with my m11xr3 and nexus s combo thx.

[6insomnia9]

Lol? What does your alienware have to do with the playbook?
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[Jmac]

WebOS will never surpass QNX. Besides, you're comparing apples to oranges. QNX is a real-time mission critical OS. WebOS is based off Linux, which is significanlty inferior to QNX.

What you're talking about are the interfaces on top of the underlying kernel, which is the part that people interact with. It would be easy for RIM to make the interface as slick and functional as WebOS. HP could never make the kernel of WebOS as good as QNX. It's been out for 12 hours, how much actual experience do you have with the Playbook, exactly ?

Yes, nothing compares to the Playbook because it runs QNX. Everyone else should stop making tablets because the Playbook runs QNX which is the greatest thing ever. Let's just completely disregard all of its many flaws because it runs QNX. We'll just completely ignore that our first demo unit stopped displaying half the screen on the first day until a reboot and that we had one returned within 3 hours of launch with it stuck on bootup ... because it runs QNX, OS of champions. Want to edit the photos you've taken ? Nope, can't do that, but it's QNX, so it's okay. Want to edit your videos ? Want to take a picture in portrait and be able to view it fullscreen ? Ha, what are you retarded or something ? You obviously can't do that, but it runs QNX, so it's okay. Want to use your POP or IMAP e-mail ? Good luck without a Blackberry phone, but it has QNX, so that's okay. Want to play Netflix on your HDTV ? At least it has QNX, though, right ? Want to have 40 separate browser pages open just for shits and giggles ? Well, you could do that on a Palm Pre w/ 256MB of RAM, but the almighty QNX can't do it with 1GB. Want to do anything most people would want to do ? Too bad, but at least it has a technically superior OS, even though you can do absolutely fuck all with it at the moment.

All hail QNX, new OS champion for the last 12 hours ...

I don't need a lesson about QNX and I certainly don't need 5 lessons saying the same thing I already knew before you even said anything in this thread.

QNX needs updates and apps or it's going to get left in the dust ...

[illicitstylz]

It's been out for 12 hours, how much actual experience do you have with the Playbook, exactly ?

Yes, nothing compares to the Playbook because it runs QNX. Everyone else should stop making tablets because the Playbook runs QNX which is the greatest thing ever. Let's just completely disregard all of its many flaws because it runs QNX. We'll just completely ignore that our first demo unit stopped displaying half the screen on the first day until a reboot and that we had one returned within 3 hours of launch with it stuck on bootup ... because it runs QNX, OS of champions. Want to edit the photos you've taken ? Nope, can't do that, but it's QNX, so it's okay. Want to edit your videos ? Want to take a picture in portrait and be able to view it fullscreen ? Ha, what are you retarded or something ? You obviously can't do that, but it runs QNX, so it's okay. Want to use your POP or IMAP e-mail ? Good luck without a Blackberry phone, but it has QNX, so that's okay. Want to play Netflix on your HDTV ? At least it has QNX, though, right ? Want to have 40 separate browser pages open just for shits and giggles ? Well, you could do that on a Palm Pre w/ 256MB of RAM, but the almighty QNX can't do it with 1GB. Want to do anything most people would want to do ? Too bad, but at least it has a technically superior OS, even though you can do absolutely fuck all with it at the moment.

All hail QNX, new OS champion for the last 12 hours ...

I don't need a lesson about QNX and I certainly don't need 5 lessons saying the same thing I already knew before you even said anything in this thread.

QNX needs updates and apps or it's going to get left in the dust ...
jellysaurus detected.

[JaSoN_520]

QNX may be a superior operating system but what does it mean to the average user? I believe most if not all operating systems in end consumer electronics and computers are not real time. Are we running mission critical tasks that have hard schedules that must be met? Most likely not. iOS may not multi-task nicely, and that's one of its flaws.

On low power mobile processors, QNX may run more efficiently. But these processors are getting more and more powerful to the point where they can run Windows. Everyone here has experience using Windows, OS X, and Linux right? These aren't real time operating systems (though there are real time variants) but yet they still seem to do their job no?

It is like comparing apples and oranges but to the average user its still a fruit, and that's all they will see.

[goo3]

Anyone try it out? It's a good start.

- Platform is good.
- UI on the smaller 7" real estate is very good.
- Multitasking suspends your app
- Still needs SDK with developer frameworks and a rich app ecosystem, obviously
- Flash is nice to have but interaction with touch input is uber fail - Flash is clearly designed to be used with a mouse and the reason why they had to include a youtube app.

Overall, I think it has potential esp with the business crowd.

[dangonay]

I don't need a lesson about QNX and I certainly don't need 5 lessons saying the same thing I already knew before you even said anything in this thread.

QNX needs updates and apps or it's going to get left in the dust ...

Actually, it appears you do need a lesson. You said WebOS was better than QNX and I corrected you. You can't seem to understand the difference between a kernel and layers (interfaces, apps) on top of the kernel. QNX is damn near perfect. The problems with the Playbook are not because of QNX, but because of the UI that's running on it.

I already said the Playbook has many flaws and was rushed to market before being ready. I guess reading comprehension > you.

[Jsunu]

Tried it out, the one MAJOR flaw for me is the fact that the power button is TINY and EXTREMELY hard to depress.

[goo3]

Given a stable os, how often do you need to turn it off? I haven't turned my macbook or iPhone off in ages. Maybe RIM's expecting users to just leave it on.

[Jmac]

Actually, it appears you do need a lesson. You said WebOS was better than QNX and I corrected you. You can't seem to understand the difference between a kernel and layers (interfaces, apps) on top of the kernel. QNX is damn near perfect. The problems with the Playbook are not because of QNX, but because of the UI that's running on it.

I already said the Playbook has many flaws and was rushed to market before being ready. I guess reading comprehension > you. Where did I say WebOS's kernel (which apparently is the only thing that matters) was better ? I said WebOS has more functionality and will be years ahead unless RIM fast-tracks updates that improve the functionality and features of QNX on the Playbook. Reading comprehension > you.

WebOS > QNX at the moment AS A WHOLE ... and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Again, what fucking good is a "damn near perfect" kernel if the system as a whole is completely fucking useless ?

[jeff19]

Tried it out, the one MAJOR flaw for me is the fact that the power button is TINY and EXTREMELY hard to depress.

