[oldsnail]

'TORONTO, Ont. - Target stores will be coming to Canada with the $1.83-billion purchase of Zellers from the Hudson's Bay Company.

The company's plan is to open 100 to 150 stories by 2013.'


http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110113/target-canada-110113/

U.S. retailer Target said Thursday it is buying Canadian discount retail chain Zellers from Hudson's Bay Co. for $1.8 billion.

Under terms of the deal, Zellers locations will continue to exist under that brand name for "a period of time," HBC said in a release. But Target will open 100 to 150 Canadian locations in 2013 and 2014 and assign the rest of Zellers' current network of 220 stores to other retailers.

"This transaction provides attractive long-term value and will allow us to invest substantial capital into our department store and specialty store businesses to continue to drive growth," HBC governor Richard Baker said in a release.

The sale of these leasehold interests is estimated to create over 20,000 net new jobs in Canada and has the potential to generate over $1.5 billion in Canadian economic activity through the renovation of Zellers locations, the release said.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2011/01/13/target-zelles-takeover.html#ixzz1AvVKvGhc

[Vansterdam]

hmm wonder how target will do

[Mr.C]

So HBC is focusing on their core brands instead of trying to go head to head with Wal-Mart. Sounds like a plan!

[TheNewGirl]

I find this an odd move on HBC's part though, as Zellers appears to be doing better then the Bay and Home Sense.

[sonick]

Woo, I love Target.

[Nicotine]

i have to say i saw this one commin a long time ago for some reason.

[hotjoint]

just heard about this. I don't know how I feel about this :lol

[jmvdesign]

How is Target any different compared to Walmart? I just don't see any other small retailers like Zellers, Shopper's Drugmart, London Drugs etc. able to compete with Walmart (except for location I guess).

A quick google of Target vs. Walmart: http://recomparison.com/comparisons/100217/wal-mart-vs-target/

[Jsunu]

just heard about this. I don't know how I feel about this :lol

I don't know what to think about this either....

on one hand I hate zellers.

on the other hand, it is just another example of our eroding Canadian market brand.

[InvisibleSoul]

Interesting... I like shopping at Target down at Bellis Fair whenever I go down there... I think I prefer it more than Zellers...

[Tapioca]

How is Target any different compared to Walmart? I just don't see any other small retailers like Zellers, Shopper's Drugmart, London Drugs etc. able to compete with Walmart (except for location I guess).

A quick google of Target vs. Walmart: http://recomparison.com/comparisons/100217/wal-mart-vs-target/

I have to admit that Wal-Mart does have better prices from time to time on certain things, but Wal-Mart stores are generally pretty miserable places to shop in and you get next to no service. On the other hand, Shoppers Drug Mart stores are actually quite pleasant, they actually provide advice on pharmaceuticals, and they have a very good rewards program. London Drugs generally has staff who actually seem like they want to work there and they have very good buyers who manage to put things on store shelves that no other stores seem to have (or at least at reasonble prices.)

I highly doubt that Target will be able to deliver US prices here, but if they can at least provide service and brighten up Zellers stores, I may shop there from time to time.

[Presto]

By the way, for people in the know, it's pronounced "Tar-jay" :)

[Liquid_o2]

How is Target any different compared to Walmart? I just don't see any other small retailers like Zellers, Shopper's Drugmart, London Drugs etc. able to compete with Walmart (except for location I guess).

A quick google of Target vs. Walmart: http://recomparison.com/comparisons/100217/wal-mart-vs-target/

Comes down to consumer choice.

I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart. Every time I step in there I feel miserable. Service is shit, products all over the place.

I would rather pay a few cents more and buy at London Drugs or Shoppers where I always get good service and the environment isn't as hectic.

[InvisibleSoul]

By the way, for people in the know, it's pronounced "Tar-jay" :)
I actually decided to look that up...

Some people jokingly give Target the pseudo-French pronunciation /tɑrˈʒeɪ/ tar-zhay, as though it were an upscale boutique. This trend is incorrectly believed to have been started by Oprah Winfrey, when she used the French pronunciation to refer to the store on her television show; it has actually been traced back to 1962, the year the first Target store opened; this was reinforced by a 1980s television advertisement starring Didi Conn. This pronunciation has also led some people to incorrectly believe that the company is French-owned.[8] In recognition of the nickname's popularity and cachet, Target Corporation licensed its name and logo to Brand Central LLC in 2006, complete with accent over the letter "E", for a new line of clothing intended for more up-scale fashion customers. The line, "Targét Couture" was originally sold at Los Angeles-based store Intuition, which deals with high-end brands.

From their Wikipedia page...

[Leopold Stotch]

I have to admit that Wal-Mart does have better prices from time to time on certain things, but Wal-Mart stores are generally pretty miserable places to shop in and you get next to no service. On the other hand, Shoppers Drug Mart stores are actually quite pleasant, they actually provide advice on pharmaceuticals, and they have a very good rewards program. London Drugs generally has staff who actually seem like they want to work there and they have very good buyers who manage to put things on store shelves that no other stores seem to have (or at least at reasonble prices.)

I highly doubt that Target will be able to deliver US prices here, but if they can at least provide service and brighten up Zellers stores, I may shop there from time to time.

i must say i've been shoppnig at superstore for as long as i remember,

Wal-Mart on grandview is much nicer than any superstore i've been to.

[FerrariEnzo]

zellers can never compete with walmart...

but its nice to see some more competition... i hope this means lower prices and not just for them to match the prices..

[TOS'd]

Yay, maybe now I don't have to drive to the states to pick up these

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31re6s3n3qL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

[Nicotine]

^ when a can just isnt enough.

[AzNightmare]

lol @ the service complaints.
Seriously... how much service do we need when shopping at one of these places?

The most service I ever needed was "Where's your _______ located"
In these stores like Walmart, Target, Superstore, Zellers, The Bay, etc., I'm not sure
what other service is expected.

Although sometimes, I find it tough to find staff around at Superstore during the odd
hours, luckily, every store looks exactly the same... so... know one, know them all.

The only thing I care about is which place has lower prices.

I'm personally okay with this, since I hardly go to Zellers anyway.
Walmart usually has a bigger selection of whatever randoms I need to buy,
and when I go down to the states, I sometimes drop by at Target on the way.

I was really happy when Walmart moved closer to the mainland.
I think I will be okay with this too.


I find this an odd move on HBC's part though, as Zellers appears to be doing better then the Bay and Home Sense.

I think it's Home Outfitters that belongs to HBC.

[Presto]

Comes down to consumer choice.

I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart. Every time I step in there I feel miserable. Service is shit, products all over the place.

I would rather pay a few cents more and buy at London Drugs or Shoppers where I always get good service and the environment isn't as hectic.

+1

There's like a big vortex at Walmart that sucks the joy out of anyone that enters. It's probably caused by the spirit-broken employees.

[drunkrussian]

there's no competing with walmart, yes. But in canada (or at least vancouver) because walmart locations are so limited and at random-ass places no one goes to, there's a real opportunity to steal their share, perhaps more so than in the U.S, where you have Walmart, K-mart, Target etc. everywhere.

So really, other than Walmart, who would Target be competing with? Bad move for HBC good move for target imo. For those who shopped at zellers, they'll probably be better off too, as canadians suck dick at running department stores. I expect better quality for cheaper prices.

[sonick]

HBC was sold to Americans years ago, who turned it into a very profitable company. Zellers was a weak link and they managed to sell it for more than they originally bought HBC for.

[Tapioca]

lol @ the service complaints.
Seriously... how much service do we need when shopping at one of these places?

