[Gh0stRider]

VICTORIA (NEWS1130) - Thirty-five new red light cameras will be up and running at intersections across BC on Tuesday. By year's end, an additional one hundred cameras will be in operation.

Nicolas Jimenez, ICBC's Road Safety Director, says they've done a lot of research to target specific intersections. "Intersections where you'd most likely to see the kinds of crashes from red light running that cause injury and death. So these are the head-on collisions and the side impact crashes," he explains.

And all of the cameras have been upgraded. "We're going to have digital cameras at every site and we're going to wirelessly transmit the data."

That means if you run a red light, you'll get that $167 ticket a whole lot faster. ICBC expects about 33,000 tickets to be handed out, up from 23,000 last year.
:speechless:

[Fappin]

People who run red lights shouldn't be driving period

[donjalapeno]

so many situations where i had a truck infront of me therfore i had a blind spot of the light and i saw the camera take a pic but never got tickets haha happend to me like 20 times

[Gh0stRider]

ICBC launched a major expansion of its red-light camera program today, with more locations, better equipment and a much greater chance of getting caught.

The $20-million expansion will see the total number of intersection cameras in the province rise from 120 to 140.

But the actual number of red-light cameras will more than quadruple.

That's because while there were 120 intersections in the old program, there were only 30 film cameras, which were rotated on a regular basis from site to site.

The new program will install fully functioning digital cameras at all 140 sites, significantly increasing the chances of offenders being caught and speeding up the time it takes to send out the $167 tickets.

ICBC has published an online map identifying all 140 locations where the new cameras will be installed.

The insurer says 35 of the 140 sites will go live on today and the remainder will become operational by year's end.

Vancouver will receive the most red-light cameras under the new program, at 46, followed by Surrey (29), Burnaby (11) and Richmond (8).

Overall, Metro Vancouver cities will receive 122 of the 140 red-light cameras.

With new digital cameras at all 140 sites, authorities in theory could catch many times more red-light runners than they did before.

However, ICBC has said that it will not activate all of the cameras all of the time.

"We don't want people to perceive this as a cash cow so you've got to find the balance," Nicolas Jimenez, ICBC's head of road safety, said in an interview last summer. "Because if the public doesn't support these things, then the will to maintain them isn't there. ... We want to really maintain public support for the program while optimizing the benefits."

For that reason, ICBC has said it plans to activate the cameras when they're likely to have the most benefit, such as during the morning and afternoon rush hours.

While the new system will increase the number of cameras more than fourfold, the province has said it is expecting a far less dramatic increase in ticket fine revenue, from $3 million a year to $4.4 million.

To decide where to put the new cameras, ICBC undertook a complex analysis of which intersections in the province would benefit most from a red-light camera.

Road safety engineers looked not only at the total number of collisions at each intersection but also the type.

Certain types of crashes, such as head-on and T-bone collisions, can be significantly reduced by installing a red-light camera.

In contrast, fender benders sometimes get worse if you install a camera, because cautious drivers are more likely to slam on the brakes as soon as the light turns yellow.

ICBC's analysis also looked at the severity of crashes, giving greater weight to those intersections where crashes were most likely to cause severe injury or death.

The 120 intersections in the old program were not grandfathered in. Those that didn't meet the new criteria were dropped in favour of intersections where ICBC thought the cameras would make more of a difference.

Last summer, The Vancouver Sun created a series of interactive maps — at vancouversun.com/crash — showing the most crash-prone intersections in B.C.



Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/ICBC+expands+light+camera+program+with+sites/4092633/story.html#ixzz1AneKPpry

[Anjew]

i'm all for red light cameras.... waaay too many late light gunners in this city.

[gars]

if you're actually running a red light - you're waaaaay to late. There's one thing to run a stale yellow - but another to be either: a) so reckless that you don't care it's a red light and running it anyways; or b) have such bad judgement that you run it accidentally thinking that you still think you're safe to do so.

[Gh0stRider]

lol these cars are way too late

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9fUDOvGTKI&feature=player_embedded

[Alphamale]

so many situations where i had a truck infront of me therfore i had a blind spot of the light and i saw the camera take a pic but never got tickets haha happend to me like 20 times

Perhaps you need to learn how to drive again.