I found that to be a major flaw as well. the button as tiny as fuck, and the media controls next to it are pretty useless lol. I read that the device can be unlocked by sliding your finger horizontally across the whole screen though, so it might not be too annoying. Overall, the OS was quite fast and everything seemed to work well, especially the multitasking

[Jmac]

Downloading 3rd update in 5 days (1st on Monday before launch, 2nd on Tuesday evening).

Another 215 MB update ... Hopefully adds more functionality ...

On the plus side, my GF took some surprisingly great photos w/ the Playbook. Good cameras on it.

[z2two]

The 7" screen just kills it for me. The extra couple inches other tablets offer enrich the browsing experience so much more. I guess the small form factor is a selling point for some people. Not for me though.

[Gh0stRider]

played with the playbook today. what a piece of crap
who da fuck would buy that shit???

the lack of buttons is major. took a good 1-2 mins of swiping just to exit a program and get back to the home screen.

[k2_alpha]

^ahh you swipe up from the bottom.....
one swipe

[Gh0stRider]

^ahh you swipe up from the bottom.....
one swipe

took us a few thousand swipes in every direction to get it working.

I'd opt for the Galaxy tab/ipad over the playbook anyday

[roastpuff]

played with the playbook today. what a piece of crap
who da fuck would buy that shit???

the lack of buttons is major. took a good 1-2 mins of swiping just to exit a program and get back to the home screen.

RTFM, that's all I have to say. Once I did it became a lot easier to navigate.

You have to remember to start off-screen with the swipes.

[Kim Jong Un]

took us a few thousand swipes in every direction to get it working.

I'd opt for the Galaxy tab/ipad over the playbook anyday

Good to know that playbook is idiot proof.

[Teh Doucher]

took us a few thousand swipes in every direction to get it working.

I'd opt for the Galaxy tab/ipad over the playbook anyday

i was actually like that at first as well until i asked someone at futureshop to get to the fucking home screen. i dunno, if the bridge feature will work with bbm etc flawlessly, then i might get it. i wasnt to overly impressed with it.

now im just the average person here, not some power business type so this tablet may not be for me. i think the ipad is more of a fit for me, screen looked better, a ton more apps etc etc.

[Bender Unit]

CrackBerry anything without BBM is not going to sell period

[LiquidTurbo]

played with the playbook today. what a piece of crap
who da fuck would buy that shit???

the lack of buttons is major. took a good 1-2 mins of swiping just to exit a program and get back to the home screen.

^ahh you swipe up from the bottom.....
one swipe


Lol, looked for your fail button for a sec. LOL.

[insomniac]

lol i couldnt get to the fucking home screen either..
who the fuck will know that you swipe from the bottom up to get to the home screen at first impression?
-it was pretty hard to select text and links and that will take a while to get used to.
-one of the first things that i noticed was the the playbook has no universal search. swiping things was pretty inconsistent too. takes a few swipes to navigate around.
-no portait mode but thats probably coming soon.

did anyone try to reboot it? i thought that booting up takes a bit of time lol and did anyone use it for 5-10 minutes? the back of the playbook gets pretty hot.

unlike the samsung galaxy tablet, you wont be able to fit the playbook in your jacket/coat pocket. so bb couldve either downsized it or make the screen wider by a inch

the playbook is probably better for bb users and the business crowd.. i cant imagine alot of normal consumers buying a playbook.. the playbook cant surpass the ipad in terms of entertainment. its pretty obvious cause the app store has been developing for years. yes, the playbook might be fast, but web browsing is glitchy sometimes and i really wonder how capable it is of handling graphic intensive games with minimal lag like the ipad.

overall i expected more for the price its stickered with and i think it will take some time to get used to using one.

[Jmac]

It takes you through a tutorial when you first start it up, so it's really not a problem when you buy it ... Average user who comes in to use the demo needs a cheat sheet, though.

Swipe from bottom frame up = home screen
Swipe from top frame down = menu
Swipe from side = switch window
Swipe from top corner while in a fullscreen app = check top bar (time, date, messages, etc.)
Volume up + Volume down at same time = screenshot
Hold power + volume up + volume down for 5 seconds = restart

You really only have to remember 3 things, the last 2 are optional ...

Lack of universal search sucks, though they say it's coming in a future update.

To select text, hold your finger on the screen and 2 blue bars will come up. Move the left one to where you want to first start highlighting text, move the second one to where you want to finish highlighting text, then press copy. It's pretty easy.

My Playbook stays really cool ... Maybe they have the screen on full brightness on display ... My GF watched a 1080p version of Avatar over HDMI today and it was probably around 40*C after that 2.5 hours or so ...

Playbook's GPU appears to be faster than the iPad2's ... You can run a 1080p video on HDMI and play Need for Speed at the same time ... I'd say that's pretty damn good ... Video was a little laggy at launch, but they released an update the evening of launch that took care of it. Maybe the display model you used didn't have the update.

Anyways, the Playbook has better hardware than the iPad2 pretty much all around and it has a technologically superior operating system, but it really lacks in the app and functionality department right now and not everyone is a fan of the screen size. Overall, it's has some features that appeal to the general audience (HDMI out, Flash, BB Bridge), but there are too many detractors for the general public to really grab a foothold in that market right now, IMO. I'm pretty sure I'm returning mine in the next couple of weeks and waiting for us to get the Touchpad ... barring some miracle on BB's behalf of getting more useful apps and functionality into the OS in that time frame.

The biggest market here, at least so far, has been Shaw's mobile techs. They've been buying them like crazy because of the size, bridging, and the fact that their website they have to use for work doesn't 100% work on the iPad where it does on the Playbook. Most of them come in replacing iPads or PC tablets.

[6insomnia9]

It is idiot proof is what Jmac's saying
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[LiquidTurbo]

It takes you through a tutorial when you first start it up, so it's really not a problem when you buy it ... Average user who comes in to use the demo needs a cheat sheet, though.

Swipe from bottom frame up = home screen
Swipe from top frame down = menu
Swipe from side = switch window
Swipe from top corner while in a fullscreen app = check top bar (time, date, messages, etc.)
Volume up + Volume down at same time = screenshot
Hold power + volume up + volume down for 5 seconds = restart

You really only have to remember 3 things, the last 2 are optional ...