At Shoppers, I'm able to ask a pharmacist questions about acne remedies. At Superstore, Wal-Mart, etc., I can't. Sure I could Google about them, but sometimes, it's nice having someone to ask. London Drugs has friendly cashiers. I don't necessarily need service, but it's nice to be able to have small chat with a stranger, especially if I'm having a crappy day myself.

I've spent many years in customer service, so I'm naturally personable. I understand the importance of customer service and I appreciate it when I'm given it in return. I'm sure anyone else who has worked in customer service understands where I'm coming from.

[AzNightmare]

At Shoppers, I'm able to ask a pharmacist questions about acne remedies. At Superstore, Wal-Mart, etc., I can't. Sure I could Google about them, but sometimes, it's nice having someone to ask. London Drugs has friendly cashiers. I don't necessarily need service, but it's nice to be able to have small chat with a stranger, especially if I'm having a crappy day myself.

I've spent many years in customer service, so I'm naturally personable. I understand the importance of customer service and I appreciate it when I'm given it in return. I'm sure anyone else who has worked in customer service understands where I'm coming from.

Well, I'll agree that you won't get better pharmacist help than a place like Shoppers since
they're supposed to be a pharmacy specialist store.

[RevRav]

As long as these Target locations in Canada have price matching to the US stores, by all means... I have nothing against the new change.

[Ch28]

Yay, maybe now I don't have to drive to the states to pick up these

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31re6s3n3qL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

:lol

that's the first thing I thought of when I heard about the news this morning

i have a jug in my office drawer right now :fullofwin:

[InvisibleSoul]

“When is Target going to buy Zellers and come to Canada?” has been the most-asked question posed to this reporter over the years at the office water cooler and at parties — it seems most consumers who have visited the cheap chic Wal-Mart rival as it successfully expanded across the U.S. prefer its cheap chic stylings to that of Zellers. (Close behind in popularity: “When is J Crew coming to Canada?” That is supposed to happen at a mystery location in Toronto later this year. Stay tuned!)

Five things you need to know about the Target/Zellers deal:

1. Target is not buying Zellers, per se. Target is shelling out $1.825-billion for up to 220 leasehold interests of Zellers locations that have yet to be decided. Zellers’ owner, U.S. real estate investor Richard Baker, took over the mostly-leased Zellers chain when he bought Hudson’s Bay Co. in 2008 for $1.1-billion. The worth of those long-term leases with large landlords such as RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust and and how much another business would pay for them were the largest barrier to a deal like Thursday’s under its prior two owners.
2. Zellers will still exist, albeit in a scaled-down version, for a while. There are currently 279 Zellers outlets across Canada and there is no guarantee at this point that Target will take over all but 60 of them — the Minneapolis-based corporation simply has bought the right to do so. The U.S. mass merchant wants to open 100 to 150 Target stores across Canada beginning in 2013, and Mr. Baker will keep operating many of the remaining locations as Zellers outlets until Target decides over the next few months which ones it wants to keep.
3. Zellers will likely disappear in the next five years. Industry experts predict Mr. Baker will negotiate the sale of the remaining leases to parties who want to cherry-pick locations that are compelling to them. Depending on the square footage and demographics, that could include established Canadian retailers such as Dollarama and Giant Tiger; parties that have been expanding and looking for big pieces of real estate, such as home improvement chain Lowe’s or Marshall’s, a corporate sibling to Winners and Home Sense; or retailers that have reportedly been eyeing the Canadian market, such as Kohl’s or J.C. Penney.
4. Canadians will finally be able to get their mitts on Target’s private brands, including its top-selling Target Home decor and furniture collection and limited-edition goods from partnerships with A-list designers such as William Rast or Stella McCartney. “We are very excited to bring our broad assortment of unique, high-quality merchandise at exceptional values and our convenient shopping environment to Canadian guests coast-to-coast,” said Gregg Steinhafel, Target’s CEO.
5. You can expect some attention-grabbing deals from Wal-Mart Canada as it prepares for Target’s entry. The world’s biggest retailer won’t take the arrival of its biggest U.S. rival into one of its top-performing markets in the world lightly.


Read more: http://business.financialpost.com/2011/01/13/fp-marketing-target-canada-finally/#ixzz1AwtBguQf

[Shun Izaki]

zellers fucking sucks.

such a crappy place to buy things, good riddance.

[b0unce. [?]]

whatever zellers and target have similar theme colors anyways, the transition will be quick :P

[jaebomb]

targets cinnamon pretzels!! omnomnomnom

[skholla]

I love Tarjay!
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[skholla]

zellers fucking sucks.

such a crappy place to buy things, good riddance.

Zellers rocked in the 80's, it was the place to buy toys. Now it's a dump and can't compete with the American wallymart, another Canadian business bites the dust... :(
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[TOS'd]

^ when a can just isnt enough.

Can is like 99cents
Glass bottle is like $2.50
Jug is like under $3

Always come back with 6-8 jugs.

[oldsnail]

zellers was good on monday..
my grandma loves shopping there coz monday is seniors day, extra 10% off

[busdriverman]

I don't know what to think about this either....

on one hand I hate zellers.

on the other hand, it is just another example of our eroding Canadian market brand.

same way i feel dude

apathetic towards zellers however this is another example of the american corporate giant taking another canadian company. american corporate hegemony in north america ftl

[kyoshiro]

same way i feel dude

apathetic towards zellers however this is another example of the american corporate giant taking another canadian company. american corporate hegemony in north america ftl

target has better prices than zellers anyways

and wry halo thar clinton, aldric here, i see you're a RSer LOL

[woob]

By the way, for people in the know, it's pronounced "Tar-jay" :)

TIL....


From now on, I will pronounce this brand in its proper French-esque syllabication.

[Xnova86]

aww i like zellers, i buy my clothings there

[Gh0stRider]

Didn't think Target was anything special. Been to the one in bellingham a few times
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[Matlock]

No one even mentions HBC's little division called "fields." Enjoy.
http://www.fields.ca/en/about.html

I actually just googled it and was surprised it even exists anymore.

[CorneringArtist]

My nearby Zellers is a shithole, I only shop there when the toilet paper is on sale. Other than that, everything that isn't food is really old (ie. electronics).

It sucks to see another Canadian store bite it, but I wonder what Tar-jay will do with their new acquisition.

[Gnomes]

I love the "Archer's Farm" brand food items offered by Target.

[shenmecar]

does that mean my HBC rewards card is useless now since i don't shop at the bay or home sense............

[JesseBlue]

bring fred meyer, as some of the prices are cheaper than walmart. i don't care any which way as long as the savings are in my pocket
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[q0192837465]

I don't understand the emphasis on services at all. It adds no value to the goods u r purchasing. If I want a box of cookies, I want to pay for a box of cookies, not a box of cookies plus 20 cents for service. The extra 20 cents doesn't make ur cookie taste better.
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[Guy_LikeWhoa]

:fuckyea:

target is the shit. no more driving to bellis fair.....unless the prices suck ass, in which case i will still be driving to bellis fair.

[smk]

hopefully they dont have long lineups at the cashier like zellers (not to mention rude cashiers most of the time)

[InvisibleSoul]

Yay, maybe now I don't have to drive to the states to pick up these

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31re6s3n3qL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
Unfortunately, highly unlikely to be the case... all the food and drinks are going to be from local distributors... just like how there aren't really any special items available at Wal-Mart.