Stay farther back from the truck and take notice of the respective traffic lights that are posted left and right of the street you are on, the ones that are about midway up the post. Knowing how to anticipate traffic patterns/changes helps too.

I've never had a problem, ever.

I hope you get a ticket soon, nub. :fullofwin:

[slammer111]

As dumb as this sounds, and don't get me wrong (I'm all for red light cameras), is there a minimum time for the yellow light to be on here in BC? It looks a little quick at just 3s in that video.

[1exotic]

As dumb as this sounds, and don't get me wrong (I'm all for red light cameras), is there a minimum time for the yellow light to be on here in BC? It looks a little quick at just 3s in that video.

agree.

seems pretty fast...


when driving it seems more than 3 seconds, not exactly sure though.

[jlenko]

As dumb as this sounds, and don't get me wrong (I'm all for red light cameras), is there a minimum time for the yellow light to be on here in BC? It looks a little quick at just 3s in that video.

Quick? Fuck.. when I started driving, it was much faster.. like 2 sec. Then when the red was up, the opposing red went green IMMEDIATELY.

It's only because of all you shitty drivers in Vancouver running all the lights that they made the yellow longer and the opposing green delayed.

[Bouncing Bettys]

I'm wondering if the following scenario goes hand in hand with red light camera enforcement:

Driver A is travelling behind Driver B towards an intersection that where the lights are due to change from green to yellow to red soon. Driver A believes Driver B will continue through the intersection and Driver A believes he might just be able to make it as well. Driver B chickens out at the last second, slams his brakes and tries to come to a stop rather than risk the red light ticket. Driver B slides to a stop but just makes the stop line. Driver A then does not have enough time to react and crashes into Driver B.

[asian_XL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDl6AUhcVrk&feature=related

[Greenstoner]

I'm wondering if the following scenario goes hand in hand with red light camera enforcement:

Driver A is travelling behind Driver B towards an intersection that where the lights are due to change from green to yellow to red soon. Driver A believes Driver B will continue through the intersection and Driver A believes he might just be able to make it as well. Driver B chickens out at the last second, slams his brakes and tries to come to a stop rather than risk the red light ticket. Driver B slides to a stop but just makes the stop line. Driver A then does not have enough time to react and crashes into Driver B.

you dont have to ask this kind of question if you have a safe driving distance between car ahead of you

[gars]

I'm wondering if the following scenario goes hand in hand with red light camera enforcement:

Driver A is travelling behind Driver B towards an intersection that where the lights are due to change from green to yellow to red soon. Driver A believes Driver B will continue through the intersection and Driver A believes he might just be able to make it as well. Driver B chickens out at the last second, slams his brakes and tries to come to a stop rather than risk the red light ticket. Driver B slides to a stop but just makes the stop line. Driver A then does not have enough time to react and crashes into Driver B.

It's called driving defensively. If you are the Driver A - as you're approaching the intersection - you should be able to see if it's a stale light - by looking at the crosswalk lights. If it's still got the walk symbol, obviously you're ok. If it's flashing hand or solid hand, as you're approaching the intersection, you should know that you might need to stop. You should be aware of how close the driver is behind you. If they are too close, you should start slowing a little, maybe tap the brakes so they know you might be stopping. If the lights turn yellow, and you need to stop - you should hit the brakes, just hard enough for the brake lights to show up -then look at your rearview mirror. If the car behind you is WAY too close, and it doesn't look like they'll brake quick enough, then it's not safe to stop. Otherwise, slow down and stop at the intersection.

If you're driving defensively and at a safe speed, you shouldn't have to slam on the brakes to stop at a light.

[twitchyzero]

i'm all for red light cameras.... waaay too many late light gunners in this city.

it's just as bad elsewhere

[buddy]

i wish there are enough red light cameras in every single major intersections, especially in Richmond, people turn left not only on red but even the other direction turn green ...

[Shun Izaki]

there are some lights i swear to god go from yellow to red in less than 1s...