Lack of universal search sucks, though they say it's coming in a future update.

To select text, hold your finger on the screen and 2 blue bars will come up. Move the left one to where you want to first start highlighting text, move the second one to where you want to finish highlighting text, then press copy. It's pretty easy.

My Playbook stays really cool ... Maybe they have the screen on full brightness on display ... My GF watched a 1080p version of Avatar over HDMI today and it was probably around 40*C after that 2.5 hours or so ...

Playbook's GPU appears to be faster than the iPad2's ... You can run a 1080p video on HDMI and play Need for Speed at the same time ... I'd say that's pretty damn good ... Video was a little laggy at launch, but they released an update the evening of launch that took care of it. Maybe the display model you used didn't have the update.

Anyways, the Playbook has better hardware than the iPad2 pretty much all around and it has a technologically superior operating system, but it really lacks in the app and functionality department right now and not everyone is a fan of the screen size. Overall, it's has some features that appeal to the general audience (HDMI out, Flash, BB Bridge), but there are too many detractors for the general public to really grab a foothold in that market right now, IMO. I'm pretty sure I'm returning mine in the next couple of weeks and waiting for us to get the Touchpad ... barring some miracle on BB's behalf of getting more useful apps and functionality into the OS in that time frame.

The biggest market here, at least so far, has been Shaw's mobile techs. They've been buying them like crazy because of the size, bridging, and the fact that their website they have to use for work doesn't 100% work on the iPad where it does on the Playbook. Most of them come in replacing iPads or PC tablets.

That's a great point. I like it. This will force Apple to up their game. My dream tablet would be a Playbook Style OS and functionality in an iPad form... drool.. that would be amazing.

I really dig the superior screen of the playbook...

[LiquidTurbo]

I thought this review was rather comprehensive :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8NABwD0xa4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJqIiIZAWvc

[canucks_fan2]

I tried it a futureshop when it first came out and I'd say wait till the price drops, it's not worth the asking price currently, plus it just came out so theres bound to be a couple problems/bugs they need to work out first.

[SaviorSelf_666]

I played it for awhile at futureshop. After playing with my galaxy tab and rooting, overclocking, and just playing around with it for the past couple of months I'm too used to it. At 1.4 Ghz its pretty quick the online community is always pushing the Tab more and more with apps and addons.

I however love how fluid the BBPlaybook is. One thing that bugs me is that you kinda have to get a blackberry phone to unlock the full potential of it. Kinda sets me back from actually buying it.

[SaviorSelf_666]

Version 1.0.3 details announced

Saw this on the BlackBerry Blog: BlackBerry PlayBook Tablet OS v1.0.3 Update – Video Chat, BBM, and More! «Inside BlackBerry - The Official BlackBerry Blog

Exciting news! An update to the BlackBerry® Tablet OS is coming to the BlackBerry® PlayBook™ tablet this week. BlackBerry Tablet OS v1.0.3 brings a bunch of new features to the BlackBerry PlayBook tablet, including a Video Chat application and BBM™ support via BlackBerry® Bridge™, so we’ve compiled a list of important need-to-know facts and tips so you can take advantage of these features right after you install the update. Let’s get started!

BlackBerry PlayBook Video Chat

The Video Chat application enables video and voice over Wi-Fi calling between BlackBerry PlayBook tablets in peer-to-peer or enterprise environments using your BlackBerry® ID profile. Here are some of the features I’m really excited about:

• One-Click Calls – With just one click you can make a call from your Video Chat contact list, log of recent calls or simply by entering the BlackBerry ID email address of the person you want to call.
• Incoming Call Notifications – You will receive a notification pop-up when a new video call comes in, allowing you to accept the call as either a video or voice call, or decline the call. For those quiet moments — such as when you’re watching a movie, playing a game or listening to music — you will also have the ability to simply set the “Do Not Disturb” option and the BlackBerry PlayBook tablet will automatically ignore all incoming calls.
• Powerful In-Call Functions – By using the picture-in-picture function you can easily preview what your camera is seeing prior to placing the call to see the video feed you will be sending. You can also easily switch cameras from front to rear so your friends can see what you see, and for private moments you can mute/unmute audio or make or take calls using voice only.
• Friends List – BlackBerry PlayBook Video Chat comes complete with a Friends List for maintaining your contacts. A friendly name and a picture can easily be added to a contact to personalize the entry and a Call Log makes it simple to keep track of who called, as well as when and what calls were missed. Friends are added using their BlackBerry ID profile.
• Video Chat Multitasking – Thanks to the power of the BlackBerry Tablet OS and its true multitasking capabilities, video and voice over Wi-Fi chats can continue running in the background while you interact with other applications.
• HDMI Video Chat – In addition to chatting using the BlackBerry PlayBook tablet’s high-resolution screen, Video Chat supports HDMI output when in ‘Mirror Mode’, allowing you to output what is on your BlackBerry PlayBook tablet’s screen to a larger HD television or monitor.



BlackBerry® Messenger (BBM™) Support via BlackBerry Bridge

BlackBerry Tablet OS v1.0.3 expands the BlackBerry Bridge experience to include BBM (woot! Ed.). BlackBerry smartphone users with BlackBerry Bridge enabled can now mirror their smartphone BBM on the BlackBerry PlayBook tablet’s large high-resolution display over a secure Bluetooth® connection. BBM via BlackBerry Bridge features:

• Full BBM Chat Functionality – Either one-to-one or multi-person chats.
• BBM Status Updates – Let your friends know how you feel about your new BlackBerry PlayBook tablet!
• Photo Sharing – Via the BlackBerry PlayBook tablet or your BlackBerry smartphone SD card.
• BBM Alerts – New BlackBerry Messenger alerts will appear on the BlackBerry PlayBook notification ribbon.