[Makariri]

Yeah, I have no idea how Zellers has managed to stay afloat over the years - quite the dump of a chain, imo

[Gridlock]

Yeah, I have no idea how Zellers has managed to stay afloat over the years - quite the dump of a chain, imo

My uneducated guess...

As seen above, their one saving grace was the leases on the stores. I would imagine that concessions were made to make the stores more profitable. If Zellers died, you now have huge holes in malls all across Canada.

They closed the Zellers in New West, and dollarama took part, and some other store. It took years to get that. Not that Royal City Centre was anything exciting with Zellers, but it certainly isn't anything now that they aren't there. Thank god for old people that don't travel. Replicate that experience across Canada, and Rio-can would be hurting.

If I were an executive, I would probably put together a "shit or get off the pot" deal. You have 5 years to be able to pay an increased rental rate across the board, or sell out to someone who can.

Or I could completely be full of shit, as I know nothing of commercial real estate.

[Spectre_Cdn]

Yeah, I have no idea how Zellers has managed to stay afloat over the years - quite the dump of a chain, imo
The typical customer in Zellers is usually the 50-60+ crowd, or newer immigrant families. But with Walmart, Superstore and Costco, it's a difficult market for Zellers to compete in, imo. I think most of Zellers customers are just those who have become accustomed to shopping there; it's difficult for them to attract new customers with their aged image and average prices.
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[twitchyzero]

i'm surprised Zellers made it past the 2000's.

I still see them selling video games from few years ago at original MSRP haha

[Tapioca]

I don't understand the emphasis on services at all. It adds no value to the goods u r purchasing. If I want a box of cookies, I want to pay for a box of cookies, not a box of cookies plus 20 cents for service. The extra 20 cents doesn't make ur cookie taste better.
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If that were the case, then we'd all be buying goods from warehouses or eating at home. We're humans and it's in our nature to be social, in spite of the internet and new mediums of communication. At one particular store I worked at, we more than doubled our yearly sales despite charging 15-30% more than other stores because our manager emphasized customer service.

My uneducated guess...

As seen above, their one saving grace was the leases on the stores. I would imagine that concessions were made to make the stores more profitable. If Zellers died, you now have huge holes in malls all across Canada.

You're not far off. I read an article in the G&M today that stated that Zellers has very good long-term leases in many of its locations.

[Gumby]

I find the Zellers at Oakridge (a mall trying to become more "upscale") to be out of place...

[Minata]

I find this an odd move on HBC's part though, as Zellers appears to be doing better then the Bay and Home Sense.

Home Outfitters is part of HBC. HomeSense is part of Winners.

[JesseBlue]

so i was at zellers in metrotown...

the washroom are so old and unclean that its a wonder how it would sanitary...

oh well...:woot2:

[MWR34]

Good time to buy this PS3:

http://www.target.com/PlayStation-Computer-Entertainment-System-Drive/dp/B0009VXAM0/ref=huc_ic_1_pn

[willystyle]

^ Why is it so cheap?

[$_$]

^^ I just noticed in the description that its for a controller not the system ? I made an order, should i cancel it ?

[TOS'd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObPdxRmlCY

[$_$]

Cancelled my order from target, keeping the one from amazon though.

Some people have already called amazon, prob gonna get cancelled. Meh, what do i gotta lose =D

[dachinesedude]

http://money.ca.msn.com/investing/news/business-news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=27300751

By Mary Gazze, The Canadian Press, thecanadianpress.com, Updated: January 18, 2011 5:12 PM

Fairweather files $250M suit against Target

Customers enter a Target Apparel store, proprety of Fairweather Ltd., in Sudbury, Ont. on Friday January 14, 2011. Clothing chain Fairweather Ltd. has filed a lawsuit against American discount retailer Target, on the grounds that it owns the right to use the name in Canada — though the U.S company says it sees no obstacle to its planned expansion into this country. THE CANADIAN PRESS 2011/Gino Donato

TORONTO - Clothing chain Fairweather Ltd. has filed a lawsuit against American discount retailer Target, on the grounds that it owns the right to use the name in Canada — though the U.S. company says it sees no obstacle to expanding into this country.

In documents filed in Federal Court on Monday, Fairweather said it is seeking up to $250 million in damages for alleged trademark infringement, and wants an injunction to block the U.S. Target chain from using the name in Canada.

Toronto-based Fairweather has owned the Canadian rights to the name for 10 years, when it bought assets from Dylex Ltd.

Dylex, was a Canadian company that once owned Fairweather and numerous other retail chains, had registered the "Target Apparel" name in 1981. Dylex was eventually split up, although many of its chains still operate.

Fairweather has been operating a Toronto clothing store under the name "Target Apparel" since 2005.

The flashy American Target, which is known for designer fashion collaborations at discount chain prices, announced last week that it plans to open more than 200 stores in Canada in the next decade as it takes over the leases for the majority of Zellers stores from the Hudson's Bay Company.

The American chain announced Tuesday that Tony Fisher has been named as president of Target Canada. The veteran Target executive will be responsible for building a Canadian team, establishing a headquarters and leading day-to-day operations related to the expansion.

Meanwhile, Fairweather claims the American retailer's entry into Canada would lead to a loss of customers, the devaluation of the Target Apparel name, and loss of control over its trademark and reputation.

It wants the court to declare that it has the sole right to use the "Target Apparel" name in Canada, and to prevent the U.S. retailer from using the name on any clothing labels or retail stores north of the border.

Fairweather said it also wants American Target to transfer ownership of the website targetapparel.com, which currently redirects to the U.S. chain's website.

Fairweather declined to comment Tuesday because the matter is before the courts.

Jessica Carlson, a spokeswoman for Target, said she could not comment on the court proceedings, but said Minneapolis-based Target expects to use the same name, slogan, branding and signature bull's-eye logo that it uses in the U.S.

"There really is nothing that prevents Target from using the Target name and branding elements in Canada the same way we do in the United States," she said.

But University of Ottawa trademark law professor Teresa Scassa said if the American chain enters Canada before the dispute is resolved, it could risk legal troubles.

"They can start to use the trademark in Canada but there is a risk that they will be sued," she said, explaining that if the two retailers sold completely different merchandise, it would not be an issue, but there is an overlap as the two companies both sell clothing.

"Then the risk of confusion increases significantly. So if Target in the U.S. is known for their line of fashion wear and you've got Target Apparel that sells clothing in Canada, the risk that there'll be some confusion is much more significant," she said, adding that it is up to the court to decide whether allowing the two names to coexist would be confusing.

The American Target launched the legal proceedings in November by filing its own trademark infringement lawsuit against Fairweather.

Last year, the U.S. retailer filed a challenge with Canada's trademark office, claiming the Fairweather owner hasn't been using the Target name. The Canadian company has since opened "Target Apparel" stores in Sudbury, Ont., and Nanaimo, B.C.

Fairweather temporarily lost ownership of the Target trademark in 2005 after the U.S. retailer moved to have it cancelled. Industry Canada said the trade mark was expunged, but the Federal Court of Appeal later ruled Fairweather's ownership should be reactivated.

Under U.S. Target's most recent challenge, Fairweather now has until the end of February to prove to the trademark office that it has used the name in the last three years, or had plans to use it, in order to keep its ownership rights.

Depending on the outcome, the American chain may have to choose between using a different Canadian name, or buying the Canadian rights.

Fairweather also owns discount menswear chain International Clothiers and department stores Les Ailes De La Mode in Quebec. It is not clear whether the company has plans to open more locations or convert its current stores to the Target Apparel name.

[jaebomb]

i rmb i ate once at the zellers restaurant and its not as bad as i thought it would be..