[Jayhall]

anyone have any experience disputing a red light ticket?? I got one at a light in delta, it was a super short yellow (and i know this because I drive the road twice a day) so when I saw the light turn I hit the brakes but locked up my front tires and slid into the intersection. I mean I got a picture of my truck in the intersection while the light was red, I just think if a cop was there he or she could have used their judgment and seen that I did make every effort to stop. And no I wasnt speeding, well not more than 10 over but nothing excesive

[CP.AR]

^ tell them exactly what happened. Iirc red light cameras take more than one picture of your car, so if you really did skid it'll be obvious
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[Jayhall]

ya I got 2 pictures, roads were wet so theres not visible skid marks or anything. Im going in expecting to pay it, but I am hopeful that the judge will be understanding of what happened. I had at the time brand new toyo wlt-1 snow tires so its not like I was running around on bald tires either. Too bad by the time the photos were taken I wasnt on my brakes anymore. See how it goes I suppose

[Gh0stRider]

As dumb as this sounds, and don't get me wrong (I'm all for red light cameras), is there a minimum time for the yellow light to be on here in BC? It looks a little quick at just 3s in that video.

suppose to be 3-4 seconds.

[GabAlmighty]

I want a licence plate hider for my cars, more for toll bridges and what not. But I want James Bond style.

[124Y]

^ This is more baws :D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQXJXwUVJjs

All jokes aside, I'm all for red light cameras. I hate it when I'm trying to make a left turn and some fucker runs the red, leaving me in the intersection when the lights turn green for perpendicular directions.

[keifun]

just saw a car blew past a red light on Broadway/Nanaimo; no flash went off.

guess theres still some cameras that are pretty much dummies.

[Death2Theft]

They need to turn this into a cash cow i'm sick of seeing 3 cars trying to turn left on a yellow. This wont do anything about guys who run the right/left turn lights after the turn lights already turned off tho :(
Nice to see the placement 8 in richmond and like 50 in vancouver lol good work!

[q0192837465]

I think they should activate all the cameras allthe time. I won't complain about it at all. It's the dangerous drivers who'll complain but those r exactly the ppl u want to get. It's not a cash grab at all cuz if u follow the rules, icbc won't ever get a cent from u
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[typ.]

Kingsway and Willingdon's red light camera is nuts. Every time I pass by there's someone running a red. Every time.

[Boostaholic]

What if you lend your car to your friend and he ran a red light? Who gets a ticket? Also, is there points?

[mb_]

^The ticket gets mailed to you. Not sure if it ties up to your license though

[StylinRed]

Only 8 in Richmond? somethings wrong there...

[k3mps]

just saw a car blew past a red light on Broadway/Nanaimo; no flash went off.

guess theres still some cameras that are pretty much dummies.

the cameras are bs.
to be honest, the one on willingdon and kingsway is a bit of a "dummy"
it flashed on me I THINK but it wasnt even red...it turned yellow as i left the white line of the turning lane.
yet the flash went off on me. you guys think im going to get a ticket?

[chunk_stir]

Location map here:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=207242242807103787225.000494510b0891a4641f2&ll=49.194269,-122.923279&spn=0.384105,0.840454&t=h&z=10

[yoon89]

What if you lend your car to your friend and he ran a red light? Who gets a ticket? Also, is there points?

You can nominate the driver at the time of violation.

Source: http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/tickets/paying-disputing/red-light

[falcon]

I'm all for red light cameras. Anything to stop retards from running reds in a straight line and also on the left turns.. fuck I hate it when a semi decides he is going to make a left turn when his light already turned red, causing the other direction advance turn to have to wait and then the advance is gone. Then all those people run reds. It's a snowball effect.

[shtone]

just pray that icbc wont put up speed cams in intersections... pray...

[spades]

Location map here:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=207242242807103787225.000494510b0891a4641f2&ll=49.194269,-122.923279&spn=0.384105,0.840454&t=h&z=10
holy shit look at east van/downtown compared to northvan, i only see 3

[JordanLee]

Thank god my 9500ix has the red-light camera spots on gps. I never run reds but it makes you pay more attention and curbs you from running stagnant yellows. I saw 2 ppl get nabbed yesterday in different locations. I chuckled...
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