Document Editing via BlackBerry Bridge

In addition to BBM, BlackBerry Tablet OS v1.0.3 now adds document-editing support via BlackBerry Bridge to the BlackBerry PlayBook tablet. This means that documents sitting on your BlackBerry smartphone can now be accessed via secure Bluetooth connection, edited on the BlackBerry PlayBook tablet’s large high-resolution display and then saved back to your BlackBerry smartphone. Here are some important aspects of document editing via BlackBerry Bridge to note:

• File Access – Access to your pictures, documents, spreadsheets and slideshows via either email over BlackBerry Bridge or the BlackBerry Bridge files application. With BlackBerry Bridge, you can view photos and office documents and edit spreadsheets and text-based documents.
• BlackBerry® Internet Service Support – When bridged to a BlackBerry smartphone with a BIS service plan, users can select to either save their document locally on the BlackBerry PlayBook tablet or back onto their BlackBerry smartphone SD card.
• BlackBerry® Enterprise Server Support – When bridged to a BlackBerry smartphone operating on a BlackBerry Enterprise Server, documents automatically get saved back to the BlackBerry smartphone SD card to help ensure corporate data is kept secure.


Home Screen Browser Bookmarks

Users can now quickly save a BlackBerry PlayBook Browser bookmark to the PlayBook tablet home screen for easy access. Select the browser bookmark from the home screen, and the BlackBerry PlayBook browser will automatically launch the webpage you want to see!

How to upgrade to BlackBerry Tablet OS v1.0.3

Users who purchase and activate a BlackBerry PlayBook tablet on or after Tuesday, May 3rd will automatically upgrade to v1.0.3 as part of the BlackBerry PlayBook setup process. Existing BlackBerry PlayBook users will be presented with a software update notification on the BlackBerry PlayBook status ribbon, or they can go check for the software update at any time in the settings menu under Software Updates. The BlackBerry Tablet OS update must be performed over a Wi-Fi® connection and will take approximately 15 minutes to complete.

--http://forums.crackberry.com/f222/version-1-0-3-details-announced-611018/

[Jmac]

Yay

Also, they finally released a Facebook app for the Playbook (it just had a link to Facebook at launch).

Now Google Maps, please ... Bing Maps sucks ...

[SaviorSelf_666]

you guys get bing maps to find your location? Seems like my GPS doesnt work at all.

[goo3]

After playing with my galaxy tab and rooting, overclocking, and just playing around with it for the past couple of months I'm too used to it. At 1.4 Ghz its pretty quick the online community is always pushing the Tab more and more with apps and addons.


How does their app library compare to iPad's? What are the best things you can get for the Galaxy?

[6insomnia9]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWS6P3ahWYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNj5esjNVy0

[BrRsn]

Does anyone wanna sell their blackberry playbook box for $10 or $15? I need it for a prank on a friend lol. It's gonna go something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhO-OE931D4

PM Me! I go to sfu bby/I can pick up from your house.

[bcrdukes]

Slightly old thread but just wanted to bump it up to see if any Playbook users have any updates/reviews since its inception. Thanks!

[6insomnia9]

Heard there is a OS 2.0 upgrade soon, big improvements.
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[LiquidTurbo]

But seems like the PB is fast on route to becoming the next HP Touchpad..

[joquio]

I just bought one over the weekend........Hopefully I won't get bored by it already till the OS2.0 comes.

[joquio]

Anyone here still using one?
Help me to get started on some essential apps :D

[Klobbersaurus]

im using one, check out limetrip.blogspot.com, did the update before i could try to install the android app player so i will have to wait for v2

[Klobbersaurus]

im using one, check out limetrip.blogspot.com, did the update before i could try to install the android app player so i will have to wait for v2

[joquio]

im using one, check out limetrip.blogspot.com, did the update before i could try to install the android app player so i will have to wait for v2

Yup, came across that site and bookmarked it already earlier.
Thanks though!

[Klobbersaurus]

anyone updated to os2?

[joquio]

Yes, I did.
Didn't get to play with it much yet.
I'll bring it with me to work tomorrow to play with it more.

cautions though, there are people complaining that Bridge function doesn't work after the update.

BTW, this is only OS2.0 BETA for development purpose. Does not include all functions that will be in the consumer OS2.0 update.

[6insomnia9]

OS2 killed my wifi.

[joquio]

OS2 killed my wifi.

WOAH really?
Mine is fine.

[6insomnia9]

it won't find any networks..

[bcrdukes]

I played with my co-worker's Playbook briefly a few days ago. I didn't go too far in to messing around too much with it but after a 1 hour period, I quite like it, especially the size.

[JaSoN_520]

i downgraded back to 1.0.7. I wanted to leave it on but I couldn't watch any flash videos. just stops downloading.... i think its the wifi issue...

[Tapioca]

I played with my co-worker's Playbook briefly a few days ago. I didn't go too far in to messing around too much with it but after a 1 hour period, I quite like it, especially the size.

The size/form factor is awesome for travel. I'm on the road right now and I really like the fact that I can take it to coffee shops without it being too obtrusive.

The touchscreen is a bit quirky and the browser sometimes crashes on occasion, so it's not as smooth of an experience as the iPad.

[bcrdukes]

The size/form factor is awesome for travel. I'm on the road right now and I really like the fact that I can take it to coffee shops without it being too obtrusive.

Ditto. I prefer this size without looking like an attention-whoring hipster at a coffee shop.

The touchscreen is a bit quirky and the browser sometimes crashes on occasion, so it's not as smooth of an experience as the iPad.

Haven't had any issues with the browser crashing (yet) nor have I had any issues with the touchscreen. I can't quite explain it but I prefer this over the iPad. :suspicious:

[goo3]

^ App switching is more elegant. Their Swedish UI group did an excellent job esp considering the 7 inch screen.

[Tapioca]

^ The finger swipes are a pretty slick way of navigation.

The top Android tablets, like the Transformer, still don't seem as fluid as the Playbook.
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[bcrdukes]

If there is one thing that stands out at our office (only based on my observation and judgement) you can tell there is a certain social demographic where the Playbook appeals to and of course, the iPad users.

[!Yaminashi]

Whats the app situation like for the playbook? What about media? Battery life?

[Tapioca]

Whats the app situation like for the playbook? What about media? Battery life?

Apps are pretty limited. Media capabilities are good as it can play most formats with the exception of FLAC (at least in my experience.) Battery life is decent - probably 4-5 hours with heavy usage (I.e. 2-3 movies back to back)

Also, having the ability to output to HDMI is a pretty neat feature.
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[goo3]

If there is one thing that stands out at our office (only based on my observation and judgement) you can tell there is a certain social demographic where the Playbook appeals to and of course, the iPad users.

who do you see that uses it and who doesn't?