[Blinky]

i rmb i ate once at the zellers restaurant and its not as bad as i thought it would be..

That's because it should be fucking impossible to screw up a burger and fries. :)

The restaurants are actually quite important for Zellers - they really serve a lot of food to the golden-agers, giving them reason to come to a store, stay in a store, and of course spend a bit of money in store.

[Okami]

http://www.jadeesantiquebearshoppe.com/catalog/!BlF9,QBmk~$(KGrHqF,!jkEzKJ)vvZzBN!EHNIt1w~~0_1_30 139_1_thumb.JPG

zellers is like the only big retailer that had a mascot.. i think XD

i still have one of these guys in my basement storage (with a shirt) from when i was a kid.

and i remember zellers used to be awesome with the 99 cent breakfast that owned the ikea ones

[InvisibleSoul]

A list of 105 Zellers locations picked by Target for takeover

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/breakingnews/122672933.html

British Columbia

Abbotsford Power Centre, Abbotsford;
Metropolis at Metrotown, Burnaby;
Discovery Harbour Shopping Centre, Campbell River;
Cottonwood Mall, Chilliwack;
Coquitlam Centre, Coquitlam;
Driftwood Mall, Courtenay;
Tamarack Mall, Cranbrook;
Scottsdale Mall, Delta;
Willowbrook Shopping Centre, Langley;
Haney Place Mall, Maple Ridge.
Nanaimo North Town Centre, Nanaimo;
Pine Centre, Prince George;
Oakridge Shopping Centre, Vancouver;
Village Green Mall, Vernon;
Tillicum Mall, Victoria.

[Spectre_Cdn]

no more lansdowne :cry:

oh well... Richmond Centre was the OG Zellers of Richmond

[AzNightmare]

Cancelled my order from target, keeping the one from amazon though.

Some people have already called amazon, prob gonna get cancelled. Meh, what do i gotta lose =D

So did you get your PS3? or refund?? :fullofwin:

[TheNewGirl]

Between Target and the Megawalmart coming into Poco/Coquitlam, and with Costco and Superstore already here, I shutter to think what this is going to do to local business.

But... good deals will be a plenty.

[twitchyzero]

apparently it's happening early 2013. I can't wait to see their pricing go head to head with walmart

[quasi]

A list of 105 Zellers locations picked by Target for takeover

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/breakingnews/122672933.html

My wife will be happy, the Langley one is so close to us and she's all about the Target.

[Gumby]

no more lansdowne :cry:

oh well... Richmond Centre was the OG Zellers of Richmond
I don't see Lansdowne in the list posted by InvisibleSoul...

[melloman]

HBC was sold to Americans years ago, who turned it into a very profitable company. Zellers was a weak link and they managed to sell it for more than they originally bought HBC for.

^^ This. Lord & Tailor bought them out afew years ago. They kept the symbolic name "The Bay" for just that reason; tradition and symbolism. There have been talks in the last few months about this buy out by Target so it shouldn't be that big of a surprise.

IMO Target>Zellers, hopefully they will bring the food that they only sell in the US over to Canada:)

[TheNewGirl]

They are supposed to be bringing their food lines up here (as are the mega Walmarts).

While generally I'm very anti big box, as someone with food allergies, this is AWESOME as the US has a lot more allergy friendly brands then we do.

[fliptuner]

Between Target and the Megawalmart coming into Poco/Coquitlam, ........

Holy crap, I never even noticed the WalMart and I'm at that Costco almost every weekend. Actually, leaving to go to Costco and HD right now.

The Coast Meridian Bridge sure opened up that area for me since I live at the South foot of it.

http://buyric.com/projects/wp-content/files/2011/01/port-coquitlam-fremont-village-dominion-triangle-map-large.jpg

[phunky.FOB]

yay target ! <3

[Spectre_Cdn]

I don't see Lansdowne in the list posted by InvisibleSoul...

Yeah.. so that means the Lansdowne Zellers will probably close up shop? They're not keeping both Zellers and Targets around right?

[Gumby]

Yeah.. so that means the Lansdowne Zellers will probably close up shop? They're not keeping both Zellers and Targets around right?
Ahh ok now I get it...

[StylinRed]

Between Target and the Megawalmart coming into Poco/Coquitlam, and with Costco and Superstore already here, I shutter to think what this is going to do to local business.

But... good deals will be a plenty.

they're putting a walmart in coquitlam????? oO wtf is wrong with coquitlam

[dignatas]

wow no target in landsdown??? That place is like a ghost town anyways compared to richmond centre. :speechless:

What are the big changes about zellers switching to target?? I have never been to target before.

[twitchyzero]

it won't be as archaic

[Alatar]

Between Target and the Megawalmart coming into Poco/Coquitlam, and with Costco and Superstore already here, I shutter to think what this is going to do to local business.

But... good deals will be a plenty.

I shutter a lot too, with my DSLR. But I shudder at improper use of language more than anything.

The thing about big box stores compared to the small, local businesses. Small business usually occupies a niche market that will still receive business, as seen with Port Moody and the Ioco area.

Malls and stores such as Walmart, Superstore and Costco don't necessarily kill the small guys, but it does take some traffic away. I still shop at smaller stores, and actually go on walks where I'll wander around and see what there is to see in Vancouver, but I also do once monthly/bi-weekly trips to Costco or Walmart, just for shits and giggles.

My only hope, with regards to the Target takeovers of those locations, is that they clean up how disgusting some of those large stores have become. Some of them are complete and utter messes. I know. I used to work at the Oakridge one.

[Alatar]

wow no target in landsdown??? That place is like a ghost town anyways compared to richmond centre. :speechless:

What are the big changes about zellers switching to target?? I have never been to target before.

Hopefully less mess, not quite as hopeless product (bye bye Truly?) and staff that actually care a bit more. The latter... I'm not keeping my hopes up.

[StylinRed]

^^ i dunno the zellers in coquitlam / haney seem to be handled pretty well

the targets ive been into are total crap (boston)

[Culverin]

At least Target has a better lineup system where they feed you 1-by-1 into open tellers. Target is also a heck of a lot more organized than zellers.

[Alatar]

I've been to Target in Bellingham, Mt. Vernon, Seattle, Marysville, Denver (several in the Denver area), Morgan Hill CA, San Jose CA. I haven't seen one yet that was as bad or even CLOSE to as bad as the best Zellers up here.

[flagella]

Please carry that Arizona green tea.

[TOS'd]

Please carry that Arizona green tea.

+1. Also at the same price as it is down in the states.

[Harryt]

I guess this means I should use all my zellers points while I can? Got a few million too over I don't know.. 25 yrs LOL

[InvisibleSoul]

Please carry that Arizona green tea.

Very unlikely to happen... just like when WalMart came up here to Canada.

I remember saying the same thing in a thread then. Pretty much all the food and beverage items will be sourced from local distributors... so we still won't see all the different varieties of drinks and stuff that is available down south.

We won't see the half gallon jugs of AriZona iced tea.

We won't get the gallon jugs of Gatorade.

We won't have Cherry Coke as a regular flavour of pop.

Too bad though...

[Jsunu]

Very unlikely to happen... just like when WalMart came up here to Canada.

I remember saying the same thing in a thread then. Pretty much all the food and beverage items will be sourced from local distributors... so we still won't see all the different varieties of drinks and stuff that is available down south.

We won't see the half gallon jugs of AriZona iced tea.

We won't get the gallon jugs of Gatorade.

We won't have Cherry Coke as a regular flavour of pop.

Too bad though...