[Razor Ramon HG]

I watch a lot of foreign videos, so the lack of subtitle support disappointed me. I hope they fix it in the upcoming versions, or at least allow me to run an Android app that supports it.

[bcrdukes]

who do you see that uses it and who doesn't?

The ones who like the Playbook are typically the more well-rounded, sophisticated types who have a social life outside of work.

The iPad users are typically the ones who are boring, don't say much and their lives revolve around work.

Again, this was just an observation at my work and the results stood out like a sore thumb.

[Simplex123]

^ hahahahaha
PlayBook = BBM = Friends
iPad = Games = No Life

[JesseBlue]

so no update to the playbook's OS till next year...hmm...

[!MiKrofT]

^ hahahahaha
PlayBook = BBM = Friends
iPad = Games = No Life
Too bad the playbook update doesn't include BBM.

[Simplex123]

^ No big deal for me, since I already have a BlackBerry lol. I don't enjoy using BBM on the PB anyways as I'd much rather be typing on my 9900.. Mainly use the bridge for checking e-mails and browser when I'm out. I think native e-mail and calendar would be much more important to a regular consumer.

[JLC]

Just got my 32gb PB on tuesday.
For the $179 I paid for it (taking into consideration I get my $100 MC rebate), i am extremely happy with it.

I mean the Kindle is supposed to be the next big thing...and at $199 plus taxes for a Kindle, the 32gb PB is FAR SUPERIOR at a price of $179 with taxes all in! (a sore spot with the kindle is that it's only being released in the US first, and nowhere else in the world.)

In addition to that, I would take the PB over the Ipad2 anyday. I much prefer the size/form factor, and having spent a good amount of time on both ipad2 and PB, i do love that praactically all sites work as opposed to the ipad. Just disappointed with the constant delays with the OS (and now no BBM on the next OS release is obviously a bummer).

[RRxtar]

$179 for a 32gb?

[6insomnia9]

RIM offers up buy 2, get 1 free deal for the BlackBerry PlayBook to business customers | CrackBerry.com (http://crackberry.com/rim-offers-buy-2-get-1-free-deal-playbook-business-customers)

[Simplex123]

Bell and SaskTel discount BlackBerry PlayBook by $200 | MobileSyrup.com (http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/03/bell-and-sasktel-discount-blackberry-playbook-by-200/)
Deal is till Nov 17th

[6insomnia9]

0S 2.0 update.
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[joquio]

0S 2.0 update.
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???
What are you trying to say?

[6insomnia9]

the developer OS updated again i meant.

[Tapioca]

After reading some of the horror stories from people using OS 2.0 BETA, I don't understand why a regular user would bother with it. The current version works just fine.

Let's face it - all of us have Blackberry phones so why rush into a new OS that will add functionality we already have via Bridge? The most demanded feature, auto-correct, may not even end up in the final version of the OS.

[joquio]

the developer OS updated again i meant.

Ohh I see what you mean now.
Haven't turn on my Playbook for a week now....with I have a blackberry phone to go with it....

[Tapioca]

Courtesy of RFD, a scan from an upcoming Walmart Flyer showing another price reduction. 16 GB units for 199.
[Elect] [WM] Blackberry Playbook $198 , Starting Nov. 18th - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-blackberry-playbook-198-starting-nov-18th-1104350/3/)

There's probably going to be very limited stock, but if you're a BB user and can get your hands on one, you can't really go wrong. The tablet really should have been marketed as a companion to a Blackberry Phone.

[Jegz]

Ok so is there bbm on the playbook? I read that you can bridge your bb so you'll have bbm? And it can tether to my data plan on my phone right?
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[6insomnia9]

^ yes to all.

[Jegz]

Sweet ill guess open mine up tonight. Any car mounts sold locally here? I don't wana wait a week or two ordering online.
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[LiquidTurbo]

from 499 to 198.. :fulloffuck:

[Vansterdam]

ima wait till christmas/boxing day hopefully prices drop even more lol

[Tapioca]

I paid 299 for one and I'm more or less satisfied. The 7" form factor is pretty solid - it slips easily into my messenger bag, or my gym bag and I can hold it with one hand during my commutes on Skytrain. I catch up on newspapers during my commute via BB Bridge. The only app I would like to see is an Economist app, but that's about it. I have the native Playbook Globe and Mail and Vancouver Sun apps.

For $199, this is basically what you get:
- A very capable media player and
- A pretty good web browser
- If you're a BB user, you get email and BBM functionality

I've never used a Touchpad, but unless you're into hacking devices (of course all of RS is since everyone uses Droids), the PB in its stillborn state is capable piece of hardware in my slightly-biased opinion.

[threezero]

For $199, this is basically what you get:
- A very capable media player and
- A pretty good web browser
- If you're a BB user, you get email and BBM functionality

I've never used a Touchpad, but unless you're into hacking devices (of course all of RS is since everyone uses Droids), the PB in its stillborn state is capable piece of hardware in my slightly-biased opinion.

is there any android port for playbook?

[Simplex123]

^ probably not but there are gonna be a lot of android apps in the near future with OS 2.0 since porting an app over is quite easy. This should also help the new BBX phone as it will have the same resolution as the PlayBook (1024x600) so one app would work for all BBX devices.

[nabs]

hmm ill probably get it so i can use it with my work blackberry as well... does it work with any blackberries?

[murd0c]

So you guys think this is worth it to get? I have a BB but I dont know much about what changes have been made recently. I have never had a playbook as well, is a 16gb enough 0or would I be better off getting the 32?

[Simplex123]

hmm ill probably get it so i can use it with my work blackberry as well... does it work with any blackberries?
Any BlackBerry with OS 5 and higher is able to download BlackBerry Bridge and connect it to a PlayBook

So you guys think this is worth it to get? I have a BB but I dont know much about what changes have been made recently. I have never had a playbook as well, is a 16gb enough 0or would I be better off getting the 32?
I have a 16gb and it's enough for me. I already have my BlackBerry which has a 32gb MicroSD, so I just use the PlayBook to store apps and videos. You won't probably won't need to store that many videos on it at once lol
You can sync with BlackBerry Desktop Manager which syncs through your iTunes, or you can just drag and drop. Quite easy.

[Tapioca]

^ probably not but there are gonna be a lot of android apps in the near future with OS 2.0 since porting an app over is quite easy. This should also help the new BBX phone as it will have the same resolution as the PlayBook (1024x600) so one app would work for all BBX devices.

I wouldn't bank on OS 2.0 at all.

If RIM stopped supporting the Playbook today, at $199, it's still a decent deal for BB users.

[murd0c]

So is this deal for sure? I'm tempted to get one at lunch today but I'm kidna worried lol

[bcrdukes]

A very reliable little birdy told me RIM will still be supporting the Playbook. Rumour is they are releasing an LTE-capable unit Q1 or Q2 of 2012.

I just go back from a short trip and I absolutely loved using this thing. In comparison to a Touchpad and iPad, the Playbook is lightweight, ultra portable in size, and has a good battery life which made the trip much easier.

[winson604]

Courtesy of RFD, a scan from an upcoming Walmart Flyer showing another price reduction. 16 GB units for 199.
[Elect] [WM] Blackberry Playbook $198 , Starting Nov. 18th - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-blackberry-playbook-198-starting-nov-18th-1104350/3/)

There's probably going to be very limited stock, but if you're a BB user and can get your hands on one, you can't really go wrong. The tablet really should have been marketed as a companion to a Blackberry Phone.

Looks like in typical RFD fashion people are already buying it up hoping they will honor a price protection so for anyone going the day the sale starts there may already be none left lol.

[murd0c]

Thats what I did. picked up a 32gb at Walmart and I'm not going to touch it and I will go back on Friday. Shit it's going to be hard not playing with it, I actually put it in my boss's office cause I don't want to take it home lol

[Tapioca]

Looks like in typical RFD fashion people are already buying it up hoping they will honor a price protection so for anyone going the day the sale starts there may already be none left lol.

I wish this deal hadn't hit RFD because of the hoarding. I was reading through some of the thread and one guy bragged about how he managed to snag 4 Touchpads during the fire sale! Really? Do you need 4 Touchpads? One is enough for each family I would think.

I swear, some RFD users are no better than soap scum. Anyway, back on topic...
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[nabs]

I bought a 32gb, but am buying two 16gb's that I have on hold soon. gonna return the 32 not worth it.

btw not hoarding one for me and one for my dad. he travels a lot for business too.

[StylinRed]

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/11/14/BBX_BlackBerry_leak.jpg
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/14/2561438/blackberry-london-qnx-picture-leak-exclusive
looks sweet


i only put it in here since it uses qnx

[Simplex123]

It's already posted in the 9900 thread lol
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[winson604]

I wish this deal hadn't hit RFD because of the hoarding. I was reading through some of the thread and one guy bragged about how he managed to snag 4 Touchpads during the fire sale! Really? Do you need 4 Touchpads? One is enough for each family I would think.

I swear, some RFD users are no better than soap scum. Anyway, back on topic...
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All deals will always have hit RFD and the problem is there are so many people on there who will do anything literally to make or save $1. I even see people on there who purposely drive to farther locations just to Price Match and save an extra $2. I know times are hard for some but sometimes I don't know what the fuck some of these people are thinking.

[hotjoint]

All deals will always have hit RFD and the problem is there are so many people on there who will do anything literally to make or save $1. I even see people on there who purposely drive to farther locations just to Price Match and save an extra $2. I know times are hard for some but sometimes I don't know what the fuck some of these people are thinking.

A lot of those people have no lives and all the time in the world on that site :lol

[Tapioca]

All deals will always have hit RFD and the problem is there are so many people on there who will do anything literally to make or save $1. I even see people on there who purposely drive to farther locations just to Price Match and save an extra $2. I know times are hard for some but sometimes I don't know what the fuck some of these people are thinking.

There's a great discussion going on in Off-Topic about young people being stretched. I understand the desire to save a buck, but if you're saving a buck or two on some gadget that you don't really need, well you can see why the majority are fucked financially.

RFD is a good site (and I've found many deals on there I wouldn't normally have), but again, the fucked up users have really done some damage in the world of retail.

[fsy82]

A friend of mine works at the Metrotown Futureshop and he said they will price match and give another 10% off

[Simplex123]

Won't they only price match only if their competitor has stock??

[murd0c]

Won't they only price match only if their competitor has stock??

Yes that is correct

[DavidNguyen]

A friend of mine works at the Metrotown Futureshop and he said they will price match and give another 10% off

10percent of the difference. So that should be around 30bucks for the
16gig. Weoooooo
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[Simplex123]

yeahh only around 188 with tax
LINE UP AT FUTURE SHOP ON THE 18TH hahahah

[winson604]

Won't matter if WM is out of stock unless you find soem dumbass rep at FS or BB who will price match just for seeing the ad alone. Heck even if they have it in stock at WM some managers or reps will try to bullshit you because the price difference is to big and they don't wanna take the hit. Happens all the time. Still debating whether I should try to get one first then try Price Protection.

[nabs]

16gb's are no where to be found, i believe i bought the last 2 from queensborough walmart, apparently some employees were hiding it in the back without purchasing it, and I put them on hold, and the manager said to the employees too bad so sad, lol.

[murd0c]

I wonder what poco walmart has for 16s left

[DavidNguyen]

Hopefully this sale is REAL. So stoked. I wanna use it as
An E-reader lol.

Anyone else using it as one? Prooly so bad for the eyes!
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[winson604]

Hopefully this sale is REAL. So stoked. I wanna use it as
An E-reader lol.

Anyone else using it as one? Prooly so bad for the eyes!
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The sale is real, it's in their flyer. Problem is getting your hands on one. The 16gb will be hard if not near impossible to get but you do have a decent chance to get the more expensive ones if you choose to.

[murd0c]

I just hope Walmart will honor the price change on the one I bought yesterday

[nabs]

Apparently according to a pic from another thread, poco walmart have a huge stack of 16s left.

[nabs]

according to crackberry forums the prices are canada wide and not specific to walmart, lol. so im guessing all retailers are running out of playbooks.

i checked online availability for the 16gb for futureshop. and they are stocked in all locations, flyer comes out tomorrow.