Also factor in the fact that we have different food/drink/dairy regulations here in Canada vs. states (high fructose corn syrup regulations etc.)

[Gh0stRider]

Target lists locations for first 105 stores in Canada

Target has announced the first 105 Zellers stores it plans to convert as the U.S. retailer expands its reach into Canada.

The company said a majority of Zellers locations across all 10 provinces will become Target stores beginning in 2013 after undergoing "extensive renovation."

The stores sit on land controlled by 22 property owners and landlords. Target will give the Hudson's Bay Co. the first half of $1.825 billion it agreed to pay once it finalizes the acquisition of the sites in the coming days.

Target also said it will open its Canadian headquarters in Mississauga, Ont.

Canada's first Target stores, by province:

Alberta

Chinook Centre, Calgary
Forest Lawn Shopping Centre, Calgary
Market Mall, Calgary
Shoppes at Shawnessy, Calgary
Signal Hill Centre, Calgary
Sunridge Mall, Calgary
Bonnie Doon, Edmonton
Kingsway Garden Mall, Edmonton
Mill Woods Town Centre, Edmonton
Prairie Mall, Grande Prairie
Bower Place, Red Deer
St. Albert Centre, St. Albert
Sherwood Park Mall, Sherwood Park

British Columbia

Abbotsford Power Centre, Abbotsford
Metropolis at Metrotown, Burnaby
Discovery Harbour Shopping Centre, Campbell River
Cottonwood Mall, Chilliwack
Coquitlam Centre, Coquitlam
Driftwood Mall, Courtenay
Tamarack Mall, Cranbrook
Scottsdale Mall, Delta
Willowbrook Shopping Centre, Langley
Haney Place Mall, Maple Ridge
Nanaimo North Town Centre, Nanaimo
Pine Centre, Prince George
Oakridge Shopping Centre, Vancouver
Village Green Mall, Vernon
Tillicum Mall, Victoria

Manitoba

Shoppers Mall, Brandon
Grant Park, Winnipeg
Kildonan Place Shopping Centre, Winnipeg
Polo Park Shopping Centre, Winnipeg
Southdale Centre, Winnipeg

New Brunswick

McAllister Place, Saint John

Newfoundland and Labrador

Corner Brook, Corner Brook
Cabot Square, St. John's

Nova Scotia

Bedford Place, Bedford
Mic Mac Mall, Dartmouth

Ontario

Durham Centre, Ajax
Aurora Shopping Centre, Aurora
Bramalea City Centre, Brampton
Shoppers World Brampton, Brampton
Trinity Common, Brampton
Burlington Mall, Burlington
Millcroft Centre, Burlington
Cambridge Centre, Cambridge
Woodbine Centre, Etobicoke
Gates of Fergus, Fergus
175 Stone Road W., Guelph
Centre Mall, Hamilton
South Hamilton Square, Hamilton
Hazeldean Mall, Kanata
Cataraqui Town Centre, Kingston
Lindsay Square Mall, Lindsay
Masonville Place, London
Westmount Shopping Centre, London
Milton Mall Shopping Centre, Milton
Erin Mills Town Centre, Mississauga
Square One, Mississauga
Meadowlands Shopping Centre, Nepean
Upper Canada Mall, Newmarket
1899 Algonquin Ave., North Bay
Centerpoint Mall, North York
Orillia Square Mall, Orillia
Place D'Orleans, Orleans
Five Points Mall, Oshawa
Bayshore Shopping Centre, Ottawa
Billings Bridge Plaza, Ottawa
RioCan St. Laurent, Ottawa
Hillcrest Mall, Richmond Hill
Bridlewood Mall, Scarborough
County Fair Mall, Smiths Falls
Niagara Pen Centre, St. Catharines
Stratford Mall, Stratford
Sudbury Supermall, Sudbury
Intercity Shopping Centre, Thunder Bay
Cloverdale Mall, Toronto
Shoppers World Danforth, Toronto
East York Town Centre, Toronto
Flamborough Power Centre, Waterdown
Conestoga Mall, Waterloo
Taunton Gardens Power Centre, Whitby
Devonshire Mall, Windsor

Prince Edward Island

Charlottetown Mall, Charlottetown

Quebec

Galeries d'Anjou, Anjou
Faubourg Boisbriand, Boisbriand
Carrefour Angrignon, Lasalle
Mega Centre Notre-Dame, Laval
Galeries Chagnon , Levis
Place Longueuil, Longueuil
Place Alexis Nihon, Montreal
Place Vertu, Montreal
Terrarium Shopping Centre, Pointe Claire
Les Galeries De La Capitale, Quebec City
Place Fleur De Lys, Quebec City
Place Laurier, Quebec
Le Carrefour Rimouski, Rimouski
Promenades Saint-Bruno, Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville
Carrefour Saint-Georges, Saint-Georges
Carrefour Richelieu, Saint- Jean sur-Richelieu
Carrefour du Nord, Saint Jerome
Carrefour de L'Estrie, Sherbrooke
Les Rivieres Shopping Centre, Trois Rivieres

Saskatchewan

Northgate Mall, Regina
The Centre, Saskatoon


Read more: Target lists locations for first 105 stores in Canada | CTV News (http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110526/target-conversion-zellers-canada-110526/#ixzz1vph9qoIM)

[Liquid_o2]

I'm surprised Scottsdale Mall was chosen over Central City.

[murd0c]

I'm surprised Scottsdale Mall was chosen over Central City.

To many crackers at Surrey Place...

[jackmeister]

don't worry guys, its just the "first 105".. im sure there are more coming!

even RICHMOND isn't included. wtf?

[Alatar]

Slightly Ironic... Zellers Lansdowne was store #105 in the Zellers system.

[Verdasco]

is it a target location on sweden and bridgeport where the old ikea use to be???

[tiger_handheld]

As great as it is that Target is coming, I feel for the employees of Zellers. I'm not sure if any media outlet reported it, but all current Zellers employees are being laid-off. Target is hiring new employees at min. wage/just over min wage. Employees at Zellers with 18 years of seniority are being reduced to nothing. Apparently HBC was to receive a lower price if Target had absorbed the current employees.

[rice cooker]

im pretty sure they just gonna replace the giant zellers sign with a giant target sign lol

[PiuYi]

read half way through first page before i realized its a 2011 thread bump :fuuuuu:


and i'm glad target isn't coming to richmond... seeing their logo makes me think i'm in the states

[StylinRed]

As great as it is that Target is coming, I feel for the employees of Zellers. I'm not sure if any media outlet reported it, but all current Zellers employees are being laid-off. Target is hiring new employees at min. wage/just over min wage. Employees at Zellers with 18 years of seniority are being reduced to nothing. Apparently HBC was to receive a lower price if Target had absorbed the current employees.

oh wow I didn't know that, that really sucks actually :/

[jackmeister]

there's also going to be a walmart at the NE corner of Garden City and Alderbridge.

[Hurricane]

As great as it is that Target is coming, I feel for the employees of Zellers. I'm not sure if any media outlet reported it, but all current Zellers employees are being laid-off. Target is hiring new employees at min. wage/just over min wage. Employees at Zellers with 18 years of seniority are being reduced to nothing. Apparently HBC was to receive a lower price if Target had absorbed the current employees.

All the recent news coverage has (misleadingly) described a situation where Zellers is basically becoming Target, and Target is laying off all the employees. That is not true at all. This is purely a real estate deal, and I hope people aren't trying to pass the buck to Target. The jobless employees are 100% a results of Zellers' actions.