[Simplex123]

I just hope Walmart will honor the price change on the one I bought yesterday
I'm sure they will as long it's unopened. If they won't then just return it and buy it again. They can't say shit then lol

[Vansterdam]

debating if i should hold out till boxing day or not lol

[DavidNguyen]

lol. thats a long wait. iono if i could do that. i was gonna jump on the kobo vox
glad i waited. now the playboook is cheap. im on it.
its fate man. Fate

[murd0c]

I'm sure they will as long it's unopened. If they won't then just return it and buy it again. They can't say shit then lol

yep thats why mines still in the box unopened. the next 3 days are going to suck and I cant even play with it friday night :okay:

[murd0c]

Is getting the rapid charging pod worth it? Found a good deal on ebay for them

NEW/UNOPENED/ORIGINAL - Blackberry Playbook Charging Pod - ACC-39340-303 | eBay (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-UNOPENED-ORIGINAL-Blackberry-Playbook-Charging-Pod-ACC-39340-303-/120805474031?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D63)

also found this cheap case

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case-HDMI-Cable-Guard-Blackberry-Playbook-/150673688118?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D63

Man I love getting baked and buying shit on the net lol

[Simplex123]

I got one off amazon for $41 (2 day shipping included with Amazon Prime) shipped to Point Roberts. It's pretty nice to have it docked on your bedside table or next to your computer. You can then use the charger it comes with to charge your phone as it will charge it twice as fast with the bigger output.
Edit: Charges my 9900 from yellow to full in a little under one hour.

[Simplex123]

199,299, and 399 at Future Shop now too. Starts on Friday in store and online.
Future Shop to slash BlackBerry PlayBook prices, offers it up from $199 | MobileSyrup.com (http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/16/future-shop-to-slash-blackberry-playbook-price-offer-it-up-from-199/)

[murd0c]

Just think all of the money these companys are making with them being able to drop the price $300 at a drop of a hat.

[Jsunu]

199,299, and 399 at Future Shop now too. Starts on Friday in store and online.
Future Shop to slash BlackBerry PlayBook prices, offers it up from $199 | MobileSyrup.com (http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/16/future-shop-to-slash-blackberry-playbook-price-offer-it-up-from-199/)

Oh god... must not.... buy.... tablet....

[winson604]

I'm going to try and get 2 through 2 different methods.

#1 Buy one today at BestBuy and go back Friday to ask for Price Protection. I've done Price Protection on other things before without problems so hope they don't pull some BS because this is a crazy sale.

#2 Order online and select ISPU in which you have 3 business days to pick up or else it's cancelled. I will go in on Friday and even though when I ordered it the price was $499, I don't see how they can charge me that price on Friday when it's clearly not even being sold for that price.

I'm going to ask the Manager when I go into the store today and see if these will fly and if he says yes I'll get his name and if he says no I wil still go through with it and see how they explain themselves on Friday if it doesn't work. Good luck everyone!

[Simplex123]

So you're paying full price online first?
Please let us know how that goes

[winson604]

So you're paying full price online first?
Please let us know how that goes

The one I buy in store will be full price first. The one I do online we will see, I ordered it today at $499 but when I go pick it up on Friday they should sell it to me at $199 because that's the new price. Surely they can't say sorry you gotta pay $499 I would imagine. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

[6insomnia9]

Futureshop will also be selling playbooks at the same price as walmart soon.
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[winson604]

Just came back from BB and spoke with the manager. They said yes they will honor the Price Protection and also honor the ISPU at the new price. Picked up 2 and also have 1 more to pick up on my ISPU. Sweet!

[hypediss]

Futureshop at Robson and Granville has about 10+ of 16Gb in stock so for those wanting to get one they can go there. This was at 12:30pm today.
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[Jsunu]

So you're paying full price online first?
Please let us know how that goes

If I recall you won't get charged for pickup till you physically pick up the item in store. At least that's what it was like before.

[winson604]

If I recall you won't get charged for pickup till you physically pick up the item in store. At least that's what it was like before.

Correct, which is exactly why the manager said it would be fine. Doesn't matter what price it was when you ordered it because you pay when you pick it up and if it happens to scan for a lower price then that's what you pay.

[6insomnia9]

http://n4bb.4654.wpcdn.arcostream.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/futureshop-playbook-drop-602x441.png

Earlier we saw that Walmart Canada had started to slash the BlackBerry PlayBook price by as low as $198 for the 16GB variant. Future Shop is now slashing their pricing for the PlayBook for a 16GB at $199, 32GB hits $299.99 and the 64GB falls to $399.99. The sale supposedly begins this Friday and is available in store or online.


http://n4bb.com/future-shop-drops-blackberry-playbook-price-199

[Jsunu]

Correct, which is exactly why the manager said it would be fine. Doesn't matter what price it was when you ordered it because you pay when you pick it up and if it happens to scan for a lower price then that's what you pay.

That's what I am doing, would be strange if they were to try to charge you for the higher price.

[winson604]

That's what I am doing, would be strange if they were to try to charge you for the higher price.

Yea, considering you pay at the time of pick up I don't see how they could fudge their way out of not giving it to you for $199. Price Protection and price matching stuff they could make up some BS but can't see it for this. If all doesn't work out though I'm not losing any sleep over it.

[Skyline350gt]

Getting mine today than going back for price protection as well lol.

[k3lv]

So if I get this right, you can order online now for store pickup @ Bestbuy, and then pick it up when the sale starts so we get it for the sale pricing?

TIA. I gotta get on this hustle game lol

[Skyline350gt]

Yes you can do that, or you can get it now fuck the hassle of running to different stores trying to grab a 16gb. Get one now and go back to your nearest (place of purchase) and get a price adjustment :)

[wasabisashimi]

^ hahahahaha
PlayBook = BBM = Friends
iPad = Games = No Life

hahaha, what about touchpad users? any description for them??

[wasabisashimi]

how is screen pixel /or color compare to touchpad? besides size. Also processing power wise, does playbook come out on top too?

[murd0c]

fuck this sucks sitting on a brand new up opened playbook and im unable to play with it until Friday afternoon:okay:

[DavidNguyen]

Muhaha. I just bought one. Paid full and gonna get the price match


Everytime I get a new BB. I always have a hard time logging into
My blackberry ID. So frustrating.