If I were to lease a little spot in a strip-mall, to open a new coffee shop, and it used to be a shitty Indian restaurant, would you expect me to keep the (overpaid) cook/cashier as my staff? I doubt it.

Just because it's on a larger scale, doesn't make it any more/less relevant.

Zellers has been a sinking ship for decades. They are virtually identical to what they were in the 80's. Fuck, it's literally like walking into a museum of my childhood. I don't even think the toy section has been updated.

I welcome a faster, younger, more agile and vibrant business to shine some light in those dirty aisles, and bring us interesting new products.

Lots of new jobs for young people. Some self entitled old-timers get swept aside (or step it up a notch and carry-on).

[i-VTEC]

I heard from Zellers' employee that they have to reapply the position for Target.

[Gridlock]

Keep in mind, its all HBC's fault. They could have closed under performing stores, cleaned and renovated higher performing stores, re-did some branding to make zellers cool-hey! we're still a Canadian icon but they didn't.

The staff to the day they announced the sale would glare at you for being there and ask you if this is on your HBC credit card when you are waving cash under their nose.

They'll put the money into the Bay and a few years from now, they'll realize that this isn't working either and it will go the way of Eaton's.

[InvisibleSoul]

I heard from Zellers' employee that they have to reapply the position for Target.
Why wouldn't they?

[i-VTEC]

there's also going to be a walmart at the NE corner of Garden City and Alderbridge.

Not sure if it has been finalized.

According to
Richmond Review - Walmart store inching closer (http://www.richmondreview.com/news/118678409.html)
City of Richmond received a rezoning application

[c3m]

there's also going to be a walmart at the NE corner of Garden City and Alderbridge.

I thought that corner was bought by Walmart for the longest time

[ws6ta]

my first job was at zellers in scottsdale mall. that zellers was renovated in 02 while the surrey place one isn't. probably why they chose it over surrey place.

[Sunfighter]

It is completely and totally absurd to believe for even a second that Target should have any obligation to retain or give preference to ANY employee of Zellers...

If I am a gigantic mult-billion dollar, super efficient US retailer entering a new country and acquiring the leaseholds of a failing, archaic, disaster of a discount retailer, the last thing I would EVER want to do is assume/absorb their employees..... might as well keep the branding, inventory and logistics and distribution too.. but oh wait, then It'd still be Zellers... and I'd end up with a failing, archaic disaster of a discount retailer...

I would want my own recruiters and HR hiring people that are compatible with our own culture and corporate vision...

Understand as well that the leaseholds are basically just a reference to the plot on which the new structures will be built... I greatly expect that Target's plan is to effectively raze most units and build from the ground up or use little more than the shell... this isn't just a rebranding job.

Wal-Mart's approach was a lot different in the 1990s... they effectively just rebranded/remodelled the existing Woolco stores into something that resembled US-based Wal-Marts... the Canadian locations were unique in that they went against their corporate philosophy of predominantly single-floor, free standing structures... many of the assumed properties in Canada were mall locations and over the following 15 years Wal-Mart slowly relocated them into more conventional free standing locations....

[FOB Mainlander]

I would rather have one at Lansdowne than Oakridge...

[Verdasco]

I would rather have one at Lansdowne than Oakridge...

it is like asking mcdonalds to open at a ghost town rather than downtown where everyone is...

[Gridlock]

It is completely and totally absurd to believe for even a second that Target should have any obligation to retain or give preference to ANY employee of Zellers...

If I am a gigantic mult-billion dollar, super efficient US retailer entering a new country and acquiring the leaseholds of a failing, archaic, disaster of a discount retailer, the last thing I would EVER want to do is assume/absorb their employees..... might as well keep the branding, inventory and logistics and distribution too.. but oh wait, then It'd still be Zellers... and I'd end up with a failing, archaic disaster of a discount retailer...

I would want my own recruiters and HR hiring people that are compatible with our own culture and corporate vision...

Understand as well that the leaseholds are basically just a reference to the plot on which the new structures will be built... I greatly expect that Target's plan is to effectively raze most units and build from the ground up or use little more than the shell... this isn't just a rebranding job.

Wal-Mart's approach was a lot different in the 1990s... they effectively just rebranded/remodelled the existing Woolco stores into something that resembled US-based Wal-Marts... the Canadian locations were unique in that they went against their corporate philosophy of predominantly single-floor, free standing structures... many of the assumed properties in Canada were mall locations and over the following 15 years Wal-Mart slowly relocated them into more conventional free standing locations....

Huge investment, but smart.

Overnight, you get to introduce your business to the entire country(I know, they won't all open at once but y'kno what I mean) and there are some 30 convenient locations to serve you.

Compare to the introduction of Lowe's into Canada and no one is really discussing it the way Target is getting the press, and outside of Ontario they have big, but one off stores.

[FOB Mainlander]

Lansdowne is a ghost town but look at Best Buy and Future Shop. People will just go there and don't care about the rest of the mall. Same thing if Target opens at Lansdowne. Don't forget there are lots of cheap people living in Richmond. Oakridge suppose to be a upscale mall and Target or Zellers just don't quite fit into the image.
it is like asking mcdonalds to open at a ghost town rather than downtown where everyone is...

[E.D.C.5]

^ +1

[Acura604]

update to this thread.. our first batch of BC-based Target stores are opening tomorrow!




NEWS1130-
It’s good news for all of you who tend to go south of the line to do a little shopping. Some of the local target locations are opening tomorrow.

Nine stores in BC will open their doors on Tuesday morning. The Lower Mainland locations are in Coquitlam, Delta and Langley.

Stores will be open from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. Monday to Saturday and 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. on Sunday. Many locations will also feature a licensed Starbucks, as well as a pharmacy.

The retailer is opening two dozen stores in Western Canada this week as it rolls toward its goal of 124 in Canada before the end of the year. It has already said it’s not going to match the US pricing up here in Canada.

Target launched its first stores in Canada in Ontario earlier this year. The company operates almost 1,800 stores in the United States in addition to its new Canadian locations.

BC locations

Campbell River – Discovery Harbour Shopping Centre
Coquitlam – Coquitlam Centre
Cranbrook – Tamarack Mall
Delta – Scottsdale Mall
Kamloops- Sahali Centre Mall
Langley – Willowbrook Shopping Centre
Nanaimo – Nanaimo North Town Centre
Vernon – Village Green Mall
Victoria – Tillicum Centre

[BurnoutBinLaden]

How much more expensive are the prices at Canadian Target compared to US Target?

[Lomac]

Typical Canadian retail pricing?

No care.

[BurnoutBinLaden]

Typical Canadian retail pricing?

No care.

Yeah I don't buy the tarriff argument, the higher minimum wage argument, or anything. I just think they jack up prices because they can.

Even so, American retail workers have it really rough.

[HonestTea]

Any incentives to be the first ones? $500 GC? :lol:

[Mr.HappySilp]

Keep in mind, its all HBC's fault. They could have closed under performing stores, cleaned and renovated higher performing stores, re-did some branding to make zellers cool-hey! we're still a Canadian icon but they didn't.

The staff to the day they announced the sale would glare at you for being there and ask you if this is on your HBC credit card when you are waving cash under their nose.

They'll put the money into the Bay and a few years from now, they'll realize that this isn't working either and it will go the way of Eaton's.

The bay seems to be doing better these days. I like the idea that they actually have better brands and attractive sales now. Actually I like shopping at the bay when they have sales which is really good IMO. Pick up a few Levis jean for $39.95 when they have sales plus other stuff.

What I think The bay needs to do is to only sell clothing, jeserly and comestic. Move the funtruine (beddings, towels, bed sheets, pots, pans....) into Home outfitters. You save rent of space also you created 2 very specific store one for clothing and one for housing ware. Also they don't need so much stock of the same item. Only showcase the popular styles.

[dinosaur]

no man....The Bay is known for their bedding and housewares. Why do you think so many people register for weddings.

Get rid of the electronics and furniture.

[Yodamaster]

Typical Canadian retail pricing?

No care.

Same, I hadn't been keeping up with the story, so I didn't hear that they weren't keeping US (or close to US) pricing. Just another store.

[StylinRed]

the Bays already been getting rid of their electronics and appliances over the years especially their electronics

I think some stores have cleared out all their electronics already



I miss EATONS :okay: but the Bay seems to be more like Eatons so I guess that's ok

[jack3d]

gonna be weird seeing target in canada

[FerrariEnzo]

LMAO.. wow.. target wants to open 124 stores nation-wide before the end of 2013... THATS a huge ambition...

No wonder walmart is pushing for that spot in Richmond so hard..

[Gridlock]

I just can't believe that this many people care about Target. Another big box store in another strip mall selling the same old shit.

And its claim to fame? King of being "not wal-mart".

[Tapioca]

I just can't believe that this many people care about Target. Another big box store in another strip mall selling the same old shit.

And its claim to fame? King of being "not wal-mart".

Have you been to Target in the States? It's somewhat pleasant to walk around in, unlike Walmart. If anything, it will be head and shoulders above what Zellers was in the last 10 years. Target also does carry a few exclusive lines of clothing (kinda like Joe Fresh and Superstore).

Of course, we Canadians are generally cheap and don't care about the in-store experience. Witness the gong show that is Superstore on the weekends.

In retail, you either go high-end, like Holt Renfrew and Nordstrom, or you go low, like Walmart, Army and Navy, and Giant Tiger. I'm not sure how Target will do in the long run, especially if they don't have aggressive sales like say Canadian Tire.
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[sonick]

Ya Target's house brand of clothes are half decent actually.

[GLOW]

Have you been to Target in the States? It's somewhat pleasant to walk around in, unlike Walmart. If anything, it will be head and shoulders above what Zellers was in the last 10 years.

i agree, i enjoy walking through the target in bellingham...but i'm not sure if it's b/c it's not as busy as the costco or walmart there :P

[RS_Pat]

Zellers was downright depressing. It must be the lighting or something but once you walk in one you feel like in a dump. I don't know if it's bad design or on purpose. Target on the other hand, is nice and bright and colourful. It definitely affects the mood.

[Acura604]

Zellers was downright depressing. It must be the lighting or something but once you walk in one you feel like in a dump. I don't know if it's bad design or on purpose. Target on the other hand, is nice and bright and colourful. It definitely affects the mood.

dont forget the absolute TERRIBLE service. Mind u, during the decline..i'm thinking the employees there just didnt give a crap anymore.

but they were old , grumpy, unfriendly.

walmart on the other hand? clueless.

[Tapioca]

dont forget the absolute TERRIBLE service. Mind u, during the decline..i'm thinking the employees there just didnt give a crap anymore.

but they were old , grumpy, unfriendly.

walmart on the other hand? clueless.

You always get what you pay for. You may pay a bit more at Target for the same products, but you get a better experience (more pleasant store to be in, better trained staff, etc.). For example, I shop at Save-on-Foods rather than Walmart or Superstore because the stores are generally better organized and the lighting is better. I pay a bit more, but I'm willing to pay for a saner shopping experience. On the other hand, I think I'm in the minority.
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[dachinesedude]

You always get what you pay for. You may pay a bit more at Target for the same products, but you get a better experience (more pleasant store to be in, better trained staff, etc.). For example, I shop at Save-on-Foods rather than Walmart or Superstore because the stores are generally better organized and the lighting is better. I pay a bit more, but I'm willing to pay for a saner shopping experience. On the other hand, I think I'm in the minority.
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you pay more for groceries cuz you like their better "lighting"??? :awwyeah::rukidding:

[sonick]

Though I don't go to IGA or Safeway when they don't have a sale, I myself MUCH rather prefer the experience of going to those places over Superstore and Pricesmart.

[Mr.HappySilp]

You always get what you pay for. You may pay a bit more at Target for the same products, but you get a better experience (more pleasant store to be in, better trained staff, etc.). For example, I shop at Save-on-Foods rather than Walmart or Superstore because the stores are generally better organized and the lighting is better. I pay a bit more, but I'm willing to pay for a saner shopping experience. On the other hand, I think I'm in the minority.
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Wal-Mart at surrey seems pretty decent/ Been shopping there with Gf for the last few weeks. Doesn't matter how the lighting or service is. We are usually done in 30mins anyways.

[Tapioca]

you pay more for groceries cuz you like their better "lighting"??? :awwyeah::rukidding:

Like I said, I'm in the minority.

But on the other hand, I don't have to fight all of the crowds at Superstore or T&T on the weekends to save 10 cents a pound on Gala apples. Nor do I have to fight with people who can't park their cars properly.
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[winson604]

Like I said, I'm in the minority.

But on the other hand, I don't have to fight all of the crowds at Superstore or T&T on the weekends to save 10 cents a pound on Gala apples. Nor do I have to fight with people who can't park their cars properly.
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Depending on what you're shopping for it's way more than 10 cents or even $10 as a matter of fact.

I agree, Superstore and the Walmarts of this world have such a hurting vibe. Place often looks like a mess in some areas, lighting sucks, busier, no customer service etc etc.

At the end of the day though I'm not always willing to pay an extra $5, $10, $20, $30 + just for that reason. Luckily, Superstore, Price Smart, and Walmart are all within a few blocks of each other so I usually grocery store hop.

Walmart - I basically don't even go period

Superstore - I'll buy everything here other than raw foods, veggies, meats etc because the quality of their food is just not on par.

Also things like soap, tooth paste and all those "other" things cost way less at Superstore. Even when Price Smart, Safeway and these places are on sale, the price is still more expensive than Superstores regular price for the same item.

Price Smart - I'll often buy raw food here because the quality is better than Superstore hands down

Other misc places I would go to buy food is those little independent Chinese ones like Super Market 2000. T & T is kind of like Superstore for me, raw food is shit quality but dry stuff is the same wherever you get it. Of course there's Whole Foods and Donalds for example.

Like I said, once you factor all the crap at the end of the day you buy from food, to some house hold items etc the difference is huge.

[Tapioca]

If I need toilet paper and certain non-perishable goods, I will go to Superstore and get in/out as fast as I can. I try to go just before closing just to avoid the crowds. However, it's definitely not a habit.

When Target comes to my neighbourhood (Brentwood), I imagine I'll go there quite often if they can come to within 5-8% of what Superstore charges.
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[Mr.HappySilp]

Like I said, I'm in the minority.

But on the other hand, I don't have to fight all of the crowds at Superstore or T&T on the weekends to save 10 cents a pound on Gala apples. Nor do I have to fight with people who can't park their cars properly.
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Is more than 10cents ually ranges form a few dollars to $10. It adds up quickly if you have to go shop every week. Also to avoid line up and bad drivers I usually go to Wal-Wart around 10:30am on Sat is pretty much empty and I will be out around 11am. No line up and is super quiet.

[winson604]

If I need toilet paper and certain non-perishable goods, I will go to Superstore and get in/out as fast as I can. I try to go just before closing just to avoid the crowds. However, it's definitely not a habit.