I've been tring to log in for 20mins. Keeps saying the name
Is incorrect!!!!.
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[unit]

is this thing any good? 200 is the price of a kindle fire, and you can root that and load custom roms.

[bcrdukes]

If you only want to do basic browsing, view a PDF, Word document, Excel spreadsheet and to check some web based e-mail, watch a movie or TV show, this is fine. But if you want to start doing stuff like customization etc. this would be the worst candidate.

[Tapioca]

Basically, the philosophy around Blackberry Phones (i.e. productivity, little in the way of customization, security, minimalist aesthetics, etc.) is carried over to the Playbook.

If you want customization, stick to Android. If you want a device that just "works", it's either iPad or Playbook.

[skholla]

Going to pick one up for myself and a friend. Ordered one online at Futureshop and the other at Best Buy. Both for in store pickup.

FS has already confirmed the sale. I wonder if BB will drop the price too. If they don't then that means price match and save a few more dollars.
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[Simplex123]

^I'm sure Best Buy has the deal as well cuz winson604 went to BestBuy for both his PlayBooks.

[winson604]

Going to pick one up for myself and a friend. Ordered one online at Futureshop and the other at Best Buy. Both for in store pickup.

FS has already confirmed the sale. I wonder if BB will drop the price too. If they don't then that means price match and save a few more dollars.
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According to RFD the deal is confirmed for WM, Staples, FS, and BB so I'm not too worried about it.

[Simplex123]

This is great news for BlackBerry. So many more people are gonna be on the PlayBook now that the price is set on par with the Kindle Fire. I have a lot of friends and family members now getting on this because of the price. It really is the best bang for the buck. You can get 2 and a half 16GB PlayBooks for the price of one 16GB iPad :fullofwin:

[JayEch]

is this thing any good? 200 is the price of a kindle fire, and you can root that and load custom roms.

speaking of the kindle fire, anyone planning on importing it?

[Skyline350gt]

Just got mine at the source. for 499, getting a price adjustment on friday :)
this thing rocks!! So fun and lying in bed using bbm while surfing on the same device is dope!

[DavidNguyen]

i need help guys!!!

so i cant log into my Blackbeery ID. so i decided to reset my password
it was sent to xxxxx@rogers.blackberry.net
where the heck do i log in to that account? so i can reset my PW

[DavidNguyen]

Just got mine at the source. for 499, getting a price adjustment on friday :)
this thing rocks!! So fun and lying in bed using bbm while surfing on the same device is dope!

DUDEEE
did u get $150 worth of Blackberry accessories? if not go back!!!!

check out the source website.....SEARCH playbook and click on it!!!1

[Skyline350gt]

str8 up eh... ya ill do it tomorrow do u think i can go to any Source?

[Simplex123]

^When did it start? I got mine on October 20th. I'm going back to price adjust on Friday as well. Do you think I would be able to get the $150 worth of accessories as well? :fullofwin:

[DavidNguyen]

Better go back ASAP. Before they remove that DeaL
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[DavidNguyen]

i cant seem to charge my playbook.
man i got a lemon. must return it
DUUU MAHHHHHHH

[6insomnia9]

I just want skype on this fking tablet.
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[nabs]

Im going to keep my 32gig. return 1 16gig, and give one to my dad. I just hope walmart does not have a problem with pm.

[6insomnia9]

All companies usually pm , or else you can easily return the product and go to another retailer and make them lose the sale.

(:
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[terkan]

@ the source $150 free accessories is it any accessories? or is it whatever the hell package they give u?

[winson604]

^When did it start? I got mine on October 20th. I'm going back to price adjust on Friday as well. Do you think I would be able to get the $150 worth of accessories as well? :fullofwin:

I believe it's been talked about a lot on RFD, best of luck sifting through 100+ pages of replies though. The $150 free accessories deal was for the fullprice unit. The new pricedrop apparently does not include these things so the short answer is no you won't be getting them.

[Vansterdam]

trade someone my 32gb touchpad for their 16gb playbook :troll:

[Nlkko]

So the sales starts this Friday? Only Walmart website list sale price and they're out of order.:okay:

Just switched from iphone to BB, gonna get rid of my iphone so I can be free of the Apple cult.:fullofwin:

[unit]

Basically, the philosophy around Blackberry Phones (i.e. productivity, little in the way of customization, security, minimalist aesthetics, etc.) is carried over to the Playbook.

If you want customization, stick to Android. If you want a device that just "works", it's either iPad or Playbook.

blackberrys were terrible at everything other than being a phone and having a keyboard. this thing fails on both those levels.

[!MiKrofT]

If this was a device that just works.. it would be selling like hotcakes and not require constant price drops. The hardware and build is great such that Amazon is using the same oem design. Wonder when it'll hit $99

[Tapioca]

blackberrys were terrible at everything other than being a phone and having a keyboard. this thing fails on both those levels.

Have you actually used the Playbook?

Tablets will never be notebook replacements - they're really just expensive browsers and media players. In these areas, the Playbook is good - I would say pretty good.

I like the PB but I would have never paid 500 for it. At $500, I would have expected it to do a lot more which is why I bought one at $300.
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[bcrdukes]

I think anything Blackberry has a bad stigma so the market won't buy it. :lol

[6insomnia9]

I think anything Blackberry has a bad stigma so the market won't buy it. :lol

That is probably one of the reasons people are avoiding the playbook or anything that is coming out of RIM right now.

Honestly the Playbook is under estimated , much research will tell you that.

[unit]

ive had a blackberry and i know the app store blows. if its just a browser you want then it might be ok. for $200 still not bad.

[6insomnia9]

Andriod apps are a plus too my friend.

[winson604]

I just want something that's portable, plays movies, and has surfing capabilities. I can really care less about apps and all that other stuff as it's strictly a toy that I want to use for travelling, when the gf is using the computer etc. I think this will do just fine for me.

[!MiKrofT]

Andriod apps are a plus too my friend.
It doesn't run all of them and it has to run it inside another app. Now if they could hack Cyanogen onto it I'd buy one lol.

[Simplex123]

It doesn't run inside another app. Android developers port it directly into app world and it would look like any other BlackBerry app.

[6insomnia9]

Yeh in the developer version, andriod is built into the OS now.
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[nabs]

only about 7 more hours, then i have to wait til after work to pm it :(