When Target comes to my neighbourhood (Brentwood), I imagine I'll go there quite often if they can come to within 5-8% of what Superstore charges.
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I actually do the complete opposite. I'm always like to go as early as possibly and get in and out.

The overall number of people in the store pending the time you go may be more but checking out is less of a gong show because there's a ton of cash registers.

Every time I go late, sure way less people in the store but every damn cash register is closed and it just slows things up.

[moody]

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[StylinRed]

new fav place for groceries is thrifty's, better vibe, better selection, better steaks (dont even go to a butcher that much anymore) and its open 24hrs

it's like a Nesters market just bigger and open longer

and of course i still go to t&t/costco

[sonick]

So Richmond Lansdowne location opened today...

[4444]

new fav place for groceries is thrifty's, better vibe, better selection, better steaks (dont even go to a butcher that much anymore) and its open 24hrs

it's like a Nesters market just bigger and open longer

and of course i still go to t&t/costco

i shop at thirfty for my day to day groceries - but if you're talking good meat, you're getting at the wrong place, yes thrifty is good (ok for steak), but costco - that's hte place to get your meat!

[Great68]

Thriftys used to be great when it was locally owned. It had a much bigger focus on local/specialty/higher end stuff. It's been downhill ever since Sobeys bought them out, definately a lot more generic house brand crap (Ie: Compliments brand)

[4444]

Thriftys used to be great when it was locally owned. It had a much bigger focus on local/specialty/higher end stuff. It's been downhill ever since Sobeys bought them out, definately a lot more generic house brand crap (Ie: Compliments brand)

isn't compliments their 'house brand'? i swear they used to have that before the sobeys acquisition

[Great68]

Nope, Sobeys started Compliments in 2005. They took over Thrifty's in 2007.

[MG1]

winson604.......... you and I could be brothers. We think alike.

Early bird gets the worm.


I go to Fujiya right when they open. Sushi and bento is fresh and nobody in the lineup. Only bad thing is, all the eye candy go there between 11:00 am and 2:00 pm and the curry is never ready at opening.


Back on topic. Target is overrated. No savings to be had. Walmart is also overrated. I only go there when they have a loss leader in their weekly flyer. Better lighting, LOL. To save money, I will bring wind up flashlight with me.

[4444]

Nope, Sobeys started Compliments in 2005. They took over Thrifty's in 2007.

either way, i enjoy thrifty way more than safeway, i find save-on to be a tad pricey, the rest seem a tad too low brow for my taste - i will admit that I am willing to pay a bit more for my food to know i get best quality, no quabbles returns (thrifty's customer service is great), etc.

[Simplex123]

winson604.......... you and I could be brothers. We think alike.

or maybe he's one of your.... illegitimate sons........ :troll:

[josayeee]

Target always appealed to me because of the american selection of groceries and as a kid they had one of the better toy selections. I don't expect much from the Canadian version.

[StylinRed]

i shop at thirfty for my day to day groceries - but if you're talking good meat, you're getting at the wrong place, yes thrifty is good (ok for steak), but costco - that's hte place to get your meat!

i liked costco when they offered prime cuts but i havent seen that available in over a year

[keifun]

First time yesterday, walked in to Target in Canada at Metrotown. Looked around and compared prices to items that I already bought earlier at Superstore.

Of all the items I compared.none of them could beat the price I paid at Superstore.

I still think shopping at US Target is much better.

[v_tec]

I still think shopping at US Target is much better.

A comparison like that...you have to 'think'? :ahwow:

[fliptuner]

Target at Coq Ctr is pretty much the same shit, just a prettier store. Actually, it's worse cause the 2/3 times I've been there, they were out of stock on sale items, on the first day. Zellers had better sales too, so far - we'll see how it goes.

[Purely]

I went to Target in Surrey today, nothing special imo. US Target is still a lot better in terms of variety and pricing.

[krazynuck]

milk in the 1 litre size is cheaper at target... In comparison :
$1.92 Target
$2.08 Superstore
$2.29 Save on foods
$2.38 at shoppers
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[Lomac]

I've given Target a chance over the past few months, but it's nowhere near what I grew used to in the States. The Canadian version is just a slightly nicer looking Walmart. No good deals and none of the house brands and specialty items I love to get down south.

I still prefer Zellers over Canadian Target. :lol

Someone needs to bring back K-Mart and their Blue Light specials :fullofwin:

[saucywoman]

I've given Target a chance over the past few months, but it's nowhere near what I grew used to in the States. The Canadian version is just a slightly nicer looking Walmart. No good deals and none of the house brands and specialty items I love to get down south.

I still prefer Zellers over Canadian Target. :lol

Someone needs to bring back K-Mart and their Blue Light specials :fullofwin:

That Kamloops target just isn't doing it for you :troll: :p
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[winson604]

winson604.......... you and I could be brothers. We think alike.

Early bird gets the worm.


I go to Fujiya right when they open. Sushi and bento is fresh and nobody in the lineup. Only bad thing is, all the eye candy go there between 11:00 am and 2:00 pm and the curry is never ready at opening.


Back on topic. Target is overrated. No savings to be had. Walmart is also overrated. I only go there when they have a loss leader in their weekly flyer. Better lighting, LOL. To save money, I will bring wind up flashlight with me.

Haha we could. My gf loves going after work like between 500-600 time frame and it drives me insane!

[MG1]

Go before closing and get sushi and bento at half price. It's not on all the time, but I think we should convince jtrinh to post a message on RS whenever it looks like they will go on sale.

Now there's a good reason to have a RS mini meet. Half price sushi meet. The rice is pretty hard by that time, though. And, you have to fight off the old Chinese women for hte good stuff, LOLOLOLOL.

[Yuffa]

I like the home decor and cosemetic section at Target. It's a nice alternative to Home Sense and awesome makeup brands from the States....:3

[quasi]

Unless it's something on sale there pricing is probably close to safeway price on food items, not cheap at all. It's good if you're going after particular sale items but other then that the Target stores here have been a big disappointment for me.

[Gamed]

I just went to the Lansdowne location after work today. Definitely a lot of selection and much cleaner / organized than the older Zellers. As for the price, I do notice a bit cheaper depending on the items

[Gumby]

For toys, Target's prices are far better than ToysRUs prices.

[Volvo-brickster]

Target profits dragged down by Canadian expansion, wary shoppers - Business - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/target-profits-dragged-down-by-canadian-expansion-wary-shoppers-1.1316607)

the only good deal i ever found at target was $0.94 halloween candy lol

[Tapioca]

They have half-off Christmas decorations this week. I picked up a 7 ft tree from Target for $25. Pretty decent deal for a tree before Christmas.
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[Mr.Stubbz]

lowly target employee here, i gotta say the "best" stuff we have at the lansdowne is probably cosmetics, bedding/pillows, toys and like home deco shit. i doubt the canadian targets' are gonna be as good as the ones down south cus of diff regulations and crap (no spicy cheetos :okay: ) and from what ive peeked around through, i dont think its gonna do too bad lol. but if the walmart does get build near by theres gonna be some crazy ass blood vs crip of retail stores shit going on

[dbaz]

^ same lol. stores are pretty empty due to trucking problems still, prob be a bit more selection later on. it wont be the same as an american target, but in my opinion much better than zellers/sears. i can probably do all my christmas shopping at target alone, as they have a lot of stuff you wouldnt find at other places, ie. marvel comics glasses, some gift sets etc. ironically the toy section is nostalgia. power rangers, tmnt, gi joe, transformers are all back, and popular. http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs7/3721968_o.gif